Hey, it's the Kashtira player you played against. I didnt know much about Voiceless Voice and i really hoped you wouldn't do anything under shifter, you proved me wrong! Congrats man!
appreciate it my man, like i said in the video it takes the right hand to beat shifter. i just happened to have the pre-prep plus nib to go off but you played a great match
Congrats! I would say this is the best list and explination Ive seen. Too many people hiding behind cards like nadir and protending the deck is more than it is.
Only play against 17 and 16 year old grandkids who dragged me into the game. Really enjoyed your thorough explaining. See many deck profiles and most say everyone else is playing the deck wrong but don't really explain the way their profile is "right". Congrats on your finish yesterday. Good luck in the future and I look foreword to your future videos.
Hey there, I'm learning the deck and been watching the different deck profiles/discussions. I really enjoyed you breaking down the match uos and how to play around super poly/shifter. Great job!!
This is a really good list. Appreciate the tips at the end of the vid. Have me some good insight 👍🏼 Personally, I do really like playing the branded engine. It raises the power level of the deck and baits out so many handtraps and interactions. And after that you’re completely free to play with your ritual engine.
thank you! i like the branded engine as well i just didn’t trust myself playing it at the regional on opening weekend when i had only been testing the handtrap heavy variant
Great video. I’m just getting back into yugioh again. I quit during the dragon ruler/magician spellbook(right when pendulums were about to come out and I was like “nope; I’m out) and am trying to pick it back up and this is one of the best videos I’ve seen, especially hearing your mindset and explanation of the deck and the format. I pulled the entire voiceless engine in my phantom nightmare case pulls, and this video makes me want to go ahead and commit to learning and playing the deck; thanks.
so if you end on Lo, Skull Guardian, Barrier if they super poly you there on resolution you banish prayer from grave to summon another skull guardian from deck. this triggers Lo in grave so you summon Lo and use Lo’s effect on summon to place the radiance. since Lo is a trigger effect it activates as cl1
Another very cool thing the deck can do after shifter is: Opening barrier+ritual spell/monster/pre prep. You activate barrier, get li, ns lo, lo gets the trap, trap eff you shuffle back spell/monster from hand to special old man sauravis. And next turn you can get your omni plus the trap.🤗
I like the list over all. I play diff cards and our side decks look way different. I don't agree with the dyna mondo. It's risk reward for sure, but when the reward is a trap that sets up more interaction, it's almost impossible to not wanna set that up. if they didn't stop the combo depending on the deck you're favored to not get hit by anything. you're most likely more favored to lose the game without ez access to trap since fire decks are insane. but it isn't 100% you do it. probably very low if you already have trap. congrats on the top.
thank you my friend and my reasoning is just based on my personal playstyle honestly i have always been a super conservative player and never like to overextend for any reason. but i do understand wanting to get to trap as fast as possible but honestly i was opening the two card combos almost always so i had the trap turn zero by searching it off barrier most of the time
Great deck list and explanations! Earned a sub :) Have seen another profile maining Protecting Spirit Loagaeth (in place of Ash), which I don't think is too common. Any thoughts on this random card? 😆
Thank you! and man what a throwback card i haven’t played that since i was playing agents a few years ago but i will try it out thanks for the suggestion!
@@KingsCards21 No problem! Really enjoyed the content and look forward to seeing more, for sure! I think the reasoning behind that card was the banish effect after you using a fairy effect (e.g. Diviner), so you get a SS body on field, a banish and can't be summoned back with opponent's Hiita in the fire match up.
@@porcusd3231so i really just didn’t use the negate until i was able to get them down as far as possible on card advantage. i would use handtraps, radiance, sauravis to hold them off. last thing you wanna do is shotgun the negate on snake eye ash and get cooked by talent
You got a subscription from me! Great explanation of the deck, personally I enjoy the branded variant the most, with 3 branded fusion 1 Albaz and 2 Crow as engine pieces. 2 Albion 1 rinnbrumm 1 lubellion 2 mirror jade. Also 3 skull guardian and only 1 saravius I really like branded fusion sending trias if you have diviner or saffira if you open Skull guardian. And then going second against fire king send crow making rinnbrumm. I think people who think this deck is “mid” aren’t playing it correctly I also run I:P and like to summon saffira off the trap link saffira and I:P off into S:P (sometimes appolusa ) One of the biggest issues I see with people using this deck is sitting on skull guardian and lo to much and also using the trap to much for the pop instead of keeping it as an extender. I was wondering if you side out the trap going second? I’ve found myself not siding it out anymore, it sucks to draw but it’s sooo powerful. Anyways sorry for the rant lol I’m really passionate about this deck and love to hear other peoples input and opinions on it.
