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6 Easy Ways to Spot a Fake Chinese Les Paul - Chibson Repellant! 

Nick in the States
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6 simple tells so you don't get fooled into buying a counterfeit Gibson Les Paul (Fibson). Consider this a public service message! Included at the end is a group of 6 Les Pauls for you to guess if they're fake or not!
Here's the PDF of the screens for comparisons sake. Hopefully this helps someone not get screwed over!
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@robertscottpurse1
@robertscottpurse1 7 лет назад
They're watching this video right now, to figure out where they have to make changes to fool us next time 😳
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Of course there is!
@kevinpaul1719
@kevinpaul1719 7 лет назад
Very good Nick in the States. Some of those I never heard of.
@jasonlaiola3874
@jasonlaiola3874 5 лет назад
@@NickintheStates I can't afford a Gibson so what guitar do you suggest
@kickpublishing
@kickpublishing 5 лет назад
Video should be called "Guitarists teach Chibson sweatshops to make us better fakes"
@boboutelama5748
@boboutelama5748 5 лет назад
It's not exactly true. They know perfectly how to make good fakes, as we had very splendid well made fakes coming it at the border. But it's simply too much of a bother. The point of the fakes is to trow on the market a very cheap guitar and to cash in on this instrument. So they will tend to sell you their 39$ to 90$ usual crappy instrument, made by inexperienced workers grabbed from the street. They can't do better, even if they wanted to.
@strokex1
@strokex1 8 лет назад
one of the best videos showing the differences between a fake and the real thing.
@kitchan787
@kitchan787 7 лет назад
jack g u
@dannyh7557
@dannyh7557 6 лет назад
What difference does it make at this point.
@owenduffy5948
@owenduffy5948 9 лет назад
I don't know if anyone else was enjoying the "Real or Fake" quiz as much as i was but i found myself smiling stupidly to myself as i recognized the points you mentioned.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Owen Duffy Hehe, well done! Glad you enjoyed it man.
@mikehawk9861
@mikehawk9861 7 лет назад
If it stays in tune, its fake
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
LOL YES! HAHAHA
@barrysoetoro1543
@barrysoetoro1543 5 лет назад
If the frets have sharp edges... its real! LOL
@matsp888
@matsp888 4 года назад
If the headstock breaks, it's real ;)
@pimtool9351
@pimtool9351 4 года назад
All of the above true. I'm buying a chibsons because they are better. Flat out.
@syrsknight
@syrsknight 2 года назад
Lol i have two real les paul guitars and none of your comments are true lol .. but hey not saying it couldn't happen...lmao
@commissioner1969
@commissioner1969 4 года назад
I played a really nice fake one today for an hour. Fucker stayed in tune and had a nice feel to it. It was actually lighter and had good resonance and sustain. It was fun to play.
@dannytetreault
@dannytetreault 6 лет назад
This is by far THE BEST AND THE GREATEST video comparing 6 basic ways to spot a fake Chinese Les Paul (aka the "Chibson") versus the real Epiphone or Gibson Les Paul! I loved the ending where you test the audiences comprehension by asking us if the guitar presented before us was a real or fake Les Paul. I got em all right but was confused by the last one. Thanks.
@ecsrvjh
@ecsrvjh 8 лет назад
I got chibson custom for $300 at a flea market and absolutely love it! I had it completely gutted and replaced everything with Gibson parts I had Seymor Duncan Alnoco II Pros Slash Signature pickups installed it's a real beauty. I replaced the black knobs with the gold Gibsons. The neck and frets are great and no problems whatsoever with the performance. I guess I was lucky whoever put it together took a lot of care into it.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+ecsrvjh Awesome man, sounds like you have a killer axe there now! Well done! I love those Slash pickups. I'm thinking of putting them into a very AFD looking guitar that I have. Why go half fanboy when I can go full on, right? Off to price a used set now. Thanks for popping by man!
