72v 12000w Enduro Ebike 5 Pros and 5 Cons 

Nice summary, and basically the same conclusions as I have. Best to keep a sleeper bike on the side for trips downtown.

Battery portability is, and has always been a massive factor for me, living in cities, even in towns, its just not plausible to bring a monster truck through your front door to plug in for charging..

Love this video Brother, I did this build as well and you are spot on with the weight problem lol. I went with the QS 12000W motor mounted on a Tusk Impact Rim - Rear 36 Spoke Hole, 19 x 2.15, Shinko Dual Sport 705 Series Tire (110/80-19TL Bias), 72V 28ah molicel 21700 battery and a sabvoton 72200 plug and play controller. Up front a DNM USD8 fork, DNM rear mono shock, Deity Skywire 35 Handlebar and the same XOD brake system with floating disk/rotors. This thing is super fun on the NYC streets and it feels like it's perfect for these crappy NYC roads lol. I'm actually $4200 into my build but thats because I decided to change the controller that came with this kit (Sabvoton 72150) plus went and swapped the rear rim for the wider tusk rim and upgraded the spokes and also purchased the set of shinko tires. I also went with the motor cross seat and had to drill new mounting holes to drop the height of the seat (way to high for me at 5.9"). Totally happy with the end result. Good luck and thanks again for the info on your video. Btw check out a couple of beasts I just introduced to NY, the only 2 that exist outside of South Korea, Oh yeah I'm the loud mouth introducing it lol. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XAGf84NPjFs.html

just took my rcr on its first ride today this thing is dope im so glad i decided to get the 41ah battery when the original 23 didnt work after sitting for a year

Always remember: At the end of the day, it's time to go to bed. Excellent video. Super informative and well thought out. Uses a truthful, down-to-earth (dirt-e pon intended) presentation style most RU-vid videographers should emulate (if they were indeed honest). Thank you, Sam J.

4:59 looking great! Hope to catch some new uploads from you soon!

Sam you are smart man. It's nice to listen to you.

I use similiar ebike 2 years. Truth well told. All in all its awesome!

Awesome videos! I bought a super73 s2 than bought a Onyx a few months later. The Onyx is fun and has double the torque but the super73 is way lighter and a way better turn radius. My buddy bought a s2 as well so when we go riding I take the s2. Its no R or Rx but its still fun to rip through the local golf courses paths!

Good Build & Video, I love my Enduro Ebike build too, biggest con for me is the turning circle, on sealed roads its alot less noticeable but on tight twisty dirt trails where I ride 99.9% of the time, it's got quite a large turning circle compared to a regular mtb. But saying that my (Mid-drive BBSHD) Enduro E-Bike build has many more pros than cons. Thanks for Sharing your Upload 😊🙏👍👌

I'm loving mine. I've had four ebikes and my Enduro replica is by far my favorite. It's definitely heavy and inconvenient though.

7:35 is the exact reason I went with the cs20 and the 17” wheel eventho I am 6”3, easier to take upstairs and load into my highlander …. The cs20 is the lighter frame since IT’s aluminum I got a 5000/8000w motor, fardriver 150a and 50ah Samsung cells 200a BMS battery shipped to NY for 3100$ …. Very excited!!!! But I have to wait 50 days 😭

The forks are beautiful, looks like a future jump stunt bike, it doesn't get any better for a fun machine

nice - it's a really helpful video man!

Great list and to the point.

