Loved this GPU round up! Loved seeing the close ups and different angles of the GPUs. Much nicer than trying to look at tiny pics on websites. And nice to see a head to head between manufacturers. Thanks!
I imagine videos like these are challenging to execute but they are so crucial to making an informed purchasing decision. So, many thanks for the quality information Steve and I’m looking forward to future AIB card roundup videos.
They are so necessary not to buy a 4070, but at least youtubers can make a living by editing videos trying to look for differences of performances as difficult. Just imagine Automotive press having to review all the same engine powered cars in different editions or colors. Or Imacs, pink vs silver vs is that green?
but did you see the Jump in price on the 6750xt and the 6950xt , almost like we are heading into another price gouging market Meanwhile Direct distributors and even site sales are still Down , its Clear to see who is doing what where now
There's nothing to be said about the 7900xt. There's the budget/entry XFX speedster 310 merc and the Sapphire pulse, then you have the Asus tuf and powercolor red devil variants as mid-high tier and lastly the sapphire nitro+ as the very top of the crop.
7900 XT or XTX roundup would be nice. Also (as somebody commented earlier) 40dBa noise normalized is rather on the high side, mayby 36dBa will be good middleground - name twin power ftw 😂
40 dBA might be good if it's measured really close to the source. And Steve might simply not have a low-enough noise floor for testing 36 dBA; in GPU reviews he often says things like "barely audible over the sound of the case fans".
I love these kinds of videos when shopping for a new card. Noisier cards are a big nono for me. That said, I really would appreciate a graph of noise during stock operation just like you do with the temps. Noise normalized is all well and good but it's hard to judge the user experience from that. Keep up the good work!
This came out at the perfect time to help me pull the trigger on the right card! Thanks for including the physical specs in the video as this helped me figure out I couldn’t fit the MSI versions in my case, and so I pivoted to the rather thicker ASUS tuf oc, because I had room in that direction.
A single game benchmark that shows how little the clockspeed difference matters would have been nice, but other than that absolutely stellar format for a roundup.
I thought i entered twilight zone. I said exact same about fanboys having a Karen moment with thermal meters like 5 mins ago in a completely different 4070 review video :D
Thank you for having the chart with the length/width/height of each card, very important to us SFF builders! I was able to focus my attention on the 3 cards that would fit in my case.
My MSI 3080 Gaming X Trio i've had since Launch is still a cool, quiet beast. My next card will likely be an MSI card too - they're built like tanks and the coolers Are top notch.
Just some friendly advice though I'm sure you've heard it before, never buy a product for the brand as all brands make good and bad products. When you feel the time is right to upgrade, look at reviews and go with whatever card is the best for your budget 👍
Yeah I love my RX580 Gaming Plus too still, hitting the same 1421MHz boost clock as when I got it & so quiet while keeping it's self cool. they do a really good job with their OC Models but for some reason on MSRP ones they do cut some corners that shouldn't be cut like the VRAM Cooling on the Ventus.
excellent review m8 . when u were talkin about specs i was thinking like : man, it would be really great if he showed us a spec sheet with all the cards just for quick comparison ' and 2 minutes later, there it is . outstanding job.
Thanks for including less known/mainstream brands. There's even more of them in Europe and are cheaper than ASUS/GIGABYTE/MSI, but lack of reviews makes it hard guess if they are worth getting.
I'd be interested in seeing a similar comparison of the 4080s. According to Techpowerup's review the PNY Verto XLR8 OC runs very cool and very quiet, and it'd be interesting to see a second opinion on that, since review's are scarce for the new PNY consumer stuff.
AIBs partners reuse designs across as many GPUs as possible to reduce cost. I would be confident in just using this video as indicative relative performance for the 4080 AIB models, especially given the similarity of the 4070 and 4080.
@@michaelan9688 Thing is, this is a completely different cooler design from the 4080 and 4090 PNY models, and the 4080 is a much hotter card in general.
@@IVPixel The big reason it's interesting to me is that according to tehcpowerup it's very cool while being measurably quieter (multiple db) than many of the others, a bit like the MSI model, which is very impressive for (apparently) their first in-house designed consumer cards (not just rebranded galax), while also being a lot cheaper than the msi equivalent. However it's only one review, and it would be very interesting to see another take on it.
TBH, I'd love a like to like comparison of stagnant performance. For example So 4060->3070-2080->1080ti This certainly isn't a perfect matchup, but you get the idea. How new gen and new drivers match up against old gen and old drivers.
