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😒Bought the 2TB cellular model. It's the first iPad pro I own and man 🤦🏻♂️ next to my car it's the next expensive thing I own. I'm not getting another iPad for another 5-7 years. 😕
@@mikemartins3297 I’m pretty it can last longer than that. My family and I used to have a 16gigs iPad 3rd gen for 5 yrs and it was still good at it’s retiring point. Had to replace it as it had no storage room left.
Been taking note of the battery percentage on both devices from the beginning. The 8GB dropped 12% while the 16GB dropped 15%. Maybe you guys should run a battery test for these two devices to see if the additional RAM uses more power?
Late reply but the one that started at 100% went down less points because all iOS/iPadOS devices stay at 100% for longer any other percentage point. My iPad often stays at 100% for an hour or more from normal usage, and then drains at a more normal rate after that.
I am interested to know how the ram difference affects document size and layer limits in procreate. In the past as the ipads have increased their ‘ram’, procreate was able to increase the maximum layer count for a project. This could be a decision maker for me as i have created largish (30”x30” @300 ppi)illustrations in procreate and was frustrated by the 8 layer limit in the project.
@@godling_jin I guess I should have done. Little research…apparently Procreate on the new m1 iPads can only access about 1/2 as many layers as older iPads because Procreate does not yet recognize the new m1 iPads capacity, and caps the maximum layers/size to prevent crashing. Procreate is working on fixing this…so until then we will not know…but it is too late for me…I already ordered the 1 tb 2021 iPad to get the 16 gb of “ram”. Hopefully the Procreate 5.2 update that is coming will fix it. Seeing S my new iPad will not arrive until the end of June, I may not need to worry
@@davidgordon7457 you probably shouldn't. The fine folks at Procreate have a fast track record when it comes to new iPad releases and/or iPadOS updates. And why shouldn't they, they rely on the iPad & iPadOS. P.S. I did the same, I do however make use of that 1TB (or at least of more than 512gb).
@@davidgordon7457 nah don't even stress man, procreate will be on top of that, just give them a short bit of time to make sure that the update is polished and bug free.
8 layers does sound limiting, not to mention destructive having to merge down couple of layers to make way for new ones. May I ask, which iPad model are you referring to?
I went from 1gb of ram on my ipad air (1st gen) to 8gb on the 2021 ipad pro. ipads are unkillable machines they just refuse to die. My air is still working (7+ years now), but a single tab takes 30 secs to load on safari lol. The pro would probably last 5-10 years easily like my ipad air did.
Yeah, im here with my Iphone 7 since it released, still running fine enough for me (aside from the battery). And i bought the 12.9” 2tb Cellular because im planning on using it for at least 4-8 years, knowing Apple it should at least last 4 years but i wouldnt be surprised it lasts longer
I still use my air 2. It still runs smoothly and have tons of apps downloaded in it. I can't even imagine what the m1 ipad pro can do. Will last 20+ years for me😂
I’m sure that in Apple‘s internal testing, they observed that there was little to no difference in performance between the two models. I am thinking that the additional RAM will become more evident in future updates of iPadOS. Let’s see what we find out at WWDC!
Yes an approach with no clue on what he is talking about. Current iOS only lets app developers to access 5 gb ram. That will probably soon change. But advising people on theis flawed test is a joke.
The main difference for the 8G and 16G model is that the larger Ram can still run smoothly after several iOS upgrades in the future years, but these target consumers have already bought new iPads to replace them.
My concern is what having that much Ram and the option to choose will do for developers' optimisation. Software often absorbs performance improvements by being sloppy and inefficient.
Dang, really? So those with the 16gb won't even get to experience the speed until iOS 15 comes out this fall?? Or join the beta and deal with unstable iOS 15? That stinks.
I’m wondering if this video is still as useful considering that Apple increased the amount of RAM each app can use to 12 GB if you have the 16 GB model. When this video was made, the 16 GB RAM model was capped to a maximum useage of 5 GB RAM. Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
I am curious about this a well. In a couple of months from now new iPad Pros will be out. Gonna snag a m1 at a great price. Maybe refurbished. Apple has always been great about optimizing for legacy devices. App developers in the same regards. Pro apps are coming for sure and extra ram will help. As for gaming and ram, you watch Apple is going to own the mobile gaming market with Apple Arcade and more intense graphic demanding games. Can’t wait.
