600 Horsepower Snow Gas Engine startup (Coolspring, June 2022) 

Weee-upa-ook-chaw, weee-upa-ook-chaw, weee-upa-ook-chaw.

That’s what she said

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a Sound like Music 🙂

They all sing their own song, and each is beautiful in its own right

Yep! It is definitely a beautiful engine.

Also, I have doubts that today's engines will last as long as this one(and many others) do.

@@h.mandelene3279 A current design are intentionally designed to be that durable (and i don't believe the designers of this engine intended it to be running for something like 60 years) because that is what the customer WANTS due to most customers beliefs on how long their business is gonna have the new fangled toy running.

Who needs fine tolerances when everything’s just freaking huge

@@alexphillips4325 : Forgot the Pyramids I guess.

"smack your grandma" taken to new levels

You should check out one of the videos on container ship engines. You can't see as many moving parts but the flywheel alone is more massive than this whole pump.

Iron I think 🤔

@@htomerif Yeah, but this engine was made 1917, and that´s impressive, that it still runs.

@@Pgranlund I mean yeah, its still impressive. It would be interesting to see it under a load though. I didn't look too hard but it looks like the gas pipes on the compressor head are just open to the air.

You're welcome, I'm sure you enjoyed!

But don’t you hear the music, the shush, shush back-and-forth?

Lmao no shit hub

Wouldn't call it music. But it does sound like it has a percussive rhythm.

I create industrial noise tracks with synths. The sounds on this video would totally pass as analog one, down to beat and tone. I have actually used steam engine sounds on my music projects.

I worked at a station in Kansas that had 21 of these in one building, but it was retired in 1993.

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I love how you an actually hear each of the four strokes

It sure was! Thanks for watching!

That is why it is called TUNING AN ENGINE when it is out of tune. 😉

@@franciscoosuna259 🤦‍♂️🤣 I'll make a NOTE of that.

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I know right, when I saw that I instantly saw a human looking arm, elbow and all, pushing and pulling!😂

Seriously though, what is that arm doing?

@@Steve-nb9kg Hopefully someone who works on gas engines will reply. Maybe something related to distributing lubricating oil? (i.e. each stroke is being sensed - so perhaps once each stroke it actuates a small pump?) How these folks can restore such a machine is amazing.

@@bill8985 They usually require little to no restoration. They are overbuilt on purpose, as cost cutting measures were very conservative in order to ensure reliability and durability.

lol, i hope you are commenting on a victorian steam-powered computer! 🤣

hallelujah

Looks like it is made of very strong forged steel. No plastic or built in life expectancy - obsolescence here.

They dont make them like this anymore because they need to be affordable, fuel efficient, small and light. End of story. You will find turbo jet and turbo fan engines are similar to this in terms of materials used, cost, maintenance and life. Most of the jet engines from the 1950’s are still in use today and only minor changes from the original design have happened.

Ещё скажите что Буре свои Часы тоже вручную делал все сделано на станках вопрос а станки на каких станках делали итак бесконечно

Almost any motor can last forever with proper maintenance. Replacing parts is part of the maintenance just like with any other motor.

@@kizzjd9578 sadly emissions killed turbine engines for a lot of applications.

Amazing story sir! The old Worthington equipment was definitely engineered well and built to last! Thanks for watching!

Old machines were built to last decades, or indefinitely with proper maintenance. Modern machines are built to last the government mandated warranty period. I'm currently in the process of restoring my old lathe and even after 70+ years, it requires minimal work to bring it back to perfect. And it was designed that way. They knew, decades in the future that someone would want to bring it back to new, so they allowed for that in the design. I can't imagine anyone doing business like that now, and it's sad.

So what was their main power used for

@@ThreePhaseHigh Description says it was used to compress natural gas. Probably for delivery into residential pipelines for furnaces, stoves, etc

Very interesting story! Thanks for sharing!

Hello THANK YOU for sharing your experience

Yeuph ! The SNOW must GO ON “ my man ! “

SCAB they call it 😅😁

scab

I totally agree with you Tim, the engineering behind these old machines is crazy and to think everything was designed before computers and using only manpower.

