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7 Days Later... Is the 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross a BETTER BUY than RAV4?? (Under $30k!) 

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@CarConfections
@CarConfections 11 месяцев назад
Looking to buy a Toyota Corolla Cross or any vehicle? Go to carconfections.com/new-car-quotes to learn about invoice pricing and get the BEST PRICE on vehicles in your local area!
@ralphorlando8279
@ralphorlando8279 Год назад
Just upgraded from a 2008 Scion XB, which lasted me 16 years to a 2023 Corolla Cross. I bought the budget model that came with plastic hubcaps, no roof-rack and no light signals on the mirrors. However, it has cream colored seats and I threw on some chrome and black Indy rims. Added some chrome trims on the handles and mirrors and I gotta say, it looks twice the price. Elegant ride too. I am not a fan of the Eco and steer assist modes. Where I live, the roads can be chaotic and quick reflexes are a must. Glad I can deactivate them but not totally. Other than that, the ride is really smooth almost like flying over the road on wings. A+.
@hwleitner2009
@hwleitner2009 11 месяцев назад
I rented one in Cape Town- 1.8 l hybrid model with consumption at below 5 l / 100 km even with brisk driving. This is realistically all the car most people really need.
@jeffreyerickson6766
@jeffreyerickson6766 Год назад
I appreciate that you gave some downsides: hard seats, small gas tank, lower mpg. Other reviewers are overly glowing I think .
@vik_red
@vik_red Год назад
I'm glad the review highlighted the issue of having a smaller gasoline tank. Hybrid battery has to go somewhere and it looks like the gas tank was shrunk to give space to a portion of the hybrid battery. Will be an annoyance for sure to some.
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. Год назад
400 mile range is about 15 miles less than the Subaru Crosstrek, main competitor... Crosstrek has a 16.6 gallon tank. I think. Let that sink in, it's the capacity and the efficiency TOGETHER that count, so you just need to comfortable with filling up a bit closer to zero but remembering that you are still MILES from running out of fuel.
@andersriksson100
@andersriksson100 11 месяцев назад
Another downside is the back seats that fold 60/40, that's as cheap as it gets! Why not 40/20/40 or at least a ski hatch in the middle seat. Even some regular non luxary brands had that 20 years ago and they didn't even mentioned it, poor.
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. 11 месяцев назад
@@andersriksson100 again, when trying to keep costs down, something like that is just not needed. It's nice to have, not need to have.
@andersriksson100
@andersriksson100 11 месяцев назад
@@A_A_J. Still poor, why make exuses, it doesn't cost that much more if you plan ahead.
@linnns7104
@linnns7104 9 месяцев назад
I wish they would just make a smaller version of the rav 4, it's too big for me but the corolla cross just seems like a huge step down in everything, not just size.
@kathyrobertson4493
@kathyrobertson4493 11 месяцев назад
Tell us the ground clearance on all models you review, it’s important to a lot of us.
@chrise.cullen1902
@chrise.cullen1902 8 месяцев назад
8 inches
@gregnote771
@gregnote771 8 месяцев назад
I wanted Corolla Cross, but the dealer would not budge on price. So I got Mazda CX5 at 0% financing...no regrets.
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. Год назад
Great review: a couple of corrections/points: 1) Awesome that you pointed out what every other reviewer has missed: you can shift with the gear lever, you don’t need paddle shifters (I prefer using the lever, since I drive stick) 2) The SE *does* have paddle shifters, standard. Only the S comes without them. Really appreciate the sound check and your website with the master list. Would love to know what the 2023 vs 2024 Subaru Crosstrek sounds are, since Subaru has done a lot of marketing on how the new Crosstrek is more quiet.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections Год назад
So glad to hear you're utilizing the website sound level readings! It was quite the task to get them all on there but we finally finished this week 😅 A 2024 Crosstrek review should be coming soon!
@buraqrider2076
@buraqrider2076 Год назад
To person who reading this God bless you and your family ❤
@terrencefoster2848
@terrencefoster2848 Год назад
Proud to be apart of the building of this great vehicle in Madison, Alabama #MazdaToyota
@MrEnky007
@MrEnky007 Год назад
Can you guys install a 2" trailer hitch with a wiring harness on site?