@@jawadulkarim9498 well I kinda disagree. I’ve only bought one refurbished iPad Pro. The iPad Pro 10.1 , and it has served me well with no issues. Bought directly from Apple. That being said I love the idea of buying new as well. Should be a good price on the iPad Pro M1 come October.
@@liuxh3516 that’s literally the purpose of ram though, hence the name “random access memory” for short term storage of information that is being processed simultaneous or in the background
Upgrading from my 2018 iPad Pro 11 512gb to an iPad Pro M1 1tb, I definitely see more consistency using slide over. With my 2018 there were many times I’d have to relaunch the app in order to access it via slide over again.
I would still get the 16GB RAM option if I could tbh. Word is that Apple currently limits the amount of RAM all apps can access to to 5GB at this time (I’m one of the reasons for that is if apps could access all 16GB RAM and all of that memory was used actively you would nuke your battery), but Apple could change / tweak how iPadOS works with iPadOS 15 this summer, and there’s obviously a reason they put 16GB RAM into the 1 & 2TB models this year. So, I would still get the 16GB model if I had the money, for futureproofness.
Crazy ram management! 8gb did great, but I remember the 2020 model with 6gb already being super efficient so no surprise with the newer models being even better
Btw the 16 GB can't really unleash it's full power as the iPad OS on the M1 iPads are software capped at 5GB only. Would be more interesting to see the difference once the software limit is removed.
agreed. this video is kind of useless because the current iOS cant even factor in all of the ram on either devices so you wouldn’t be able to tell the differences between the two models
That's kinda unfortunate. It basically makes the situation similar to how people used to use SAI1 before SAI2 got stable enough. The need to create detailed high resolution painting meet the hard limit of 32 bit program that is about 3.8GB. And SAI1 would crash when ram limit is reached. Most software is more ram efficient than SAI1, though, but it doesn't change the fact that this ram cap isn't sufficient enough, especially when factor in the need to multitask. I guess the only fortunate thing here is that, non-pro users would likely not need that much power, while pro users conserve layer count way better so it's more workable.
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Sure no difference between these two iPads because of the rams but keep in mind new iPad iOS will be available soon will see what difference it will make
This isn’t necessarily true. MacBooks are already performing great with M1+8GB. The only people that will need 16GB is if for some reason you like to edit video and edit pictures in Photoshop at the same time.
@@misterdragzon wrong. I have the 16gb MacBook Pro and I've outgrown the M1 chip. I have a lot of heavy apps open, several browsers for specific uses, and Safari is my main browser with several dozen tabs opened (a lot of heavy web apps opened too). Sometimes when I open a new tab, the cursor turns into a spinning ball. I also have a 34" ultra wide curved monitor as the main display, lots of bluetooth devices hooked up to it and HomePod mini as the main speaker. I can go on and on but I'm ready for the next generation of Apple Silicon!
@@cim8097 buddy I just said that for an M1 iPad and in relation to RAM. You just described a workflow with 800 moving parts and obviously needs a Pro M1X chip with 32GB min.
Top Class, nicely done. Definitely don't need to spend the extra money. I've got a 256GB and I can't even get it filled up more than halfway - I've tried really hard adding games etc. That's where I'm gonna max out again...
This was actually very useful. I've been waiting for this video since you said that you'll be doing a comparison video of the ram. Finally, I know what configuration to go for. Thanks for the enlightening content. More power to your channel. Hope you'll reach your 1-million goal before the end of the year because you guys are awesome!
Since there is a cap on RAM for the current iOS, you won’t be getting a true comparison until the next iOS is released and software is optimized to use the extra RAM. If you can afford it, go with the extra RAM- it’s future proof. If your a professional digital artist, I would wait a little longer on the comparison videos that come out after the new iOS and software optimizations. If your eager to get your hands on new tech, the 8gb versions will do more than enough for the next few years and you won’t be disappointed either way.
