60 anniversary of the 1962 Sino-Indian war, bumbling Nehru, Krishna Menon, squabbling generals 

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General Thimaiayya had the foresight to understand that the domestic politics of Indian democracy will be no match for the Chinese autocracy, hence his idea of dealing the Chinese through negotiations still hold valid as of today

The truth is that after the coup in Pakistan, Indian politicians were scared that the Army in India may do a similar thing as all the Generals of both armies were actually comrades before partition. Hence the systematic degradation of the Indian Army by the politicians. Please remember that against all odds the Indian Army has remained the last bastion of the country and has not failed its people. Please talk about the soldiers who fought to the last bullet and man.

The entire responsibility for 1962 defeat goes to Nehru. He made VK Krishna Menon defence minister and promoted intrigues among top military commanders via PN Thapar , the worst soldier India has ever had. In turn Nehru had a very unpleasant end of his political life.

I know Krishna Menon played his role in lobbying with the British left during the war years and may have influenced Clement Atlee and his Labour Party, but as defence minister it was the pits. I wholeheartedly would welcome changing the name of Krishna Menon marg. As an army officer's daughter, just the thought of this man as India's defence minister is revolting. I am surprised to know that Gen. Thimayya was confiding in the British High Commissioner in Delhi, but for most parts, I am grown up with tremendous admiration for the man. BN Kaul and PN Thapar be damned.

My Mother's Eldest Brother A 1947 Commissioned Officer In The Flying Branch Of Indian Air Force As A Wing Commander In The Year Of 1962 Had Participated ... Fought In This Sino India War / Indo China War of 1962. He ( Mamajee ) Wii Always Remain in My Mind & Heart Fore Ever .❤❤🌹🌹😊😊😍😍 Proud Of Him

This Genaral thapar was father of karan thapar ? It shows !

This proves the point that the British controlled India long time after 15th August 1947; and continue to do so in the minds of the Lutyens.

Shekarji with all respect request you to control Hunduphobic articles from Vir Sanghvi, Hindus are already facing hard time in UK, US, Canada and people like Vir are adding fuel to rising Hunduphobia.

Isn't the same General Thapar, responsible for the defeat of the Indian army at the hands of the Chinese? Isn't he the father of the so called Journo Karan Thapar? Isn't he the uncle of the greatest historian Romila Thapars uncle? The lineage speaks for itself!!!

You have made many stories about Thimayya based on inputs from a Congress leader fromSouth. Thimmaya became a chief because of his outstanding performance in 1948 against PAK specially in Zozilla , and later in Korea. And Nehru was very impressed by him. Kaul was Guilty man No 1, Krishna Menon No 2 and Nehru No3. Indian army ( officer cadre) wasn’t very professional at that time and very inadequately equipped. Nehru was totally misled and tricked by Mao Tse Tung.

Gen PN THAPAR expelled , Krishna menon , pannikar , Vijay laxmi Pandit, roles should be explained, leftist openly supported China tell also , harkrishan surjeet , jyoti basu were jailed, RSS wAs asked parade in 1963 republic day parade, tell how nehru panicked and pissed asked for US help,, help arrived in form of transport aircraft piloted by American pilots for transportation of army troops, maps , intelligence information

Amazing the way Shekhar tells the story with a straight face! It's really hilarious!

With people of weak character and low confidence who were in awe of the Britishers and looked down upon the less anglicized Indians, it was obvious that BN Kauls would be given credence over a Gen Thimayya or Thorat. Poor quality political leadership lead to poor quality Generals who realised that the way to ascend to next level is through politicking and back biting. Clearly that’s what the generals started to do resulting in a deadly combination for India - v poor political generals, a third rate Def Minister Krishna Menon and a poor quality sychophant PM

The Indian Army today is dearly missing a capable leader like Mr. Manekshaw. He would suffer no fools in the government or the rot in the mil. hierarchy.

And their descendants is saying that Modi is afraid of China. Hahahaha

Some time later,research and let your viewers know why airforce was not used in 1962. A Major, probably his name ends as Bakshi, a two time MC, did a lot of survey of Chinese built up in Eastern Ladakh and reported these to top Army/ Airforce and even to the then Defence Minister. This gentleman, since last heard, was alive till the first lock out, lived in Andheri area of Mumbai.

I'm not surprised that Karan Thapar's dad headed the Army that time...Which self-respecting officer makes his son a journo 😊☺️💐

Gen JN chaudhari was moonlighting 😂😂 ..awesome sir

PN THAPAR is father of Karan Thapar.

