@@PCSPounderI just posted “if the smoothie king center is the worst arena in the NBA then the NBA is doing just fine”. I went to a game earlier this year there and enjoyed it.
Notice the interior pics on the Delta Center he used are 7-years-old and before the renovation. Also can't properly pronounce the previous sponsor name. Yet another click-bait RU-vidr who won't properly research their "content".
Dude. The wizard have been downtown for 25 years. ( normally in md. ) And the arena revitalize Chinatown. But it does sound like you’re talking from the side of your neck so🤷🏿♂️
Cap One is actually in a great spot, the metro station is right underneath. all they need to do is renovate the arena and the attached mall. but i agree, dude doesn't know what he's talking about
I'm genuinely confused by his comments like nobody in the DMV agrees...didn't he go to UVA? Has he never been to capital one? Like idk where he's getting this from
Ginger, have you even been close to these arenas/stadiums you critique? Also, do you know that some of these places have done renovations, meaning they won't be leaving for a good while.
It's in a prime location and ownership has spent a ton of money over the past several years to upgrade different areas of the arena, new scoreboards/displays, and a lot of other things. It's also getting more upgrades. I've never heard of anyone complaning about it being a horrible arena.
I live 5 minutes from the Moda Center and worked there. It's not getting demolished, there's no room for a new arena currently, the ownership (Paul Allen's sister) is cheap, and everything the fans interact with is modern. Moda Center will probably be around until at least 2040.
See the other arena out there? The one supposedly with distinct architecture? The forces who were there to protect that building when a Beavers ballpark was proposed there won’t be around when the Blazers decide it’s time for a new arena and a new memorial. That’s your space. And there’s more than a small possibility that they’ll build a bigger version of that exterior, which screams natural light.
I’m one of a group (and not a small group) that are not big fans of the exterior. But there’s no business making that kind of renovation for at least 15 years. The place was built to go 50.
If Salt Lake gets the 2034 Winter Olympics, which is a strong possibility, it’s the perfect opportunity to build a new arena while also prolonging the life of the Delta Center.
I have been to the Moda Center a few times for concerts and the stadium is actually really nice. There’s no natural light in the stadium but it looks really nice on the interior. I could see Portland getting an exterior and interior renovation on the stadium in the coming years. Portland loves the Blazers and the whole state as a whole loves the team. They were Portlands first major league franchise and have a long legacy in the city. I feel if the team tried to relocate it would go as well as the Sonics situation did, it seems sacrilegious to think about. 0% chance the Blazers leave Portland and the city is not as bad as many news channels would have you believe and the area around Portland were the Blazers play is really nice.
I think the only way the Blazers move is if the Portland Government continues to do nothing to even make progress towards fixing the cities problem, and it continues to shrink as a result (basically the Blazers aren't moving out of the area unless the city is literally destroyed).
I don’t understand the hate people have towards Portland. The city is cleaning up from 2020 and there are less boards on shop windows downtown. The place is getting better and honestly would be the perfect place for MLB expansion due to its proximity to the city of Seattle. Portland loves its sports teams even when they are terrible. The Mariners need a rivalry so that they can actually make it to the World Series and with NBA expansion seemingly more of a possibility and Seattle seemingly being one of those go to destinations the old rivalry between the Blazers and the Sonics would reunite and don’t forget about the rivalry between the Timbers and Sounders. Also guess we’re the Timbers stadium is located, down town Portland. Portland is a beautiful city and is not as bad as the news says it is. I can pretty much guarantee you are not from anywhere near the city or the state for that matter because everyone who lives here knows Portland is not that bad. STOP CRAPING ON PORTLAND!!!!
I actually really like the Rose Garden's exterior myself, its one of my favorite things about it. But our jumbotron sucks lol. I hate how tiny it is compared with most these days. That said, it's in perfect fettle, and I just don't see any real reason to do anything to it. Even at 28-29 years old (since opening) its fantastic. It also still has some of the best acoustics in the NBA which has been proven multiple times (when the team is actually good and competent of course). It gets deafening and you don't just hear it but FEEL all the noise. And despite all of that, I would not be surprised if the NBA starts to pressure them to either do a massive "updating" renovation, or to build a new one because they always do that when Arenas reach 30.
DG, you've clearly never been inside Ball Arena in Denver. I've been in a number of NBA arenas (San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, Cleveland, Boston) and this was the best one I've seen and it's actually in fantastic shape. Most overrated: American Airlines Center in Dallas.