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 7 лет назад
Love the "Real or Fake"... wish we could do this all day.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Awesome man, glad you enjoyed it. I have another one coming soon. I have a rather substantial amount of Les Pauls or LP copies at the house right now under a bunch of brands. Keep an eye out!
@tubefixxer
@tubefixxer 5 лет назад
Best video I’ve seen on YT for spotting fakes. thanks for going the extra mile for the PDF.
@luclego2442
@luclego2442 2 года назад
Thank you man. The quiz was a great idea. You rock
@johnfkiii
@johnfkiii 5 лет назад
Thanks! One of the best videos on RU-vid about spotting fakes.
@recycledcitizen
@recycledcitizen 7 лет назад
Great vid! Shopping for my first LP (I've been a Fender guy) and this was very helpful. You have some great axes.
@ryderjones794
@ryderjones794 Год назад
This is a fantastic video! Great and very detailed explanation! Fun game at the end too!
@randyfox8484
@randyfox8484 6 лет назад
Excellent guide, especially for those of us new to Les Pauls! Awesome!
@davidguthrie3739
@davidguthrie3739 5 лет назад
Great information that probably saved me from making a costly mistake. Thanks for posting!
@alabamalowlife
@alabamalowlife 7 лет назад
Just wanted to thank you for this video. It helped my son and I to identify a fake Gibson Les Paul Custom. You video is the ONLY place I've seen point out the incorrect location of the tail piece. Thank you so much!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Sweet man, I'm happy to have helped!
@vinlander8484
@vinlander8484 6 лет назад
Thanks for this video. Ive learned a few things that no one else taught me! Going to buy a used studio today!
@riloh58
@riloh58 8 лет назад
Hey Nick. Thanks for sharing. That was a very informative video. I'm looking at 2nd hand GIbsons at the moment and that was very helpful. Cheers.
@craiggerard
@craiggerard 6 лет назад
Thanks Nick! Very informative and helpful. Cheers, TC
@icemanseries7827
@icemanseries7827 8 лет назад
This is great learning tool and video, I will show my co workers this, got 5 out of 6'👏 Missed the last one!
@craigfish7890
@craigfish7890 8 лет назад
Thank you for posting this. Great information to get out there.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Craig Fish Any time man!
@sgnt9337
@sgnt9337 6 лет назад
The quiz is a great idea. Great video, thanks for posting.
@LuigiTuazon
@LuigiTuazon 7 лет назад
Thank you for this very beautiful demonstration! :)
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Any time Francis!
@gregs3173
@gregs3173 3 года назад
This was super helpful. I ran into a fake SG a few months back. One of the giveaways I noticed right away was that the inlays were cut really sloppily and the back plastic pickup cover was too thin and didn't seem to fit flush.
@claudehopper9813
@claudehopper9813 9 месяцев назад
I've been thinking about getting a Les Paul ..this certainly helps Thanks !
@nicholascremato
@nicholascremato 5 лет назад
Thanks nick, we needed this video.
@richiebeard994
@richiebeard994 7 лет назад
According to all of your points of reference my dear sir I have a real deal, Les Paul Standard. Thank you for the class brother. You are a natural teacher and the proof is that I passed your quiz with a 100%. A long healthy and happy life to you sir.
@TheYjmfan
@TheYjmfan 8 лет назад
Thanks a lot that was really informative I'm in the process of getting a chibson more for curiosity than anything else great video !
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
Good luck and let me know how it goes!
@charlieisamonster
@charlieisamonster 9 лет назад
Very informative . Thank you for posting this.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Thanks for swinging by man. I'm happy you found it helpful!
@WoodesosGuitarMods
@WoodesosGuitarMods 8 лет назад
This just came up in my suggestions. Good vid!
@tk4x431
@tk4x431 8 лет назад
Hi im a fan lol
@DesrochersBob
@DesrochersBob 8 лет назад
Nicely done Nick. A good lesson on what to look for.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Robert L Desrochers Thanks Robert!
@draganm7823
@draganm7823 5 лет назад
I know its an old video, I've seen recent ones but I learned quite a bit from this one and had to subscribe.