@terrencefoster2848
@terrencefoster2848 Год назад
I'm not a 100% sure with that, just guessing, the dealership may be able too.
@viaPlanetNu
@viaPlanetNu Год назад
How many are you making of all trims of these ? They're so hard to come by
@Personal877
@Personal877 7 месяцев назад
Guys add more insulation for God sake
@davidroth520
@davidroth520 Год назад
Here in CA there are so few Corolla Cross Hybrids available, that dealers are adding about $5000 adjustment and still selling them all quickly.
@walltiger6603
@walltiger6603 Год назад
i have the corolla cross with 2.0 gas engine. i use extreme driving style to get 5.0L/100km, which is 47 MPG.(i think i beat most Cross hybrid drivers lol) i never go over 100km/h, seldom let the engine go over 2500rpm when accelerating and hyper mill when ever possible. so l smile when i see the gas pump, and its a different kind of fun to squeeze for MPG. i fill up around 8-9 gallons which gives me about 375-420 mile range, so i don't feel you need to constantly stop for gas.
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat Год назад
So the none hybrid Cross has the same gas tank size as the hybrid version?
@walltiger6603
@walltiger6603 Год назад
@@HumbleBearcat gas model has 12 gallon with a larege reserve tank and i usally fill up around 3 quarters, so 8-9 gallon.
@namvet1968
@namvet1968 Год назад
You get 47 MPG? Is there any point in buying a hybrid?
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. Год назад
@@namvet1968 If you want to get to a business meeting in a different town without having to shave again once you arrive, you may want to drive above 100 km/h, which is 60 mph ;)
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat Год назад
If you can get 47 MPG in the regular Cross, you can get 60 MPG in the Hybrid model. I assume yours is the FWD version, how is the power?
@sukhvirkhabra7845
@sukhvirkhabra7845 11 месяцев назад
In Canada 🇨🇦 Toyota dealers are ripping people off with unbelievable prices so bad
@SN-hg6bx
@SN-hg6bx 11 месяцев назад
Is why Toyota is wanting to do like Tesla, and hop over the dealer…customer would buy direct and car delivered to the door as ordered online🤷‍♀️
@brianbailey7128
@brianbailey7128 11 месяцев назад
That key fob looks HUGE.
@duckling4393
@duckling4393 10 месяцев назад
$30,000 for a corolla...sigh...back in my days that price bought me a new lexus...I'm getting old.
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 10 месяцев назад
i agree; however, if you do a relative comparison to nearly everything in this class of vehicles, then it's actually par for the course unfortunately.
@pelotonboys66
@pelotonboys66 Месяц назад
The Corolla Cross is easy enough to find in any trim level, but the hybrid is FAR harder to find without having a large search radius
@mrmetmlbpa
@mrmetmlbpa 8 месяцев назад
I love my 2024 xse hybrid
@arunparkash9154
@arunparkash9154 Месяц назад
How the performance and the features bro. I also booked xse hybrid corolla cross black.
@ryanwilliams4561
@ryanwilliams4561 Год назад
“What’s going on, RU-vid?”
@InsighterofTech
@InsighterofTech Год назад
Whaats going onnn, youtube?
@2ndAdvent888
@2ndAdvent888 Год назад
I’m watching you watch!
@SenecaRaine
@SenecaRaine Год назад
Good to know the cargo specs, I was really curious about fitting my bike in there and it seems like it'll work out!
@gerardthai6467
@gerardthai6467 11 месяцев назад
fully optioned, here in Seattle, the build comes to $35,500. For $7K more (I know that sounds like a lot but when you factor in the doable increase in the monthly payment) you can get an almost fully loaded RAV4 that gets just a couple mpg less but a bigger tank equalling a longer driving range. I would also assume that the resale might be a wee higher with the RAV. I drove both and ended up buying a fully optioned RAV4 SXE. This is a Great review!
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! Congrats on your new RAV4!