Love my Eagle OC card. Mine was boosting happily to 2950 out of the box. Undervolts beautifully. 4070 may have its issues (price and 12GB) but DAMN is it efficent. As someone living in the UK, power usage is a big decider for me. Upgraded from 3070 for both the little extra VRAM and lower power. Can't fault it and definetly don't regret the purchase. DLSS3 is pretty magic too.
Nice Round up ! Missed them ! Nice to see some focus on nonHalo product & power sippers - 200w ! Dream 1440p box w sub 100w cpu - can go small instead of mega tower & mega cooling .
Dude thanks for all the awesome content. I’ve had a laptop for 3 years, it’s a 7 year old design so upgrading is definitely in my future. You have a video for most things that I’ve had questions for. I appreciate the hard work.
An A770 round up would be nice as there's interesting differences with regards to memory clock speeds as you can't overclock said memory. On top of that, some of the designs available are just out there like the Acer Bifrost compared to conventional coolers. Potentially including the A750s as well to bulk out the line up would be a good idea.
@@LiLBitsDK Huh? There's 2 overall models from Intel, one with 16 GB of VRAM and another with 8. Then there's the partner models of which I think there's another 4. Acer makes one, Asrock makes another, and Gunnir makes two. I forgot about Sparkle which make another two I think. So, 8 models of the A770 in total.
Hey! The founders edition is available in my region but im confused between the founders edition and the asus dual oc, which one should I get? (Performance based)
Great video, thanks. The Asus Dual OC, and a few more basic models, has just dropped in price, as least in the UK, to £530 @Scan (FE is £570 RRP). Looks a great card for a SFF build (Ncase M1) and 1x 8pin cable helps too. Mine should arrive in a couple of days, so fingers crossed!
You should show the power limits of each model at some point in the video, as it does have an impact on performance. For example, the gaming x trio has a base power limit of 215w and can go up to 240w whereas most of the other models max out at 220w. From my testing, going from 200w to 215w on the gaming z trio has about a 5% performance increase, and going up to 240w boosts performance by over 10% which is nothing to scoff at.
I have the ASUS Dual and im very happy with it, especially that I got it a bit under the MSRP. Thermals are great ( core is maxing out at 60 and mem at 71 ), noise is very low and overall quality is very good. Coil whine is very little, can barely hear it over the case fans and I have PC on the desk.
@@ARealPainI mean, people won’t have to “spot” the difference, it will show in the FPS Counter… But I know what you mean, I’m just nitpicking and being a smartass 😅 But nonetheless, it would be neat to see the slight differences in FPS, mainly the averages and which ones sustain a higher FPS the longest. I will say though, I do like and appreciate the card’s performance testing for temps, boosting, and sound comparisons amongst their respective series. I would like to see these tests roll out shortly after the FPS review tests. Though I know, HWU and many other channels, are working hard to do those initial tests and reviews when a GPU launches and they probably do not have enough GPUs from that series’s tier to do this type of comparison right away.
As long as none of them are near thermal limit with their cooling solutions (the 4070 is not) then you just pick the one with the highest allowable power draw and then the rest is RNG binning for how far you can OC it.
perfect timing for this video, hey steve do you know anything about palit cards? 4070 palit dual is the cheapest here and looks like PNY one, maybe are they just very similar
Love the video! Quick correction, early in the video you mention the Asus dual doesnt have dual bios. Can confirm it has a quite mode switch on the top as shown next the power connector in the video. Would be cool to see how these changes effect noise adjusted results but understand that's a lot of extra work
Steve please do a 7900xt roundup as these things are falling in price. You can pick them up from £730.00 making it now one of the best price to performance gpu this generation.
All i can say is that we really live in the dark times of PC gaming, a 600$ card being just a 70 class card is crazy to me. Looks like my gtx 1070 ti will be the last Nvidia card i bought.
I did the Trio as a quick decision when spec'ing my system. so far it has delivered good framerates and a very quiet performance. Part of my decision to go 4070 was relatively low power draw, noise and that I didn't want a system that was super hot in the room.
Please do the same for 7900 XTX! There are some really good designs out there. And being that it’s sold for under $1000 now makes it a great competitor to the 4080.
If I get a chance to get the founder model of 4070 do I get it or pick the Asus Dual OC version (which is my personal fav at the moment)? Btw thanks for this video @steve.
