@@jerrywelch1370 agree, Sierra TGK for me too. The Bergers are made to fragment after about 4” of penetration, so any shot into heavy muscle or bone might not work too well, or just destroy a lot of good meat at the least.
I say the Sierra TGK. I've reloaded my 243 with Sierra most of my life and would choose this round over the rest. Best grouping is always more useful than just the heavier bullet. 9 gr is not enough to make a huge difference. Bullet placement will always bring home the trophy.
The Sierra looks like money to me. 100gr is plenty sufficient for deer. Sierra is my personal favorite. Bullet performance as well as accuracy, can't go wrong. Probably 98% of my handloading is with Sierra Gameking.
@@WHOTEEWHO I would definitely go Sierra TGK or with the GMX. If the toughness of the bullet matters, those 19gr the Berger has more than the GMX, will be lost within an inch or two of penetration. The GMX being monolithic will keep its weight right through, which is why it's one of the most popular among South African and Namibian PH's. But if you're just looking at deer, I'd say from the Winners Pile (plus the GMX) - whichever is the cheapest of the bunch will work just as well as the most expensive and no one will be able to tell the difference.
Target bullets are designed for target shooting. Hunting bullets are designed for shooting animals with inflicting terminal damage. I believe that the Berger or Sig would be the proper choice to take hunting.
You should try a penetration and expansion test with the top 3 ammo's. As you already know that not all accurate bullets expand well for hunting! Gallon jugs of water is the most aggravating but cheap and effective!
Agreed. Sending a target/Match grade boolot through the heart of a whitetail wouldn't be nearly as effective as it would be if it were shot by a round with hunting in the name, and a different style tip.
yeah, a heavy bullet means nothing if it either passes right through the animal without dumping its energy or blows up on a bone. Match bullets are good for varmints, not for medium game.
I would absolutely go with the Sierra Gamechangers. I run them out of my Winchester Model 70 Carbine in 243 and they shoot and perform fantastic. They hit deer like lightning, that's for sure!
You are making some impressive video's. Suggestion for a future video. Get 5 or 6 different rifles same caliber and a number of types of ammo like you have in this video. The idea behind this idea is to prove that what might be junk ammo in 1 rifle may not be in another. Thanks for all the amazing video's
ELD-X is what I would hunt with. ELD - extremely low drag, X - expanding. They have great, consistent, expansion at any distance. Designed to be a accurate hunting cartridge. I have faith in them! The SST is really good also.
I bought that rifle because of this video! Looks like the Berger or Sierra for sure. I held an MOA with the Hornady in a five shot group. I just got 100 rounds of new brass and a few different types of bullets. I'll be making up some ladder loads soon. I'm pretty sure I can match or beat any factory ammo. Thanks for making me buy another bing bang!!!
Time to take the boy to the range with them three best ammo groupers and see how they perform with him behind the trigger, just to see if he will agree with you👍
I would say that the Sierra Gameking is the winner but the Berger's are a veryyyyy close second. I have a Savage mod 12 LRPV in 223 rem and it really likes the 69gr Sierra Match King and I am looking forward to giving some Berger's a ride in it. Thanks for the great video.
I liked the sig rounds in 30-06. Bullets seemed to open up nice and decent penetration. Never recovered one on the 2 deer I shot with it. But they piled up where they stood.
Go with the Core Lokt so that if they miss they can blame it on the ammo. 😋 Seriously, I would go with either Sig or Sierra on deer sized game. Bigger than that I'd want an ABLR, Partition or TTSX handload.
I am a berger freak. I use the classic hunter or the VLD hunters and they are wonderful. I also use the Sierra game kings in my 243, they shoot great and work really well.
Wow what’s up buddy ! My favorite caliber ! You got yourself a real dilemma ,But rest assured either one of those bullets will crush even the biggest whitetail. I know I shoot a bunch of both . It’s pretty bad bad when it comes down to price and what’s available because some of the factory stuff is pretty nice . Great test and good shooting .
I would play with the Hornaday Gmx a little more. I like hyper shock "speed" and I believe that they will penetrate as far if not farther than any of them because of the construction of the bullet. Generally 90 or 95% weight retention.
I was rooting for the GMX too, that 90 gr has got to be screaming, and the copper will probably penetrate more than the heavier slugs. Remember, the long heavies are made to expand at very long range, whereas most deer are taken at 100 yds or under, I’d say the vast majority under 150 yds. The Barnes/GMX alloy bullets will survive the high velocity impact better than anything not bonded.