Naming a road after Krishna Menon is nauseating, the great choice will of course be any of our brave soldier who laid their lives in that unequal war

Thank you for a most interesting story about our motherland’s history. I couldn’t help but draw analogy with the startup world.. when everyone is just driving various functions of the business in their own manner. There’s chaos, personnel choices are driven largely by the personality/proximity/like ability of the founder(s). And those personnel bring in their own style of processes, rules (or lack thereof) till such a time the startup matures sufficiently. Until that maturity is achieved, the mission/vision document (constitution, in case of the country and government) is simply a cosmetic document although put together with greatest passion and sacredness. I’m glad we’re in the highly evolved phase of our country now and can reflect and critique and learn from the past… hopefully good lessons will come out of the past! 🇮🇳 🌎

All the politics in the government & army headquarters lead to the loss of Aksai Chin while our Soliders fought bravely to the last bullet & heroically laid down their lifes in the line of duty.

No wonder he has son like karan Thapar

Nehru gave Akshi chin to china as a gift stating not a blade of grass grows there. But he could not get Noble prize

Gen P N Thapar is Dad of Karan Thapar and related to JNU History Goddess.

Let's Not Change History BUT Build New Roads And Name Them After War Hero's

Thanks for sharing. It is leader who needs to pick right person for a job. Nehru utterly failed....it is a pity we still revere Nehru an Gandhi, the very destroyers of our nation.

Reading about these histories, mistakes and corrections, we realize how far we have come and and how far we yet have to go to be called a mature nation.

Nehru was the biggest strategic failure India had which changed the Indian history for ever. The Partition, The Kashmir problem and the Humiliation by China. Three big blots on his life and still he was the most respected leader, why? Indira Gandhi was by far the best leader when it comes to Strategic decisions for India.

Interesting snippets of Indian history. This was known in bits and pieces. Stitched together in a sequence, it gives a clearer picture.

Do not tarnish image of General Thimmaya. Whatever general might have allegedly shared with the British was known to everyone openly in Lutyens Delhi.

Please increase the volume in video

Which is the book that sir is referring to? Please share the name of the book. It would also be helpful if you could share the link of the original unabridged version.

Was it just seniority or his relationship with Nehru family. Pran thapar's wife and vijaylaxmi pandit's (Nehru's sister) son in law were siblings...

Also, nobody should forget that Indian Air Force was not used by Nehru, the chief architect of Chinese Victory.😡

Do CBSE textbooks cover post Independence India in detail? I think it's high time we start talking more about 62 than the freedom movement

Nehru though that the country didn't need an Army. Please research the systematic degradation of the Indian Army starting from the early 50s. Ordinance factories started manufacturing cutlery. The Indian Army which was one of the best in the world just after Independence was slowly reduced to nothingness. Our diplomacy was pathetic and our politicians couldn't put their money where their mouth was. The deplorable conditions in which our men fought is unprecedented. In a democracy, the Political class has to state the intent, facilitate the Military and they will do their task.

What a mess we had. It is scary to think that the country's defence was at mercy of such leaders. The common soldiers and low wrung officers protected our land with their lives. Zara yaad Karo qurbani..

Sir you forgot to mention that Gen Thapar was appointed Chief because he was related to Pt Nehru through his wife

Hi Do any one remember the video in whichshekhar sir talked about Smiling Buddha and how it came... The war between magadha and vajji?!

I think they should make the Henderson Brooks-Bhagat Report public. It's a democracy. The public is entitled to such information even if it's embarrassing. It will help us reflect upon are failing and enforce ACCOUNTABILITY on public offices.

SG is silent and soft on General Thapar who was shown up as an incompetent man. Maybe SG and his soft corner for Karan Thapar was the reason.

Brilliant story telling as always.

Which book you are referring to? The one written by Jairam Ramesh?

Dear The Print Team, Kindly make a correction at 5:47 The caption says Menon whereas it should be Thimayya

Worth a revisit.Among all the incompetence “squabbling Generals” rankles. The Army fought bravely. And therein lies the irony. Tailpiece: The Q is have we leant a lesson? Can we have an MOD filled with those not in Uniform, without doubtful knowledge on National security issues? Just asking. Security of a Nation against external threats has to be handled by a combination of diplomats, bureaucrats, Defence persons in service et al. working in unison as a team. MOD is that team. I do not see the media, security e perks et al debating this issue.

5:45 ... isn't that a typo? Gen Thimmya was sharing the info with his neighbor - right?

