I would not do this, but my goodness those were great shots. Anyone saying otherwise has not tried to make shots from that distance. Two in a row is insane.
Getting into the game at that distance may not be my cup of tea but WOW! That definitely takes some marksmanship! Thank you for sharing and congratulations on your beautiful trophy!
@@jessicablomquist1285love how you only reply to the ONE comment praising you for the distance. Disgusting human you should be the next, maybe 1000 yards 😂
It is not ethical to shoot game at that distance. If the animal moves at the time of the shot wounding or missing begins. Time of flight over a second and the wind conditions can vary from the muzzle to the moose.
Doubtful he would move bud. Your correct...1.3sec through the air. He was standing and listening so I knew he wouldn't move based on body language and watching this bull for roughly 30min. High BC 285 gr bullets do very well in the wind. With this load even a 10mph unseen gust at the end of flight would not push the bullet out of the kill box. Winds were nonexistent when I took this shot. As you can see it was overcast with stable conditions. If the wind was whipping you may have 1/2 an argument but could still be accounted for pretty easy. I would have to be able to read wind within 5mph...not too tough with decent gear... I practiced at nearly 1 mile with heavy crosswinds...under different conditions and can put loads inside a 10"X10" box with a cold bore. I learned my load in the wind and what kind of performance it has. Only when you can do this consistently should you attempt 1000yds on a live animal. I get why you guys come to the "unethical"argument...but...you didn't see the first 20 chapters leading to this short video.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk I am not your bud. Do whatever you want. An animal can easily move enough in tof to make the hit outside the kill zone. It would be possible to kill a moose at 1 mile so maybe that should be next.
@@meateater1573 0 chance at a mile for me bud. Ballistics wouldn't allow for a humane kill. It would be like shooting it with a 9mm. Bud And no...like I said...he wasn't moving...bud
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk Punk. A 9mm has killed a grizzly before. A 9mm would kill a moose if you hit it in the heart. 1. Animals are animals, not expendable targets. Wounding an animal is unethical and a waste of a valuable resource. If long-range shooting is your game, why not shoot steel targets that give off a gong when you hit any part of them, and not game animals that run off and die a lingering death if you fail to hit them in the vitals? 2. Let's face it, hunters don’t have the luxury of the perfect benchrest, and having an absolutely stable rest is critical for long-range accuracy. Animals are unpredictable and they often disappear before a perfect rest can be found or made. At long-range, even the contact points of the rifle upon the rest can affect point-of-impact (POA). If the rifle wobbles just a hair, forget about hitting a heart at 800 yards, therefore, single-point rests such as shooting sticks won’t cut it. 3. Shooting game raises adrenaline levels and the heart rate of most hunters-it’s part of the fun. But when heart rate is elevated, the body changes. The pupils dilate, worsening long-range vision. The hands get clammy-minutiae movements like that of a trigger pull are tougher to control. Mainly, a heightened pulse can affect muzzle shake. If you fail to account for these variables when shooting at game, vitals will likely be missed. Target shooters often speak of long-range accuracy in terms of sheer mathematics and environmental conditions, and fail to account for this absolutely critical variable: the human condition. 4. In hunting conditions where natural terrain features such as hills, canyons, trees and mountains are present, the wind at the rifle is often different than halfway to the target, which is often different from the wind at the target. If the shooter fails to recognize and account for any of these winds, he will miss vitals. 5. What separates true snipers from long-range enthusiasts is that the former can read the wind, make the corrections and hit their target on the first shot, or from a cold bore. Recreational riflemen, however, often “walk-in” rounds to their long-range target on a range. Average riflemen can do this, because the shot’s specific conditions and its effect on the bullet are learned by trial and error, and not read beforehand. It takes snipers years of experience to read the wind accurately, so don’t think you’re ready for taking a crazy-long shot at an animal just because you began hitting the gong at 1,000 yards one day at the range after multiple shots. What’s more, group size means little for hunters. What means everything, however, is your rifle’s cold-bore Inside 400 to 500 yards, it’s not a huge deal. If you don’t know your cold-bore zero for ranges beyond that, you’re just slinging lead. 6. Hunting isn’t war. In battle, a miscalculation or shooting error often leads to a wounded enemy. In war, wounded enemies are good. But game animals aren’t our enemies. Also, consider that a 165-grain bullet from a .308 Win., for example, drops below 1,000 ft.-lbs. energy-often considered the minimum energy threshold for killing big game cleanly-at around 550 yards. At 800 yards, it’s closer to 600 ft.-lbs. A wounded animal can’t be tagged (so no money goes to conservation), it can’t provide meat and it can’t reproduce. It just suffers and dies. It’s horrible all around. 7. If you wound an animal at ultra-long-range, it’s often difficult to even locate the spot where the animal was standing when hit to begin tracking. At long-range, many times hunters think they missed the animal when in fact they hit it. This is because they were too far away to see or hear its reaction. So, considering the notable effort required in going to look for evidence of a hit, they write it off as a miss. This should turn any hunter’s stomach. Punk