My dad has always been a big fan of Remington bullets and he used them religiously in his Enfield .303 he had, which he has since passed on to me. That having been said, my 6.5 Creedmoor, which is a Bergara B14 Ridge, fires best with Federal Fusion ammunition. Not exactly the most expensive out there. It’s like Eastwood says, “Every gun sings its own tune.” I’m sure that Core Lokt works perfectly fine in a lot of weapons. It definitely shoots beautifully through my .303. Those groups were awesome btw. I would like to see you hunt with those Sig cartridges myself. I’ve never seen how they actually function but I’ve heard good things. Thanks for an awesome video
Not sure I understand the logic behind putting the eldx in the good pile and the better performing gmx in the bad pile? I know, you’re doing on the fly, it’s no big deal. 😜 Thanks for what you do!
I have 2 predators and 1 Ruger precision rifle chambered in 6mm Creedmoor. I shoot the 108 grain eld match ammo in all 3. For some reason I don't see much 6mm Creedmoor ammo in the stores. 1 store has 1 box of that Sierra stuff for $50. It has sat there since the store started selling guns and ammo. It was still there the other day, too pricey for me. The gun shop where I do must of my business has 108 grain eld's for $39 a box, that's why I shoot the 108. I also reload the 108's exclusively for the 6mm Creedmoor and I absolutely love the round. I really need to get them back to the range!
Enjoyed the video. I just got my Leupold mounted to my Ruger American 6mm Creedmoor. Going out Sunday to sight it in. I got the 105g Hornady black to start with.
Hey Hooty A bullet test just like the last one, which I really enjoyed, with as many monolithic, all copper bullets would be greatly appreciated by this Alberta Hunter. Thanks for the great information.
I have this exact same rifle. I handload Hornady 103gr ELDX with H-4350 with great results. Hornady had a large part in the design for this round and are my top pick.
I use the sierras 100g in my .243 in South Carolina for whitetail deer and i have no problem dropping them at 250 yards. These bullets expand really well upon impact and thats what you want for a good hunting round.
My vote is for the Sierra's - that close of a group is not worth the price of those Berger boolots!!!! Also, the Sierra is a proven deer hunting boolot.
I picked up some of that Sig stuff for my 260 Rem. (130 gr.) a while back. Mainly because it was all that was available at the time. To my surprise, it is some of the best shooting factory ammo for that rifle (Savage Apex Hunter)..........so far. Shot just a shade under 3/4 MOA with those. I have to say, I've always been on the fence about picking up a 6mm Creedmoor given I already have a 243 and a 6mm Rem. They are both tack drivers with my reloads in the 70-90 grain range, but open up with 100 grain projectiles. I'm guessing the 1:10 twists have something to do with that. This video has helped me make up mind to start building a 6mm Creedmoor so I can fling those 103gr. ELD-X's at some White Tail or Pronghorn at some longer ranges.
Sierra’s or Burgers you can’t go wrong. However as a match shooter I can say that loads with more recoil/powder will open up groups. Especially when combined with a dead stop gun rest as the barrel will wip more. Sierra and Berger loads do a better job of balancing recoil vs bullet weight. I would use the Remington for short range brush hunting.
Try reloading some 85 grain nosler portions. Use them in my ol 243. Get expansion plus penetration if the kiddos are a little off and hit to much shoulder
So many people use hornady, but I just don't see the appeal. I bought a box of factory berger 140s and shot a .25" group at 100yds out of my tikka upr. Incredible ammo.
I'm curious to see if your seekins rifle would do better with some of those rounds. Also imma save up to get you a dang chronograph for these videos. I need more nerdy details
I had excellent results with 130gr Sierra TGK bullets for reloading in .264. Although I understand you primarily test readily available factory ammo, but I would love to see more Nosler or Barnes as they do produce quality results as well in terms of putting meat in the freezer. I'm now wondering about the 6mm though, this exact rifle is sitting on the shelf @ a store here. wonder if with the right reload it would be good for Caribou
Fancy shooting as always. Hunting whitetail, I'd go with the ELD-X or the tipped Sierra Game King. I rarely take shots past 200 yards and the ELD-X have proven accurate in my CZ. My rifle really likes the ELD Match. Wouldn't be my first choice for deer, but they will work. Anything bigger than whitetail, I'd probably go for the GMX or CX. Should stay together better and give more penetration. Of course, I'd step up to a 7mm-08 or 270 but among the offerings in this video, the GMX would probably have the most penetration. I like the Hornady Whitetail Interlock for a budget 6.5 choice but they don't offer it in 6mm Creed yet.