Awesome episode

Will like to know just for theory if our military were in hands of Netaji's sena.... Shekhar sir if you can do an episode on it

What about Nehru? Nehru considered China as friend and undermined threat from China. He tried to be friendly with China and it is claimed that he offered United Nations permanent seat which was initially offered to India. Also relied on incompetent Military Generals and Defence Personnel

This episode reminds me of the episode on the book The Checkered past on defense minister Menon

Last line I fully agree change name of Krishna Memon marg👍🏻

Correct krishmenon marg name should be changed

do think of a commentary on the kantara phenomenon and reasons behind this movie taking the country by strom..and the lesson populist politician can draw from the downfall of Lizz Truss are we also breeding likes of such in some states in India.

Thank you for the information

If Thimayya indeed said Indian Army cannot protect India from China then he is not only the worst chief of Army but also the most incompetent. The British left behind a massive Army which was primarily used to subjugate the natives and fight colonial wars. In 2nd world war, British India Army was the largest all volunteer Army. The Chinese didn't have an effective airforce in 1962 and the infrastructure to supply troops over the vast inhospitable Tibetan plateau were rudimentary at best. China could never win any long drawn battle with India purely for geographical reason. This is true even today with massive Chinese infrastructure across LAC.

This is the reason you are ahead in the game

Mr Gupta, this episode confirmed to me a long held suspicion I had about the High Command of the Indian Forces; imagine a General moonlighting for a newspaper, another sharing classified information with a British diplomat, a third bad mouthing his colleague, you name it, the perfidy of these individuals is mind boggling. That was in the 1960s, has it changed? I do not think so, the individuals at the helm of the Forces give me the impression of being careerists first and foremost and soldiers somewhere down the line. Otherwise, how can one explain a General suing the Government because of a dispute about his retirement age ? Or imagine my consternation when I was visiting India a few years ago and a school friend of mine telling me that two young men from the North of India had come to his shop asking for a job as watchmen; he did not have one, but, seeing they were really fit, asked them why did they not join the Forces. With a wry smile they said - Sahib, it takes a baksheesh to get accepted (they mentioned the equivalent of over a year's salary, an amount I forget now)!. I could not believe it. Imagine the impact of this on the morale! of the Jawans! If this is the prevailing culture, it certainly does not stop there rather, it is reflective of a profound malaise that is gnawing at the entrails of the organization at multiple levels ; and that clubby culture you mention, it is well and truly very much alive, i venture. It pains me to say this. I hear - Oh, now we are better equipped, etc, etc! It is a fallacy Morale MUST come first, materiel ,training and the rest, follows. Thank You.

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Interesting!

When we lose war, we blame PM, when we win war, we credit to Generals....1962 & 1971, Nehru & Indira Gandhi, Sam manekshaw

Sir, you make videos of 30 minutes only, like you used to make earlier, in which you used to give your valuable comments on multiple topics... 🙏🏻🙏🏻

in my opinion when Krishna Menon was high commisioner of India in London Chinese ladies were frequently photographed with him . Could it have been a honey trap because after he left London he had become India born china foreign minister .he was a bachelor just like his father as one Indian army general stated .

War was lost in delhi not in aksai chin..

Menon was a disgrace. Nehru had delusions of grandeur re. China. India continues to suffer this debacle. The general talking to the BHC compromises security as the UK is selfish then as it is now. Governance was at failure. Has the Indian system learnt? A shameful period of India. China recognised this and played their card. This continues today.

🤨 this means colonial slavery continued in defence ? 🕰️ for 🇮🇳 to come out of this black spot…

Sir, it is our request to u to do a cut the clutter on Netaji Subhash chander Bose and mystery surrounding his death, the declassified files on Netaji life

P. N.Thapar was a coward.

Hearing this, it makes me realize how much GODs Hand was there in shaping India. One slight step here or there and we would have had a very different past.

This defeat tells us , security of the country should be hold paramount over anything, even cult leadership. Nehru was a good intellectual activist but not a cunning leader who can make shit done .. whether on economic front , city planning , educational institutions, R&D and military. This country failed in all aspects since 70 years of Leftist-Congress alliance.

What about Guilty Men of 2020-2022?

Thanks Shankar bahi. We need this . What a mess Nehru and kabal.

Kaul was a shame on the legacy of the Indian Army

All people chosen by Nehru for top posts like Krishna Menon as defence minister or PC Mahbolonis as economic advisor were great idiots and ruined India both in terms of defence and economics

1962 is the war of humiliation...every Indian want to forget....

Very lucid and clear. I still feel Maneckshaw did not deserve to be the chief and he won the war on the back of Lt Gen JS Aurora. Also, you should have highlighted that Thimayya became chief after superseding Two Sikh generals. This is important and shows a subtle undercurrent against Sikhs at that time. Otherwise well done.

