At least we can trust that Outside Xtra, the sister channel, will not get into a serious rivalry with Outside Xbox that gets out of hand like these examples.
For a sequel I suggest No More Heroes. Travis having to fight two siblings was what instantly came to mind for this video. Great video though, excited for a sequel and more like it. Thanks for all you do.
My favourite rivalry is still in R6S with the defender Ela and her sister the attacker Zofia. They are both less affected by the others concussive ability, but they also get bonus "Sister Rivalry" points for killing each other.
At first glance, it may seem that Billy and Jimmy Lee get on well with one another as they team up to rescue Marian, until you finish the game and the brothers start beating the * out of each other to get the girl. (off topic, but she got tired of the two idiots, develops some serious abs so she wouldn't be unconscious after one punch to the stomach and start punching baddies herself)
Baldur’s Gate 3, Orin and Durge. Dark Urge Expectations: A super dark and compelling storyline about Bhaal, Lord of Murder and being his heir. Dark Urge Reality: Fighting with your sister over who daddy loves more. The girl rips a clown to shreds and makes arts and crafts with his innards to present to Father 😂 “Daddy I tore up a clown and painted the city with his blood. DOYOULOVEMEYET??!”
Wait? Solid Snake hated Liquid Snake because Solid got the “weaker, recessive genes?” I’m no expert, but pretty sure that’s not how recessive genes work.
Recessive alleles are often characterised by loss-of-function mutations, iirc. So, in a sense, you could call them "weaker". On the other hand, a loss-of-function mutation can still easily result in an overall positive trait, so it doesn't make that much sense.
I think the point was that the dominant genes were the soldier genes. Also it was more Liquid hated Solid atleast at first due to Big Boss making him feel inferior.
I just realized never, not once in the Pokemon series have they decided to make the rival your actual sibling and I'm actually shocked they haven't yet.
Come to think of it have they had a sibling rivalry among the characters? There's the warring princes from Unova but they were centuries before the game takes place.
My favorite thing about Dante and Vergil's relationship is their final scene together so far. "Where did you learn to count? We're even," is one of Vergil's best quotes in the series because it shows that beneath all of their rivalry and supposed hatred of each other, they have a normal sibling bond deep down, enough to care so much about something as petty as keeping score.
The "wardrobe malfunction" scene with Nina (which you get for beating the game with Anna) is the less drastic one. When you beat the game as Nina, she leaves the filming set and straight up blows it up with C4.
So if I got that right, Anna's pranks include taking naked photos of your sister in the bathroom and strategically cutting away at her clothes in the middle of a set to leave her naked at the end, while Nina's pranks include dressing up as her sister for her wedding to kill her fiance, and literally bomb her sister's entire film set to kill her. Despite the literal nudity, Anna's pranks seem oddly innocent
@@mar_speedman I mean Anna is the reason Steve exist because she sold Nina’s dna to a company that used it to create a bio-weapon, the strongest soldier which failed, creating Steve.
The one thing I love about Dante and Vergil’s relationship is they act oddly civil before they try to kill one another you can see it in DMC3 where Dante casually lays out a party metaphor and the normally serious Vergil just plays along with it. Because of stuff like this, you can see their animosity towards one another, but it also makes their dynamic when they team up totally believable.
It's actually pretty cool. Their rivalry is rooted in a difference in ideology, not in malice. Which is why they occasionally team up and seem to genuinely care for each other.
Always felt like the conflict between those two stems from a failure to communicate/lack of understanding. They are similar enough in many ways. Like how even not in his right mind, Vergil would not backstab Dante or any other foe, despite many chances to do so. Neither of them has a treacherous bone in their body. Mischivieous? Yes. Reckless? All of them. But they don't seem like a pair of brothers that hate each other. More like a pair of brothers that can't understand why the other doesn't see things *their* way.
@@thundercookie3214 I would argue that Vergil does possess a few treacherous bones. Note the stunts he pulled in DMC 3 and 5, along with who knows what else in order to get to those points. Besides that, I do agree with you.
@@thundercookie3214 Just so. Dante and Vergil never truly knew how to communicate outside of fighting each other. They had fought each other for so long, that they never once considered reconciling their issues in a different manner, and nothing was changing because of it. This is why Nero had to intervene at the climax of DMC5, it wasn't going to end well otherwise, if even at all.
@@taxsylrc1598 The only time Vergil betrayed anyone in DMC3 was Arkham, and that was only because Vergil suspected that Arkham was going to double-cross him, which in fact Arkham eventually did. Otherwise, Vergil was very honest about his intentions. Vergil never intentionally harmed innocents, but that didn't mean he cared for their safety. He was indifferent to rather they lived or died. It was either a means to an end, people being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or anyone foolish enough to attack him. Vergil is very flat-line.
