.69 Cal. Minié ball and .73 Cal FURY slug - 12ga. Rifled choke tests 

I love those scientific test video's from the private range, very educative!

*OG* I felt that recoil through my computer monitor man. :-)

"We cant stop here, this is Fledermaus country."

Thank you for your time (and OG's shoulder) guys. Looking forward to the next one :)

In Russia most rifled chokes are 1:900 mm twist rate which is almost 1:36". When it comes to rifled choke you have to pay great attention to it's muzzle. Because it is in fact equivalent of rifle's crown. These slots for choke wrench is a DISASTER!!! If you have access to a lathe you should cut this choke until slots go off, make decent muzzle chamfer. To screw this choke in and out - make knurling in the middle and use bicycle-chain-style (or oil filter style) wrench.

Those slugs are EPIC! look forward to further tests

Minie ball should expand to fill rifling even without sabot

Will not the mini ball base expand to engage the rifling once it’s fired wasn’t that the original design?

Turned that brick into dust. So much for hiding behind walls because the second shot will get you.

That was pretty cool when the brick turned to dust. Nice job guys! 👍 Hope Danny is well...

I own a .72 cal muzzle loading rifle and be assured, nothing beats a soft lead bullet for pure smack down power! Awesome to see soft lead doing it's job in slow motion. Thanks for posting.

That second shot was beautiful. Brick dust explosion.

Looking forward to the Minnie ball full video. Recoil, lots and lots of recoil, was what I expected. I wasn't expecting you to just delete a brick. We've all seen your table flexing when you shatter water jugs, but this was insane. Gel-nastics always make me smile.

Can't wait to see the in depth videos on these bad boys! Hope Danny is getting plenty of rest in preparation 😆

After all, 5 inches of rifling is more than a lot of pocket pistols. Thanks for sharing these awesome videos.

Holy hell both those slugs sent that vest flying.

Only 5" of rifling? If I am remember correctly there are a lots of snub-nose revolvers with barrels much shorter than 5"... And they are accurate. It is hard to shoot accurate from snub nose, but that is because small sight radius.

Minie ball is quite a devastating round, looking forward for the full video!

I have a mold for 58 cal Minie bullets . I think I'll give them a try in my 12 ga . I also own a Thompson Center Pro Hunter rifle with two barrels , one in 7mm Remington Magnum and the other in 416 Rigby . There is a barrel for the TC Pro Hunter chambered for 12 ga fully rifled that I've considered buying . There's another 12 ga barrel choked for turkey hunting that I've also considered . I haven't fired my TC yet , but I've loaded some test rounds in 7mm Remington Magnum and am about to load up some 416 Rigby rounds . Thanks TFM and crew . You guys are making some great videos .

You're a rather successful channel, and could be the gold standard in Slug testing....IF you'd *TEST* THEM out, rather than merely try them out. It occurs to me that most any of them will hit minute of man @ 15 or 25 yards... but let's see which ones are the best.

What you have there is a “Paradox”, a type of slug-firing shotgun invented in 19th century in England. Now you can buy air rifles with this type of barrel that are super accurate. The Germans in WWII used this method on anti-tank guns with good results.

All I have to say is WOW!!!! Impressive!!!!!

My CVA hunterbolt magnum muzzle loader is 1:26 twist rate. Above 1:48 are mostly better for round ball with a patch. 1:48 does great with lead conical bullets what I’ve shot anyways. Great video GOD BLESS youns Amen.

hey, you may not need the shot cup if the lead bullet is hollow base and soft enough to spread out and contact the rifling.

That poor fly got bumbuzzled at 3.14! Look at the top left corner of the ballistic gel.

Great Job guys! I'm impressed.

Great to see the ads! And the great content o'course 😅

The choke tube you are using was made by Beretta. Wish I could find one in Australia. They don't make them any more.

Awesome video. Love the way the mini-ball dusted that brick.

R&D are your friends, ours too since we get to watch! Thanks TFM Team! Hey how’s Danny? He missed out on some serious shoulder time there.

Nice shooting !!!

RU-vid... this video was in my recommended over a week after it was uploaded. First time seeing this vid now, great job youtube.

Thanks for another great video. Loved the way you explained the choke tube. Very easy to understand. Keep up the great work.

3:42 NICE OG VERY IMPRESSIVE.