I may just be showing my age, but most of the arenas you marked as obsolete seem perfectly fine and servicable to me. And what is the point of having natural light in an arena, where 95% of events would be held in the evening?
AT&T center in San Antonio Texas was built in 2002 it’s past it’s teenage years, same time this arena Brent thru 3 NBA finals, 2003, 2007, and 2014 should be a landmark.
The ice plant at Moda has already died and they aren't replacing it. That's why the junior team doesn't play any games over there anymore. They bought in with Vancouver, Spokane, Boise and Portland to get a rate on buying 4 ice plants at once.
Easier to reconstruct that ice plant than to get a new arena funded. The Winterhawks have some cheap owners now, so I will guess that it’ll become the 4th different time the franchise considers moving (Memorial Coliseum is old and has at least $60 million in deferred maintenance). If the cycles run like they usually do, someone else will buy them and the Winterhawks will have another boom cycle. Eh, it’s normal sports “franchise” when you think about it.
Frost Bank might not be torn down after the Spurs leave. It’s located on a fairgrounds. It’s used for rodeo events for the annual Stock Show and Rodeo. It can continue to be used for the rodeo events after the Spurs leave. Can’t take the fairgrounds with you to the new arena.
@@ethanellis4662 I believe Freeman is used as like a supplementary venue to Frost Bank for the Stock Show and Rodeo (additional space for attractions, expos, exhibits, etc.). Both venues would be needed for the Stock Show and Rodeo to function. Freeman is too outdated for the rodeo events but makes a good supplementary venue.
I live in the DC area and the location is actually fantastic.. Right in the heart of downtown, with multiple subway lines right underneath the arena. I don't see a new arena on the horizon anytime soon. There is plenty of nearby restaurants and attractions nearby that buzz with crazy activity on game or event nights.
During the pandemic Georgetown did play only on campus arena that it's not a bad arena the Capital One center they should have never turned down they us airline center AKA the capcenter
@@dontedrake2316 They tried to build a shopping center on that site and now a hospital was built there. The Cap Centre had its drawbacks too, no public transit and you were forced to pay extra to park.
Dude, what are you talking about? What's wrong with Ball Arena? It's not the best arena, but it's certainly not the worst. It was built in 1999. We were lucky as heck to get it built at the time, because the Nuggets sucked and their ownership was worse at that time.
The Paycom Center actually looks nice to me. The AT&T center is a fucking disaster. It looked awful from the moment it was finished and it was put in an industrial district. The exterior looks like an abandoned warehouse. I drive by that ugly building weekly.
ATT center won’t get demolished. The freeman Coliseum will get demolish and the ATT center now the Frost Bank Arena, will be giving to the rodeo and make it a stockyards area for the city!
I’m surprised Madison Square Garden isn’t mentioned. It’s the oldest arena in the NBA/NHL and it’s an eyesore. As a New Yorker I hope the city forces Dolan to move MSG to Hudson Yards while it’s still vacant.
But MSG is historical though...surely you wouldn't want to end up like Boston who had a historic Boston Garden and replaced it with some generic corporate named arena, do you?
@@JohnSmith-zw8vp 1. Boston Garden was way smaller than TD. It had to be demolished. 2. MSG is it’s own brand just like Yankee Stadium is. I think the Knicks/Rangers would keep the MSG name.
The AT&T Center is not under that name anymore. It was renamed the Frost Bank Center over a year ago. Plus the building had a massive interior renovation a few years ago. The exterior was purposely designed the way it was to blend in with the fairgrounds. It doesn't look like crap. It's different in a good way.
Yeah I was there last summer and coming from growing up going to Key Arena ---home of the Sonics :( -- it is very nice and no reason to demolish it. Also the PNW is over having taxpayers covering the cost so no way that is happening. Even in Seattle they banned that from ever happening again, Portland probably would do the same.
I have been to Denver, and the downtown is very beautiful. When they moved the airport further east, you started to see a building boom in the Downtown back in the mid-90's. The issue with the Denver Nuggets/Colorado Avalanche arena is that it's built in a sports complex near the Denver Broncos football stadium and the former McNichols Sports Arena. If the arena was built in Downtown, it would be an above-average contemporary arena. The reason why NBA wants new arenas because the trend of having either an arena closer to downtown, or a massive redevelopment in the area.
@@EragorEaglorThe issue is sport complexes (like in Philadelphia and East Rutherford, NJ) aren't integrated in the city, and look like a place with a massive parking. Angel stadium in Anaheim is an example where if they redevelop the area with a battery like the Sun Trust park in the Atlanta, it wouldn't look like a large parking lot. Ball arena is technically in Downtown, but redevelopment brings more life in the area. In my hometown of San Francisco, the Mission Bay area going through a massive redevelopment.
