In this video I address the following topics. New athlete interview series and why I am doing it. Joe Rogan discussion on PEDs in CrossFit CrossFit documentary
@@strongbodystrongmiindSo, to extend your well-reasoned argument, the fact that Hiller is prone to error means Dave should adopt a similar framework. Solid plan.
@@theunknown2352 Incorrect. I evened the playing field. But one thing I don’t do is go back & forth on the internet with strangers. I will let you have this one bud 💪💪
I enjoy listening to both you and Hiller, but it’s really frustrating to hear you constantly comment on what he is putting out based on what someone told you he has said. Please just watch the content if you are going to comment on it. Or just don’t address it if you don’t have time to watch it. I think the tone of what he puts out is super helpful for context and “heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend” doesn’t really give weight to your counterpoint.
Well truth is, that's how busy people especially in management roles handle their workload. They can't watch everything themselves, they are dependant on people telling them short versions of those things and then they handle it. I do exactly the same thing as a boss of an IT department. It is called delegating. There is no way you can listen to or watch everything at a certain point.
If people put public statements or go on podcasts to speak then you set yourself up to receive feedback. Both positive and negative. If people don’t want feedback then they shouldn’t speak.
Unlike Dave, I actually watched Hiller's video, as well as other podcast performances by Annette. Not only is her way of "thinking" categorically incompatible with even the most basic sense of personal responsibility, it represents a form of organizational cancer. CrossFit would be well-advised to excise the malignancy before metastasis...if it's not too late already. Incidentally, Dave, next time you want to run to the defense of a coworker, I would strongly encourage you to first investigate exactly what you're defending. Blind allegiance is more pernicious than the perception of disloyalty.
I enjoy your show, but I'm surprised you challenged Hiller to respond to you with a highlight video of positivity, then never watched it when he made it.
"I heard Andrew said..." "I'm disappointed in Hiller if he did that..." "people have been telling me..." If it's not important enough for you to spend a few minutes to watch a video to find out if any information your being told is true, why is it important enough to you to comment on?
To be fair Dave has the games coming up soon to focus on. And let’s not forget his olive oil business, his leather making and the shooting competition he has at the ranch. He’s a very busy guy.
No Sean Woodland this year??? 😲🥺😭 I am shocked! Sean IS the announcer of the Crossfit Games! We love Sean! Chase Ingram doesn't even come close. WHY??? 💔
Dave please watch the Hiller video about Annette. The comments about quotas are her words, not Hiller's. He re-played an interview of Annette where she discussed quotas.
Dave, why is there so much animosity for Hiller? Right now, him and Sevan are the only line of communication for what’s going on at HQ. How can you get upset about him relaying incorrect information when the only line of communication from HQ is word of mouth or a DM to either of them. Our feed used to be filled with videos of Greg fighting the government & big soda, stories of members (of all ages) in the affiliates, highlighting games athletes, showing what the community is doing, and so much more. There was never any doubt of what the direction of the company was going. People used to be proud of the brand and what it stood for. Now it’s becoming a corporate franchise filled with people that probably couldn’t tell you what ‘Fitness in 100 Words’ is. Why does it take you, going on your personal vlog to relay the message of what’s going on at HQ? Or rather just coming on to say ‘I heard what Hiller said and he’s wrong’. Give the people what they want.
@jeffgiardina9035 they're doing their jobs. Andrew throws them into the public eye, which then leads to then receiving a lot of hate. That's not supposed to be part of their job (for the majority of them). They're literally people just rocking up to work, trying to do their job the best they can but then they're all of a sudden being smashed online 24/7 by people who know only snippets of what goes on. It's bullying, caused by Andrew's actions. We need to remember CF is just something we like as fans, and/or do as a hobby, but there are actual real people copping all the shit because Andrew name drops them if he even hears a whisper of something. The criticism should be directed at CF, not the individuals that work there.
I wasn't a fan of the idea of the interviews, but I had to watch the Motitz Fiebig one because he is the only German guy there. So I watched it and fell into a very deep rabit hole and now I started to watch them all, it is great to hear all the athleats! So well done for this format!