I genuinely believe that in the Sparda household, stabbing each other with a sword is the equivalent to anything from "Hey, how's your day been?" to "Get your filthy paws off of my pizza slice!"
Honestly surprised Andy didn't insist on Proetus and Acrisius from Red Dead Redemption 2. You know, the twin brothers fighting over the affections of a lady? That escalates into both brothers dying in a dare which for once isn't directly the player's fault?
In the original Paper Mario, you can read Luigi's Diary and see his descent into Mr. L. Well, basically, with the benefit of hindsight, you can see what those diaries were describing can lead to Mr. L
Also, in terms of physical capabilities, Luigi is actually way better than Mario. The difference is Mario has all of the confidence and Luigi has like, none.
Whenever my sister remarks on how I locked her in the shoe cupboard when we were little, I'll show her this video. And then consider finding another shoe cupboard :P
@@DavidCowie2022 Are we sure? Like Solid (David) and Liquid (Eli), Johnny has a Biblical name, and he ended up marrying Meryl, who was Solid Snake's love interest in MGS. Obviously, Johnny is the secret protagonist of the series.
I'm reminded of the Awkward Zombie comic where it has Sniper Wolf ask Revolver Ocelot A) whether that makes sense, and B) if Liquid had the dominant genes, how is he blonde?
The final boss of DMC5 is actually Nero fighting Vergil and then Vergil does a heel-face turn and ends up battling demons in the underworld alongside his brother, so it’s not such a bad end to their relationship after all
yeah the culmination there is more about nero confronting his father while keeping vergil and dante from finally killing each other. but they sure did intend to finally kill each other for a bit there.
@@CinderFallenAngel Subhuman actually grew on me after a while. It's probably because I found an awesome cover version that, to me, sounds way more like a DMC song than the original. :)
@@thundercookie3214 Please link that cover, because as it stands, I'm struggling to listen to Subhuman and absolutely swapped it out for another song.
In the Dead or Alive series of fighting games, there's Kasumi and Ayane. When Kasumi left their village because her brother Hayate was injured, Ayane was given the task to kill Kasumi, something she was more than willing to do. While Kasumi and Ayane shared the same mother, they had different fathers. Ayane's father raped her mother and while Kasumi was admired by the rest of the village, Ayane was treated like a outcast, something she resented her sister for. Being given the order to kill Kasumi was a chance for Ayane to take out her frustration with her sister.
And moreover, it took until *the fifth entry* before the two of them seemed like maybe they'd finally not hate each other, and the sixth to confirm that the bad blood between them is gone.
THANK YOU! I'm glad I'm not the only one who expected to see this on the list. The DOA series never gets any love. It's a shame, it's freaking awesome.
Suggestion for a commentor's edition: Misty and Morgan Fey in the Ace Attorney Trilogy. It says a lot about the Fey clan's tendency towards messy rivalries that Mia left to avoid having to be pitted against her sister.
Surprised Basch and Gabranth from Final Fantasy 12 didn't make the list. Gabranth frames Basch for the murder of a king(and Vaan's brother) that results in an entire country being overthrown by the main antagonists and Basch being locked up until freed by your party.
Andy's comments were great in this episode lmao "Leaving him with something of a chip on his shoulder. That's a fry on his shoulder, for our American viewers" 😂 And the frog comment at the end referring to his grandfather 🤣 that got me
What about tf2? Redmond and Bluetarch have all of you mercenaries fighting over GRAVEL. and in one of the maps the goal is to send the other of the brothers to HELL
I can't believe they included Mario and Luigi, as if they measure up to some of the other entries which _start international wars,_ and forgot the Manns
Kinda like when my comments was in a most amazing top 10 video unfortunately I can’t remember which video but I remember my comment was about Annabelle
Some corrections for the Devil May Cry entry: Dante and Vergil weren't separated until they were 8 years old - Vergil lost his faith in humanity when he thought his mother left him behind. The final boss fight of DMC5 is between Vergil and his son Nero.
Quick correction: Dimentio is the one who brainwashes Luigi in Super Paper Mario, not Count Bleck. I'm going to assume that was just a script error that wasn't caught because the correct clip of Dementio doing the brainwashing was used in the video
Yeah, there seems to be quite a few of such errors this time. The most glaring one is calling Mother 3 a SNES game, when it was released in 2006 for GBA.
The main antagonist in the original Baldur's Gate. Although I wouldn't call it a "rivalry", he was actively trying to kill you, because of the whole Bhaalspawn thing.
Liquid and Snake also had a brother known as Solidus, who didn't get involved in the rivalry and went on to become President of the United States. So, if there's anything to take away from that affair, it's to focus on you can do than compare yourself to your siblings.