Mission Bay used to be totally empty and run down, all deserted buildings. Giants moved in and now you have 1 million + condos and housing all over the place. That’s how development needs to be done. Giants foot the entire bill also not one dime from the city.
@scotttild If you remember the old Embarcadero freeway, demolishing it after the earthquake made a huge difference to that portion of San Francisco. China Basin before the Giants built their now current ballpark was an industrial area. To go back to Mission Bay, when the Warriors built Chase Center, it created more foot traffic in that area, where it made more sense to redevelop the area. There was a time when it was affordable to live in San Francisco. What I notice now are businesses closing in Downtown and tech companies taking their conventions to Las Vegas.
Dude, u don't know what ur talking about. Ball Arena is literally in Downtown Denver. Broncos stadium closer to the suburbs than Ball Arena. There is no "sports complex" between the two. A massive highway separates them. Ball arena is next to the aurora campus next to and intermixed with sky scrapers. It's like a 7 minute walk to 16th st, the heart of downtown. mile high stadium is on the opposite side of I-25. But it's still very close to downtown.
I don’t want the thunder they are cursed I rather wait 3 more years then get the thunder, they are forever ruined by Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon, good thing McClendon ended his life and Bennett has colon cancer, by the way the city of Seattle already owns all the history including the championship and the right to the name “SuperSonics” the history is just shared with Oklahoma until Seattle gets a new team 👍
OKC has relinquished all Sonics history. All they have to do is get the expansion team. Seattle will get plenty of good players in the expansion draft. Meanwhile, taking an entire team a city's gotten used to for the past few years when they're just getting good would be pretty suckish, I know pot meet kettle, but two wrongs don't make a right.
Seattle has been ready. Key Arena (now Climate Pledge, aka, Amazon) is entirely up to date, advanced and on par with current and future NBA requirements, to which even Adam Silver noted after taking a tour of it.
OKC is getting a new arena which will open in 2029, paycom center has been upgraded and I don't believe the city will demolish it when it can be used for large live concerts freeing up dates during the nba season which now the paycom has to black out every thunder home game.
It's also getting more upgrades this summer. Plus there are going to be renovations in the arena bowl to the LED ribbon displays and eventually an upgrade to the scoreboard.
Georgetown plays at Capital One Arena too, although they don't nearly fill it. As for Smoothie King Center, I don't think New Orleans has ever embraced the Hornets or the Pelicans. Maybe if they became the Jazz, and Utah got a more appropriate name? A better product on the floor might also help with attendance. If you want to talk about age, Gainbridge Fieldhouse here in Indianapolis was built in 1999. A recent renovation extended its life. It's actually a tremendous place to see a game. There's also Footprint Center in Phoenix that is quite old. Yes, there was a recent renovation, but how long will that last? The inability to design a proper hockey setup there cost Arizona its NHL franchise. Will someone decide to pony up for a new hockey team to replace the Coyotes? A new arena would be a necessity if so, and that could woo the Suns and Mercury as well.
Salt Lake City is also bidding for a future Winter Olympics, possibly in 2034 or even 2038. Should they win the bid, it seems likely they'll put some funding towards an arena. The Delta Center held a number of Olympic events in 2002, but it seems they may want to upgrade if they host again.
I have watched hockey in that arena. Only about 55% of the seats have unobstructed views of the ice. There were all sorts of things they did to wedge 15,000 or so people in there for figure skating and short track speed skating in 2002. The main hockey arena seats about 10,000. So chances of a new arena with more flexibility are pretty good.
Before it was a ballerina in Denver it was called the Pepsi center way back in the nineties I used to even get to go ice skating with the avalanche was there many years ago; and I guess we'll see what happens with this matter and anything else that happens
Paycom was built to try to attract a hockey team believe it or not. OKC wanted a hockey team mainly cause we never thought we’d be big enough for the NBA. The hornets played 2 seasons in OKC and the NBA fell in love with the city. So when the Thunder came to town the Paycom was still a pretty great arena and just outside the top 10 in a lot of rankings. Nowadays it’s fallen to I’d say the 16-17 range. It’s average. But not terrible.