Along with this comment, do you believe an engine built today would still be running. These were huge yes, but they were robust engines made to endure extreme conditions.

@@brianbumgardner8704 Most likely not. Engines today are much more complex and aren't meant to last more than a decade thanks to planned obsolescence.

Indeed and when you look at the valve gear, it's almost as if you can envisage a team of humans operating that with the guidance of an orchestra conductor.

I know of a pipeline company that finds and rebuilds the older gas compressors just because on thier flat reliability. Example, the had one that developed an injector leak and blew off all its blast (!) doors. 6 months later it was running again. I think 780 rpm day in, day out.

Last for near forever......

Current engines do more in a year then these engines do in a century

@@bartdereu9267- these old engines lasted a century, modern ones only a few years.

@@friendlypiranha774Yes, due to massive overengineering and inefficiency in those old engines. Today, engineering can design to much higher power and efficiency by using parts designed to a specific use and lifetime - no need to build 500 year engines for machines that operate for 20 years.

100 RPM * 1440min/day * 350days/year (near continouus with some downtimes for maintanence) * 70 years (assuming it ran to the 1980s, which they did to my knowledge) = 352.800.000 cycles modern car engine: 2500 RPM (av.) * 60min/hour * 2000-4000h = 300.000.000 - 600.000.000 cycles Pretty similar ;)

Yeah, I was thinking about the size of the foundry and sand pit they'd need to make such huge castings.

@@unchosenid We poured incredible castings at McNally Foundry Pittsburg? Kansas. All molds for castings, with exception of the huge butterfly valve for hydroelectric dams, were crafted in a 2 piece flask. The bottom flask was called a drag; the top was a cope. There was a large pit in the foundry floor where the butterfly valve mold was assembled. Once assembled and ready to pour, 2 hot 10,000 pound capacity ladles were filled with molten iron from the furnaces. Timing and teamwork was important to insure temp was good and carbon and silicon content was good to pour. Butterfly valves were poured from 2 10,000 pound ladles simultaneously requiring skill and confidence from the crane operators and pouring crew. After pouring, the casting would smolder buried for a couple of days. Then a crew of us with shovels would start digging it out. After enough digging we would use chains and the crane to pull it free of the mold. A 15 ton crane was used to carry the casting about 60 yards south. There it was placed on 1,000 pound solid iron scale weights arranged to hold it up so we could clean it with air powered chisels and grinders. At this point the casting was unrecognizable and encrusted with burnt sand . But first, the huge risers had to be removed. This required the welder using a heliarc - hours of cutting to prepare the riser to be knocked off. Then using a 1,000 pound scale weight carefully swinging on a chain hooked to crane, the crane operator would knock off the risers. Hopefully the riser would not take a hunk of the casting with it. Then we could clean it. Sometimes during the cleaning process a bad place on the casting was discovered. The quality control guy would inspect, there would be a powwow and maybe the casting would be scrapped.

@@kevinknewtson7284 That's amazing. I love watching videos of foundries casting huge objects. I run a small bronze foundry. When I first started the business I made my own small cope and drag but decided to use the lost wax method instead because even though it's the most expensive method, per piece, to cast the casting comes out with a smooth finish requiring significantly less polishing work. I use a #6 crucible that holds around 18 pounds of bronze. LOL. In fact I cast last night.

@@unchosenid have you tried 3D printing your molds with lost plastic? I was wondering how well that would work. Thanks

@@charlesmckinley29 3D printing would not work for the lost wax method since it takes too long to print them. I have thought about using 3D printing to make the master patterns used to make the rubber molds that I use to cast my wax parts. What I do is take the part I want to reproduce and make either a two or three part mold of the part. I then use this mold to pour the wax into. Once the wax hardens I remove the part and "tree" a number of them onto a wax "trunk". They then get put into a flask that was filled with investment and it hardens. Once that happens I put the flask in a kiln and melt the wax out, then burn the residue out, then pour the bronze in the void left behind by the "lost" wax.