@scoobydoo316us
@scoobydoo316us 9 месяцев назад
I think people looking here mainly are not wanting to pay the $7000 more or they would be looking at the car you already have. Not sure why your would come here to post about a more expensive car. Bragging or a dealer trying to encourage bigger sale.
@johnnow1
@johnnow1 7 месяцев назад
Then again for a few more $, you could get an NX hybrid which has a higher status label and better service :). Plus the Rav4 is going to be replaced with a newer model soon and the current model will look dated. Enjoy your car. I am just messing with your analogy.
@NoBettaFeta
@NoBettaFeta Год назад
FWIW, I’m seeing 61.8 cubic inches with the seats down when I check volume specs online. Which makes sense, the back seat is smaller than the RAV4, it wouldn’t make sense to get up to the same storage capacity as the larger model.
@moneypenny174
@moneypenny174 Год назад
I like this car- great value and great mileage
@alicea5
@alicea5 10 месяцев назад
Has anyone heard of the engine stalling? There were several reports of this with the 2023 model. I did a test drive recently and the brake was quite stiff. At one point, i did a hard brake and heard a sound as if for a quick second there the brake was stuck. I’m really annoy at the stop and go. I didn’t know it has that feature until it kicks on during test drive.
@CRVgarage
@CRVgarage Год назад
It's missing the signature Toyota dashboard tray. Hopefully Toyota will add it for the next refresh.
@poodmyself
@poodmyself 11 месяцев назад
Just got my black xse hybrid 2 weeks ago had to wait only 3 weeks, they tried selling me on a white one but I told them I wasn’t in a rush even though black color is sought after
@celeschil007
@celeschil007 Год назад
Great car! I just wish that you guys would choose more car trims with non-black seat color to review in your future videos.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections Год назад
We agree. Unfortunately, we don't have any control over what they give us and apparently most people prefer plain black interiors vs lighter colored ones
@fernandoherranz4095
@fernandoherranz4095 Год назад
I actually saw the paddle shifters at 7:12, 7:20, and 7:44. Now that I've used them in my Crosstrek, I search them out in other cars I'm considering for the near future.
@jet89pl
@jet89pl Год назад
how is crosstrek? im thinking of getting one
@lindathomas2407
@lindathomas2407 Год назад
You requested comments re the Hybrid's "unique" styling: I greatly prefer the gas model's styling...the bulbous snout on the hybrid is, IMHO, ugly!
@padib2023
@padib2023 Год назад
You two are amazing! 💯💯💯💯
@CarConfections
@CarConfections Год назад
Thank you so much!
@michaelbrohl1625
@michaelbrohl1625 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand why your mileage was that low. The only thing i can think of is that you did way more highway than city driving. I do mostly city driving and average right around 42mpg. I also am the only person in the car 99% of the time, so there is no extra weight from a passenger. Maybe that has something to do with it ?
@Joe-be3pw
@Joe-be3pw Год назад
I’d take a base rav4 near 30k than a 28k cross. The rav4 is a much better built car.
@mehmetbey79
@mehmetbey79 Год назад
Turkiyede lansmani yapilip Bayilerin bile 2024 de sansinizi deneyin dedigi araba corolla cross Çağrı merkezi çaresiz .. Kimse hiçbirşey bilmiyor Filolar yollarda hemde çok sayida Sari siteler dolu.. yuksek fiyata.. Araç varmi Yok ... Satış politikasi cok kotu bence Toyota turkiye ne yapmaya çalışiyor anlamış değilim Araç yok mu var mi ne yapildiğı belli degil 4 zam gördü bile❤❤❤
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom Год назад
If you can actually find a new one on a Dealer's lot, expect to pay far more than $30K. Oh, especially if you want the hybrid version! Good luck getting one of those! Though not as bad as a Honda HR-V. Currently every single one in America is pre-sold before it reaches Dealers lots. Want something you can find and even be able to haggle? Perhaps getting 5% off MSRP? Go for a Dodge Renegade. Those are easier to find than a crooked politician in NYC. And I've lived in NYC since 1979. Just sayin'....
@tails300
@tails300 Год назад
The wheels on the SE trim are not very attractive, which is a shame because Toyota usually puts really nice looking rims on those models.