Which to hunt with? That depends on the bullets, match bullets are not hunting bullets the sierra’s and Bergers if are hunting bullets also the Sigs, I think you need to shoot another round between those 3 groups and research the projectiles
I'd pick the Sierra's and never look back. I'm not sold on Berger bullets in hunting applications. For shooting matches sure. But when it comes to hunting, I was a bullet designed with hunting in mind.
I’m wanting to get one of these 6mm rugers to use for long range targets and deer hunting. I know you hunted with it in one video. Do you think it’s a big enough projectile for Alabama whitetail 200 yards and closer? I know it will drop them. I’m worried about penetration and blood trails. I hunt really thick areas and if they don’t bleed it’s nearly impossible to find them.
It would probably get the best penetration with a good bonded, partition or copper bullet. I hunt the same kind of areas in Fla., same conditions, I want an exit too! I would go with a 90 or 100 gr. Barnes TTSX, 100 gr. Nosler Partition, or 100 gr. Trophy Bonded.
Own this same rifle, put it in a Boyd’s at 1 stock and bedded it. This rifle consistently shoots 95 Berger loads at .75 moa and 80 grain Barnes ttsx loads at .5-.75 moa. All 5 shot groups at 100. Embarrassing part is the factory 87 vmax load from Hornady shoots 1/4-1/2 moa! Makes my loads look like crap. Anyways, 549 for gun, 259 for stock and this rifle shoots better than rifles costing 2-3 times as much. Can’t find a thing I don’t like about it, maybe put a bigger knob on the bolt? I have almost 2500 rounds down the barrel and that is all I would change. One of the best rifles produced in my opinion
me personally i don,t criticize any bullets but sierra is what i judge other bullets by i have loaded them for over 40 years with good accuracy always and good performance on game i have strayed a lot from sierra but i always go back
I would go with the Sierras they are the best hunting bullet. The Berger's are a long range target round they might not preform on game the way they should. Might have to test the 2 on ballistic gel to really see how they perform
Look into sending that barreled action to 300below for cryo treatment. I was skeptical at first, but after top notch customer service and info from the company I understood what cryo treatment was all about and the benefits I was to expect from stainless and 4150 cvm materials, I sent some barrels in and couldn't be happier. Customer for life. Also their satisfaction guarantee is second to none. Then a Timney trigger of course. Happy shootingend that barreled action to 300below for cryo treatment. I was skeptical at first, but after top notch customer service and info from the company I understood what cryo treatment was all about and the benefits I was to expect from stainless and 4150 cvm materials, I sent some barrels in and couldn't be happier. Customer for life. Also their satisfaction guarantee is second to none. Then a Timney trigger of course. Happy shooting
For one of ur next up coming videos u need to do a build. Pick one of ur savage axis, Ruger or anyone u can get a profit barrel preferably a savage so u can do it urself . That would b a good video .
Talke all of these and shoot them again and see what the results are. You had some “Mirage” while shooting these groups and that can cause vertical groups. Good shooting.
That superformance gmx is the best big game bullet buy far and will out penetrate all those other bullets by far! Also being copper it won’t contaminate your meat with lead!
I would say do a runoff between the sierra and Berger and shoot’m again, that would be cool, but I would trend towards Sierra since they have a good track record on the forums
Not to say that the Berger’s won’t work, I have used the 185 gr Hybrid Hunter out of my 300 WSM, but the Sierra Gamekings are a better hunting bullet. Bergers just go into the deer 🦌 and fragment everywhere, not exiting the deer. My Dad has taken multiple deer, mostly does and a couple small bucks with the lead tipped 100 grain Sierra Gamekings. They work great. I like the expansion test video idea.
Gotta go with Sierra, for two reasons; where I am here in Canada they are $20 cheaper and in stock! The Bergers have not been in stock since McDonalds started using "real beef"....... if ya catch my drift :-)
I would love to see the same ammo (the ones you put in the winner circle) shot to compare terminal performance. Trying to figure out what I want to use on deer. I killed 2 this season with Hunter Precision ELD-X 103 gr. which I like. BUT while the 8 pt only ran 40 yds and the big doe never took a step, I was disappointed to have no blood trail and only tiny exit wounds for both. I know this is partially because I went to the high shoulder brachial plexus shot! But I wonder if one of those that you put in the excellent grouping category, would create a better exit wound than the ELD-X 103 gr, or if I should switch to a CX (monolithic bullet) maybe???
Have you had your gun jam with the longer bullets mine James with the hornady precision hunters and hornady superformance 90 grain I have to hold the front of the magazine down or else it jams the tips into the back of the barrel and from what I have researched I’m not the only one with this issue
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