80lb Crossbow Power Tests - Hori-zone, Tomcat MK2, MK Alloy

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80lb Pistol Crossbow Power Tests - Hori-zone RedBack, Tomcat MK2 (Not the new Tomcat II link below for those tests), MK Alloy Pistol Crossbows tests for Power, Draw Weight and Penetration.
NEW FULL TESTS of the Horizone Redback VS Armex Tomcat 2 • 80lb Pistol Crossbow T...
Tests shown:
Power Tests against a weighted knock down target.
Draw Weight using scales
Penetration Tests against old books. (old cheat code books)
None of these tests are particularly accurate but do show the big differences between the various crossbows on the market, if i am correct with my calculations the Hori-zone should be hitting at either 15.5ft/lb or 29ft/lb - either one is very powerful.
Crossbows used were
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Armex Tomcat MK2 80LB (Not the new Tomcat II) - goo.gl/V6Ce8w
MK Alloy 80lb - goo.gl/Ma3fkT
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@WeaponCollector 5 лет назад

Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE for more videos like this - AND CLICK THE BELL AND SELECT ALL so you can see all future videos - Thanks. NEW FULL TESTS of the Horizone Redback VS Armex Tomcat 2 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JT6wptFCZA8.html

@joethompson2910 3 года назад

Hey brother.... after you mentioned that those two crossbow’s had the same bow but one hit a little harder and it was because of the drawl length I was just wondering if you have experimented with tying a knot on each side of the bow string to shorten it ever so slightly to see if that adds a little bit of noticeable power, I haven’t seen anybody do a test like that but the length of the bow string will totally affect the power... that being said if you had a slightly longer bow string on your red back it would probably D power it slightly and make it easier to caulk I’d like to see a video done on that if you’re up for it, thank you for your time brother!

@joethompson2910 3 года назад

Voice text, sorry LOL

@jasonthomas7103 4 года назад

Got to be honest mate, this set of comparison tests were of all that I have seen and that is a lot, hands the the best thought out tests I have ever seen. Fair play to you, no fancy gadgets just old school genius, I love it well done.

@shaunemienstra8586 4 года назад

This is the first vid of yours that I have watched . WELL DONE !! Great and thorough testing . I dont sub often , but you my friend earned it ! Keep ‘em coming 👍🏻

@gerber680 6 лет назад

Great testing of the pistol crossbows - the edit of 3 of you firing them at once was a great idea!

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Thanks mate, glad you .liked it i'll have to do that again in future videos

@83airgunner73 3 года назад

the weighted target idea is great... i'm surprised companies don't make these ... 👌👍

@WeaponCollector 3 года назад

Thanks mate, glad you liked it, i have had a few people say thats was quite a good idea, nice to know others thought so too.

@captainraymond123 4 года назад

Nice video mate,you helped me make up my mind to which one I should get.Thanks,Just ordered me the Horizon redback pistol crossbow can't wait for it to come in.

@user-ec6ix9ck2k 2 года назад

Excellent tests! Good idea to check the actual drawweight.

@salvadorpneri 5 лет назад

This is the best detailed test I've ever seen. The impact test (a.k.a. Kinetic) is the best measure of energy hitting the target. Your method (w/all due respect) is not the true measure to gauge kinetic energy simply because your method displaces the force (shock) downward rather than impacting the total force locally or centrally at the impact point. Never-the-less, your presentation is scholarly - jolly good old man.

@phantomthiefirwin9631 5 лет назад

Your little contraption was SUCH a good idea!! Ive NEVER seen anyone do anything like that.

@WeaponCollector 5 лет назад

Thanks mate, works good doesn't it, really shows the power difference

@phantomthiefirwin9631 5 лет назад

@@WeaponCollector YES

@marvinjackson4498 4 года назад

Really good tests. The energy test isn't perfect but clearly shows which one was the most powerful.

@survivedsavedjohn1468 5 лет назад

Thanks dude I appreciate it I've got one of those coming in the mail thanks

@discostu9585 5 лет назад

Thanks for this. I've ordered one of these Hori zones for me and my lad to use today. Hopefully be here tommorow. My other xbows are too powerful to use in my yard.