Dave,I love you so much and thank you for everything you do for- CrossFit , please. So, you guys could clear all of the crazy Talk with hiller and all Can you just bring Hiller to your channel and interview him like you are starting doing with the athletes? Just have a good 1 hour Q&A live so we could watch it And let's calm all this craziness before the games!!!??? .Just a thought from a big fan of yours and Hiller❤️😁
Great Video Dave, my wife got a surprise random test by crossfit this past Saturday. It’s good to see that Crossfit Actively does Random tests outside of the competition floor. This helps legitimize the sport! Keep up the good work. 👏
Dave! Remember your idea of the “camps” going head to head (HWPO, PRVN, Mayhem, etc.)?? Something in the off-season to give athletes an opportunity to showcase while also being fun to watch. Any update? Would love to see it!
Dave. The Athlete Interviews are the BOMB!! I am sure you will be disappointed to hear this, but you are a very naturally talented interviewer!! These segments are pure GOLD. I listen to ALL of the podcasts, and am learning something new through each of your interviews. It seems like you are as well, and the athletes are enjoying the interaction! WIN WIN WIN! Thank you for all that you do, and best of luck getting through all 80!
how can you be up in arms about hiller? he said Nothing! (in will ferrels voice in zoolander) YOUR teammate, Annette, said it. You admit you never watched it, so you're commenting on something as an uneducated person. come on now. You're better than that. Have you forgotten your own roots? You were a SEAL, don't you remember reconnaissance? i'd encourage you to do your own research, listen for yourself, without emotion! What Annette said (repeatedly!) on cameras, on the internet, is the problem. If you can't recognize that, then you are part of the problem too. You're better than this Dave. Get off the crazy train if you can't stop it. otherwise grow a spine, stop being loyal to a fault to your team, and call a spade a spade, even when it's your mistake.
You expect Dave to watch Hillers video's "to get the facts"? That's the silliest thing I've heard today. One of the points Dave was making is that Hiller doesn't have the inside info (facts) that he thinks he has. Why would someone who actually is part of HQ listen to an opinionated vlogger to get the facts? If Dave is wrong about the funding of the video, and Hiller is right, let's see the receipts. Dave doesn't have to watch a Hiller video to know if that claim is BS or not.
@@MrJustinBurchno just pointing out that he is being critical of hiller for not knowing the full facts before he speaks then talks about Hiller without having the full facts. I’m a fan of 90% of hillers content, I do think he does cross over into bullying a little when he keeps jumping on same person. I found Brian friend thing ok at the beginning now I find it a bit distasteful. Say your point then let it go
At the end of last year, Don in an interview stated that PE's timeline is 3-5 years. We are 4 years into PE owning HQ. As you said in response to my last comment, at some point PE will look to sell it. PE is slashing costs and raising fees at the expense of affiliates. You failed to answer my question "How is PE selling to new PE investors who will also look to extract profits good for affiliates?" P.S. Our actions and the outcome define our legacy. Legacy is not something that can simply be edited after the fact.
Dave, the leadership that you demonstrate with CrossFit, is it similar to the leadership that you learned with the Seals? Specifically, do you defend your seal brothers even when they’re blatantly wrong and promote the victim mindset? It seems to contradict the personal accountability that other seals speak on…
Dave, why on earth are you having "epic discussions" and being challenged by the human resources officer? Is she staunchly opposed to kipping? Does she advocate high carbohydrate intake? What?
I think everyone would really love to hear (Sean especially) why there is such lack of transparency when it comes to massive decisions like not renewing Sean Woodland’s contract. It’s not as if he’s just been the voice for a year or two. I just don’t get that. CF wants people to trust them but they pull really dumb stunts with zero remarks on why.
It's important to form your own opinion by directly engaging with the content. Relying solely on others' perspectives can lead to misunderstandings and biased views. Watching the video yourself will give you a better basis for any comments or critiques you might have. Is there any reason why you refuse to watch the videos?
With a lot of athletes switching to training groups (mayhem, prvn, hwpo). Is it getting difficult choosing athletes to test games workouts ? I would imagine training groups would see one of their athletes gone for awhile.