@Into_The_Mystery_13
@Into_The_Mystery_13 5 лет назад
Great run down! Thanks!
@nicholascremato
@nicholascremato 5 лет назад
The fake ones look so much nicer!!!! I am in love with the first guitar you showed!!!
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 года назад
Nice veneers are an order or magnitude cheaper than a nice full cap.
@Kwaizecker
@Kwaizecker 3 года назад
SO helpful, thank you!
@reneorfanidis789
@reneorfanidis789 8 лет назад
Thank you very much for this great video and explanation. I´ll be checking the next Gibsons with a different eye. ;-)
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Rene Orfanidis Gad you liked it Rene!
@tk4x431
@tk4x431 8 лет назад
Yay I got them all right! I will surely look out for those!
@ashjonpol3743
@ashjonpol3743 6 лет назад
Thank you for this great information
@bunakkaptan
@bunakkaptan 4 года назад
Great show but the last one fooled me .Thanks for the very useful info.
@IsaacArbec
@IsaacArbec 6 лет назад
thank you so much man; this is now my pawn shop video
@marcgerb
@marcgerb 9 лет назад
Thanks for this video. I bought a LP on ebay 10 years ago and never even suspected it could be fake until recently. With your help I'm fairly certain it's the real deal!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
marcgerb That's good news man! Now play the hell out of it :)
@Colhogan06
@Colhogan06 5 лет назад
In future setups like this, give us a shot of the back of the headstock when having us do the initial inspection. It doesn't do us any good if we cannot look for ourselves to see if the "wings" are there. Telling us in a way after the fact that there are no wings is good but we never got a chance to look for ourselves and make a decision based on all available information.
@mykuntstynx9463
@mykuntstynx9463 Год назад
Future guy here to tell you that after three years, someone finally showed up to let you know that we've been waiting for three years for your video....
@livewire6925
@livewire6925 5 лет назад
Thanks Nick. Good Info.
@terrenceholmes2450
@terrenceholmes2450 8 лет назад
Thank you!very informative and quite entertaining!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Terrence Holmes Thanks Terence, glad you enjoyed it!
@joeventura1
@joeventura1 8 лет назад
VERY EDUCATIONAL!!! Thanks!!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+joeventura1 Any time man, thanks for stopping by!
@taokichavez9319
@taokichavez9319 5 лет назад
Really Nice video man! Thanks
@joemeyer6876
@joemeyer6876 6 лет назад
Very Helpful ! Thanks
@aa64912
@aa64912 6 лет назад
Very good info, thank you
@EvgenF
@EvgenF 5 лет назад
Thank you! Very good video.
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 7 лет назад
Great video. After your excellent description of the differences , I was able to spot the fake les Paul's . This is invaluable info if you don't Have the real thing to compare with. 👍
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Thanks man! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@harrisonandrew
@harrisonandrew 3 года назад
Nice video - I found that so useful.
@beachgum1001
@beachgum1001 2 года назад
You are a Great Teacher 👍
@46ace
@46ace 6 лет назад
Outstanding, helpful video! Thanks( I need to know this)..
@MrYatesj1
@MrYatesj1 8 лет назад
Great info , thanks for the break down!!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
Glad you liked it Jess!
@jonnybeck6723
@jonnybeck6723 7 лет назад
Thanks man... I really appreciate this. cheers
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Glad it was useful!
@mikebottiaux5850
@mikebottiaux5850 5 лет назад
Very helpful, Thanks!
@wcountyrednecks
@wcountyrednecks 7 лет назад
Very good video, I firmly believe I can spot a fake after this class you've put on. Thanks buddy
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Thanks Johnny, happy to be of use!
@derweasel
@derweasel 11 месяцев назад
Great video -- thank you!
@frosteyghost2717
@frosteyghost2717 9 лет назад
thanks for the video, I'm looking into buying a Les Paul and this will really help
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
fiction is reality Happy to be of assistance! Good luck!
@pimtool9351
@pimtool9351 4 года назад
Do yourself a favor and buy a chibson.
