97 F250 460 Headers install overview nice rumble 

+Joeand19 glad you liked it!!

+Brian Perry great!

Sure thing..My son just picked up a really cool Van.. Not really covered on this channel but I mention it in this video HERE -- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S0FGJLcIN8c.html

Thanks for the look at your son's van... nice. They're great for stay overs and weekend get away's

Rick Willey Thanks.. make sure you subscribe because I'm getting ready to pull those headers off and put on the Banks stainless long tube headers.

I just bought a 91. Can't wait to play with it!

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Well hello neighbor! Small world. The old F150 is a great truck but it is time to change. If I wasn't doing all the towing that I am I would love to keep the f150. I am going to miss the smooth ride and more importantly the 17 mpg hwy. I just installed a new hitch on the new truck so keep an eye out for that video once I get time to edit. You know how it is this time of year in Ohio... The last few warm days you try to squeeze in all the outdoor repairs you can! The F250 I bought from a guy in North Canton when I was asking about the previous owner he said it was a guy in Malvern.. Come to find out I had saved the truck on my Craigslist app in favorites a year ago but before I could get the scratch together he sold it to the guy I was buying it from.. Must have been fate.. Thanks for watching..

PS : I shopped L&L back in 1992 and their engine swap kits are top notch..

Do you mean Hooker Super Comps? I used Hedman HTC long tubes on my 95 F150 2wd 302 I had to notch that truck too..

+Foxboss9 , yes sir I was thinking of the Hedmans on my old 360 Dodge. I did not install the Hookers but I believe they were short tube on the Ford, my mistake.

Foxboss9 That's cool man I have a 96 Ford F150 with 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 with 203,501 miles on it and it's still going strong. The only thing I replaced on my truck was the starter but other than that mostly was just simple maintenance and cleaned out the transmission fluid just to get rid of the shuttering it was making and it hasn't had a problem ever since.

Yes.... There will always be a difference between long and short tube primary headers..... I should have bought the Banks originally..... The quality and performance difference is worth the price difference

Foxboss9 I truly appreciate your respected response. Your videos are very helpful.

97 HD 8800GVW models came with bumper grille

Yeah but isnt that only a temporary fix.?

@@alec4453 no it pretty much works like a tuner chip accept with this system it gives this pcm the readings it would normally get from the smog system so you get better fuel economy and you don’t have to run a smog system that really doesn’t do much to begin with

@@timturk6003 ive been reading there info on the efi guys website and i copied this " These diagnostic isolators are designed to temporarily separate the SMOG, EGR, and corresponding vacuum sensors from the ECU so you can easily isolate a sensor issue. " Im really wanting to delete the smog off my 97 460 truck, was gonna order this but after reading that it doesnt sound like a permanent solution.

Used bolts that came with headers....Tighten the inside bolts first...have to use a wrench only,,, I have changed many,many headers over the years so it doesnt seem as hard as the first time I had to do it.. Take your time...patience is your best tool

Foxboss9 awesome I'll try that thanks for the reply and the good videos

Make sure that your high-flow cats do not require air injection. A lot of them do not require air injection. Basically, what the factory catalytic converters require is that are blow on them from the air pump to keep them burning hot. As far as back pressure being needed, that's an awful long truck with a lot of tube and offers pretty much all the back pressure necessary. But there are a lot of people that run high flow cats however I don't like the extra expense. You can block off your air tubes just bypass your air pump so that you're not pumping air into a blocked hose and wasting a little bit of horsepower doing so. I wasn't a big fan of dual exhaust without having a crossover pipe close to the header collectors I always hated the way they make a cracking sound and the Scavenging effect of having a x pipe helps considerably. Thanks for watching! And yeah I missed the truck to as far as getting to work on something easy.

Tim Titus I always go with Header Mfgs recommendations.. I've run double gaskets on thin flange headers(blackjack, cyclone, flowtech etc..) But the flanges on the Hedmans are thick enough for singles and in the case of Doug Thorley and Banks they recommend no gasket at all on the 460 applications because just like the factory exhaust manifolds they need the exhaust to be able to transfer heat into the head so that the water jackets can keep exhaust temperatures in check.. This is because of the direct air injection from the air pump is making the exhaust run really hot for a cleaner burn for the one catalytic system in turn allowing the O2 sensor to read a leaner air charge running over it..