Dear why no show on Recent Congress president Mallikarjun Karge?

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First culprit was army (its there job to fight), second culprit was political leadership mainly Nehru. His greed for becoming world leaders over hard power.

It's very easy to point fingers at Nehru and Krishna Menon but they were the real architects of modern India along with Ambedkar. The institutions of democracy Nehru spearheaded defines modern India. Even today, India remains a single entity because of Nehru and Ambedkar.

Mr. S. Gupta has completely overlooked the rumour of Krishnamenons liasson with a Soviet Union secretary who had informed him that Chou enlai would attack India but Menon chose to keep this fact from the cabinet and even Nehru. Menon knew of, from his lover from the Soviet union high commission a secretary in Britain when Menon himself was the high commissioner from india to Britain, these are rumours from that time, some saw the light of day in the papers but the rest was suppressed. But as per allegations menon knew of the chinese attack at least 6 to 8 months before it took place but did not report back to his masters in Delhi. As stated these are allegations never delved into. S. Gupta as a serious journalist can do so or should do so.

There's an interview of Gen Manekshaw on RU-vid claiming that Indira Gandhi had asked him directly that is it true that she heard about the Army wants to takeover the govt? Today I got to know even Nehru had the same fear! What an insecure and power hungry class of family!

The Indian Express : 8 former Indian Navy officers, working for Qatar company, being held in Doha The former Navy officers worked for a company called Dahra Global Technologies and Consultancy Services, The Indian Express has learnt. ( lets see what Mr. Shekhar Gupta has to say...... dont forget another indian naval officer Kalbhoshan in Pakistan prison )

@SG 9:00 India got indipendent country in 1947 & you are saying even in 1960-62 president & Supreme commander of our force had no idea about who had what power ? Was it a joke or serious statement?

It was great failure of Nehru and Menon they didn't allow Airforce to fly and do the job, China was poorer than us, they didn't have Airforce like ours. It's Nehru the Last British Prime Minister ruled the Nation. Most Undeserving Man

Shekhar, the topic of the video shows you are to discuss about the guilty men of 1962. You have only discussed the army generals. Let me tell you such petty issues between the generals do not lead to loss in war. Actually, during war there are many more issues which come up but after choosing the final course the issues don’t remain to be important. Example is the obedience of the officers to General Kaul, despite disliking him. And you ‘lose in your ears’ - please translate the Hindi idiom to understand this, I couldn’t recollect an equivalent English idiom. You are carried away by some unimportant books like the book by Jairam written to cover up themselves. The real guilty people were Kaul, Menon and Nehruji come up with that if you can. It pains us to write to you in these words

Yes, I agree with the name of Maj Saitan Singh.

A good analysis but the list of guiltymen cannot be completed on failing to include the name of are so called 'chachcha Nehru' who in preceding years of the war exposed the defence preparations to the top notch of Chinese military leaders and made them believe about a confirmed victory over India following a disastrous humiliation....

1962 a crazy year. both china and india anexed land (tibet 1959, goa 1961), they looked at himalaya when nepal placed it current flag in constitution , nepalrecieved first trade blockade from india, british responded by making nepal king field marshal of entire british army year 1962. china invade india the news recived by neru in kathmandu nepal (for diplomacy as his goverment did the trade ban), india krisna meon went to uk to solve any issue. India just ended Portugal rule over goa (451 year history). So internationally if india can initate war , it can also defend. the mindset was crazy .

TKNR.THANKS FOR THE EXPOSURE.THE BIG MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE BY MR. NEHRU THE WHOLE BHARAT INDIA IS FACING NOW TO UPLIFTING AS THE NUMBER ONE PEACEFUL ADVANCED NATION.

Decolonisation of the Indian mind is an ongoing process but in 1962 it had not yet begun!

This is an abridged version from an episode in 2020 !! Wondering why today ? Is it because here in London - British politics is in absolute meltdown 😅😅😅.

Please touch upon the subject of non holding of assembly elections in J&K. It should have happened at this time

In all this explanation you underestimated great contribution of Mr.Y.B. CHAVHAN I SIMPLY FEEL THAT

Why you spared Lt. Gen. BM Kaul while going in detail. After all he was the main villain.

What a bloody mess. Can we have a CTC on how Y B Chouhan restored the army

clearly PN thappar responsible for Military misfortune in 1962 war.

Why this analysis suddenly

India top political brass was not of want war, think war, prepare for war, do war mentality type. They were much wanted to become World's Statesmem personalities added the top military brass was anglicised and elitist rather than being battle hardened war shrewd General's. What a perfect cocktail for failure.