@duckdevin9623
@duckdevin9623 9 лет назад
Thank you very much for making this video.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
路远戴 You're welcome!
@MrPlanefreak
@MrPlanefreak 3 года назад
This was excellent info,, Cool video thank you :-)
@ajlmirrormist
@ajlmirrormist Год назад
I knew nothing about Gibson or Chibson before watching this video... got them all right so now I'm an expert haha. thanks for the education
@scottrushton453
@scottrushton453 Год назад
2014 gibsons also have frets that sit "on top" of the binding; I have a genuine Gibson LP Classic finished this way. I bought it used, and initially balked on this usually blatant tell, until I did a bit of research. Great video! The more people know these things, the fewer will be ripped off!
@Terry3Gs
@Terry3Gs 9 лет назад
nice video nick .... btw funny that at the 11:42 mark the genuine 60's trib goldtop actualy has/shows a multi piece back !!! lol
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
It does! Those tributes (and the LPJ/SGJ models) have 1, 2 or 3 piece backs. Even the big "G" knows a thing or two about cost savings! Thanks for checking out the vid!
@cjjaxxon
@cjjaxxon 7 лет назад
Good video. ALSO I've noticed when I bought my "Chibson" Les Paul Standard and somebody pointed this out that the angle of the headstock is slightly tilted back further than an American Gibson Les Paul. I bought a Chibson SG as well and noticed that the headstock looks a little longer at the top as well.
@bilhanbel7591
@bilhanbel7591 7 лет назад
Dude, when you first were saying bout exam it made me like whatta heck ? but it's pretty effective.. did great job i think ! gratz
@rodbelding9523
@rodbelding9523 9 месяцев назад
I almost aced the quiz, but the last one got me. I didn't even take a guess on the last one, I honestly just had no clue. It simultaneously looked real and fake.
@rareform6747
@rareform6747 8 лет назад
Great Job , very original ...
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
Thanks man! Happy New Year!
@Squazzoo68
@Squazzoo68 9 лет назад
Great job Nick! I can tell by just looking at a pic if they're fake or not. 2 years ago before I got into this I couldn't. The body shape on Stan Lee is the closest I've ever seen. All of mine have the lazy cutaway and longer top arch. Also, the stamped lettering on the back is different & usually filled with white out. I catch guys selling these on EBay every month. Us Chibson enthusiasts need to stand up & make people realize we are against passing these off as real, & are against people being duped. Gotta watch for fake Rics & Gretsches too! Awesome buddy!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Thanks man. I can tell now as well super quick. It's been hard earned knowledge! Stan Lee does have just a great shape that I didn't appreciate at first how rare it was that way. Hopefully more will show up that accurate after the holiday rush is over. There are quite a few more tells, from the pickup cavities, wiring color and type, the writing like you said, the inlays on the neck routes, etc. But it takes some knowledge to catch these. A lot of people who get stuck with a fake is because they had a quick opportunity to buy a real LP for 800 or 900 bucks. Poor bastards. Hopefully this one help! I agree on Gretsch and Rics as well. Those I can usually spot quick, but your Ric is better than most. You did a really good job pointing out the differences. Hopefully we can help someone!
@Squazzoo68
@Squazzoo68 9 лет назад
The one thing I don't understand is, if they can fake the logos and everything else, why are there always subtle differences like the body shape, binding/plastic color & so on? Probably good thing they still have those flaws, otherwise no one would be able to tell!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Squazzoo68 I think its so that they have plausible deniability. Chinese courts do have a small amount of respectability. If they continue to have these small things wrong they can't be sued successfully. That's my current theory but more and more things are adding up to this being true. And you're right, these things definitely keep people from being fooled.
@derin111
@derin111 8 лет назад
This is such a good video! I came upon it after looking at a guitar on Ebay here in the UK purporting to be a Gibson.After watching this video I can see that it fails on just about every single aspect that you've mentioned and is a complete fake.Thanks for posting !