I think that Luigi preferred the quiet, predictable life of a tradesman. While Mario jumped into the adventure head-first, Luigi just wanted to stick to the mundane lifestyle he was used to.
The ending fight between Lucas and Claus is the best example of showing two people lose the will to fight each other in gaming. All without sprite animations.
I can't believe they overlooked the Aeducan siblings in Dragon Age: Origins. Bhelen actually managed to kill Trian and exiled the PC to the deep roads to be killed by Darkspawn, all in an attempt to to take the throne which throws the Orzammar courts into chaos which requires the warden (possibly the exiled brother) to hunt down the last living Paragon to solve the issue.
Ah yes...the twisted Royal Courts. Also considering that if you are not playing as the dwarf Noble, that sibling does get eaten because the Warden happens to be wherever the PC is so thus no rescue for the exile.
@@mar_speedman No, every Origin character you play as ends up dead if you don't pick them. The reason for each of their survival is Duncan's presence in your story. Obviously, if you don't pick a certain Origin story, he never shows up, so that character is doomed.
I'm not sure 100% but Dark Urge is the pure spawn of Bhaal while Sarevok and Orin had human mothers. Though I think Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 character and Sarevok are siblings to some degree.
No video game list of sibling rivalries gone horribly wrong is complete without Gouken and Gouki (IE, Akuma) from Street Fighter. Trained under the same master, Akuma's obsessive need to be the greatest master of their style led him to kill Gouken (who didn't even care about their master's style any more by that point) in a fight to the death (except not really, it would eventually turn out) and then spent the next few decades trying to vicariously prove how much better he was than Gouken by trying to mold Gouken's greatest student into someone more like himself (with diminishing returns). The funniest thing about this is, Akuma does actually have something resembling a moral code (if a twisted one), it's just that his obsession with besting his brother is so great that it always just goes out the window whenever Gouken and Ryu are involved.
How about Wrex and Wreav from Mass Effect? If Wrex survives into ME3 Wreav ends up getting eaten by the mother of all Thresher Maws, and Wrex is like "meh, he'd only slow us down."
Not to mention Vergil ripped his own son's arm off, tore himself in two, all to try and get one up on Dante. The Legendary Dark Knight DLC did have more positive ending, not sure if it's cannon though.
My first thought was Jeanette and Therese Voerman from Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, who are kind of sisters if you don't think too hard about it.
The Emperor of Jade Empire didn't get along with his brothers either, in Batman Arkham City there were twins that just didn't want to stay together lol 🤪
I should mention the “healthy” brotherhood between Ragna “The Bloodedge” and Jin Kisaragi from the fighting franchise, BlazBlu Everytime the serious Jin meets with his “Niii-san” become a little psycho and, with a akward sexual tone of voice, tries to kill Ragna (who feels a little unconfortable with the situation… xD).
Honourable mention to Gouken and Akuma from Street Fighter. I tussled with my brother plenty but neither of us gave the other cause to fake their own death by emptying their soul in the split second before being struck nine million times. Mostly we’d just act more hurt than we really were so the other one got in trouble
Hm...not sure it's considered sibling rivalry, but Cloud and Sephiroth definitely be fighting in every Final Fantasy they happen to meet in. Also clashing blades in Kingdom Hearts 2. According to FF lore they share cells from Jenova, even claiming that in FF 7 Disc 2 it is explained that Cloud is a failed clone of Sephiroth. However, I am not sure this would count them as being brothers per say. To be Honest, I don't really understand or follow FF lore, I just remember someone trying to explain it to me lol.
No mention of Kratos vs. Hercules in GoW 3? They may only be half brothers, but Kratos took the age-old "quit hitting yourself" up a level when he stole Hercules' Nemean Cestus and pummeled his face in.
@@tubensalat1453 Unmodded works fine enough, it's just that I play it on the PC. Anywho, perhaps the PS3 version already has fixes as the years went by. By I do admit that V: TMB is only better off with the Unofficial Patch(es), especially on the GOG side.
Just to be clear, mister X is a clone of the Boss. I was going to say he was an evil clone, but given all the depraved monstrous shit the Boss does, i guess that's not totally true.
@@wonderman7166 It's funny that, at a first glance, Anna might seem like just a psychopath, but then you realize she just lost her mind over time and her sister is the actual psycho.
What about the Dragon Age games? In Origins, if you choose the dwarf noble beginning, your younger brother eithers kills the eldest brother and pins the murder on you or, alternately, manipulates you into killing the eldest brother. Either way, you end up exiled. You do get a chance at revenge later in the game if you ally yourself with the brother's rival to the throne. In Dragon Age II, companion Varric's oldest brother will attempt to bury him and the player character alive in the Deep Roads. Varric has the opportunity to kill the brother later to get his revenge. To sum it up: In Dragon Age, there isn't much brotherly love among the dwarves.