I have the Msi RTX 4070 ventus 2x oc and I’m happy with it, the gpu is so compact it fits in the mini itx cases without problem I have it on my silverstone sg13 and I’m happy with the performance and thermals , the highest temperature I have seen is 70 Celsius and it’s quit the only problem is a little bit of coil whine you barely hear it
hey i have a question.... i had a 2080ti from gainward phoenix inside my pc ... now she died and i wana upgrade to an 4070... i read everywhere that it has a PCIE 1x8pin... is this the same as my oold 2080ti had ? just that i need to plug in only 1 of the 8pin cables ? thx in forward already =)
I only paid $449.99 plus tax for the FE 4070 from Best Buy and have been very happy with it so far. Gets plenty of fps at 1440p and stays cool and quiet. Don't see myself upgrading unless I go to 4k.
Wow. I bought mine for 550 ( still ok i think, cheapest here in germany) and im very happy. Undervolted it to 2400mhz at 105 watts. With my 5800x3d it together draws 180 watts in games 1440p. Kinda crazy. I tried 4k, still ok i guess but i oced it for that haha
@@theplayerofus319 RTX 4090 16 GB of notebooks is the same silicon and goes around 120W to 150W, at 150W you won't lose any perfromance... it's one of the most actual reason to buy an ADA card, unvdervolt and underclock to get the +100% efficiency over RTX 30 and over +50% RX 6000... I don't get why having the bios bus board, etc. it doens'n come in 16 GB though like in laptops. To me it's good enough for 4K medium/high all dy long, unless competitive games... I've seen much less powerful game or run 3d visulaization in multiview with 3, 4 or more 720p, 1080p since 15 years ago... even a VEga Ryzen laptop can show video at 8K@30, gaming a bit difficult though...
I have this MSI Gaming X Trio 4070 and it's indeed ridiculous how efficient and quiet it is. Automatic fan RPM is at 30% which is just barely above 850 RPM and it's quieter than my 140mm 700 RPM intake fans. And 30% is enough with good airflow to achive 65-70 C going full bore in any gaming scenario. It's well worth the additional price
I don't know if I'm missing something but a few of the test numbers or names seem to be swapped around? "Ventus 3X" and "Windforce OC" are swapped in the GPU temp test, and "Zotac/Ventus 3X are swapped in the Hot spot test.
gaming x has always been the best purchase since gtx900 series. it's not often the most expensive model or higher end, but always has good thermal, airflow, and silence. it's a good design cooling system.
YES! This is great. Absolutely what I needed, since im looking for a new GPU and a single pov for comparison between the GPU manufacturers is much appreciated.
Thanks for the test, right on time for my 4070 purchase. Here in Finland the cheapest 4070 is Galax/KFA2 EX Gamer at 680€ followed by Asus Dual, MSI Ventus 3X & Gigabyte Windforce at 690€. Asus' TUF is at 770€ and MSI's Gaming X Trio at 780€. No ROG Strix on sale here yet, but it will land well above 800€ which is far too much for a 4070. Seeing from your test results, the Galax 4070 seems the best pick for our prices since it was almost always on the upper half of test results, and the better cooling performance of the Gaming X Trio and the build quality of the TUF don't really justify paying 90-100€ more in my opinion, especially in this price bracket.
Maybe consider buying a KFA2 (Galax) for from some other EU country? Until today they were 600-610€ here, now it's back up to 630€. Did you buy yet or are you still looking?
@@lkz I haven't bought one yet. The Galax card is no longer the cheapest here, the Gainward 4070 Phoenix now is at 599€ but the 16-pin concerns me because of all the recent news of the 16-pin adapters melting, though idk how frequently that occurs if at all on lower power draw cards like the 4070. Unfortunately there isn't much data on Gainward/Palit cards because of them being sold almost exclusively in Europe, but at that 599€ price tag, it does seem a very compelling option. And yeah, i do want to buy from Finland to avoid any possible warranty hassles in the future. EDIT: Pulled the trigger and ordered the Galax/KFA2 EX Gamer for 680€.
@@TheMakk3 I only read it before your edits. I actually messaged here to see if buying mine for like 640 shipped or something would have helped you, since I accidentally bought too many GPUs. Anyway, using that one myself now (the KFA2), and to my disappointment it needs custom fan curves to shut up. I guess only the Asus and MSI have powerful enough cooling or good stock curves. For some reason I also thought it came with an anti sag support. If it's not held up, the fans sometimes make crazy noises at 30% here. The other GPU I bought has the crazy connector and it's really annoying. Though getting my PCIe power to reach the KFA2 was the bigger struggle in the end since it's really central on the card.