Lol...im sure it has...you feel free and go after one with a 9mm if your capable...not me bud... You sound a little more informed than the average preachy jackal...not sure if you stayed up all night researching or not. 1. I am a hunter first, though, and use steel to hone and practice. I believe in the practicality of being a better shot and therfore a better hunter. Rifle and bow. While most you guys are hanging out drinking beer...I'm putting shots downrange. 2. Agreed and well said. After watching the shot placement again...what makes you think I'm shooting off sticks? I'm not shooting 150yds. Clearly...I'm shooting from a solid platform...not shooting sticks. 3. I have always gotten my adrenaline dump after the shot. Front end...strady and calm. If I'm not ready to shoot...I just don't shoot plain and simple. I know from experience when I'm ready to send it. 4. True. None were present as you can see. Reading wind is not an exact science and takes years to master. That's why you need to know the parameters of your bullet and how close you need to be on it with a given distance. Since no wind was present I only adjusted for spin drift. Even if I'm off 5mph I'm still killing that animal at that distance. 5. Agreed. I can put 3 shots inside a smart phone at this distance....with a cold bore making the first shot land perfect. What's my problem? 6. Agreed. My load at this distance is roughly 2180lbs. Plenty of energy and velocity for expansion for a humane kill. Nobody I know hunts the way you described...I'm sure they're out there...go get em. 7. I guess I still agree in principle...however as you can see...he was way out in the open with alot of glass on him. First time for me bumping into a fellow hunter who got offended at "bud". Trying to be civil in the beginning keeping it light and loose and somebody got triggered.Got some daddy issues going on or maybe your a Biden bot posing as a hunter. Could be neither and your just an ass. Either way...keep preaching to the choir bud...I think you might be changing my mind on this.
Great shot, however, questionable ethics. Wind being the biggest variable as one can’t determine wind accurately that far down range. Off by a little, even with a Lapua the animal is gut shot. This wouldn’t be posted if it was a questionable hit.
@@MrRumBacardi he hit in the lower abdomen, that's a horrible shot. You don't take shots from that distance if you aren't capable of making it a kill sho. there's dudes that can hit dinner plates at 1600m 🤦
@@fertilerevitilizer7833 Get your eyes checked bud. First shot was lung and liver...he ran a short way and started looking for a place to lay down and die. Second shot sped things up for him with a double lung. Maybe do some research on anatomy and shot placement before you run off at the mouth and weigh in on things above your level of understanding. The first shot was maybe 2inches off...still destroyed his lung and liver though.
Thank you for posting, I have a 338 Lapua and haven't taken a shot hunting yet. Awesome to see the effect on a Moose. The trails of the bullet are awesome! Nice shot!
My best friend told me he got a Lupua about 6 months ago. Last month he told me he no longer wants to hunt, it's for competition. Also says the rounds are about $14 each. Ouch.
It's a deep rabbit hole to really get the most out of that round. It's expensive and time consuming...not for everybody. Only a few guys out there that are dumb enough to keep going and keep trying. Way cheaper and easier to go to the grocery store
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk One way to say it, I prefer "you have your toys and your sandbox, I have mine." I think the food I put in my plate that I harvested, tastes a bit better. If it's all about how much you spent on it, yep - best not to get involved. The path I walk thru life does not have to be anyone else's. Enjoy yours. 😁 (Yep, this round ain't cheap. This rig ain't the common one used for daily groceries. I prefer bow and arrow for most of my groceries. Every so often, it's good to carry the loud stick and reach out far like this guy did. Just saying)
I’m sure you’ll have heard it before…..shooting distance like this for targets is one thing. For game, it’s reckless and irresponsible. Too many things can happen between the shot and impact - that’s not opinion, that’s fact. The mark of a great hunter is not over the horizon marksmanship. It’s the ability to engage game within 2-300yds and consistently deliver a one shot kill every time. You’ve obviously spent enough time at the range, and I commend you on that. It’s time to spend more time actually hunting. Don’t be lazy. Do the work. The game you hunt deserves it.