Excellent video sam... loving your channel pal 👌

Terrific review. Everything you wrote makes great sense. Will give you a counterpoint which may make you giggle a bit. I want to say, you are a thoughtful man who really understands the nuance of 'one size fitting all'. One size does not fit all as you explain. I come from the world of performance cycling as in the lycra dude who can ride a carbon roadbike 25 mph with no motor. In other words, faster than most can ride a bicycle and not as fast as famous people. I'm aging and getting injured more by doing big watts on the bikes trying to keep up with the young guns so decided to build a real fast drop bar roadbike to use for recovery riding. 1500w BBSHD motor, 52V battery. This bike is king among roadbikes. I haven't seen a faster ebike in my town. I haven't seen a bike like you have which is much faster than mine. I can drop a professional cyclist on my ebike. Most elite amateurs cannot hold 30 mph for long on a bicycle. My ebike will do 40 mph. 28mm wide tires. It looks like a road bike. Many don't notice. My bike is black and the big battery kind of blends in. Its quiet. Its a blast. But...but...what you said. My bike is the opposite of yours. One size doesn't fit every occasion. Problem with my bike is riding it fast on the road on less than perfect road surfaces which is common. It beats me up when the road gets just slightly bumpy because those bumps at higher speed on a stiff skinny tired road bike really assault the frame and rider. Higher force/deflection. A dropbar roadbike with 28mm wide tires isn't meant for sustained speeds over 30mph. So I am looking for a bike a bit more like yours. But...but again, your bike is 200 lbs. I want to build a bike maybe 80 lbs with wider lower pressure tires and front suspension at least. Probably a hub motor. What we are talking about is 'finding Goldilocks'. Goldilocks as it turns out is elusive. For a bike more like yours getting into the 200 lb range or 300 lb range, I am likely going to go gas and ride it mostly on the street. 300 cc's or a bit bigger. 80mph min. top speed. More suspension. Stronger frame than what you have. Better brakes. Lights, turn signals, no pedals, more supportive seat. I am not going to part out my motorized roadbike that transforms me into superman on the bike. Its too much fun. My ebike weighs about 40 lbs....20 lbs for the bike and 20 lbs for the battery and motor. I can pick it up easily and I am no longer young. I can even still maneuver a 80 lb ebike. Your bike although very cool is a little heavier than what I want. But no question, the power of your bike, suspension to take the speed...what a hoot it much be to ride. Thanks for sharing your perspective and teaching us how to build a cool bike like you have.

I have the Enduro frame like yours been using it for 3 and 1/2 years a little over 22,000 miles it's definitely the most efficient for long trips but definitely two e-bikes are the way to go . The enduros that are selling for $3,000 or so don't have a qs v3 or a large savoton controller or a battery as large as yours or mine I have a 12 p 18 ass LG mj1 battery pack I can clear a hundred miles at 25 mph on a charge without pedaling my chain fell off eight thousand miles ago so I can't cheat 😂😂😂 your videos are cool like what you do keep tearing it up.

Thats a nice ebike over there, buddy. Good video with valuable information, it would be great to know the range. Cheers.

I have Leili coming, sitting off shore right now. It will compliment Hyperscorpion nicely.

Great review, thx!

I finished my bike a week ago. The speed is absolutely insane. And for having such small brakes it slowes down pretty well to.

Cool vid bro

also concider getting a shlumf drive like i did ,i found a good second hand one ,and now im actually able to pedal the bike without the motor on,and lets you pedal nearly up to like 70 to 80 kilometers per hour

nice video very informative .im building an enduro but realise its not going to be my everyday comute convenient bike so ill be keeping my 52v 2000w aluminium full air suspension bike its fast does 40mph easy but light .but ive now bought a third bike its in the middle tbh its a full sespension downhill bike with huge travel suspension marzochi super ts .and making it 3000 to with 72 volt so that one might make the enduro redundent tbh .or i keep all 3

Riding hard offroad on zoom forks 💀. This guy is insane. Great video.

She's perfect, i love it

I’m buying this bike and a juiced hyperscrambler 2 next month

I like your channel dude! Thanks for the videos. I bought a super73 Rx last year. Wish I had done some more research prior. I like the bike but there is much better value out there for 4000$. Well done videos. Concise and good content! Well done!

Weight and stability at speed are mutually exclusive (most of the time).

I just got my 72v 5000w Stealth Bomber enduro e bike. Has plenty of power. This thing is super fun to drive. I got 90 miles off one full charge!!