Would've been nice to have a chart of maximum power allowance/slider on each GPU. Because MSI for example hard power limits many of their models to below Nvidia Fe levels in the bios. Lower end models, like the Ventus, yes, but also some you don't expect like watercooled ones; MSI Seahawk X 3080 had less power limit than Nvidia Fe. Kinda sucks for tinkering.
Im glad with these comparisons you're not wasting time doing gaming benchmarks and putting it towards the more useful information surrounding the card itself. It means manufacturers need to focus on something other than getting the 30 second boost to run very high :P
Steve there has been reports that the MSI Ventus 2X and 3X has issues with VRM overheating. According to reports, there are no VRM cooling contact at all. Is this fake news? Or was this not measured in the hot spot readings? After so much of your earlier reporting on VRM issues with motherboards, surely you would check this? It would have been nice if you could have made comment on the reports if they are false, because this rumour is widely circulating right now.
I hope you will consider publishing the result of noise measurement also in addition to or even instead of the noise-normalized testing results. If you can perform noise normalized testing, you should be able to measure noise itself generated by each card. I think there are many viewers who would like to know the noise level of each card tested. Although noise-normalized testing might indirectly suggest the noise level of cards tested, it does not provide information on the noise level itself and cannot replace the noise measurement. We want to know how quiet GPUs tested run. Noise is the most important element in purchase decision for some users.
I picked up the Gigabyte Eagle a month ago, it offers copper heatpipes compared to the Windforce, it's a very stocky and rigid card, weight is 800gr, no coil whine, dual bios offers silent and performance, but it's just a fan curve, performance just runs the fan at 1900 rpm under load, silent at lower rpm, performance plus MSI Afterburner custom fan curve is the way to go, 1500 rpm is enough to keep the GPU at 65C (stock voltage, summer ambient temp of 30C), the GPU is already efficient, but even allows nice undervolting, stock is 200W/65C/2700GHz/1060mV, with a custom voltage curve capping at 925mV for max boost it's only 140W/55C. I'm going to save 45 EUR a year on energy, guess this 599 EUR GPU will end up being only 400 in 5 years, lol
I picked up the Gigabyte Windforce for a great price recently - less than I paid for the 5700XT that it replaces. It's a great card - small, low power, runs cool, and has pretty impressive performance for the price. 4k is no problem with DLSS scaling and frame gen. No problem with 12GB VRAM except for Cyberpunk at 4k High with RT Overdrive, but it doesn't have the grunt for that anyway.
I wish RU-vid didn't bury this video, this is the one I've been looking for, ty!!!!!! I bought an ASUs dual OC but it had issues, so I returned it. Now I need to find what to get, its looking like MSI gaming x trio it is! I really wish this was the Supers, but it should lend well enough to those.
I bought the PNY 3 fan model 4070 and have been very impressed with it after about 6 weeks. Super cool and quiet so would have been interesting to see how it compared. A$979 so at the cheaper end of the scale too
In my country 7900xt cost 37,6 % more at that point i would just buy rtx 4080. so not fair comparsion plus in europe one also need to look how much eletricy card takes.
@@Golden_AceDBD I suggest the 7900XT as it is currently cheaper (in the UK) than the 4070ti, with the performance closer to a 4080. The addition of 20GB of VRAM makes it a good (if not great) value for money option. Yes, if you can't stretch to that, then the 4070 is the best option out of the latest generation offerings. The 7900XT is a fraction over 2 slots. It's definitely no XTX, which is a clear 3 slot design.
omg ty, here in my country i was looking all prices and for some reason has a asus dual for a good price but didnt know if it's fine or not, was thinking to pair with R7 7700x, what you guys think? i acc any suggestions
You say at 2:30 that ASUS RTX 4070 Dual OC doesn't have dual BIOS but then the info sheet at 8:35 says YES on Dual BIOS. I'm confused. Which is it? Update: The conclusion says it has dual BIOS so 2 to 1, I suppose it has it :D
Is there any significant difference between the 4070 TUF Gaming and the OC version? I'm thinking of buying one them but the difference is only $500MXN, around $20USD.
It's okay. Needs to be $100 cheaper, but it's not. There's nothing better at this price point. We're far from proud of it, that much should be obvious at this point.
I noticed that the fan speed on the Ventus model is different for the GPU temp vs the hot spot temp. Is this a mistake? Swapped with zotac or windforce models?