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The higher ram I think will matter more for future proofing but in my experience once the ram isn’t enough the rest of the system likely isn’t enough either. Plus I read a rumor that IPadOS may currently only use up to 8GB. That will likely change after WWDC so maybe once IPadOS is updated the 16GB version will start to see an advantage. Finally IPadOS has always done well with less ram. Apps in the background is not really the same as having ten apps open on a computer. None of the background apps should be using very much if any ram. I’m an app developer and when apps are sent to the background we usually have to save the current data to the asynchronous storage. Then when an app is resumed it actually reads that async storage to get the app back to where it left off. So really the only main use of ram is inside of each sandboxed individual app in the foreground. That means only really document size is going to be impacted by ram. For example the 8GB may be limited to a 30 minute video project with 200 clips vs the 16GB which could do much longer. I’m just making up numbers now but typically on IPadOS that’s the only time more Ram really matters. This is why Apple always told us we don’t need to close background apps. They actually don’t use much ram at all and the garbage collecting in the OS will close what isn’t needed. This is why we can play a demanding game for days and all our background apps are still there.
What do you mean by « Asynchronous storage » ? Strangely enough, back when I had an iPhone X with 3Gigs of RAM with iOS 14, I could’t have more than 4 Apps in the background including the one in the foreground. If I wanted to open an 5th App, all the others would automatically refreshing as I opened them one by one. Why is that ? Thanks !
OMG Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You save me $700; I almost bought the 1TB just for the ram (really hate slow computers) even if all I need is 128GB. THIS kind of review is what the world needs - very practical. Me on Apple reviews in other channels: "Yeah, I know it performs well; anything more?" Max Tech 👍👍👍👍👍
Decided to upgrade from my 2017 10.5 iPad Pro to one of the new 12.9 models (once there's available stock), had pretty much decided on 512GB but was wondering whether the 1TB would be worth it for the RAM. Thanks for the demonstration, will stick with getting a 512Gb when I can get one.
Ditto me too. 1TB just becomes so pricey. iPad Pro I’m using to type this is 256GB and that’s not enough I realize now. 512GB should be good…if money no object though I would for sure go for 1TB.
especially if you consider it has more ram than any other prior ipad by over 50% on average. Previous regular pro had 4 gb, the high Terrabyte pro had 6gb, and not many of ipad user world have that. So programs will be written to work with 2gb spaces most likely. I bought the 1TB/16gb as I buy an electronic once every 7-8 years.
@@pickleeggs3340 well, android has very bad resource management, basically no standards for anything they put on their app store. 2 Core iphone 6 vs a 4 core +2x the ram samsung at same time, the apple was faster just because of quality control of apps and standardization. However, you are correct that 12 or 16gb ram on a cell phone is stupid. Only a Windows Phone could use the ram, modern cell phones still use twit-oriented programs that run one at a time, like insta-moron, or snap-lame etc. They refuse to make a windowed desktop system with quadrants of programs running on the screen by default. Corporate and marketing control. 6 gb is enough for a phone.
To me more ram is better. You want apps to close in the background to free up more ram. I have 6GB ram and I have to sometimes manually close apps because things start freezing up.
Legend! Been stressing about spending an extra $750 to get 16gb of RAM and useless storage. This sold me on the base (8gb RAM) version especially when I don’t use demanding apps. People say they want to future proof their device with the 16gb but chances are that 8gb will be more than enough for another 4-5 years easily (my 2017 v2 with 4gb of RAM is still going strong) And you’re better off saving that $750 (70% the cost of the base model!!) to upgrade to a newer version with more features and power sooner in the future.
Could it be that iPadOS isn’t optimized for 16GB … yet?? I could just be wishing this is the case as I bought an 11” 1TB just for 16GB RAM. Before buying, I actually was thinking 12.9” 512GB or 11” 1TB.
I bought the 16gb version just for watching movies and web browsing 😂😂 i wanted the mini led display strictly for movies but I have no reason for wanting the 16gb of ram
And here you are, providing answers to the REAL questions. Unless I was working with files over 1TB, I'd go with the 1TB model. I have a full 10G setup in my office (2 gaming/utility PCs (currently doing lots of MakeMKV and Handbrake work) and a Threadripper as a hypervisor. And a NAS for Plex and for files etc (a good one), and another for read only backup. Depending on what happens at WWDC I'll get one if I have a use case for it, otherwise I'll continue using my '18 12.9" iPad Pro. If the current iPad Pro had TWO thunderbolt/USB 4 ports on separate busses, I would have bought it already.