Arent minie balls supposed to be a little undersized? Doesn't the hollow base expand on ignition to engage the rifling?

The ballistic jelly made the upward curl after being struck by the shattering red brick was insane

The minie ball is designed to spread it skirts out under gas pressure to engage the rifling.

I believe the FX smooth twist barrels operate in the same procedure as a choked smoothbore shotgun

Wow! That's a lot of damage!

My phone nearly shook itself out of my hand. Christ.

More of these would be awesome! I wonder what they look like if you could recover at least one of each. 👍🏼

Cool little teaser ;)

You guys need to shoot bricks under ballistic gelatin more often, that was cool!

OUCH! OG needs to get Hazard Duty Pay.

Its funny, my cousin was talking about how hard various rifles kick and i said nothing kicks like a 12 or 10 gauge and he dosent belive me. So i bought some 3&1/2 inch turkey loads for him to try out haha

I'm working up 20 guage loads for the Lee .575 minie ball, and the Lee improved minie ball. All I have is a 28" smooth bore with a rifled choke tube from ebay as well. I hope my loads perform half as well as these. They are at the MAX weight for 20 guage... but not over weight, but with the right wad column, powder and gun this could be an EXTREMELY powerful 20 guage load. As always, love seeing your 12 guage versions lol! Just a question, can I use the base of a wad called for in a specific recipe with the petals cut off and the bullet loaded into the shotcup from another type of wad, or is that a No No? I have perfect recipes for 1 1/4 oz 20 guage loads using Fio shells and primers(what i have on hand) and Hogdgon Long shot powder(what I have on hand as well.) I know I can cut the petals off a wad safely... but can I sub a different shotcup to help hold the minie ball and grip the rifling in the choke? The recipe calls for waa20 wads, which I have, but the minie fits perfect in a trap commander shot cup. Cut the petals off the waa20 and the base off the trap commander and use them together? Is this Safe? Just seems kind of like a sabot round with a gas seal and seperate sabot... but I can't find 20 guage sabots anywhere. Any info is always very much appreciated, and ill continue to support ya'll forever! I Love Taufladermaus! Jim Browm

Hey Mouse and Officer Greg and wild man Danny.

I would love to get some of those fury slugs. Find I don't have the knowledge or the equipment to use them. It would be great if fury would sell them as complete ammunition with brass shells.

Also, great video. .69 cal Minie ball, who'd have thunk it?

that is NUTS that youtube will demonitize you guys over such goofy things an then they turn around and let actually ILLEGAL things get posted here - STREET RACING,MOTORCYCLE STUNTS ON PUBLIC ROADS - these and other similar ILLEGAL things should be totally banned from youtube. you guys arent doing anything illegal or even immoral an unethical. people are so backwards ! LOVE YOUR CHANNEL !!

Would love to see just how far these loads are effective

Huh. Felt like all the other videos with the rifles choke tube were proof enough. Cool little device. Does the rifling cause the shotgun to be classified differently?

I think RU-vid demonetizes content providers that are on patreon. That’s got to be the only explanation, given the horrible, miserable shit that RU-vid allows people to post. This is a lovely, friendly, just having fun like half of America kind of show.

Good sciencing brozos😂😂 we love a good slugeratin sciencification presentation 🎉

pretty sure you dont need that sabo for the Minie ball, in muzzleloader shooting those are always small then the rifling (yea muzzleloading how else could you fit that round in) but it will expand from the pressure when fired (hence it has a cavity in the back with a relative soft and thin skirt) Would be cool if you can test them without the sabo and see if it still works :)

Never seen a vest fly like that,that was pretty sweet those things definitely got some momentum.

put some grease in that minnie ball cavity thats how it expands in to the rifiling

Now load them up with a max charge of blue dot or Asteel and feel the pain!

Did you ever measure the firing speed of the nail gun blanks on .22 rounds ? Could be worth checking for a video if you still happen too have this stuff around.

You going to come up with your own version of the "Meat Target" that Paul does? I would love to see what damage these do to something like that.

Did anyone see the bee get slapped around by the ballistic gel on the first shot?

Awesome

I didn't see this in my feed.

Yup....muskets were elephant guns.

Way back in the caveman days I was taught that the Minie' round has a hollow base to allow it to expand under pressure and engage the rifling. Wonder if that's true, and if so whether it will work in the smooth bore + choke tube.