you’re all good and i almost played the branded variant but i lost in testing to the guy who won the regional the night before and it was because the branded fusion just wasn’t enough to break his board, but i never sided the trap out it is just way too powerful
@KingsCards21 for sure! I think the biggest fake "good" ht against the deck are bystials. So many people think a single bystial alone is devastating when in reality pretty much every 2 card combo plays through it and even diviner ns can if you're smart about it.
100% i agree. i was bystialed by the branded play in my last round and it did absolutely nothing to slow me down. i also believe that droll is really weak if you see more than 1 piece of your engine
On another note, which decks would you say is the hardest matchups for VV? I personally think Branded Despia and Floo are particularly difficult. The rest of the meta/rogue shifter decks are surprisingly favourable matchups. @@KingsCards21
@@minnayuan2591in my honest opinion i think you can slide pretty well against branded if you’re playing the right handtraps. ash and belle do a lot of damage to that deck. floo is one i dont have a lot of testing against but in the bit i have played against it, it doesn’t seem to be too awful of a match i have played other decks with a much worse time. i think the decks worst matchup is the fire decks in the hands of a really skilled player. that should be the only time you lose
Very good profile and explanation. Congrats for your placement, I jus want to ask you a couple of questions: do you feel like chaos angel is not that good? Cause I see a lot of lists playing it. And second, my extra is similar but I play almiraj and hiita instead of linkuriboh and dharc, and I play accesscode instead of goddess. Do you think accesscode is just not worth it?
thank you for the kind words and it’s not that i felt chaos angel wasn’t that good i just never found a way to make it in testing i mostly just wanted to link climb. and honestly the dharc is coming out because it never came up. i do like your idea with almiraj and hiita i will test it out. maybe that could make room for selene and accesscode thank you for the suggestion!
So you can use the ritual in GY effect against super poly? Someone at locals lava golemed me, would it apply there as well? I probably should’ve called a judge over but we assumed it wouldn’t work
you can use it on super poly because your titual would leave the field by card effect. you wouldn’t be able to use the ritual spell on lava golem because it is being sent to grave for a summon not an effect
Congratulations! I play that deck myself and love it! I like to look at decklists that top as inspiration. What do you think about the Pendulum Graph? And what do you think about switching 3 pots for Nadir's Servant? Do you have any suggestions for improvement? Thank you very much!
Pendulumgraph is nuts in lede. Since any 2 card combo allows you to end on standard board with pendulumgraph. But right now it's simple not consistent enough to get it out. Nadir is way too much of a liability against droll, shifter, and d barrier.
pre lede i’m not a big fan of pendulumgraph cause i don’t think it is great against the fire decks, but i like the nadir package i was just very afraid of droll and that package does play hard into that. but ill post a video next weekend of the branded nadir version of this deck. but for changes im gonna make now i just wanna swap the phantazmays for enemy controller! check back in next weekend for my locals report!
Thank you! I thought the same thing about Nadir. But if I get the Droll after a pot or after Nadir (+ draw 1 Garura), both hurts. I'm doing a lot of testing at the moment. Branded Fusion is also cool. But I actually think your variant works best with a lot of non-engine. Everything else is a lot of playing around.