@sammyp1971
@sammyp1971 9 лет назад
great points! Fantastic actually! There first thing i would check is the truss rod ...that's the deal breaker!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Sam Patterson It's one of the fastest ways for sure. Although I did see a knockoff the other day with a Gibson style one. I was surprised!
@patrickmoe
@patrickmoe 7 лет назад
Very informative. thanks.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Happy you enjoyed it Patrick!
@donniesavage2051
@donniesavage2051 10 месяцев назад
Thanks I learned a lot
@almfoto
@almfoto 8 лет назад
That last one, is the one where discussion begins among the class and the teacher gets pissed cause we saw some of the BS tip offs combined with some legit markers. Cool Video, thanks!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Adrian Massi LOL thanks man!
@rickygarner7719
@rickygarner7719 7 лет назад
Thanks man you saved a lot of folks from being burned 👍🏻💪🏻
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Happy to be of service!
@jbbeaudry
@jbbeaudry 8 лет назад
Thanks The last one was hard. I'm glad you managed to get one that is closer to what a real Gibson looks like, because such fakes will be definitely harder to spot.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+jbbeaudry this is true. The good thing is that lately they've been making ones just a little bit off... the cutaway is a dead giveaway on these one.
@johnroberts838
@johnroberts838 7 лет назад
Thank you, excellent video, I am selling a REAL Gibson 2004 Les Paul, with a slim 60's Neck, looking for a Fetter Neck Les Paul, this has been a great help thanks. Australia.
@georgemarcos8688
@georgemarcos8688 3 года назад
Thanks You know, I've been searching the RU-vid for a video about how to differentiate between fake and original fender. I wish if you can shoot a video about this cause in my country slot fender from different regions and manufacturers
@CloisterBell75
@CloisterBell75 9 лет назад
A few other tell-tale signs of a Chibson that I have seen are PUPs, electronic cavity and the maple cap. All of these "giveaways" require you to loosen a few screws, but worth the trouble. Chibson PUPs are stamped Epiphone on the back. Chibson electronics cavity looks like it has been chiseled out rather than precision cut. Chibson maple caps are a very thin veneer, as opposed to a thick cap. You'll notice this when inspecting the back of your PUPs.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Great additional points as well. Thanks man!
@EduardoVelezIII
@EduardoVelezIII 9 лет назад
These days you see real caps on the Chibsons.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+EduardoVelezIII I know! It's crazy... although the flame tops seem to be all veneers again.
@NHfiddle
@NHfiddle 3 года назад
Hello,, watching approximately 5 years later. My 2016 LP Trad has the fret nubs on it. This particular model was fashioned(sort of)after a 1958 standard. This is the year they went back to basics. I bought it in 2015 and never looked back. Gotta be the best Gibson Les Paul I've ever owned in a lot of years, that includes anything from the beginning. I've had 3 of them...a 1068 Deluxe gold top...1971 triple pick up(turned it into a Pater Frampton clone)and a 1976 Deluxe with the mini buckers in it. The '16 blows them all out of the water.
@Khosumi
@Khosumi 7 лет назад
You can also tell a chibson apart from a gibson if you look at the serial markings at the back of the headstock, real gibsons' markings tend to be a shallow cut whereas the chibson ones have a deeper cut to them. It should also be noted that if the indent at the top of the headstock appears crooked or lopsided, it's most likely a fake. Chibson's tross rod cover also sometime come with 3 screws in them.
@seanhammond4034
@seanhammond4034 3 года назад
I’m glad after watching the video for the main points, that I got the quiz right, the las one was a bit harder, but taking in what you said, I got it, 😎👍🏻
@jeffvader9960
@jeffvader9960 7 лет назад
another good way to spot a fake is to look at the binding where the neck and body meet as some of the chibsons have a small gap between where the bindings should meet
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 7 лет назад
Yup, great point!