“I’m disappointed in Hiller” - I don’t watch his videos, but shame on him. I have no idea what he actually says, but shame… god bless Dave, you’ve gone completely corporate
What up Dave. Great content this week. Thank you for the time spent. Random question: in your logo, I get the gun barrel and the barbell; how about the pistons? Don’t think I have heard anything about your car/truck enthusiasm.
Hey Dave has anyone at HQ considered the more intricate parts of balanced programming at the games? For example, semi's was widely viewed (by athletes and analysts) as a better event for bigger athletes. Is that a good test for the process of qualification? Heights are a normal distribution, don't you think the event favoritism should represent the same normal distribution?
Had Dave, I have a question about an approach to test the impact of heat on performance. I live in Houston, Texas where it is crazy hot and humid. We always talk about how we have to adjust to the heat and humidity and how it impacts how well we perform in our WODs. To test this, I'm thinking of picking 3 benchmark workouts and repeating them every quarter throughout the year to see how my results vary. What do you think of the approach and which benchmarks would you suggest?
Hey Dave! I'm going to the games for the first time this year. Having never been, how accessible are you and maybe the athletes for photographs and signatures? It would be really cool to get a picture with you. Also, love the olive oil.
09 to about 13 it felt like the athletes were one of us. They would be out with there families, eating and relaxing. I have pics with CLB, RF,AT,DB, JE and yes DC. Not so much since they stay protected and hidden ( not necessarily by choice ) and I got Spealler he was the unicorn who didn’t like pics 😀
Hey Dave! Do you think we’ll eventually see CrossFit as an intercollegiate sport, similar to weightlifting, swimming, etc? Curious to know your thoughts here, and if it’s something currently being worked on.
Thoughts on athletes using carbon plates in shoes? They have them for running shoes in most brands but now TYR athletes are testing new trainers coming out later this year with them in them. Unfair advantage in thing like short runs, box jumps etc? Thanks!
Hey Dave! I see a lot of former team/group guys doing BJJ. What are your thoughts on that? Seems like everyone is doing some type of combat sport. I know Khalipa is big into it
Another good one mate! This idea that some people have about CFHQ being out to do wrong by the community blows my mind. I dont understand it. Negativity breeds negativity and i worry that CF is slowly being destroyed by these people.
Hi Dave, Last week you touched on a good trainer will address diet first. However, the block system as taught in the lvl 1 course emphasizes portion control at the constant level and even when eating out. Do you believe that this is revivable in the new light of eating disorders being prevalent throughout peoples fitness journeys and even at the highest level in the sport. Of course the short answer is, eat better and you will be better, but that isn’t an approachable conversation to anyone especially new people. If started my initial conversation with someone who wanted to try my gym out with “hey let’s look at your diet.” It’s roughly on the same terms of how much do you weight? I absolutely understand that nutrition is the foundation. Unfortunately it’s more often than not the straw that broke the camels back on how people can really injury themselves mentally and physically. Is CrossFit going to potentially make an adjustment to the way it’s taught and perceived or just continue and not have anyone worry about the potential impact it’s causing trainers and clients. Thanks for all the good content. Apologies for the long post.
Have yall thought of a Legends division? Athletes with X number of games appearances to compete together. They can be more fun/race workout. Its a chance for the OG’s to still compete for the fans.
The rest of the world uses the phrase "random test" in the context of drug testing to refer to a test that is administered to an athlete that is truly randomly selected from a pool of athletes. It can be too expensive to test an entire field of athletes in many sports. So, a common practice is to test the winner or the full podium and then randomly select a certain percentage of athletes from the rest of the field for testing. The idea is to deter the athletes who know they won't make it to the podium with the possibility of a test. "Unannounced testing" is testing where the testers just show up and demand a test. No one calls this "random testing", except you. Targeted testing happens when the sport or doping agency goes after those they suspect are doping or just those who are highly successful or prominent in the sport. Rich was targeted with an unannounced test, as he should have been. He wasn't randomly tested. It sounds like he was mocking your idiosyncratic use of "random testing".
Enjoying the Athletes Interviews, THX! You have asked many of them about L1. Well, can not be more agree with you, that it would be nice, if all games athletes have a L1. But you know better , that they don't Make a lot of money and a Tripp to Semi's and Games cost a lot. Maybe CF HQ can give each Games athlete a L1 Voucher. This will create a lot of great coaches and ambassadors!