An understandable argument for sure...covers most hunters I would say...but not all. The 1% of hunters that understand fully what they are doing with their weapon are not covered in this argument. That's why it's not unlawful to hunt this way. If it did become unlawful...you might have an objective point. Until then...it's just your subjective opinion my friend...
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk I also shoot long distance, but his opinion isn't "subjective". It's rather very objective. Had the percentages been reversed, I'd agree with you but to call the one percent subjective lacks objectivity...
Only jealous "hunters" bring this argument. The freezer got filled pal. Isn't that why you go in the woods? I can just do it up close or further away than you. Put your jealousy back to bed or use it as a catalyst to try and be a better shot so you too can put meat in the freezer with any given opportunity.
@MattBlomquist-wl9kk I'd say I can shoot just fine. I'm actually an archery hunter anyway. I pull 70lbs and won't take a shot over 50 yards when hunting. Just a rule. At the kind of range in the video the margin of error is just too great to send it. That's one of God's creatures and we are fortunate enough to be able to partake in harvesting one. It's not some haji that doesn't matter if he suffers. You should at least give a bit of a shit about the animal who's life you're taking. The whole meat in the freezer argument is getting old too. None of us are far from a butcher or unable to afford to buy meat. Hunting is a choice and is sporting, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just own it. My 2 cents.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kkYour cell phone doesn't have the ability to move in the few seconds it takes for the round to arrive. Moose have legs. I guarantee for every one clean shot taken at a distance like this there are multiple bad hits that will never be recorded and shown to the world to see. Unethical to take that chance. Not even debatable.
Curious what bullet you used? I shoot a .340 Weatherby Mag which is a little more efficient and a lot cheaper to shoot with factory ammo but I want to load some 26gr. Long Range Accubonds. Not a shot I would take unless I had to fill my freezer but glad to know I could. Do you use an UTV to get to the animal? Any bears where you are, they hear the shot, smell the blood and get there before you do in some areas’s if your hiking to the kill.
@@Milspecpoptart I live in NH with the one of the lowest moose populations of states that have a moose hunt. Trade with you any day. 😂🤣 NH is only issuing 37 permits state wide.
I don't the distance, but my longest shot at a moose I caught. The moose completely disappeared on my front sight. (I don'tuse scopes, complete iron sights) It got hit 9 out of 11 shots(using Remington model 7600 pump action open sight & Remington 180 gr. psp bullets) I don't know the distance when the moose disappeared on my front sight. & only 1 time too I caught a caribou running full speed at approximately 500 yards. Never shot like that again since those times. Good hunting memories here in southwestern Alaska.
No need to take long shots on rutting bulls. They probably could have grunted their way into a 30 yard shot and not wasted that front shoulder meat if they knew what they were doing.
Ok little buddy...I have a question So where do you shoot him at 30yds if not the shoulder? The guts? And ruin more meat? The destruction you would get shooting at 30yds is way worse than the destruction at 960yds little buddy! Thats becaiuse of something called ballistics! The closer you are...the more power the bullet has!!! Isn't that neat little buddy? You blow really big holes when you're up close and small holes when your further away! You should read up on it before commenting about something you have never thought about before. We didn't actually lose anything from the shot. The bullet expanded and stopped inside his body. Just a little entry hole and nothing more.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk I also find your condescending tone hilarious. You’re telling me that Bull limped in his front leg and needed a second shot and that you didn’t wipe out and of that front shoulder meat? I’ve snuck them between the brisket and the front shoulder before without ruining any meat, but that’s not what it looks like happened here. But whatever dude, tell a 3rd generation Alaskan whose family shoots three to four trophy class moose every year how to hunt moose. Haha.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk well, if you snuck it in there from that distance it’s an even more incredible shot than it was to begin with. But I still stand by my opinion that it’s totally unnecessary when hunting moose. I know people like to do it and I know that a lot of those people don’t talk about the ones they don’t recover.