@@23Cezdonmain thing with my list is that if i do get smoked by handtraps i have something to try and hold off until my turn came back around. the handtraps definitely came in handy ALOT
imma be honest i am not a huge fan of super poly anymore. droplet is purely just bettter against the mirror but i would feel a little unsafe in the labrynth matchup
Was passing on Skull + Lo enough though if you didn’t have access to Radiance via Dyna Mondo? How else were you stopping opponents big plays? Or did it depend on your hand, like if you had other hand traps?
if you have skull plus lo and barrier it is incredibly hard for some decks to out just that, not being able to target either and only being able to attack skull is an issue for a lot of decks but with 12 handtraps i felt very safe but it wasn’t often that was all i ended with. barrier can search radiance if you open a lot of engine
so when i’m going first against the fire decks i take out 3 nib and 3 ash for 3 summon limit and 3 cosmic cylone. when going second i will side out 3 ash, 3 imperm and 3 droll for 3 cosmic 3 belle and 3 phantazmay. the handtraps are the only cards i really side out
@@KingsCards21bro what , why do you side out the handtraps against fire Kings, like isn't there board just impossible to break with just engine , like I think atheist you should keep droll to stop them from going too crazy
cosmic is a crazy good board breaker against the fire decks. droll seems really good in theory if they lead off with bonfire but if they open with any of the other 1 card starters you don’t get crazy good value. i also just hold the belle for my turn to stop the garunix or kirin and preventing two more interruptions. phantazmay also stops the princess in grave
@KingsCards21 I see thanks for explaining and also , congrats bro this was one of the best deckprofiles , you shared a lot of useful information that was really helpful 😊
I would recommend 3 branded fusion, 3 nadir servant, and 3 talent. keep the nibs and replace the other handtraps for those 9 spells. you play albaz and maximus as the 41st and 42nd cards increasing deck count to equate for the bricks
sorry i’m a little late getting back to you but my side pattern for the regionals was a little strange. when i was playing fire i always took out the ash blossom and i always sided prosperity out no matter the situation. i dont really like triple tac that much in the main since it only shines when going first. when going second you have to let the fire decks use their interruptions before you can use it effectively then you’re already so far behind
not a huge fan of it honestly. i just think having handtraps is better because if the fire player knows you’re playing voiceless they can just build the board to beat super poly since most voiceless players are playing it. super poly gets worse when people know you’re on it
In the video you demonstrate how much you respect super poly by disencouraging the usage of the dyna combo, do you still think the same about sage? Cus if you end on it you still lose to super poly hard if they just fuse sage and lo
i would still end on sage just because you can use radiance to summon another lo from deck. I never really liked to summon sage if i didn’t have both ritual spells in grave so i could keep at least 1 as a shuffle for radiance
So I won the a cup here 5-0 in the U.K. with a very similar build. Only diff I had was were you had droll and ash I used fenrir and super poly and those 2 in side. What are thoughts on that?
i don’t really like fenrir as a card this format. it just gives them a free activation of promethian and it doesn’t do very well into the mirror match. as for super poly i think that droplet is just purely the better card for the format. droplet doesn’t depend on the fire deck ending on two fires and droplet is absolutely crazy into the voiceless mirror where super poly does nothing when they play the line right. but i would be open to testing your suggestions!
@@KingsCards21 I agree aboht fenrir, I honestly used it if I go second or if I go first it was like a ritual fodder for me too or free discard for super p. I am going to test a more HT build now and see how I do . It’s the one similar to yours. I have also considered the branded fusion build but feel it’s hella bad if you draw the one of albaz
@@hapC92i like branded fusion it just slows you down from link summoning which is surprisingly powerful in this deck the removal from dyna mondo and SP and anima is needed
@@lawrenceakande1919i didn’t play it at the regional just because i thought alot of people would be on droll and they definitely were so it was a good call to just play my own handtraps
this was on the release weekend so my list has changed a good bit. i posted my most recent list that got 1st at the ots championship if you wanna check that one out
super poly is kinda hit or miss this format, going second against the fire decks you’re not gonna catch a good player ending on a board that you can super poly away and get a free win. my buddy who won the regional never played into with his fire list. then as i explained in the video if the voiceless deck plays it right they are never losing anything off of a super poly
@@MrBiosh0cksuper poly is good into a lot of rogue matchups right now like labby, dragons, branded, and many more. garura is a house of a card against the rogue spread
honestly i’m gonna take the super polys out, you’re never gonna catch a good fire player playing into it and as more people figure out the voiceless deck they will learn to play around it as well