Dave, have you or CrossFit HQs asked why Andrew Hiller has so many followers? Yes clickbait, but that only keeps a persons attention for so long. I wonder if it’s because they have similar thoughts, feelings, or concerns. I love CrossFit and the CrossFit games. I want it all to be around when my grandkids are old. I hope to get in a CL1 class in the next year or so. It’d be really cool if you just happen to attend.
If the information that Hiller is putting out is incorrect than I think it is on CrossFit to put out correct information spoken loudly enough that it effectively cancels out Hiller. The best defense is a strong offense. I really appreciate your videos and it provides some clarity on CrossFit HQ that is lacking within the rest of the in house CrossFit media offerings.
Thanks for the weekly updates. It's great to hear from someone so connected to CrossFit on such a deep and thorough level. That said, should CrossFit at some point quit doing the Games for the overall well being of the company and the true mission which is to "cure the world's most vexing problem" (chronic disease), and just focus all it's attention on promotion of and education of the methodology? CrossFit could still run the Open as a global community event, but leave the big comps to Rogue, Wodapolooza, etc.
Have to agree with Luke about the grunt work events. One of my favorite events. 2010 Sandbag Move. And The Capitol was GREAT as a spectator. Really want to see more events that mix in movements that apply to normal life. Most people wouldn’t know what a muscle up or double unders are out of context. But they know carrying a 100lb sand bag for a mile or two would suck
People reading this, please go through and upvote any comment about Sean Woodland (and Niki Brazier) not returning as commentators this year. We need answers in next weeks review!
Unfortunately Hiller has put himself in an echo chamber where the people he associates with and his most vocal followers are feeding the beast and just take everything said in his videos as gospel. That's all I'm willing to say lest I become a subject of a video. Funnily enough, I started watching your videos because Hiller included them in some of his earlier vids. I really enjoy the week in reviews and have come to respect you and the way you deal with the comments, both critical and positive. And to all the folks who are mad that Dave doesn't watch Hiller's videos... it's almost like Dave has other things going on and doesn't want to take the time of day. The world doesn't revolve around RU-vid or Hiller. :)
@@hillerfitWhat is classic behavior of a bully? Immediately backing down and trying play it off as a joke when confronted. The fact you’re sponsored by a steroid company and have the audacity to act like you’re concerned with steroid usage is disgusting. You are destroying this sport just by existing near it.
If Dave (or anyone replying to anything on the internet) doesn't have the time to spend to "look into it" for what's actually happening, then thre is no basis to comment or respond to it either. Dave himself says it (Reader's Digest form) "Hiller doesn't have all the facts, (he assumes), so if you hear what he says, find out what's going on for real behind it...." what Dave is asking the followers to do in this video, is EXACTLY what he hasn't done. He's actually doing what he accuses Hiller of, replying with no actual information (just going on hearsay in this case). Sadly that's the state of the internet primarily today, react, to reactions, without actually checking the source. INSTEAD, if Dave doesn't have time to watch what Hiller posts... then he should not react to what others are saying ABOUT those posts, it's a game of telephone. I watch both, Hiller's video about the CPO, wasn't very critical, in fact, he didn't really say much at all, he mostly just let it play, with a few comments (including congratulating her on her motivation to leave an environment that she felt was toxic at her previous employer that she discusses in the video). So Dave is reacting to someone else's interpretation of something THEY may not have even watched... the CORRECT response for a professional is "I haven't watched it, so I can't comment on it, next item..." THAT type of response, is a power position, the "not watching it but here are my thoughts" isn't powerful (it's understandable he hasn't watched them if he doesn't want to, only so many hours in the day) but commenting blindly on something he HASN'T watched, is a response from a position of weakness.
I agree with Dave to some extent about Andrew Hiller. I love that he brought a spotlight on lax movement standards and I DO think he contributed positively to making those standards better. I also agree he tends to focus on the negative on a host of other topics that do not make the CF space better.
All I'd say is if CF HQ handles their media/outreach with the same level of thoroughness you vet the information on "bad actors" in the space we are in trouble. At this point, you should actually watch Hiller's stuff so you can speak intelligently on it and not just comment on the hearsay you get from people. If you aren't willing to do the work in research, Hiller or anyone else, then you should keep your opinion's to yourself. Banning critics doesn't make the product perfect, banning critics makes CF something no one wants.