@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад

Excellent tests, your tests backed up the same results I got last year. I thought the drawweight scale test was excellent and the knockdown target, great ideas there. Obviously the longer powerstroke and stiffer prod does a great deal to increase the power. With bows and physics, the higher the draw-weight, the longer the draw/power-stroke and the longer the actual bow all play into power. It's why Medieval crossbows were so inefficient, the prods tended to be short and they kept increasing the draw weight, while that's good for a compact crossbow, it means the shooter will tire faster having to pull back a heavier prod each time. In theory a short bow with a draw weight of 40lb would be outshot by a longbow with a lower draw weight.

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Glad you liked the tests mate, was very interesting to see the true draw weight and nice to know too, and yes, goes to show even 3cm more powerstroke in the 2 old ones makes quite a difference doesn't it, i'll do some more tests in a few weeks just for the sake of it, it's nice having these videos as a quick reference.

@gchromesucks7991 6 лет назад

Great tests. I bought the Hori-Zone last year after much research. Most pistol crossbows are clones or variants of the two 42 lb models you tested. Not the RedBack, it's on a whole other level. The Picatinny rail, the trigger pull, and very satisfying positive click of the safety separates the Hori-Zone from the clones. And my forearms (and sore arms) can attest to to draw weight difference lol. I'd love to see how many discs a JaXce bolt will knock down.

@BarryCampbell6822 2 года назад

Excellent tests Michael. I know you'll remember me never being too impressed with the xbow pistols over the years for the purposes we used to discuss, but I dis end up getting a Redback on your recommendation, and now I've got 2, and an XR. Brilliant vid as always my mate, stay safe Baz

@WeaponCollector 2 года назад

Nice one Baz, you can really tell theres a difference in these newer crossbows can't you, well worth owning, can even shoot broadhead bolts and larger bolts too if you take the anti dry fire out. I'll be doing plenty of tests again soon - coconuts, body armour, meat, stuff like that.

@BarryCampbell6822 2 года назад

@@WeaponCollector The biggest improvement in them Mike I think is the inclusion of a proper sear/release system mate. I notice that the Steambow Stinger still has that old notch/push up release, which was always sketchy, and effected accuracy terribly. Its a wonder our Ben never had his eye took out or got accidentally shot in the arse. They are a lot better as bedside table equipment nowadays, like

@WeaponCollector 2 года назад

@@BarryCampbell6822 exactly Baz, they now function the same as full size crossbows so much safer as you say, Joerg sprave has just bought out a Steambow Stinger 2, brand new crossbow but still has that out dated, old system of the string sitting in a groove (without any safety features at all too) and massively over priced at about £250, lol. The red back, and tomcat 2 and tron are much safer, and affordable.

@sak94 6 лет назад

Great video mate, proper decent tests. those draw weight results were surprising, at least with the horizone your pretty much getting the draw weight they says its got. 👍

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Cheers Stu, always interesting to know isn't it, those hori-zone really are decent aren't they.

@sak94 6 лет назад

100% mate might have to get one haha

@joellenzimmerman4493 4 года назад

You are so very wonderful! Thank you for taking the time to do this test. Could you do one on the Bear Extreme Venom? Just curious.

@BladeObssession 6 лет назад

Really innovative testing man. Good job.

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Thanks mate, glad you liked the tests.

@stuartmccloud307 5 лет назад

Good tests mate, I reckon a Horizone is on the horizon.

@CampingMasterPierreNadon 5 лет назад

Thank you very much for your video, I liked it very much, very interesting. I am in QC Canada and I will buy the BOLT crosbows Seeker BT121 in the next few days for target shooting this summer and as a survival tool when I fly up north with my Cessna 172.

@brwhyon 3 года назад

thanks for the review, just picked up the Hori-zone or what ever equivalent it sells for here in the states. I collect as well, posted a sign outside my door, "this door is locked for your protection", no break-ins to this day, LOL ! Cheers !