@krustbag1039
@krustbag1039 6 лет назад
Thats how I decided that the last one was fake. everything else looked pretty decent, but you where moving it really fast, actually had to pause to get a good look, haha
@stephencox4509
@stephencox4509 5 лет назад
Nice excuse to show off all your sweet guitars! Lol. The kit at the end is really nice looking. Good job
@RolandNelson
@RolandNelson 8 лет назад
great vid !! Cheers !
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+Roland Nelson Thanks Roland!
@danohawk1
@danohawk1 9 лет назад
Great video and information... but all I found myself thinking about the whole video was how jealous I am! lol
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 9 лет назад
Dan Hawk LOL well thanks for checking it out. I'm lucky to have a very understanding wife!
@johnscottreardon
@johnscottreardon 6 лет назад
Great video.
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill 8 лет назад
I'm in Beijing. There is a musical instrument vendors street. Chibsons can be found but not a plentiful as one may think. Many replica Les Pauls without Gibson on the headstock. But there are a few shops that do have the Chibsons. After watching a few of these vids, it was easy to spot them. Besides the price tag being at around $350 for a "new" Les Paul Standard. That price would be negotiated of course, I imagine one could bargain it down to close to half that. But I'm not going to buy one. I've got too many guitars already. And I'm not in the import/export business either so don't bother asking.
@josephkemler6166
@josephkemler6166 6 лет назад
5 seconds 2 spot one😇 a bit Longer 4 fake musos!
@kieranoconnor333
@kieranoconnor333 8 лет назад
6/6 awwhhh yeee! Will be checking to make sure the my first gibson les paul tomorow isn't a fake... Thanks!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
Any time! Welcome to the world of les Paul ownership!
@TheYjmfan
@TheYjmfan 8 лет назад
Got it today it was nice except closer inspection reviealed the the tail stop and bridge fixing posts pulled straight out of the holes 😟😳 apart from a few other minor issues it played and sounded fantastic, thanks for your reply!
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
Congrats man!
@elcapitan83
@elcapitan83 8 лет назад
That Inverness green is gorgeous! Reminds me of Pelham blue, a bit
@elcapitan83
@elcapitan83 8 лет назад
Another tell, if present, the toggle switch ring has a different font/overall diameter on the Chibsons vs. real Gibbys. Nice collection, man!
@justinthymes5680
@justinthymes5680 8 лет назад
Thanks for the post.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+justin thymes Happy you enjoyed it!
@coltoncutlip2228
@coltoncutlip2228 9 лет назад
Great video
@toddinho0225
@toddinho0225 5 лет назад
Great vid! But I couldn’t really follow or see the headstock “wing” difference. What exactly do we look for there?
@TheZooman22
@TheZooman22 9 лет назад
Nice one Nick. I saw one the other day in a pawn shop, they thought they had a real Gibson Les Paul.
@NickintheStates
@NickintheStates 8 лет назад
+TheZooman22 I saw a vintage gibson a few months ago that had a Japanesew body on an american neck. Sad.
@GraemeSPa
@GraemeSPa 5 лет назад
I've just been on the Aliexpress site looking at Les Pauls - they have changed the tailpiece position and the headstock wings.
@sansebastian1972
@sansebastian1972 7 лет назад
college level course on spotting a Chibson, fantastic
@jeffreyschnoldt5388
@jeffreyschnoldt5388 5 лет назад
Very helpful
@johnt.campbell316
@johnt.campbell316 8 лет назад
lol... A "fake Chibson"?! Wouldn't _that_ be an *actual* Gibson?
@ziggyfreecloud3346
@ziggyfreecloud3346 7 лет назад
John T. Campbell Nope. A Fibson is a knock off Chibson
@maramoretti2655
@maramoretti2655 7 лет назад
John T. Campbell LOL.....
@TheDirtyyoungman1
@TheDirtyyoungman1 6 лет назад
Fineese perhaps?
@ericarndt7137
@ericarndt7137 6 лет назад
John T. Campbell
@matsp888
@matsp888 4 года назад
@David Wang Bad analogy.
@kita17n
@kita17n 4 года назад
thanks nick !!! you saved me 1500 bucks !!! I owe you a beer or 40
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