The video was extremely helpful to me. I ended up buying one of these (pre-made) from ENDURO ebikes after a small windfall of cash. I looked at every other manufacturer of these enduro-style ebikes and just kept coming back to ENDURO based on their cost effectiveness and many build options on their website. Everything else was thousands more expensive and less powerful with seemingly fewer options. And since I only want it for short commutes, light trails and weekend rides this just made sense. Thanks for your time and effort to make this video.

Dude that's probably the best and honest assessment of that bike. I never considered the Karen's, that major issue in Australia (i'm not kidding)

Great video, I agree with on almost all points. I love my 134v #HellbirdBanditBike, a Trans Am inspired Electric Enduro(王) frame, but it’s about 200lbs and because it stands out, you have to keep your eye on it all the time and have to be mindful around police.

Buying mine now

Nice but how much did it cost¿? Edit: I feel like if you get a good controller you can adjust the settings and get more torque... I'd say that Kelly controllers would be a best choice for adjustability.

you can even get a 20s by 20p battery in there it depends on cell orientation,but youd need to build your own battery

I'm ordering one this or next month

what we did and alot of others is to toss out the small cover underneath and make a custom alloy of acrylic one that can put the controller in ,weve managed to fit a svmc72150 and a svmc7245 both unlocked versions underneath ,with some strategic trimming of the cases,that way it leaves space for battery i managed to get a 20s by 20p battery and also 82 volt supa capacitor bank inside the frame ,it just took abit of time to work it out , the battery and the controllers are also submersion cooled by 3m novec dilectric fluid ,which makes the battery fire proof

3 months ago I bought the 72V 12,000W Enduro for $4,400 because of a few minor mods. Maybe the price has gone up? It's supposed to be off the west coast on a ship right now and here next week by Fedex. We'll see. I feel like I've been waiting forever. I'm only 150lbs so I'm expecting to hit the 60 to 70mph.... but more importantly I'm hoping for decent range. I hope to get over 60 miles on a full charge. Part of my upgrade is the 5 levels of pedal assist.... I'll definitely be pedaling as much as I can. I also added the alarm, key fob, front and rear lights and GPS tracker.

Great video, do you happen to know of any bike’s similar to this one that would be slightly more under the radar, but would still have the speed and range?

How tall is the seat height? Can the bike be lowered through suspension and smaller tire/wheel combo for more street oriented use?

con for me is cost and availability of a battery that will get these things up to their true potential, I paid £600 for a 40ah battery that can only put out 50 amps, and the capacity I can draw from the battery is closer to 30 amp hours than 40 it seems. Sur Rons and Onyx and Delfast are so lucky because they get a professionally made battery with samsung or LG or panasonic cells for a reasonable price.

I order the 72v 56ah, 15000w around two weeks ago! I purchased it from the Chung Electric from China

I just ordered the frame…my normal MTB had the shock inside…but was way too high, the drop out was way too small, and reversing the suspension was way too sketchy…I ended up taking the 3000w off the normal EUROBIKE and putting it back together…I do worry of a 27.5 inch will fit the frame…I was gonna cannibalize it, but I have another bike with a Derailer, and crank shaft….I’m gonna put a 1000w kit on it and sell it’ it will be easy to sell due to the looks’ and it will be below &1200. The only thing it will be missing is it’s front tire….I will purchase a front wheel drive. The stealth bomber frame will be using aftermarket handle bars, fork, suspension, and brakes…make $1200 for the normal euro bike…and purchase a good battery….with money left over to convert a beach cruiser to 750 watts, and sell that for $650. I have a buisness in selling gas and electric….but I’m no longer doing gas, there a headache, and no matter how good you do a conversation….a idiot always seem to break them’ I had one guy comeback with a flat tire’ never sell a gas bike to a person who wants to use them for transportation….gas bikes should only be used as a hobby.

noice

Really been enjoying the videos Sam, do you have a complete parts list for your build and where you ordered them from?