@WeaponCollector 3 года назад

Excellent, glad to help, the sign sounds great too, lol

@TheIcemanModdeler 2 года назад

Awesome thanks for posting, will be getting a HoriZone Redback XR for home defense, that plus the super sharp arrows used for hunting will be a perfect combination.

@ee222 5 лет назад

i really liked your power test. great idea!

@JJRSURVIVAL 6 лет назад

great video , the scales worked good , nice one

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

yeah worked perfect really. cheers

@Johanlom21 5 лет назад

A lot of useful info, excellent video. I would like to know if you keep your crossbows strung in between use and if the drop in draw weight correlates to the age of the bowstring/crossbow.

@markwatts2532 6 лет назад

Best test ive seen for these popular Xbows.....Have you seen the new cobra R9 ?

@woodisgood4969 5 лет назад

Very interesting video. Thanks for great job.

@noohohno 3 года назад

Appreciate a quality & real comparison. Agree with you feel about fps. Hitting power and accuracy trumps fps. Hori-zone RedBack is hard to find in the USA. Went with it's look alike, but #50(makers spec). PSE Viper SS. May need to add the JaXce Backbone. Adds supposedly #30 of draw weight.

@Banthah 4 года назад

Hi WeaponCollecter. I’m new to all this, and looking at my first pistol crossbow. The HoriZone model looks like a great option. In your opinion, is this the best pistol crossbow out there for us in the UK? If not, what’s better? And by “better” I mean hits harder, flies further, and more accurate. Thanks a lot fella

@BUSHCRAPPING 6 лет назад

these were really well done tests mate, impressed

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Cheers mate, glad you liked them, goes to show how good those new crossbows are.

@66seb 4 года назад

Great tests, review and vid.

@martroger5063 4 года назад

Great vid. Keep them coming

@WeaponCollector 4 года назад

Thanks Martin, i will be doing a full comparison of the Redback vs Tomcat 2 soon

@gasmaskreviewer122 6 лет назад

Nice video mate, very interesting.

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Thanks mate, shall do some more soon.

@mattpaul6805 5 лет назад

Good stuff, how do you rate the mini Cobra crossbow mate? Spec says 80lb draw.

@Sicsicka 4 года назад

Great channel nice tests😀

@Captain-Electro 6 лет назад

Wait, you said you were a twin... I saw three of you in this video! Great test buddy. I did wonder if you hit the weighted target higher or lower how it would effect the leverage and that answered my question. Great shooting!

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

haha, we didn't tell you about the triplet, lol, defo makes a difference if you hit higher or lower so i tried hard to hit the same(ish) area, as long as it wasn't too much higher or lower its should be reasonably accurate, it does help that there's a big difference too which meant I didn't need to go into minute detail.

@simonh2011 4 года назад

just had a little thought, do you think if you got a better (tighter) string for the other 2 would they become more powerful due to more compression of the limbs or would they just break?

@ziblot1235 4 года назад

I had one like that MK alloy. It looked very close. Had a steel string, not nylon. But the safety wouldnt hold. You had to be careful because once you coked it and put a bolt in it, it was subject to just let loose.

@benzo430 4 года назад

great test, thanks

@patetses4pattes567 Год назад

Thanks for this test 👍

@WeaponCollector Год назад

Cheers for watching Pat

@duglan 2 года назад

Very good, brother. 😎👍

@jimjack3447 4 года назад

Very good compare video indeed. Thank you

@WeaponCollector 4 года назад

Cheers mate, glad you liked it. I have a version of this video with the redback and tomcat 2 now as well.

@jimjack3447 4 года назад

@@WeaponCollector I'm thinking the Hori-zone has the edge on the others

@patricklions9066 3 года назад

The energy tester is ingenious

@user-dd7fw8ox3c 4 года назад

Add fiberglass lamination's to the arms, and build it up so you can make them much more powerful

@tomwolf4609 3 года назад

Very good test.

@Fatneckredneck 2 года назад

Well I'm very late for this party and boy are these like rocking horse sh#t!