All these people complaining lol a tag is a tag. Here in the coast range of oregon bow hunters are the most unethical hunters. We find dead elk not recovered several times a year. Its pathetic!
No denying the ability of a 338 to reach out and touch a huge moose at almost 1000yds. But sadly, this is not hunting, at least not anything I would call a hunt.
Maybe someday you will understand the universal definition of the word hunting and not just your own! Hunting is about filling the freezer and enjoying the outdoors.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kkIt's also about taking an ethical shot. This moose died quick enough, but what about the next one that moves within the couple seconds it takes for the round to hit at that distance? Hunting is about being intelligent. A multiple second delay between firing and the round hitting is not intelligent. Bows don't even have a multi-second delay. This is lazy and stupid, imo.
@@DroopyWorm Point taken... TOF was 1.065 seconds Hardly a multi second delay. Watch his body language...he was listening intently...wasn't moving. I watched this bull and called to him for over an hour...he was coming in but wouldn't be in till after dark...he was well within my range so I took him. You guys only got to see the last 1:48 of that hunt. There are many chapters in that story...maybe shouldn't judge the chapters leading up to the last one if you haven't read them. Just saying. imo
@DroopyWorm lol he hunted a moose and got it... that's all that matters. How about this I consider you unethical for using a bow a real hunter goes out with a sharpened pointy stick. Oh actually let me take that back a "real hunter " uses a rock to smack the moose everything else is lazy and dishonorable... as long as he used every usable part of the moose and not just the antlers I'm good with it.
🗣Congrats on an awesome hunt and markman’s ship. 🤠SEMPER FI 🇺🇸( honestly, the quality of the video 🎥 looks like it 96 yards not 960 yards). But, you don’t see bullet VAPOR TRAILS and the arch of the round at 96 yards either. 😎
as far as distance goes..i def not approving this in any way, you can call this perfect shots but they are based on 50/50 factor, anyone with years of hunting experience will say that, killing an animal is taking a life from him, and this must be done in quickest way possible with as low as possible risk of missing of what you actually trying to hit... moose is a big animal ,obviously third of its body is lungs alone so you can say its hard to miss, but let me tell you hitting a large bug on the way of those 960 yards can change its way drastically, so lets not chase the records and just respect of whats out there for us
He just wants to show you his shot. Although he should, he doesn't care about replying...Shoot your gun and enjoy it. Bragging about the distance isn't the sign of a hunter.
Savage 110BA Nightforce NXS 5.5x22 Lots of practice and work on the load....as I'm sure you know... Alot of people don't understand this kind of shooting and probably don't have the persistence need to reach out that far and accurately and humanly kill. It takes real work. Appreciate your interest.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk there’s always haters. No matter if you hunt with air rifle,archery ,muzzle loader,modern rifle or longe range gun. My hat is off to all hunters no matter what they shoot. Putting animals down ethically ,putting meat on the table,enjoying the outdoors and family. Range, dial,and send it!
How do you keep your scope attached? Having trouble with our .338 and scope getting loose every 10 shots. trying blue threadlock now. @@MattBlomquist-wl9kk
Oh ok... Who died and gave you the right to dictate that? In my opinion hunting is about filling the freezer... The difference between me and you is my kill radius is wider than yours...therefore I'm going to be more prepared when an opportunity presents itself...at longer distances than you. Doesn't make your style any more virtuous.
They never have an idea/chance...if you want to be successful as a hunter! If you let them know you are there...whether at 20yds or 1000yds...they will run away. So I guess I don't know what you are even talking about! Even at 200yds you need to be quiet...downwind..etc and not let him know you are there. In other words...if your a good hunter...you never give them a FAIR chance. It would mean showing yourself and running the animal off. It would mean shooting at a running animal and therefore make it impossible or unethical to shoot.It would mean going home empty handed more than likely...and make you a terrible unsuccessful hunter! I swear you people don't think before you weigh in and make fools of yourselves. Hunting with modern equipment is never fair to the quarry. It's that way for a reason.