Foxboss9 early efi engine needs tweek on input from o2 or unass early system for WELL-TUNED carbureted intake induction system

Foxboss9 you must always do your homework with fuel injection!!! earyIer Ford efi sucks major man

Tim Titus Even with a MAF conversion, Banks still recommends no gaskets to be run with their headers. With the air pump connected, the heat that is being generated, has to be controlled by metal transfer with the head and maximum direct contact area, for that reason exhaust gaskets should be used only if the Mfg recommends them.. The whole air injection thing on these 460s was sort of a debacle. that's why sooo many factory manifolds crack/break/leak.. it's just too much heat. I fortunately don't have emmision testing..

Tim Titus as far as early EFI it only sucks if you don't understand it's natural limitations and know how to modify it.. It's funny but that's what everyone used to say about carburetors when they couldn't tune them..

The Previous Owner did that.. The problem was the pipe fitting he used is much more restrictive that the factory one. So, to save $ and time I used a drill and deburring tool and open the pipe fitting to a larger size, more comparable to the factory hole opening.. Does it make a difference? probably not. But for piece of mind, it was worth the effort..

+Foxboss9 most definitely I just went down to ace hardware and bought a 3/4 elbow and a 3/4 to 3/8 tapered fitting

Tim Pope there are no aluminum head 460s from the factory. They are very very very heavy cast iron. I have zero requirements from the state of Ohio as far as vehicle inspections. As long as the car can drive down the road it's good as far as Ohio is concerned. The exhaust leak is annoying I really enjoyed having these headers on my truck but if you check out my other video I did convert over to the banks long tube stainless steel headers and I'll have to say they are well worth the extra money. The quality is incredible. Glad you enjoy the videos. I haven't been posting any on the truck because it's been doing a good job and nothing has been breaking down knock on wood. Lol thanks for watching!

Thanks for the reply, I will definitely check out those other videos and thanks for taking the time to make these informative videos they are a great help !!

No, it was for one of the Primaries..

+Foxboss9 oh ok thanks for the quick response 👍

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Melvin no worries at all. It's just that they are better at shedding Heat then the old manifolds were. Whatever you do, do not put exhaust wrap around them. Within a short amount of time those things will deteriorate underneath that rap because they cannot handle that kind of heat being kept on them

All the vacuum lines are diagrammed on a decal on the hood...If you dont have that decal look for another truck like yours to take a pic of it or look in Google images ,someone may have posted one.

Jeff G well even though I didn't have a problem with my Hedman header install on the F-250 I expected it fully I just got lucky. My F-150 head bolts break. Then in this video link from my other channel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dCEd0t-XMZM.html I had the header bolt break. Now the headers will come with bolts but you may have to reuse some of your longer ones for some brackets and retainers like the oil dipstick. If you still have your air pump on your 460 you may want to listen closely about running gaskets with your headers. The Hedman headers flange is thin enough that it's recommended to run a gasket however if you run an air pump it will heat up the exhaust greatly and potentially blow out the gasket due to the fact the heat cannot transfer from the exhaust back to the Head where it would get cool. Now in the video that I just linked when I installed the Banks exhaust system, which I highly highly recommend oh, did I say highly? Those did not require any gaskets because the flange is so thick and the quality of the exhaust is so much better but they're also so much more expensive., in short if you're running the Hedman headers definitely use good quality gaskets you'll have to retorque them a few times and expect bolts to be broken when you're pulling off your manifolds. The Hedman headers are decent but the banks headers are far far better. And you do not have to run gaskets with those.

Thank You! I was afraid of that I just took the dog house off to get a better look and the weird thing is the noise is very non specific I assumed from outside it was on the passenger side almost sounds like A valve tick or maybe the fuel injectors? but I get up close to the passenger valve cover I hear nothing and the sound goes away entirely after it gets up to running temperature. I am going to get underneath to be sure its not the collector donut . Anything else that you know of that makes A Click click click noise? Regulator maybe? I have not worked on many Fords so I am orienting myself. I did find some old mouse poop around the rear of the intake nothing looks chewed on no electrical faults and none inside the Motorhome I got it used so I am going over everything it has 90k miles it was an older guys rig kept pretty good repair records but they date back to 2006 and stop. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS THANKS FOR THE HELP! The banks set up sounds cool this is the EFI with Overdrive its getting really good gas mileage compared to the older 1989 we had but I am hoping for more it had A huge exhaust system choking it out all the way over the axle then reduced even more into single inlet muffler to out 2 1/4 twin outlets this is a 28 foot class C Motorhome so its big but now I have the Flowmaster 70 3 inch coming out in front of the rear tires already sounds and feels stronger The Banks system might really get me going!

Samuel Coleman in short, leave the EGR... It is an effective way to keep cylinder efficiency at its best for the limited computing power of the speed density pcm... Even with MAF it's best left alone...