If you include ball arena, you must include staple center or whatever it is now. They are very similar. The interior of Ball Arena is nicer than the interior of the Los Angeles facility. Ball arena is conveniently located in downtown Denver. It’s a nice facility, you really need to see it in person sometime. It’s conveniently located between Coors Field and the Broncos field. 10 minute walk to Coors Field, 15 minute walk to the Broncos facility. Ball Arena is a nicer facility than Los Angeles lakers. Once the clippers get their new building, the Lakers are going to be clamoring for some thing half as nice.
I disagree about CapitalOne Arena. The arena sits on top of a subway. That's a big plus. The Cap Center does anchor the area. Yes, some renovations in the last few years with bigger concourses and new seats. No one wants an arena in Md. Teams moved from Md to D.C. Ain't going back. I also doubt NoVa.😮
Spurs definitely need to move their arena. They've already said Wembanyama is going to bring so much revenue to a city if his career pans out. San Antonio could use it
Your Capital One Arena take makes no sense. It’s probably in the best location in downtown Washington DC that you could pick. No one wants the DC stadiums in Maryland or Virginia. Just look at how hard everyone is pushing to move the commanders back into DC. Sight lines in Capital One are fantastic. The renovations of a few years ago turned out great (except that jumbo tron I may add). Also the energy during a game in Capital One is always fantastic. Nobody wants this stadium moved. The Capitals and Wizards owner is pulling the northern Virginia project out because he wants the city to take more responsibility for arena upkeep. It’s a leverage move to get the city to pay attention. Despite that I guarantee Ted Leonsis would rather have the team stay downtown.
The Delta Center in Salt Lake City, recently underwent a $200 million interior renovation. The same architectural firm who did the renovation of Madison Square Garden are the ones responsible for the update. The only way I see the Jazz moving out of the Delta Center is a Salt Lake City gets an NHL team that would need to share the arena.
Utah now got the Arizona Coyotes and the Delta Center is going to get some renovations in the lower bowl. There was talk of a new arena but everyone wants to stay in the current location.
All the rumors are that someone else will own the team and another arena will be constructed. Let’s face it, enough casinos have enough money to pull that off.
I live in Portland and it is amazing. I am assuming you have never been there. I have also lived all over the west coast and like Portland the best. If all you watch is Fox News then that is your problem.
So true. Having lived in Portland for 3 years I just laugh at people hating on Portland. Hey house prices are normalizing so I don't mind the bad rep. I love Portland.
There’s actually talk about replacing the Utah arena with something that can also handle hockey for the next available Winter Olympics. That’s almost guaranteed to happen.
@@PCSPounder for the 2002 Olympics both the Delta Center and Maverick Center were able to accommodate full international size ice rinks. That doesn’t really matter for hockey since the IIHF has since then modified their rules to allow Olympic tournaments to be played on North American size rinks (as was the case in Vancouver in 2010.)
@@kurtisokc The width is the lesser issue in (snickers) Vivant aka Delta Center aka that box. Funny how the newer name has maybe 5% recognition, and I apologize for being the 5%. If you’re in the upper level at the ends, you can’t see the goal below you. If you’re in a corner, you’re facing the center with the near goal sometimes obstructed. Heck of a basketball arena, though. FYI… the hockey I saw was the Utah Grizzlies. 2002 Olympic Hockey was played at Maverik (then known as the E Center) and either The Peaks or Seven Peaks in Provo. Kind of curious to know if they’d use another arena or build a new “2nd hockey arena” for the next Olympics.
Pittsburgh is not getting a team, it’s already confirmed Seattle and Vegas will be the next expansion, they both have state of the art arenas unlike Pittsburghs PPG paints arena
@@dreamcage1801 definitely is a possibility I just think Vegas and Seattle have much higher chances and are basically guaranteed to be the next expansion teams
9:45 If Moda Center fails, the Trail Blazers and WNBA Portland Roses should Move to Heritage Bank Center in Cincinnati, Ohio as the Cincinnati Trail-Blazers and Roses
@@manuelgrothe608 ? You’re grammar is horrible I’m not sure what you are trying to say I said Washington as in next to Oregon not Washington DC if I was taking about Dc I would have said so, the Seahawks are a Seattle based team it’s pretty easy to comprehend what I am saying
Heritage Bank Center needs to go, Cincinnati definitely needs a new arena if they want NBA or NHL. They have an awesome riverfront with the Reds, Bengals and the little village in between. Very underrated city.
@@ShshHdj-mi5lm Yeah I grew up in Seattle and now live in Portland. People in Seattle talked casually about moving the Trailblazers to Seattle but no one wanted that nor do that to Portland. Paul and now Judy Allen has no desire to make that happen anyway