@stuartstuart866
@stuartstuart866 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for measuring the cargo area.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 7 месяцев назад
Our pleasure!
@michaelbrohl1625
@michaelbrohl1625 6 месяцев назад
At 37 mpg and a 10.6 gallon tank your range should be well over 300 miles which is average range for most cars. I get about 400 miles per fill up on mine.
@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219
Love the color and I might try to afford one.
@richardl8119
@richardl8119 11 месяцев назад
Try to look for it in New Haven, CT areas but no dealers had it.
@edgarvelasco7130
@edgarvelasco7130 8 месяцев назад
Oxalate smoothie (oxalic acid from raw kale and other greens) on a daily basis - no thanks! Berries smoothie occasionally (except raspberries which are very high in oxalic acid) - yes
@LittlePotatoRoll
@LittlePotatoRoll 11 месяцев назад
The interior if this thing looks like it's straight out of 2012 lol
@robertgreenhalge1708
@robertgreenhalge1708 9 месяцев назад
Fully agree. I had the chance to drive a coworkers last week. Was shocked at how bad it was overall. Fisher Price level interior. Uncomfortable seats. Back up camera quality from 2010. Noisy engine. Rough ride. Horrendous visibility all around. It's Toyota, so it will probably last forever. But I could never put myself through this misery of having to drive this every day.
@davcuts2897
@davcuts2897 Год назад
I really like your channel and have subscribed, but I wonder why out of all your 1,000+ reviews there is not one for MINI. Are there no MINI dealerships in Kentucky to work with?
@CarConfections
@CarConfections Год назад
That's exactly right. The nearest Mini store to us is about 3 hours away in TN and they've never given us a press loan Mini either. Thanks for being a subscriber!
@djferagamo3519
@djferagamo3519 9 месяцев назад
excellent walk through & review
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 9 месяцев назад
Thank you kindly!
@wongralvju
@wongralvju Год назад
Getting quite expensive. Depends on your annual usage, it may take many years to break even with ICE models.
@roberthousehold6223
@roberthousehold6223 11 месяцев назад
if you average 15k miles a year it will take about 3-3.5 years to break even on the hybrid corolla cross vs the ICE model. well worth it considering the average person keeps a car more than twice that amount of time.
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 10 месяцев назад
@@roberthousehold6223agreed, unfortunately, i drive around a little over 15K a year due to the area i live in, so i decided to finally get one of these.
@michaelbrohl1625
@michaelbrohl1625 6 месяцев назад
Hybrid SE, no options necessary. 4 grand cheaper than similarly equiped rav4. That's a big difference to me.
@darkspd31
@darkspd31 9 месяцев назад
when I test drove, I thoght it was LOUD with windows up...bad bad
@stevenkreiss2113
@stevenkreiss2113 Год назад
Excellent review
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 Год назад
That tiny gas tank is a no for me. I need 500 miles before the the refill light comes or I’ll stay with what I’ve got. My Ford Cmax PHEV has great range but no modern ADAS.
@davids5313
@davids5313 Год назад
If a chr and a RAV4 had a baby
@i.h.7268
@i.h.7268 11 месяцев назад
It's like the Subaru Crosstrek
@treads2595
@treads2595 Год назад
Yet another Toyota that you won't be able to get your hands on. 🙄
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Год назад
Well said, forget buying this vehicle and being put on a 1-2 year wait list........
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. Год назад
I just bought one... took a bit of calling around, but be persistent and you can get them. I locked down two and then bought one.
@ofcbob6391
@ofcbob6391 Год назад
@@A_A_J. above msrp?
@beautifulXXdesasterr
@beautifulXXdesasterr Год назад
@@A_A_J.where did you buy it
@A_A_J.
@A_A_J. Год назад
@@ofcbob6391 At MSRP. I could have had one at $3000 above MSRP (ridiculous!), another at MSRP but they undervalued my trade, and a third at MSRP and they gave me a fair trade in value. But I had to drive two hours (Washington State) to get it.
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 Год назад
Excellent review as always, love the comment about bloating and Covid lol
@CarConfections
@CarConfections Год назад
Thanks and have a great weekend!