@TheCraigy83 6 лет назад

test rig looked spot on m8 !..i think at 20meter the 40 pound ones would still be ok..or at least a repellent....probably perfect for women to operate easy...🙂👍🏻

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Thanks mate, glad you liked the tests, and i agree - the 42lb ones are still good, and still hit decently, and would be perfect for someone who wants a lighter / easier draw as you mentioned.

@zednotzee7 6 лет назад

As you said, the RedBack was always going to be the winner, lol. It was an interesting vid though, I really liked the hitting power test. Of course for a bit of fun in the back garden the power isn't really important, but it is interesting to know these things. Mind you, I wouldn't want to get shot with any of them !

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

always knew the redback would be better but was still interesting to see by how much wasn't it, glad you liked the tests mate, cheers

@craigjones2015 4 года назад

Put the aluminum spacer in the back push the bow further forwards

@azhleysentertainmentofbore922 3 года назад

You came up with the testing with the lead disks? I seen another guy do it. But maybe it was another of your videos

@WeaponCollector 3 года назад

Yes i created it, if it was another crossbow video very much like this then it was probably me, i have this test in a few videos/

@MrSh4W 6 лет назад

Good video pal, definitely glad i made the right choice with the hori-zone redback pistol crossbow, just need develop a technique and the muscles too cock the bloody thing lol

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

try what i do, stick the handle on your stomach when cocking, watch the 3rd video i did on these and you'll see my technique.

@MrSh4W 6 лет назад

WeaponCollector Yeh i tried that way, i find it a little easier if i use my knee and sort of cock it that way if you know what i mean, its my very first crossbow so hopefully it will get easier, good fun though if used right, cheers for the tip anyway

@khanara6 5 лет назад

Appreciate the speedy response! Have you made a video on the new armex tomcat 2? If not, just a short sentence about what you think of it because I'm in the market for a new pistol crossbow

@WeaponCollector 5 лет назад

Sorry mate, no not used that one, but its supposed to be as good as the 80lb redback hori-zone.

@RDPproject 6 лет назад

The Hitting Power you're talking about is *Kinetic Energy*

@jonslife3533 3 года назад

I have an MK alloy clone , but I believe mine has a higher draw weight than one in the video If you've seen my old videos , you'll know I'm not wimpy by any means and my clone gives me problems It also has a bit more penetration than the 2 lighter bows

@James-ke5sx 5 лет назад

Almost decapitated my finger tips twice inserting arrows cause the string slipped out the firing notch even with the safety on

@khanara6 5 лет назад

A question.... Did they all have new bow strings? Because I magine older bowstrings will cause reduction in power

@WeaponCollector 5 лет назад

Good point, and no they are not new, and they also have old prods too, but these new ones are still considerably more powerful even if the old ones have new strings and prod.

@chuckbradley1 4 года назад

God tests. Thanks.

@WeaponCollector 4 года назад

Thanks mate, i have done tests on the redback vs tomcat 2 now as well.

@hamiltonsteeleisgaz 4 года назад

Does the recurve feature add strength.?

@LiftedBuddha 6 лет назад

Is the safety on the horizone better than the others? the tomcat safety doesn't look very safe..

@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад

Yes the safeties are very good, has a standard safety, and an anti dry fire safety (won't fire till a bolt is in place) and a safety feature to stop it shooting if the cocking arm is open so its very good.

@staceykelly8399 3 года назад

Very nice and thank you for your time today was a wonderful show , if someone knows may they please help me with finding one please and thank you so kindly please just let me know the $$cost and I will be very much so happy to attend and deal with you kindly thank you so kindly young fellas and young ladies

@staceykelly8399 3 года назад

How can I get one of them mini crossbows because they dont sell them anywhere here in Canada anymore? And I have been trying to find another one since I was a kid ?

@paulukjames7799 3 года назад

try online maybe

@staceykelly8399 3 года назад

I have tried thank you so kindly but they keep stopping it at the border and I end up not getting it plus I looze my money , but if you know anyone that would like to sell theres I'd be happy to attend to them and buy it please and thank you so kindly young fellas and or young ladies please be safe and may god bless .