The Smog Pump was removed and a shorter belt installed... That was it... Of course all the plumbing associated with it too... Remember, no cat converter should be used if the air Pump is coming off...

Foxboss9 Awesome thank you! And if I'm dualing the exhaust after the headers, I was going to install an X pipe with an O2 sensor bung the same distance from the heads as stock. Or do I need to install two separate sensors for each side?

Samuel Coleman if yours only came with one sensor it's okay to just connect One sensor. But you need to get it as close as possible to the X so it can see exhaust gases from both banks of the engine. However with that said, I have Run Exhaust with just one sensor on one header collector and for the most part it still does a pretty good job. You won't notice any difference really.

Foxboss9 Copy that. What vacuum systems and related parts need to be left in place and capped? Sorry for all the questions.

There aren't any exhaust gaskets on the truck... Unless someone added them....

So I need to add some then as #8 cyl leaks on top

Thank you

mikey mike Bolts breaking.. yes they did.. On my 302 and 460 both... Watch my other video on long tube headers that I installed on my F150... They are really nice headers... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PtNLpX2z6jQ.html

+Rusty Nail Had to edit answer on that.. This set fits 1988-1997 F250 and F350 Auto and Manual trans. IT May work on motorhome applications but you would need to contact Hedman tech dept to verify.. If i was doing a motor home I would save up for the Banks Torque Tubes they will last forever pretty much.. Thanks for the comment and question..

thank you for the reply and the info .

johnny Ramirez Rock Solid platform.. no issues like the Triton engines had.. make sure transmission shifts right.. exhaust manifolds were a common issue.. But headers can fix all of those problems​.. drive it easy gets maybe 12mpg, mostly 10 though towing on mainly flat ground 10mpg, drive like an idiot gets about 8mpg.. repairs are CHEAP.. I say it's a pretty decent truck overall just depends on price and condition... good luck 😁

The 460 is a low torque pulling monster. Couple simple up grades will really open it up. Install a 3in exhaust, a K and N filter and headers. Once she is able to breathe right. She will pull no problems

+SuperLinkandzelda you can start with just a quality muffler and pipe replacement first like this here >>> amzn.to/1o6s1pR

+Foxboss9 thats more than I'm paying for the truck

+SuperLinkandzelda then I wouldn't mess with the exhaust because once you start yanking stuff off, unless you have a pipe bender, access to exhaust pipe cheap, and a welder it's going to be expensive trying to keep whatever you "rig up" on the vehicle and not leaking.. You can make it loud for cheap by sticking a cherry bomb on it but a "nice rumble" can be hard to get plus it cost more for that type of muffler, which would be a welded muffler like that Flowmaster exhaust has. The cheap welded muffler is what I used on my F150 (look for my "walk around"video) but that muffler is not a direct bolt-on and required welding and adapters and didn't last very long(2 years) plus I had removed the Catalytic Converters and installed long tube headers so the sound in that video won't be the same on a vehicle running otherwise stock exhaust.. You may want to find a local exhaust shop that can help you first hand with your decision, because once you start Modifying you will always have leaks and support issues unless stuff is bent, welded, routed and supported correctly.. Good luck

Yes... But not as much as the Banks long tubes.. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4q6sPcIcs6s.html

The link is in the description...

BTW... If you have large air tubes going into the back of your manifolds Then you technically have air injection...Header Air Injection just looks different as thats how they accomplish the same function..

Oh ok makes sense. Those air injection tubes on the hedders i order could i just cap them off since i dont have an air box for them to connect to.

cody williams you can.... but they are kinda difficult to work around changing plugs and wires.... plus there ugly..

Oh ok. Yea mine doesnt have either tubes on the manifolds not even in the back of the manifolds. I thought my truck was from california with cali emissions thats why they had me order those kind i guess. But thanks for the help i appreciate it. Ill probably have more questions later on. Thank you

Harry DALE II not really, I've been installing headers, on and off, over 30+ years... The trucks are always easier than most..

Foxboss9 just seen manifolds not the issue, previous owner broke head by manifolds

Harry DALE II definitely broke head bolts... Always a possibility...

Foxboss9 they broke actual head and exposed manifold bolt threads

Logan Van Buren 97 HD 8800GVW models came with bumper grille

Maybe if I was 20 and had a 500hp engine and I wasn't using the truck as a tow/work vehicle..... not sure when it changed, but there was a time you would only make a vehicle loud if it was fast. Seems these days, as it has been for the last 10 years, that people would rather just make their car loud and pretend it's fast.

@@Foxboss9 gotta live a little. just need ideas for my 460

And doing a straight pipe would make it perform better right?

Towing RV requires power... Stick with your Honda..