@u33c214yb29
@u33c214yb29 10 месяцев назад
Boot size is not the same, Corolla cross has smaller boot, comparing to rav4 both expanded and retracted back seats. Both are great cars, though CC is just one size smaller than Rav4 in everything.
@darriontunstall3708
@darriontunstall3708 Год назад
It’s nice! I like the blue!
@tedwalker1370
@tedwalker1370 11 месяцев назад
Is it direct injection or port injection? why does it have to have a frowny face grill?
@suj3919
@suj3919 11 месяцев назад
Thanks WOW THAT'S AWESOME 👍✌️👌😇👽🎯♾️💯🙃
@slice1783
@slice1783 Год назад
Is there a way to disable the paddle shifters?
@reyakisakura3971
@reyakisakura3971 10 месяцев назад
Sad that the Corolla cross (non-hybrid) is going for 30k+ at dealers..
@aussiedeplorable8670
@aussiedeplorable8670 6 месяцев назад
Why would you have a black roof and no spare tyre in a country as hot and large as Australia, this is a deal breaker.
@nsiebenmor
@nsiebenmor 4 месяца назад
Yeah a black roof makes no sense. Its just for looks
@SHISUI1185
@SHISUI1185 Год назад
Is the cargo space enough to fit a 55inch tv??
@viaPlanetNu
@viaPlanetNu Год назад
My question too ! But a 65 inch TV 🤔
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat Год назад
Oh, the small gas tank and lack of a spare tire might be a deal breaker for me. I might consider the RAV4 Hybrid or CRV Hybrid (love it but kind of too big).
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 10 месяцев назад
i agree, but admittedly, i've never needed to use any of my spare tires since i've been driving since '95 (**knock on wood).
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat 10 месяцев назад
@@jicalzad it's a peace of mind when you take a long trip.
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 10 месяцев назад
@@HumbleBearcat 100%
@paintfatpurple7394
@paintfatpurple7394 6 месяцев назад
@@jicalzadI have twice in my last car😂
@JuanFlores-il4yv
@JuanFlores-il4yv 2 месяца назад
Miles per galons😮 What is that?
@Venakis1
@Venakis1 11 месяцев назад
Is this a new grill? Every corolla cross I have seen has the grill higher in the front bumper and the badge is inside the grill. Or maybe the non hybrid versions have a different front.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 11 месяцев назад
The hybrids have thos face and the non-hybrids have a different look
@agpawpaw5912
@agpawpaw5912 Год назад
Does seats folds flatter vs rav4?
@Bizcachita
@Bizcachita 9 месяцев назад
They're not flat at all
@xaryuo
@xaryuo 11 месяцев назад
Is the back big enough to sleep in?
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 Год назад
Best in class
@walkingconifer
@walkingconifer 10 месяцев назад
It has Toyota safety sensor 3.0
@Pglarsen
@Pglarsen 9 месяцев назад
I can’t stand the front gaping grills on new cars, looks like The Scream
@vitkrivan9380
@vitkrivan9380 Год назад
Its funny how the lowest spec in Europe is basically the TOP spec in the US. Since you CANT buy a Cross without it being a hybrid and also all have a full digital gauge cluster. Thats literal joke of a cluster you have there.
@Venakis1
@Venakis1 11 месяцев назад
I'm wondering what model is that, the front bumper is quite different from the European models, the grill is lower here and the badge is not in the grill, while in the corolla cross I can find in Europe have the grill higher and the badge is inside the grill. However i find this one more attractive than the regular grill.
@vitkrivan9380
@vitkrivan9380 11 месяцев назад
@@Venakis1 youre right, the grill is slightly different here in EU. I was just surprised that you guys still have regular gauge clusters in the States. On the other hand, the car is a lot more expensive here. Starting at around 32k USD.
@Venakis1
@Venakis1 11 месяцев назад
@@vitkrivan9380 I'm from Greece pal, here for the 2 liter base hybrid Corolla Cross you need 32k€. There is indeed no option for non hybrid version but I think that the hybrid is the best option anyway. From the exterior looks I prefer the american version with the blacked badges and the lower grill, it looks more aggressive than the european model.