Isn't it funny that it's always the guys complaining about long range hunting who haven't invested the incredible amount of time to learn long range ballistics, wind calling, mirage reading, bullet drops, interior, exterior and terminal ballistics, precision reloading, painstakingly accurate load development not to mention the incredible amount of money spent on good gear, custom builds, top quality optics such as spotters binos and scopes, lapua brass, good dies, presses, many range days conducting trial and error testing with powder and bullet combos, ballistics solvers, laser range finders, bag, bipod, dope log books, etc. I think the real problem with these guys who are complaining isn't about the actual long range hunting, it's about their own jealousy of not having the time, resources or money, or a combination of all 3 to do it themselves so they take a notch out of someone's else's passion, hobby, efforts and successes to try to compensate for their lack of ability(s) to do it themselves. All hunters and gun owners should be in this together, not casting stones at eachothers methods. By the OP's logic then only a true hunters should be wearingtaw hide mukluks, fur hides and using a flint knapped sinu bound spear head on a stick to hunt. Stop making a fool out of yourself by trying to downplay others' successes because of your lack thereof
Killing is part of hunting... Hunting isnt relegated to waiting for a deer to be 3ft away so you can just assasinate it with a headshot from your flintlock. Practice more and increase your physical capabilities.
I don’t see anything inhumane about it. I load 300 bergers for my lapua, chronograph at around 2750 FPS. Still over 2000 lbs of energy at that distance. 6.5 creedmoor with 140’s doesn’t have that at 100 yards. 7mm rem mag 162’s is around that at 400. Well done.. if it was a gut shot I wouldn’t be saying that but if you know your set up your probably better at 1000 yards than a lot would be at 200
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk well sorry I hit a nerve but I'm personally all about ethical shots,sorry but when your out that far ethical shots are cut in half if not more Matt.
@BrianHackl-cj1yk Maybe for you and your setup/ability it's unethical. You can't foist that on me and others who do have the ability and hardware to be ethical at this distance. Stay in your own lane bud. If you want to hunt at 300yds because you don't want to learn how to go further...then do you. Leave the guys who have the hardware and ability to shoot ethically at further distances alone...or better yet...join us down this rabbit hole. All you need to do is open that pocket book up for 5k minimum...get some training in...and you too can shoot this far ethically.
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk look Matt not here to keyboard fight with you . I've been hunting since the 80s my set up in hunting has ranged widely short to long and back to spot and stalk ,literally 10s of thousands spent over the years,I'm not bragging this is my poison, sorry I offended you or rubbed you the wrong way.go luck hunting.
@@Hackmo72 Respect for your class my friend. Most of the naysayers out here don't know what it means to respect those who disagree. I do appreciate it and good luck to you and your endeavors.
Is it cultural difference or what but I do not understand this cheering like maniacs related to hunting? We kill an animal, show some respect. You can congratulate the shooter, but hunting is different from scoring a goal in game.
I have nothing bad to say about the skill used here but that is not hunting it is killing hats off great shots, but no skillz hunting you could have gotten closer and made it a great stalk.....
These comments are examples of why the Anti gun crowd is winning. We attack each other with hate over opinions like ethical shots. When to take a shot is up to the individual so stfu and use your rules to guide your hunting not criticizing others.
SO CALLED "Hunters" on here who repremand other SKILLED hunters makes me sick. Hunters vs Hunters pisses me off. Just like your supposedly sick over seeing someone place not only ONE precise shot at long distance BUT, two! And this whole analogy of, "SNEAKING UP SO CLOSE YOU CAN SMELL THE ANIMAL and MAKING AN ETHICAL KILL" also peeves me to no end. ITS OLD LOGIC, OLD MEN!!! Get with the times. Better equipment like scopes, gunpowder, bullets, rangefinders, ballistic apps and tons of practice is what makes this ETHICAL! They didn't have all this tech back in the 1930's, the 50's, the 70's, the 90's and before which is were this old logic comes from. Or from guys who bow hunt and love to tell you, "the closer you get, the better". Bow Hunters get so egotistical when they tell stories of "i was so close to the deer, i could have pulled ticks off his hide"! Good for you, that's just one way to kill and I guarantee ya, your deer ran at least 50 yrds before it crashed! KEEP YA'LLs HUNTING BELIEFS TO YOURSELVES! Its illogical to talk about "bad ethics" when someone CLEANLY took an animal. Great shots on the moose! LOVED IT!