I've got the same bike as you, could you tell me what a few of your settings are so I can get my bike right System Auto assist ? The option for pedal throttle or both option disappeared I'd like to get that back on my display. Advanced settings I'd like to know what all the settings are? Any help would be appreciated

Great video 👍, do u have a link for where you ordered your bike

Hello and many thanks for your videos that gave me the idea to build my own. One question, surely stupid, why are there pedals, chain and else on those models because it is unusefull to make it work. Is it a legal reason so that it is better to look like a bike more than a motorcycle ? Or else ? Thanks a lot and best regards from France 🇫🇷

For cars you actually do get very close to it if you drive over 600 km .+ weather conditions

With those 24ah 52V traingle frame batteries, would it be considerably better to convert an enduro / full suspension mtb to ebike instead of with the enduro frame?

What are your display settings

Best ebike for me is 3, 1 fast hub drive like an enduro. 2 mid drive mountain bike. 3 small folding ebike. I have all 3 but the one I use the most is mid drive because it's mostly riding for fun off road.

42 miles is awesome

I was told by Enduro that I couldn't have a colour screen on my 8000 w . But I see you have a more powerful bike . Where can I get a colour screen for mine? Thanks

I've found on average a rider gets approx 1 mile distance for every amp hour if you cruise around 15mph on a flat half decent day, and that's an adult.

It's feel like a motorcycle

Do You have the links to all the parts that go into building the complete bike

Hey does the controller heat not affect your battery, I'm debating whether to mount inside or at the bottom of the frame

Hey buddy! I am looking into buying one of these of alibaba. What is the dimension of the tyres in this video? Im assuming 26", but the width?

What's model?

Knee pads. leather and studs. Serious metal German helmet, Insurance and a prayer.

How would a bigger rider fit on an Enduro style bike?

Do u feel that this bike is heavy?

I am thinking about getting one is it worth it? And is it really 500 Charges to re-charge? Would you recommend it to a Beginner rider, How many miles of long range can you go max? On that 12000w, I been told is can go 60 miles max and top out at 76mph of speed

How do you change the odometer from Km to Mile?

Hi. Please tell me, what size of tires ?

Hi would a person of 6 foot 7 fit on this bike . Highten the seet etc ?

Which battery to use for this 12000w engine?

Sounds like the only con is how heavy the frame is

i am very new to e-bikes and thinking whether or not i should buy or build one myself, the Stealth P-7R is a 3.7kw e bike that weights only 63 pounds, has a 100 mile range, and a decent speed of 28 mph, what exactly makes your bike a whopping 3 times heavier?

Wen you ride in city, do you wear a helmet? And are you in California.?

Can you send your exact parts links that you used for this build?

what is the best after market tires?

Virtually all your cons can be mitigated with carbon fiber... if only there was an Enduro carbon fiber frame :(

I bought a 2009 ktm 530 exc tops out at 112 mph 40mpg street legal paid 2500

What headlight are you using?

3.5T has exactly same torque capability than 5T, just takes a stronger battery and controller

Hi there all OK?? Just got my 12000w bike and theres something that is confusing.... I have the ukc1 display and at 34 %battery my bike Just died.... For real Just stoped the motor and i couldent do anything..... Hapen today.... Send messag to the seller and she says that is normal, that there is a delay in the display.... My battery is 72v 48amp /h... I did 69 kms... I dont think that this is correct... Stop with 34 %???? Do you have an ideia to change this?

Great video! Yes there’s definitely some Karen’s out there male and female lol

Because welling it's not good. it's need to be better job inside the frame

Can I have the link for it please

I'm 5'4..could I comfortably ride this?

Where can these be bought for 3500 built?

What’s the payload on one of these bikes

G want to sell it? I would love to have one

How tall are you and how tall is the seat?

What town are those trails in?

How much money can you expect to spend on bike maitanance monthly? Thank you

What's a good size rider for the ebike?

Where can I get one ?

Does it gets overheat

I would only ues it for the road

Which bike is this

Running into Karens. Put it in the pro list 🙃🙂

How you avoid the cops see you go 40km

Built mine for 2k

Top speed?

You are looking at it wrong, it's not an ebike it's a hybrid motorcycle.