Fully surveillanced, which the security cameras are directly in front of him + he has a dog monitoring him & his property. Dave is a former army guy & he seems pretty intelligent. I’m sure he thought this out
Guess what, we don't know the athletes either anymore and that is why the games are not as interesting. Every since the shuffle where the media team was let go, so was the hype leading up to the games. You should bring back on the buttery bros and let them drive that hype. People watched because they knew everyone, all the dottiers, Frazer, Wells, Briggs... Now? This would be an easy fix. Yeah it will cost money, but all business have to spend money on advertisement to be successful and so does CrossFit. We also need better standards for movements and judging. If there is a great area there is going to be confusion and errors. We also need a master judge system that can over turn bad calls like most major sports. Bad calls happen but it should not end seasons. This comes from love, because I love this sport. I want to see more CrossFit gyms and athletes, the current model is not working.
What’s stopping the Buttery Bros from doing what you want with the athletes. It would be costly to do it but if there’s such demand for it, it should be financially viable.
"random testing" " they didnt know when they'll be tested". such lies, Fraser liiterally has spoken about how they called him to let him know they'll be testing him in 24 hours....
It's not that hard of a concept to understand. The only people that like Karen's...are other Karen's. The rest of society has seen enough Karen's to know what they're like, and know how toxic they are, without having to listen to every word they say.
It is easy for social media guru's who are sitting on the outside of CrossFit "the company" to say whatever they like as self proclaimed experts. Unfortunately CrossFit as a sport is still in its infancy and that means the social media guru's have more power with and influence over the CF masses than they really should. Sadly,the reality of modern social media is that,while you (Dave) and the other folks at CrossFit HQ are actually at the coal face creating the next evolution of the sport (specifically The CF Games) in real time,those who are sitting on the sidelines with no actual input toward that development can say whatever they like,truth be damned.We all know that for professional social media types, controversy attracts views and views means money so it is in their interest to stir the pot and who cares about the damage they cause along the way. Keep up the good work Dave.
Thank you for addressing the comments made about Annette by Hiller. I watched his video and felt like he took her words out of context. He also tried negate her experience as a Black woman who has experienced racism. He tried to equate the racism she said she experienced to his friend who is fat. As a white man, he can’t speak people of color’s lived experience. I don’t think I he meant this, but his assessment of her came off as a bit racist. There’s a bit too much of diminishing of people’s lived experiences from a very small, but loud contingent (I’m looking at Sevan too) in the CF space that can make it feel uncomfortable for marginalized folks in the space.
@@hillerfit your life experience isn’t the same as a woman of color. As a white man, you don’t face the same marginalization as people of color. You do recognize that, don’t you? And point that out doesn’t diminish your experience, it clarifies the fact that some people walk through this world and are marginalized because of things that are out of their control. Your overweight friend could lose weight and no longer face weight discrimination. Black people can’t change the fact that they’re Black and that this country is set up to marginalize them by default. Again, I want to say that I don’t think you meant your comments in the video to sound like you were trying to sound negative. I do actually enjoy your videos. But that particular one did make me feel uncomfortable, especially the comments that were posted on the post under it.
Haters are going to hate. You don’t need to explain anything. You test. That’s all you can do. No matter what you say, others will talk shit. Let’s talk about something else.
If Crossfit needs more money, why don't they just charge money to watch it?? I know everybody feels entitled to the free stream but I would be ok paying to watch it and I'm sure others would too
I don’t think you are protecting athletes. But I think it’s very easy to beat the tests. It is very clear that most athletes have used something at some point.
Thank you for your Reviews. I would say: Hiller, sevan, Irish Guy and co,., are playing a Bad game with you and all CF HQ (for folower and Money) and you all playing this Game with them. You are smarter then this and you know the Most CF interested folks, are not interested in that group.
I’m usually on board with Dave.. but Dave’s lying through his teeth about PEDS.. yea I 100% believe that the only people to pop have been lower level people and when big names randomly drop out it’s definitely due to injury or burn out lmal