Probably the ram is made for pro users using heavy apps For example I’m a music producer so more ram means I can have more Plug ins and audio units loaded in real time on GarageBand or cubasis 3 ( or maybe even Logic Pro if apple releases it)
Agreed these tests are a bit silly, he should have loaded ram hungry audio apps that run samplers and synths using AUM or another DAW and see how many can load before it chokes the iPad. My 2018 iPad Pro can only run 6 to 8 synths in AUM max due to memory limits of 4 gigs. He should have also used a ram utility to show how much ram was actually being used as he loaded more apps. Audio pros will no doubt want 16 gigs
@@MacSoundSolutions exactly , the ram upgrade it’s not meant for opening apps faster or having too much tabs on safari, it’s for apps that get limited on ram instead of cpu power (like DAWs for example... you can record as many tracks as your ram lets you) When I was watching the video I thought “maybe I don’t need the 16model”. But then I remembered I use my iPad for Music production hahahah
To me it’s telling that the RAM is only upgraded along with the storage. That likely means the extra RAM serves as a disk cache for heavy I/O rather than usable memory for programs.
@@VictorIbelles I am going to wait and see what IOS15 brings to the table and if Apple is launching Logic and Final Cut Pro for iPad Pro, my guess is if they do they will say the apps only run on M1 iPad Pros but we will find out soon enough.
When youtubers will understand the iPad Os is still limiting all the apps to 5gb ram usage???????? All those test are worthless until WWDC and IPad os 15
You completely missed the point of the tests. It’s how well do apps stay open in the background considering iOS does not use swap. So if each app used the max of 5GB the second app would already force the first once to close on the 8GB model.
@@benscherer7256 No test will be accurate until iPad OS is completely optimized for M1 meaning Ipad Os 15. As a registered developer I know a little bit more what's going on beyond simple app test and benchmarks. We keep talking after WWDC
Here in Australia if you want 16GB it will set you back A$2949 with cellular. I settled with 8GB with 512GB with cellular A$2349. So thanking for comparing 8GB with 16GB, at least I know that it’s not a huge performance gape. Now I waiting for Apple to release Final Cut Pro for iPadOS, hopefully.
So yeah actually the 8 GB version has great RAM management. I just bought me a 2022 iPad Pro 12.9" with the M2 chip (I bought the 256 GB model because the SSD speed is way better than the 128 GB, just like the M2 MBA 512 GB is better than the 256 GB). And I find it's much faster than my old M1 in gaming (higher fps, pretty much consistently perfect frame rates) and otherwise I notice no difference! BTW that Apple Pencil Hover is super cool
I'm still waiting for some desktop apps to be released as well as procreate to recognize the chip and ram compacity before upgrading. I've been animating on the ipad and those extra layers would certainly be helpful.
I went for the 1tb model as it will be my only device and I had a MacBook Pro from 2013 and recently traded it in cause what I needed it for didn’t use Mac specific apps so I’m pretty excited about having more space :) I didn’t want cloud storage and I didn’t want to carry an external drive so I opted for the more storage space. Great to see the differences though as I really wasn’t sure what to go for.
As someone who is not techy and trying to figure out what Ipad to buy and what is worth the extra money and not - your videos are AMAZING. Thank you!!!
I use an app called Concepts, RAM plays a big role in the number of images I can put in a single file use very high resolutions, 12,000 x 7,000 pixels and more. My old iPAD (6th gen) could manage 1-2 images. My new iPAD pro (2020) with the same images can support 7-8. So, in theory, the 16 GB model might support twice that.
depends on what u use it for. I have the same unit & look forward to more RAM as my apps often swap out and tabs reload frequently (apps that have sizable DBs like Asana, Roam Research, etc). that said, I am willing to wait for pro apps (fingers crossed for Xcode) to be officially released before I take the jump!
@@PSYCHOV3N0M well, This account for fun only, i do on my second account. Recently i do a lot editing on iPad while my PC is rendering another project.