So just a random idea ever thought of steel washers with a bolt threw it as a slug

Longer episodes , please.?maybe 10- 15 min.

Hey I was out in Sanger and I swear one of your slugs just missed my car!

Wow, that ballistic gel is doing some crazy stuff. I'll definitely be looking forward to seeing more of these.

After shooting those +40 grams bullets, O.G heavy metal band "Sturdy Lefties" would skyrocket the music charts.

That Minie ball hits more like a maxi ball... with balls like that you'd never be afraid of anything!

Being I’m from a country that doesn’t use allominum, can an experienced shotgun shooter, Ie. Danny or the OG, can they tell the weight of projectile or powder load just from shooting?

TY for the our French minié ;)

Well I've had a fair amount of experience with 12 GA slugs and killed a few deer using just a Winchester 2 3/4" 1 OZ Foster slug, but you guys continue to amaze me with what other options exist. Not sure I can handle this much recoil, but this was an impressive load to say the least. Might have to try the FURY JACKETED or the 69 Mniie Ball. Do you guys reload these yourselves? If so what crimp roll device are you using?

WHOA 🔥🔥🔥

Cool.

I'm guessing this video is less than 10 minutes because YT will just demonetize it anyway....

Hi y'all

hello guys, i'm french, and in our country weapons are reaaaally hard to have. i Have a Winchester Mod 101 12ga. Full chocked, i can shot slug with Full chock and a smooth barrel ?

Can't wait to see the future video testing these slugs! Looks great guys! One helluva kick though!

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Side x side comparison..69 mini out of shotgun and out of rifled musket.

OH FUQUE..... that's a THUMPER! OG - new shoulder is in the mail for you - OUCH! Ya'll need some young and dumb guy to "test" those shoulder busters. Save the talent for when it's a MUST HAVE.

I was just looking for something to watch lol great timing

HOLLY SHIT WHAT A ROUND ! I was wondering what 69 call miey ball woild do out of a 12ga I think it wold macke a good big game huntin round just one question what was the lenth of the shell?

Be cool to see you shoot the Lyman sabot and just a plain .69 cal round ball through the rifled choke as well

jeff' how's Danny doing? With the test and tune on his bionics!LOL!!

That Bee when the fury hit the vest was like.... "OAW MAAHHHH GEEERRRRDDDHHH!!!!!"

Por favor pode fazer um comparstivo de agrupamento a 50y rifled choke vs cilinder bor

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Man that vest took a whoopin'!

OG, how's the shoulder!? man, that was brutal! can't wait to see a hydrostatic shot with those! I think the ballistic jelly and the hydro shots are my faves!

Ouch! Now, a kind man might drill some rearward angled holes in that tube: "There you go O.G., it's a muzzle brake." : )

I was more worried that a gun part of unknown eBay provenance might go all Elmer Fudd on you. Glad to see that it didn't.

Just a thought, in the past you made tracer attempts with vape juice dabbed on the slug I assume. Try doing another fluid round with vape juice instead of water or oobleck. May actually function like a smoke screen or something stupid, who knows. 👍

Wow. Also, if you watch a bunch of pistol/rifle ballistics tests and then watch shotgun slug ballistics tests, there is a big difference.

How tightly does the sabot cup engage the Mini ball round? I'm curious if, as the cup/projo begin to enter the rifled choke, the cup would almost instantly begin to spin whereas the enclosed Mini could "slip" inside the cup before coming up to speed for full rotational performance? With that theory, the lead projo wouldn't have full benefit of the 1 in whatever twist rate as opposed to firing out of a fully rifled barrel, wouldn't you agree?

IIRC, Minie balls were designed to be used in rifled muzzle-loaded arms. The arse end of the projectile should be hollow, and the intense pressure of the powder and whatnot inside that cavity forces the grooved portion of the projectile to expand outwards. That allows you to put the undersized projectile down the barrel easily enough for muzzleloading, but also allows the projectile to engage the rifling when fired. TL;DR y'all should try the Minie balls again without the shot cup or a gas seal or anything and see if it works right :D

I can't help but wonder how does the muzzle velocity out of a shotgun compares to the muzzle velocity out of a rifled muzzle-loader? Damage to ballistic gel block certainly gives a graphic representation of what Union and Confederate forces had to face!

Those mini balls😳. I think I know what I'm running in my box fed semi auto shot gun...jk I'm sure those loads would damage my Turkish shotie .