@vitkrivan9380
@vitkrivan9380 11 месяцев назад
@@Venakis1 oh, I get it now ;). but you're absolutely right, buying a Toyota without it being hybrid seems pretty pointless. Ive just purchased the new Rav4 hybrid, so Im very much looking forward to delivery.
@dezafinado
@dezafinado 8 месяцев назад
Well... Europeans are wealthier so Toyota sets higher prices for Europe and you get the digital gauge cluster.
@traciebray6196
@traciebray6196 Год назад
Why is the screen constantly flashing? It’s very annoying.
@roberthousehold6223
@roberthousehold6223 11 месяцев назад
i believe it has to with the refresh rate of the camera and the screen. they dont actually do that.
@traciebray6196
@traciebray6196 11 месяцев назад
@@roberthousehold6223 0h good thank you
@jennifergala
@jennifergala Год назад
Such an ugly and cheap interior. I much prefer the Mitchubishi Eclipse Cross.
@imdone1965
@imdone1965 Год назад
That's ugly and cheap also bruh....
@gtzemis1
@gtzemis1 8 месяцев назад
I can’t afford the 3 batteries it will need I’ll just take the gas engine
@RMwalkwithJesus
@RMwalkwithJesus 10 месяцев назад
Do not buy this thing. The 2022 had major CVT issues. The cam driven vacuum pump sound makes the engine sound like it has a lifter problem. This vehicle does not match up to the reliability the Toyota name has had in the past.
@jeet-Seattle
@jeet-Seattle 10 месяцев назад
I still like RAV4
@umbrawitchx1943
@umbrawitchx1943 Год назад
Gosh that 0-60 purrr is just bleh…. 😩 I wasn’t satisfied
@HarperPolo
@HarperPolo Год назад
No because people's crosses cut off in the rain
@Central-Scrutinizer
@Central-Scrutinizer 10 месяцев назад
No passenger vehicle is a good value right now, new or used.
@14energy
@14energy 10 месяцев назад
I didnt like it, too loud on higher speeds, consumption nothing amazing and seats just not suitable for a taller person like myself
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Год назад
After hearing about Toyota potential car fires, Toyota is a no no folks.........
@roberthousehold6223
@roberthousehold6223 11 месяцев назад
oh please. name the brands that havent had a potential fire risk or recall because of said risk, its a very very very short list
@johnaquino5055
@johnaquino5055 10 месяцев назад
that's a mazda cx30
@theoldman947
@theoldman947 Год назад
The front looks like a nasty scowl that greets the owner every day. Unpleasant.
@markwhitfield7609
@markwhitfield7609 Год назад
When will you Americans get to metric?
@KillerofGods
@KillerofGods Год назад
Never, imperial works just fine.
@surfingtothestars
@surfingtothestars Год назад
When are Europeans not going to depend on USA (via NATO) for defense 😂
@car24dude
@car24dude Год назад
This is a downgrade or sister version of a RAV4
@mayito8531
@mayito8531 10 месяцев назад
good cars, ugly front outside
@davidhanson3345
@davidhanson3345 Год назад
Too much money. Get a Rav-4 instead.
@ms.b9093
@ms.b9093 10 месяцев назад
WAY TOO MANY COMMERCIALS!! Turning off half way through! 😡 Won’t watch again!
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 10 месяцев назад
We don't have control over that
@mahdimir
@mahdimir 11 месяцев назад
👌🙏🙏🙏
@Hbd2002
@Hbd2002 8 месяцев назад
Car dealers making ugly boring colors
@asylumslaves
@asylumslaves 8 месяцев назад
Toyota interior sucks...
@thebigone6071
@thebigone6071 Год назад
We need a vid about the best Bimmers!!! And if you complaining about the price of a car, you’re probs poor asf and can’t afford a Bimmer anyway! Buy one for me boo boo! Sorry not sorry!!!!
@gumerdominguez4091
@gumerdominguez4091 Год назад
Forgot to mention unbreakable ,,, reliability babe if it was in my list a crossover it ll be in my list
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