It's so hard to decide what I need. So I decide to buy my first iPad in my life and looking forward to working with DaVinci resolve. Do I need 8 GB or 16 GB. 16 GB is so so expensive.
max seriously tell me at what time you woke up. Bcz i am from asia and when in pdt it's 8am you guy just have made the video,even edit it, by the 9 am. this is insane man. you 3 are so much hard working
I love this channel so much man! I think for now, the 16GB might not be worth it, but i'm pretty sure Apple is going to announce Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X and Xcode for the iPad. And part of me also think that Adobe will be there to announce full versions of Photoshop and maybe even illustrator. They could even announce the full suit going to iPad OS giving that the whole cc suite is also on the Mac with the same M1 chip. Of course, this is a touch based device so they might announce only Photoshop and Illustrator for now (or even only Photoshop) at this moment.
it will never happen in ipad with finalcut n logic. just give up dude. it will nv u better develop ios app like final-cut for your appetite. with swift it is so easy to develop app than android studio with java
This comment made me laugh. The day Apple releases those apps for the iPad will be the day I lose my virginity. And since that's never happening, Apple will never release any of those apps for the iPad
@@Majestee.04 Well at least, that's a much better answer. But i have the same opinion. I really thought it would happen because of the RAM. I think it's so stupid to have so much RAM for... nothing!
Great video. Returning my A12Z after realizing 6GB isn’t enough for a pro device. I might settle for 8GB and upgrade to a 16GB model in the future whatever new iPad Pro gets released
I keep forgetting that you're here in Spokane Valley, so it surprises me whenever I see something local in your videos like the Valley Mall, the Spokesman Review, or the Monroe Street bridge. Keep up the good work and keep representing Spokane.
I brought my iPad 12.9 2020 cellular version in October 2020 and I totally happy with it for the next few years and no need for me to upgrade to M1 iPads 😀😀
I am really frustrated. I owned the iPad Pro 2020 11inch but sold it last year and have the MacBook Air M1, best thing ever. I also returned the iPad Pro 11inch 2021 M1. There was ZERO difference. I really, really wanted to love it so much but the software is far too limited and is holding it back way too much. I could not justify keeping that device. Such a shame, too limited. I got bored too quickly.If nothing happens at WWDC, sadly I will not buy the iPad Pro, I also never use the iPad to video call so centre stage is useless, the camera quality is not that great either. So tbh not worth the price here in the UK.
someone actually did this... Thumbs up... thank you for the video... will you by any chance be able to do an M2 test with Davinci resolve? I am curios for that. Thank you for the video
the thing is, devs barely had time to upgrade some of these stuff. Memory management is one of the main aspects of programming... And some people in comments are right, for now the main difference in performance should be on split screen view
I have an m2 ipad pro, and to me. I might think apple is trying to trick you by buying the 2 tb, and when do you buy that. It comes with 16 gb ram.. but it limits it self. And the 8 gb doesn’t. Which means 8 gb ram is wayyyyy faster.
Two brand new, or even close to new are going to run great. But then you consider other things. Like what type of apps will you want to use. Maybe video editing, music, or even development. That extra 8gb will go a long way. Especially for a longer term purchase. That’s why I bought the 1tb 16gb version.
I’m not sure what he’s trying to show by opening apps the way he does. We all know Apple takes a “snapshot” of apps, and when you tap on one it opens almost instantly. With the fast SoCs Apple has been making, most of the time, it seems as though the app was open, even though it wasn’t. So I’m not sure what this proves. He needs to take a big video file and do some real rendering. Or a big CAD file. He hasn’t done that. I ordered a 16GB model, and I’m happy about that. Even if some apps aren’t yet optimized for this processor, they will be soon. And it’s wrong to say that apps will be optimized for the 8GB model. As always, if an app has more RAM available, and the files your working on can use it, then the app will.
You should come back to run this test in another 12-18 months and see how it still performs. Apple is constantly releasing updates that cripple older hardware to get people to upgrade. I have the gen 3 ipad pro and it was smooth for over a year and a half. Then they pushed a few updates that started to cause apps to crash or shut down due to lack of memory. Everyone has seen this with their phones as well. It's basically the game they play to annoy people to upgrade hardware every two years. 8GB of RAM might be great today. However, I can almost guarantee they will release a new OS in a year or two that will consume 6GB of RAM and then leave the other apps 2GB to run on.