@@Andreas_42 Good points, though while the sibling does cause Alastair a lot of headaches, they never really have any kind of relationship. The sister is a real piece of work though.
@@FredCDobbs-rd5wi But, then again, she isn't really his sister after all. So there's just his brother and we all know that they never had a relationship.
8:41 - clearly Mario only ever rescues Luigi because he knows he’ll get an earful from Mama Mia Mario if he doesn’t; after all, Luigi is obviously their parents’ favourite as they bothered to actually give him a name - for Mario they just went “ah just recycle our surname”. 😜
If it turns out there's an older Mario brother, I won't be surprised because that sounds like the ultimate middle child treatment, not even getting an actual name and just reusing the surname. Might explain the constant need to be better than Luigi and getting mad if he wins. There's a much more successful Mario bro out there somewhere
Luigi was the baby the Mario parents wanted to have happened. Mario was an accident that forced them to get married sooner than they were planning to. Mario will never forgive Luigi for getting Mama Mario and Papa Mario's love.
In many ways, my relationship with my brother is just as tragic as any of the sibling relationships portrayed in this video.... He won't watch Outside Xbox videos with me
I'm convinced that Snake and Loquid are actually cloned from entirely different people. Without spoilers, Liquid is cloned from Big Boss, and Solid is cloned from Big Boss, teo entirely different guys. The ones who did the cloning probably had dna samples from both but couldn't be sure which was "superior" so they made Solidus a clone of both, and the other two more purely from either of their "parents".
3:50 I think the Implication is that Anna cut all the straps and stuff holding Nina's armor on. 7:15 The interesting bit about that is, in their dreams (read: Super Mario Bros 2), Luigi's gimmick is that he jumps WAY higher than Mario. 18:00 Can you not have the Franklin Badge for that final dramatic moment? I know in Earthbound you could give the Franklin Badge to any party member, or you could put it into storage. Is it possible to do that in 3?
Hard to judge anything from the US Super Mario Bros game due to it being a reskin of a completely different game. Since it was a Mario game they had to make the first character on rhe select screen Mario and I'm not sure how they decided who would be the other characters.
Funny my sister was just visiting this weekend. Now that I think about it, she didn't once make fun of how I talk. Either she's finally growing up at age 42 or I should worry.
I was there with you until the spolier rundown. It's hard to name one that doesn't have siblings who try to beat up or kill each other... Soul Caliber maybe? I don't know a lot about SC but no pairs spring to mind there.
Haven't even gotten into the list yet, but the clips at the start imply that the Lutece's are siblings. Spoilers, but weren't they really just alternate reality versions of each other pretending to be siblings? Thats the kind of hidden detail that would make a good point on a list...
You NEED to do a Part 2 of this! There's an incredible sibling rivalry you overlooked! Blue and Rouge from the original SaGa Frontier for PS1. They are literally twins who are forced to fight and destroy each other so that the victor can attain his full magical potential. Blue's resentment towards his brother runs so deep that in one scenario, where you play as another main character named Red, Blue refuses to join the party simply because Red's name reminds him too much of his brother, Rouge.
One Sibling rivalry that comes to my mind is Ela and Zofia from Rainbow Six Siege. If you play Ela and someone else picks Zofia, you will literally get bonus point for killing the other.
Would Galen Marek (aka Starkiller) and Luke Skywalker from Star Wars: the Force Unleashed ultimate sith edition count? After all, Luke is Vader's biological son and Galen is more or less Vader's adopted son.
Gimmie a J... Gimmie an A Gimmie an n-e (yay!) Go! team Oxbox, Go! team Oxbox, go, go, go!!! (wooo!) Sorry, its that Jane looks exactly like the cheerleaders at my old high school
Um, actually, the final confrontation with Liquid Snake involved him using Metal Gear REX first, and THEN the shirtless fist fight atop the burning wreckage, followed by a car chase through the tunnels culminating in the crash outside where Liquid finally keels over from FOXDIE
Brucie and Mori do indeed deserve each other -- alpha males my butt. And frankly, it seems like if family members AREN'T trying to constantly kill each other in the Tekken series, THAT is what stands out. XD
Thank you for being conscious of those of us who speak American English. It's an example of your writing being quite chip, or "crisp," as you might say.
Honestly Selune and Shar's rivalry is really messed up, considering the the whole of act 2 involves possibly killing the ones child, corrupting an entire land, and the abuse suffered by Shadowheart.
