People always give sheep a bad reputation, following each other, mindlessly eating grass..They Never talk about the fact that All sheep are cult leaders.
ig this list is more about a game that kills you at the beginning but after you take control of the character, but to me there's only game that starts with you dying that matters, and its a real kick in the head 🤠
Can I just say, I wish MediEvil was on this list? Not only are you dead at the start, you've been accidentally resurrected as a one eyed, jawless skeleton man that talks like the adults in Peanuts that has to save the world from a necromancer all by his boney self. Sir Daniel Fortesque, the guy who was mistaken to be the hero who defeated the necromancer the first time, when in actuality he died when the first arrow fired went right through his eye.
Any The Dark Pictures game. The prologue characters never survive. Apart from House of Ashes where one of them (depending on your choices who) gets preserved by alien goo in a horrific undead way & the main characters can put them out of their misery later in the game
Manual Samuel fits the bill. Samuel dies at the beginning of the game and is able to get back into his body, which the player has to control manually (including breathing).
I heard "died and then brought back to life" and immediately thought of Cult of the Lamb. I mean, you literally start the game being forced to walk to your own execution, before making a deal with an estranged God and being brought back to life. I was a little sad to not see it on this list... :(
Can I just say, Ghost Trick had a good twist to the whole "Who am I?" question. Hell, the entire game is a good twist, I genuinely recommend people play it. It can be annoying at times, but the story is worth it.
i always end up getting a little frustrated when i try to explain that people need to play Ghost Trick; it's amazing in a way that you just have to experience for yourself, even if that means getting a little stuck on a few obtuse puzzles along the way
Actually, you can find a randomly generated relative or acquaintance of his ingame, as in one playthrough I had his boyfriend as part of my DedSec collective, yet in another I had his personal “lady of the night” join up instead.
I remember encountering a glitch where i got dalton as a full party member... with what sounding like a text to speech voice. It was really fucking weird lol.
I agree with Ellen, there should be more Welsh accents in games! Also I can't remember the previous version of this list, but I'm going to assume we covered Final Fantasy XII and The World Ends With You already.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 British and English are separate things. English would be Englandonly, but Britain/British efers to England, Wales and Scotland. These three together make up 'Great Britain'. For added confusion, UK (United Kingdom) consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It's all very needlessly complicated lol.
So glad to have you back in the person. I can watch most of your videos, but I am hearing impaired. It helps me to see someone react beyond the bad subtitles I get. Ellen is the absolute fucking boss for HoH people. She's so expressive that even if I didn't have inputs I would get what she is saying. Her geeky expressiveness is actually an awesome thing to her disabled fans. I can just watch an Outside Xtra video, with no inputs, and just watching her face, reactions, and emotions pretty much tells me all I need to know. She's got got a fucking gift for that.
I'm from Northern Ireland and for Assassin's Creed 3 & 4 they had a NI actor do lines for the guards, it was so funny hearing such a specific local accent while I was hiding in hay bales lol
I've just started playing the latest Dark Pictures Anthology game, The Devil in Me, which kicks off with you controlling a newlywed couple booking in to the soon-to-be-infamous "Murder Hotel". Hey, guess what happens! Interestingly, one of the in-game menus seems to suggest they could get killed in different ways depending on what you do. For the record, in my playthrough Marie got slashed with a razor while in the bath, Jeff got caught in a gas room and suffocated, and Marie saw this happen while she was bleeding to death. Then I got a trophy for it. Video games!
Context about the driving test joke for my fellow Americans: British driving tests are notoriously difficult. Passing after 5 attempts is not uncommon.
This was hardly an invitation to crap on US driver safety. US and UK driving present very different challenges, not the least of which is number of cars on the road.
I know it’s not part of this list but I just started Kingdoms of Amalur the other day because of Ellen’s praise for the game and I gotta say it’s really good. Also even though the character doesn’t actually die at the beginning of the game, they start off dead. Not sure if there’s already a list of games where the character starts off dead but Amalur could definitely be on that one.
It’s not as iconic a game as others, but the intro for Battlefield One stood out to me for being more than a standard scripted death sequence. It gives a unique view on the effects of war.
It's not technically "the start of the game" anymore because of a new tutorial and the option to do quests in any order, but the main quest of Elder Scrolls Online definitely counts. You are captured by the Black Worm Cult, sacrificed by Mannimarco, who rips out your soul for Molag Bal, and wake up in the Oblivion realm of Coldharbour as a Soul-Shriven prisoner. Soul-shriven are basically zombies, pale imitations of the people whose souls have been stolen by Molag Bal, and made out of Chaotic Creatia and a Vesitge, the same stuff as Daedra that let them reform, so Molag Bal can torture and kill them repeatedly. But you have an extra Anuic aspect (lore speak for "being a protagonist") so your new body is a perfect recreation, and your mind is fully intact. So basically all Mannimarco and Molag Bal did was give you a new body that can't be permanently killed.