@eastsider5199 3 года назад

Good vids where can i an American get that beautiful crossbow pistol the horizone redback. In the us or shipped to the us thanks maybe with some extra parts string limb etc so as to get all i would need maybe one of those weighted targets as well thanks an American weapons gatherer and would like to have the best.

@owenthomas9863 2 месяца назад

Have you tested the Redback with a chrony? What where the results?

@WeaponCollector 2 месяца назад

Hi Owen, yes I did a chrony test for an old and brand new redback recently, I have a video of it.

@Meloncholymadness 4 года назад

It was obvious which would win, going off the poundage and power stroke alone... Though it's annoying as fuck that they lie about the draw weight...

@user-jt9vi4ib7i 5 месяцев назад

Your weighted target test is basically a momentum test in primative form you realize that mate.

@liberallunatic 4 года назад

any tips on stringing the pistol xbows?

@WeaponCollector 4 года назад

Chris look on my channel i have a video on it, search horizone on my channel

@hjvfyhj 5 лет назад

Спасибо брат! Очень хороший тест. Куплю себе такой арбалет. На стене позади тебя отличное оружие. Из России с любовью))))!

@rogeriocoutinho3714 5 лет назад

Tenho uma

@espacodolucas 6 лет назад

Finaly, I found your you hahaha thanks #Brazil

@alefbet3918 5 лет назад

Have they produced tabular titanium bolts yet? Extremely misleading for manufacturers to label a toy 80lb yet 42lb is max. Basically nerf toys without foam darts.

@matthewhardman6139 5 лет назад

Looks like you got different pound crossbows and called them 80lbs

@goober3044 4 года назад

Does anyone know when the horizone redback will be on sale again?

@matoko123 3 года назад

When the strong possibility of civil unrest passes. So, probably never.

@goober3044 3 года назад

@@matoko123 I got one from the UK. Shipped it for $20.

@matoko123 3 года назад

@@goober3044 Nice one :) They're pretty amazing for what they are.

@goober3044 3 года назад

@@matoko123 Good to know. I've had yet to try it out. Any pointers if you dont mind me asking especially about the string. I hear the string brakes after 100 shots.

@simonci5177 5 лет назад

You are from UK. What is this all pistols behind you? I thought all pistols are illegal in UK. No permits are given. Pistol permits are only to police and army.

@WeaponCollector 5 лет назад

They are all legal and are air guns and replicas, all of which are perfectly legal to own and display on a wall without being locked up.

@swunt10 4 года назад

remember kids. the difference between science and fooling around is writing down the numbers ^^

@garyjohnson1970 3 года назад

The old mk has two limbs, metal and fibre, and the same with the body. The sharp metal bolts penetrate better, but they break before the stock ones. I think you could take some squirrels, with the metal bolts..

@cromwellsghost3434 4 года назад

1:08 all those weapons on display, an impressive collection, yet your targets are taped up books? 🤔

@sh4969 2 года назад

A meat test a rib cage with layer of clothes over them

@hombrewatt8704 3 года назад

Yeah but you sure that no are published only?

@WeaponCollector 3 года назад

Not sure what you mean mate?

@hombrewatt8704 3 года назад

@@WeaponCollector that isn't just for advertising. Sorry but I'm not speak English. Greetings

@bobcoulon2449 2 года назад

The test is flawed - It depends where the arrow hits the block.

@WeaponCollector 2 года назад

O.K, i'll admit its defo not totally accurate, as you say bolt placement makes a difference, but it is a good demo of the different power of these crossbows. When i use the redback and new tomcat 2 (not the one shown) they are the same power and knock down the same amount of weight no matter where the bolt placement is, these crossbows are very different in power and the knock down target shows it in a nice visual way, and for these tests combined with the others i showed i think thats enough accuracy.

@bobcoulon2449 2 года назад

@@WeaponCollector good job , just making a silly point, no big deal