Yes, the engineering behind these engines is incredible especially since everything was done without computers and pretty much only manpower was used to build them. Back in 1917 when this engine was built it was very technologically advanced compared to the steam engines.

@Retired Bore Very interesting! I found the VW engines being used to generate electricity and heat to be a pretty darn good idea the more I thought about it. Thanks for sharing that neat info!

That Vertical Triple Expansion Engine was used in the movie Titanic. The engine is very similar to the Quadruple Expansion Engines of the Titanic.

Wow I’d hate to see the whopper then !!! So sad to think that they got rid of all of them but that one !!! But then again it’s better than nothing I know it cost how much the house one of those things ?? Untold piles of money .. LOLOLOL ..

Amazing!

У нас такие три на станции городского водопровода. Там даже стоять рядом дух захватывает.

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Mens*

@@sugiuwara4266 mans*

Wat a buncha hooey

LOL! When it was going full speed I thought to myself; "That things got a good beat going."

You're not talking about the Triple Steam? There are three triple-expansion steam engines upriver from Cincinnati? Watch the video Cincinnati Triple Steam for more. Bucket list to get on a tour of this facility... not easy! They are vertical, and ran on steam... this is horizontal, and runs on petroleum/gas/whatever... internal combustion. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7-Fr3Rjn8iQ.html

@@scowell my goodness it has been 40 years since I last saw those pumps, I was always awestruck k by their size, it was the flywheels that remind me of them, if you love old machines, it is a bucket list item. Now thinking about taking the grand kids there, as their great great grandfather worked on such engines . He passed away when I was 2, so I never got to know him, but he knew steam .. sadly all of the power plant including the smoke stack were demolished . Was there when the pilot carbon plant was built , the regeneration of the carbon was key to making it work, ,

Yessir, very true!

Give it a 30 day warrantee and sell it!

@@J_Westbrook There are no spare parts anymore... 😂

@@stubi1103 those can be made in a machine shop.

@@dennislock3415 Of course you are absolutely right, a well-equipped machine shop can always repair such machines. I myself have worked on lathes and milling machines for many years. Hopefully there are still the model molds for the foundry.

2:31 Is that tray at the end where it collects the cones that come out? How many does it make per minute? I heard it only pumps out thirtypoop a minute but can do more if you turn the knobs. I am the British man in the bath robe in this video operating the engine but that doesn't mean I know everything about it does it now? When I went to start it I had a problem.

That seems to be a problem at CPM when it comes to making sure all the water is out of the engines before winter. An OTTO engine in the pump house had cracks in it because it wasn’t drained many years ago. Everyone wants to play with engines and set them up, routine maintenance just like on a race car is never a popular endeavor. Help is easy to find during the shows but when all of that comes to an end, it’s hard to find people willing to do the work. It’s no different anywhere else.

@@yt650 tell me about it, I help on on nkp765 there is tons of grunt work unglamorous grunt work, that almost anyone can do some has a bit of an art to it or doing it getter, or knowing where parts need cleaned before its done, or everytime we have the engine fired up long enough eventually someone usually me, "but its a badge of honor" and move all the clinker and ash to the middle of the grates so it can be dumped and sweep the grates off when tilted, it gets you looking like you went coal minning and its a confined space, or blowing out the flues so the engine can breath and we can inspect it during the off season before we hydrostatic test it before running each year, or needle scaling and de rusting things theres tons of that too on the other stuff, and scraping locomotive hard rod grease off the underside of the engine and its a thick as tar, and hard to get off your gloves and hands and it gets places and corners you never knew existed.

Thank you very much!

Compressed air is used to start these types of engines

May be able to get similar or even higher horsepower BUT they would be nowhere near the 31,500 ft-lbf of torque.

@@plumberman4u All you have to do is run a modern engine through a gear reduction system and you will get the identical torque as this engine running at 100 RPM

@@mikehess8116 you can hear the compression release before it gets up to speed.