I am SO glad to see Ghost Trick on here! XD Like they say, you LITERALLY start the game dead as a door nail in a super undignified position, and Ray is SO effing sassy with you. It's great. XD But the more you play, the better it gets! It's SO good! (Except for helping Jowd escape from prison. Absolute nightmare fuel that scene. XD)
One of my favourite things about Xenoblade 2 are the variety of accents and how they're all consistent depending on where they're from. The Gormottis have Welsh accents, Urayans have Australian accents and Ardainians have Scottish accents, to give a few examples.
And then of course, the Americans... well, it's a bit of a spoiler to say what that category is. I got spoiled by it, it was the only thing I didn't manage to avoid.
Lol, I first played the game with the English dub, and after completing it i tried watching some of the cutscenes with the Japanese dub, and...well... Lets just say Nia is a million times better with the Welsh accent the the high pitched anime one...
Murdered soul suspect has the main character literally fall to their death in the opening and goes through all the stages of grief in quips once you gain control again
@@kjm4721Think it was if I remember right. The box for it literally spoils that you die before you even get to get your head round what’s going on. But it’s still a surprise how quick you’re ground meat
FFXII should absolutely be on this list. U start off playing as Reks, a young knight who is fighting for both his country & his younger brother Vaan. However, not long into the game he is killed & u get stick playing as his younger brother Vaan
@JN-so6wt He gets kind of better at a little over halfway to the last 3rd of the game but at that point since it's a FF game you've spend probably 40+ hours listening to him whining & saying how much he wants to be a pirate
Hilariously enough, ‘the Protagonist dying early on’ is a running joke in the Xenoblade series. 2 is just the only one where it occurs during the game itself. Spoilers below! In Xenoblade Chronicles, Shulk was killed as a child, and his body was possessed by local evil deity Zanza. In Xenoblade Chronicles X, Cross’ Mimeosome (Remote controlled robot body) was awoken after the servers holding his mind shut down. This is also implied to be the reason for his amnesia. In Xenoblade Chronicles 3, every member of Agnus and Keves (the two warring nations that control most of Aionios), including your entire party, have been constantly killed and brought back to life for however long Aionios has existed (which is at least 1500 years)
Pillars of Eternity II comes to mind. You went through the entire first game with your life (mostly) in tact only to start the second and immediately get bodied in the opening cut scene by the giant statue that was lurking beneath your home. You're only able to actually go on heroing because the goddess of death decides that you're kind of useful.
@@waterinmyotter6245 Huh. That's interesting. Maybe it's because the character never actually dies? I never actually played the game, so I don't remember, but I think it was more of a near death experience rather than actually dying and coming back to life Unlike with Mass Effect, where you die and get rebuilt from the ground up
@@jaycee8433 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fox News. The conspiracies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Christian nationalism most of the dog whistles will go over a typical viewer's head.
@@jaycee8433 I'm not being hard on Andy. I'm in the Netherlands. From the outside looking in, watching (and tolerating) Fox News for any length of time is an exercise in suspension of disbelief. To be fair, I haven't really bothered since Tucker Carlson got fired, but _boy_ was that man hard to watch with any amount of critical thinking still engaged.
@@guuspot923 Please don't use the term critical thinking when you don't actually practice it. People pretending to be able to participate intellectual discourse is already a pain in a** as it is - they haven't even begun to read through the rules of logic, and most importantly, any list of logical fallacies (of which they are guilty of many).
Lol...fox "news" is really gross. Glad to know yall dislike the cult as much as i do. Also , happy to see only positive comments about it from your audience.
Then you haven't been looking very hard, I've stumbled across like 10 "yeah no thanks not into lame American political jokes on my video game channel" in about 5 minutes
I eventually got into _Watch Dogs: Legion_ with its no-main-character gimmick, but I gotta say, if they'd actually done the game entirely with Dalton Wolfe or someone like him, that would not actually have sucked. On the other hand, as tutorial missions go, it was pretty bad-ass.
I finished WD 3, but I never got into the switching character mechanic. Had I played as Wolfe for the whole game it would have been interesting, and that intro missions was great, so much hope for the game after that. perhaps if they had been revolving side-kicks it might have been better :)
Well, technically, my character died before the tutorial started in Torment: Tides of Numenera. The game starts the character plummeting from the skies, and you can either try fall aerodynamically or spread your arms. I tried what would happen if I tried to fall aerodynamically.
Another good example is 1996’s Blood Omen Legacy of Kain. Having been refused a pint at the local, you wander outside only to hear "There he is, get him!" At which point its a case of how long can you last with no powers and a limited combo, before being stabbed right through the heart. And then the game starts.
@NickW855 while true it is another death there, as he's reduced to a spirit and needs to rebuild himself a new body to interact with the physical world after being cast into the Abyss
How about Ethan Winters in Resident Evil 7? Okay, so this isn't revealed until Resident Evil 8 when Ethan gets his heart removed by Miranda right before the final battle, but it counts right?
Unrelated, but thanks Ellen for the tip on the LOTR Conqueror Challenge. I got a group of friends to join, and I just made it to Bree today! Once we all catch up, I think we'll do the 680 mi to Moria as a fellowship. It really is good motivation to keep active. I hope you're progressing nicely yourself!