"SO CALLED HUNTERS"...bullshit!. I've been hunting big game before most folks on this page were sperm. That was a nice shot for sure. The problem is a lot folks who take those shots don't pull it off and the animal ends up wounded, gut shot or worse. If you think todays firearms, scopes, range finders, etc are going to bail you out you're wrong. Talk to some of Africa's PH or pro guides in Alaska and elsewhere. Most folks they take out on a hunt couldn't hit a barn door at 500 yards. But they show up with the latest caliber and start launching shots. I'm a pretty damn good shot and load my own so I know where they print. I wouldn't have taken that shot. Everyone can do what they want but sooner or later you're going to wound animals if you keep it up. Learn to hunt first. For Christ sake it's a moose not a Antelope or Bighorn. If you take your time you can walk to within 100 yards before they get suspicious. Move in as close as you can before taking a shot next time.
There's all kinds of folks calling themselves "Hunters". Means nothing. This excessive long range BS is no better than Uncle Bob emptying a lever action 30-30 at 50 yards on a deer drive and gut shooting his deer. Hunters need to police their own,,, and this isn't hunting. How many Videos have you seen posted where these shots are misses or worse yet the animal is clearly wounded and never found? I'll answer that for you,,, NONE. They harvested this animal and it was a quick kill but I'll argue all day that this is the exception. Then you get Uncle Bob watching these videos and attempting the same thing with zero chance of success.
It's not fair to the animal or the hunter. It's not about equipment either most hunters won't train to shoot like that. How many bad shots were taken that none saw and an animal was left injured. Being ethical is the most important thing hunters have to be.
@@BasedU.S.parriot1776 the distance isnt the problem, the placement of the shots is. you dont know what ethical hunting even means? if you cannot do it quick and mostly painless you dont pull the trigger. thats ethical. of course NA doesnt care about animals per usual but here this would be animal cruelty.
@@MajorJeffersonlooked liked two shots, both in vitals.. 338 should have enough velocity even at that range to make them ethical his. Two shots and the bull was down in under a minute of the first shot. I'm not a fan of this style of hunting either but they clearly did their work, knew their round & rifle as well as their own individual shooting skill/capability. I think it was fine. Still not something I would do.
hes down with a lousy shot, his leg is broken, but they don’t come back and tell you that. Now an animal that size the real work begins, how much did they waste?
Shot 1...single lung and liver...dead moose. Shot 2...double lung...quicker death...not necessary but appropriate. I did the autopsy...not you. I saw the effectiveness of this load. It was a quick death with very little waste. Way to go commenting on something you weren't there for. How arrogant you must be to speak like that on something you have no clue about.
I don’t agree with taking such long range shots for game animals. Save that for the range. You don’t have to get yourself within touching distance, but there’s no way I can find this distance to be ethical at all. No fair chase, the Moose has no chance or advantage here. The whole point of hunting is to include the “predator vs prey” aspect, and that’s just left out here.
@@jonathanmiller3613 what’s asinine about it? Back yourself up here. I may very well buy a muzzleloader simply to limit my range so I don’t ever slip up and make a bad shot. Thanks for the idea.
@@jonathanmiller3613 all you prove with a shot like this is that you can shoot quite a distance. There is no reason to test your shooting skills on live game. Paper targets are for testing your shooting skills. Hunting is for testing every other skill like being quiet and sitting patiently, tracking, wind management, luring and calling…. There’s simply none of that applied when you pull up on a hill in your 4x4, lie down and put your 6-foot long tactical rifle on a sandbag and plug a clueless game animal from 1,000 yards and then drive right to him and throw him in the back.
All I'm hearing I think is some maybe some jealousy mixed with a lack of empathy and understanding. Whether you shoot an animal at 300 or 1000...you are by definition hunting. Had that animal popped out at 50 I would have shot him...i think most guys would. In either case the freezer got filled. The question is can a person do it with precision and not just wound an animal. I get plenty of bow hunts throughout the year and I think frankly that anybody who uses a firearm has an unfair advantage on their quarry. When your hunting with any weapon, my philosophy is simple... Practice as far as you can to find your outer personal limits. Mine happens to be 1500yds with a rifle and 140 with a bow. Peel back some yardage, and that's the distance you will be confident in while hunting. My max bow range might be 80-90 based on the situation and animal. Your way of hunting is understandable, but by no means do you get to decide if mine is out of line. I guarantee you...if you had the hardware and the ability and confidence... you would have squeezed one off too if you were given the same opportunity. The problem is...not many people have the ability or the stubborn nature needed to be proficient at that distance. It takes alot of work and sacrifice to be a good shot out that far...years of work as a shooter. For your average weekend warrior...it's probably not going to happen in their lifetime.