@@plumberman4u And that torque means nothing. Just use a gear system to exchange rpm for torque. Remember: Work = Force through a distance. Power = Work per time. And torque is merely a measure of force. And as regards torque Power = RPM * torque So it's trivial to exchange between RPM and torque, double one, halve the other and the result is the same amount of power.

I have seen that one run on both compressed air and her own. I hope to see it run again this August. One impressive machine!!!!

Exactly. There were more than a few steam engines converted to internal combustion. Really interesting that this one has fire on BOTH sides of the pistons, just like most steam engines had steam on both sides of the piston.

Thanks for watching! Yes, this engine runs very quiet. To think this engine was designed and built in 1917 is mind boggling!

It isn't complicated, it is basically very simple. The main trouble if you intend to do a new one using 1900 tech is finding (or amassing the knowledge which means a fair amount of trial-and-error) the filers and erecting mechanics which can do it (they need to be able to scrape a straight plane for the moving parts of the piston rod,)

It sure is Ed, thanks for watching!

Running at just 100 RPM is what makes it quiet relative to a modern compressor

Thanks for watching Colin! I'm glad you enjoyed. Yes, this engine is very impressive.

@@ericcoffedgp40 It's part of the engineering history of your great nation. It's vital that young people see what innovators from a bygone age created I believe Eric.

@@colvinator1611 I totally agree! As I always say, we must preserve the past to educate the future.

@@colvinator1611 America is made up of Immigrants who brought their skills to the country. Much of our talent is imported, and handed down through generations. Many immigrants brought their whole community, and kept many of their traditions. There were "German" towns found in many states. Places called China town, where it resembles Chinese cultures, and arts. We have an area, in our city, where it is known for Italian culture and food. After ww2, be brought the German scientists to help produce NASA. You can see many cultures, believe it or not, that resemble the world. We are like a mixing pot of all other countries, in terms of the people who live here, and the cultures within it. I think it is important to note, also, that the most talented people tend to want to go to America for their best opportunities. It is safe to say that we have talent, from all over the world, concentrated into one big country. It took all of those skills, from all of those cultures, and allowed the freedom to combine them. Because freedom allowed exploration, there were failures. but the growth was very organic, over time, but concentrated during wartime.

Yessir, 100% mechanical! Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed!

It sure is! Thanks for watching!

I would definitely recommend going to Coolspring to see this engine in action, it is a real neat piece of history.

Yep, these kinds of engines drove a lineshaft which drove all the equipment.

@Retired Bore Very cool! It's amazing that machine was still doing its job so many decades later!

@Retired Bore I set up and operated such a Brown and Sharpe automatic screw machine (a 2G model) made in WW2, up until the late 90's, We made small punches and dies.

The size of the castings are very impressive, these engines were produced in small numbers so the castings weren't used very much when these engines were being manufactured.

I knew about a computer for which an engineer was kept onsite full time to repair it when it would break.

I'm glad you can appreciate the preservation of these old machines. Thanks for watching!

But not with that torque…

Would you be surprised to learn there is no counterweight at all? It's simply the 287 yards of concrete it's bolted to and that flywheel that absorb the forces.

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Obv not at those torque levels. 😂

@@rykerhasyounow Yeah definitely! The torque produced by this engine is unbelievable!

It's a service life issue. 600 HP on a tiny I4 doing 18,0000 RPM is a 10 minutes service life thing. Whereas this was built to do 600 HP 24/7 for 10 decades.

The great old days

@@fredblair8694 Not as great as the new ones! 😉

I'm glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching Michael, I am glad you enjoyed!

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Very good! Thanks for sharing that information!

@@ericcoffedgp40 that was the work I enjoyed the most.

@@gilgarcia3008 Very nice!

You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed!

It sure is! Thanks for watching!

@@ericcoffedgp40 What can you tell me about the adventure of enclosing the big SNOW engine ??

@@victoryfirst2878 The Snow engine was definitely quite a sight to see being moved and seeing the building built around it was also quite impressive.

@@ericcoffedgp40 I have to see it in its glory in person. Probably this coming year. Got to get my foot fixed.