If this one was never mentioned,Bioshock 2: Delta the Alpha Series of Big Daddies you play as gets killed at the start of the game,then is brought back to life years later by Eleanor Lamb through connections with the new Little Sisters
As a European who tries to keep up with news from around the world - which, in terms of US-news, nowadays sadly means you'll hear more about Fox News than you'd ever want to - that one caught me off guard, too... especially since they usually don't shy away from staying very british with their references...
Her bad jokes are hit and miss depending on your preferences but definitely love her face when she knows it’s a bad joke but couldn’t resist anyway since Luke reacts to them usually 😅
Paper Mario 1 kicks off with an unwinnable fight against Bowser where after a few turns, Bowser flexes on you and uses the Star Rod to make himself invincible and scorch Mario to death.
I’ll be honest, the opening guy in “Watch Dogs Legion” would’ve been much cooler to play as instead of what they did with the multiple characters you could recruit. A James Bond adjacent hacker would actually be cool to play and could be a nice compromise between the styles of the first and second games tone.
There's Fallout: New Vegas where you're shot in the head and are likely dead while Doc is operating on you. There's Knights Of The Old Republic where you(Revan) technically die before waking up with a new identity. Then there's Fable 2 where you die and are brought back by some old witch that then teaches you how to fight and stuff
Note: The Dragon isn't a God. He's basically the Hand of God and the first major test for the Arisen. When they're gone, if the Arisen fails at any point after that, THEY become the Dragon. Grigori, after failing his quest, WANTS to see the new Arisen succeed, but not without trial.
“People can live without a sole right?” Andy my good man, i have not worn a complete shoe since ‘92… Oh wait, he meant SOUL. And i am only 28… really dropped the ball there 😅
dead space extraction's death at the beginning was however an interesting look into what happens to the non-immune. Since Isaac is half immune as are a few others in the series and a few are fully fledged immune like that fiance lexine of that poor dead guy you play as.
Well that's not really part of the plot. You could make an argument for the Shrine of Resurrection counting as being revived in early game, but the actual dying part you only see way later on.
Final Fantasy II. You start the game in an unwinnable fight where Firion and party are killed but a little later you wake up in the Rebel Army's headquarters in Altair.
One game that kills the main character, though not right away, but in the first three or so hours after you’ve gotten attached to them (first trial) is Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
4:04 Is that supposed to be (or reference) a Zohar or emulator from Xenosaga on the sword/her chest? the blue thing...i havent played anything beyond the first xenoblade, didnt like the combat system. MUCH preferred Xenosaga...gotta get around to playing Xenogears too.
This could be a fun video idea. 7 video game characters that are to meta for there own good. And if you do this topic, please include the squid barron from the shantae series
Played Disco Elysium. Tried to remove my tie from the still working ceiling fan. Overexerted myself, had a stroke, died. Total time played: 30 seconds. The rpg introscreen took me longer than I actually managed to play, on my first try. My second try ended with my character taking physical damage from sitting in a shitty chair, emotional damage because I was taunted with my misplaced gun, and finally the poor man gave up to go drink himself to death under a bridge somewhere. Good times.
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Eight suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts, Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, Weatly from portal 2, Faize from Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus, and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Basically ANY game where you spend the majority of it as a vampire has to count, right? Though the one that immediately comes to mind (other than VTMB) is Vampyr, where you have to crawl out of the mass grave you were thrown in and accidentally attack your own sister. ...I'll take being sexed up and then murdered over that, I think!
Dantes Inferno You see a cutscene, you play a basic movement tutorial. Immediately after the tutorial, Dante is stabbed in the back and killed and has a boss fight with the Grim Reaper to top it off. He fights off him off and takes his scythe, but the fact that Death literally appeared before him and fought him off implies Dante died at the start of the game and has been undead the entire time.
You die right at the start of Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse, and then you have to take a deal with a god to come back to life. Fun thing about that is that it's not a one-time thing; if you die during gameplay, he'll resurrect you for free. Also, fun fact: if you find a thermometer, it says that your body temperature is abnormally low, just above the hypothermia threshold.
Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse starts with you getting killed and buried and a bit later a city being build on your grave... and then you get back up, go get revenge and even find love... its a weird game.
@@oxfanblink4115 You are not in control in the Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines either as it happens in the starting cutscene as well, so if that was on the list then why not this?
In Detroit: Become Human, you can have 2, yes 2 main characters killed early on without it being a game over. Agree with the diversity of accents in games BTW.
As someone who played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 The reason Why Jin and Malos made Rex Open the door is because Rex is a Leftherian and Leftherians are decendants of the legendary hero Adam from the age of Torna 500 years ago. The door lock has the Leftherian logo.
Not gonna lie, I did like Legion and its concept but I really would‘ve liked to keep Dalton. The opening was genuinely great and showed so much promise for that specific dynamic of characters...
It was a bold choice not to have an actual protagonist; I tried to stay with the first character I played as after the prologue as much as possible to make them feel like the main character which I don't think is how the game was meant to be played!