To all great "moral" and "ethical" hunters who want to stand on a pedestal and brow beat this shot. Here is something about humans. We are all created with different capacities. We live within a hierarchy of skill and competence. You are all essentially infantrymen speaking about the parameters that the marksman should play within. If you cant personally make the shot, doesn't mean its unethical for the competent shooter. Its like a running back telling the quarterback how to throw the ball.
Bullshit. It's unethical because the delay between the trigger break and bullet impact is so long that the animal can easily move enough to make it a long, agonizing death instead of a clean kill; in the 3 seconds time-of-flight (during which the shooter has no control over what happens), the animal can easily move far enough to make it an outright clean miss. And at that distance, the retained energy on the bullet is about what a .44 magnum has at 25m; it's really not enough energy for reliable expansion. I'm a long-range marksmanship competitor; I can easily make that shot... but still know it would be unethical to choose to take that shot on a game animal.
@bronco5334 you sound like a liberal. If you are worried about the pain a animal will suffer in death I reccomend feeding birds. Seriously. You trying to tell me anyone who doesn't administer a kill shot immediately are "unethical"? if that's the case, all hunters and hunting should be banished according to your logic. The shots were well placed. The moose died almost immediately. If one has to track a deers blood trail over the course of miles is that not unethical?(according to your logic) The deer is in pain. FOR MILES. you are a soft body.
@bronco5334 We had 2361ft lbs of energy and over 1900 fps at point of impact. Plenty of energy for expansion. Flight time was 1.065 seconds on a bull that was stock still and listening. The energy and velocity hit like a .308 at 100 yds. Are you saying it's unethical to shoot large game animals with a .308 at 100 yds? Good luck with that argument. People have been doing it forever at further distances than 100yds pal. You were way off on your TOF. Makes me question your assertion that your a long range shooter. What are you shooting? A pellet gun?
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk Now, since you want to (fail) to call out my understanding of ballistics: I'm curious what magical bullet you used that gave you the speed and energy at 960yd you claim. Because those numbers don't jive. I'll grant you my estimate of TOF was a rough estimate; without knowing at least BC, MV, and density altitude, I can't CALCULATE it, so I just "one-potato'd" it from the video. But since you have cited your impact data, I want to see you back it up with a real cartridge. And I don't think you can. Because even the best BC, solid copper bullets in .338 don't make the numbers you're claiming. A Barnes 210 TTSX-BT can only be pushed to 3211fps at the muzzle, and that will degrade to 1577fps and 1160 ft-lb by 950 yards. To retain your claimed 1900fps residual, you'd either have to push the bullet EVEN FASTER (can't be done, this is already a compressed load), use a lighter bullet with better BC (unlikely; the all-copper bullets give better BC than lead-core at same weight, so going lighter is just going to reduce BC), or a heavier bullet with a disproportionately superior BC (again, unlikely). At the LIGHT end of the spectrum, there's the 160gn TTSX flat-base. Screams out the muzzle at 3694fps, but at 950 yards, is only 1363fps and 623 ft-lb Slightly heavier, better BC, there is the 185 TTSX-BT, which can be pushed to 3431fps at the muzzle, but retains only 1363fps and 660 ft-lb at 950 yards At a heavier weight, the 250gn LRX-BT has an excellent 0.602 BC, and can be loaded up to 2897 fps. This will retain 1625 fps and 1465 ft-lb at 950 yards Or you could go with something really heavy, like the 280gn LRX, with 0.667 BC. Nice slippery bullet, good velocity retention. Cartridge can push it 2702fps at max load. This is your best bet for extreme long range. ...but it only gives you 1588fps and 1567 ft-lb retained at 950 yards. So, hey, just what magical bullet are you using that is retaining "2361ft lbs of energy and over 1900 fps" at 960 yards? Because according to the loading data and ballistics calculators, you're claiming 150% of the best possible retained energy, and 120% of the best possible retained velocity that any .338 LM cartridge can turn in. I'm curious what altitude you were at, that air resistance would be so much lower than standard calculated values.
@@bronco5334 Previous info I gave was for 860yd...not 960yd...my bad. Recalculating... Magic bullet is a 285gr ELDM Hornady BC .829 Muzzle velocity at 2760 Roughly 1000ft elevation 45-50 deg F Calculation says... TOF 1.2sec 1815fps 2084 ft lbs Still plenty of power to stuff any unethical...underpowered talk.
This shows who knows there equipment ,and rifles ability. Those were not just 2 random shots. Those were precise placed shots. Congrats. ! Why get equipment that is capable of this range of shooting and only be able to use on the range? That is why you get to know your equipment capability. Is so you can make those precise shots.
I don't agree shooting so far I mean it's nice to get out and every bull or calf I put down never farther then 300 yards but different type of terrain but nice bull I love the nice tender young ones
You're giving a good argument, but you are incorrect. A hunter gives fair chase, so animals can escape. That why they call it hunting. You get close to the prey, then take it. It give you both the chance of filling a tag of hanging it on the wall. I've had many chances for long shots and can hit my target, BUT I like to give the animal a chance and have not filled my tag some years because of it.
Something just doesnt add up here. Someone effectively takes an animal at a range outside the abilities of most and folks get all up in arms about it. But someone getting close to alert the animal before shooting which can easily create a bad situation is just fine and somehow morally superior?
@NorthRiverGuide It will never make sense to me either. These jealous people following their feelings don't actually think about what they are saying. They arrogantly think that because they don't have the ability or hardware that nobody else should. It's just ignorance and arrogance at its finest. It does serve for a good laugh at times though.
So many "hunters" say that its not about killing or for sport, its about feeding your family. Here is somone who didn't need the "thrill" of getting in close to do just that. He took 2 shots and the animal went down enough said.
Very nice! Thank you for posting this. What was the type of bullet and load? Due to the incredible camera work, I was able to pause the video - It looks to me like a 250 gr Nosler Partition - would that be correct?
@@tmcorey1 I can too..in fact that's what I normally do...99% of the time. Difference is I have the ability to do both and fill my freezer no matter the circumstances...like a REAL man
@@MattBlomquist-wl9kk only a lazy-ass shoots an animal from that far away, risking injuring an animal unnecessarily, then laughs about it. That’s not hunting. Wrap it around whatever bullshit you want to.
And don't you dare laugh when it finally comes together. Just stay completely stoic during your adrenaline dump. Only real hunters don't get adrenaline after a clean kill. Real hunters get crocodile tears and virtue signal to complete strangers on RU-vid. Give me a break. Bunch of sissy so called men who are more fragile than most woman.
I wonder, did he make the shot to eat, or was it for a head on a wall & or "bragging rights"? One is acceptable, and the other reckless, wasteful, disgraceful.
Bunch of jealous people trying to put this video down. Great shooting and some people need to relax, not every hunter is a phony prayer saying, crocodile teared eye poser. Laughing is absolutely fine in my opinion 👍
Here is what I would ask these people to try if they dare take a challenge. 1. Get an out of state tag where you pay non refundable money and only have about a 4%-5% chance of drawing. 2. Research your quarry and figure out how rare the animal is that needs to be legal to take. This bull had to be 50" wide or 4 brow tines on 1 side. 3. Understand you need to be proficient at any distance in this ground. These animals aren't everywhere and could pop out for just a short time. You need to make the most of it. 4. Develop a load you can trust. This will cost your pocketbook and your marriage if you have a significant other. It's a deep dark rabbit hole that will rob your checking and your time. 5. Practice practice practice. When the moment comes you need to be confident in your ability. Shoot out to 1500yds if you want to be proficient at 1000yds. It needs to be subconscious and reactive. You won't have a clear head when the moment comes so your body needs to know what to do when you can't think strait. 6. Apparently when it does come together by some miracle...remain as stoic as possible. No high fives or laughter. You wouldn't want some ignorant jackal to miss interpret your laughter as disrespect instead of adrenaline, disbeleif, and relief it was a good ethical shot from a ridiculous extreme distance. I bet anyone who has the guts and backbone to accomplish this kind of shooting...in this ground...under these circumstances...will squeal like a school girl when it comes together finally after all the hard work and obstacles. Good luck and I tip my hat to those supporting this video. Thanks for your interest.
As a Hunter myself, and been with "young" Hunters, that is more a NERVOUS laugh than a "funny/joke" laugh! A nervous laugh of relieve and I can vouch that the Hunter did "shed a tear" of relieve aswell!!!
