Browning chapter 45 verse 15 To prove unto the Heathens he was sent from H&K he turned water into acid and then with the power of Henry repeating arms produced a original 1911 and perfectly acid hardened it to perfection
@@Blackwolf-of5kxThank You Ianus Christus....Excerpt from the Reloading Bible; Book of GALIL 5-56: "...Upon the 8th day Ianus called forth to his disciples and they did gather and with ONE lone cartridge he fed all 76,239 of them, and they did eat, and they went forth out of captivity and into Elbonia for it was the promise land. There the people witnessed as Ianus laid down his arms for them and rose forth to heaven, and it was GOOD..." AMEN brother!!!👍👍😂😂
I heard a story about a man who stuck his finger in the barrel of a .45, thinking it would stop the gun from firing. He was wrong. They wound up cutting his arm off at the elbow.
What, because a Schwerer Gustav is too heavy for you to carry? Carrying a railyway gun around is a whole lot easier than being dead because you couldn't turn the bad guy into a large crater with one shell!
The sad thing is the logical conclusion of this belief is, a kid starring at a fingerless nub where his flare pistol loaded with 12ga deer slug was once clenched firmly in his hand.
I'm actually glad this company is still around, and apparently doing well. Even has like 4-5 different bullet options now for this caliber now. So... happy ending. Which is rare for this channel.
Exactly! I seen a presentation on RU-vid a while ago where a guy knew someone at the morgue and he was showing bullets that were extracted from dead people. None of them seemed to have uniform expansion like you see in ballistics gel. Some were lopsided where the pedals didn't open up due to bone and whatnot.
I'd say that's more of a problem with having the wrong kinds of ammo. I'm talking out of my ass obviously, but it seems more reasonable than anything else.
Prototyping is way different than actual mass production. Much tighter tolerances and less wear on the tooling, for starters. The guys that develop projectiles may think they have all the angles covered when they develop a new round, only for the company to tool up for production and find out the slight difference in prototype to product is quite substantial. The AK-47 is a good example of that. Took them 11 years to figure out the proper stamping process of the receivers. And that was with a much larger, easier to inspect and test product. With projectiles, figuring out exactly what's going wrong if the bullets are showing failure to expand during their intended use is way more difficult.
For reference, on their website in May 2021 Guncrafter now makes sub $2000 CZ 75s but their cheapest 1911 is $3000. Also the .50 GI ammo ranges from $2 to $3.50 per round.
Fun fact of the day that will absolutely enrage you:The calibre with the most self-defense related attacker fatalities is actually .38 calibre weapons (.380, 38 special, .357 mag, etc.) I know, I was confused as well. I'll link the study If I can find it again, it's a VERY good read.
not sure why this would be confusing since police service weapons were 38 special, .357 mag and 9mm still, and that fact also makes them common with non police (here I'm assuming that those fatalities also include police shootings) (I am also unsure whether it was just "38 calibre" meaning 38 special, .357 mag .i.e. .357 bullet diameter or if it means to include 9mm and 380 acp, i.e. .355 bullet diameter because it seems strange that you left 9mm off)
With a threaded barrel and suppressor I could see the practicality of a subsonic bullet with the same kind of muzzle energy as a smaller one going faster.
That’s wild that Zimmerman worked for Wilson Conbat for a time. My Dad is buddies with Bill Wilson via non-gun business and he’s a great dude. He flew my Pops out to his ranch a couple years ago just to hang and shoot all kinds of cool guns and play around on his giant shooting course. As a parting gift he sent my Dad home with a brand-spankin’ new custom AR in 6.5 Grendel. It’s really sick! Wish I had buddies like that!!!
@@kylewhite8434 Energy is 1/2 (Mass * Velocity^2) , so increasing mass at the expense velocity is going to drastically reduce the energy delivered. I wouldn't say there is a particular velocity required (with in reason) for penetrating something like a grizzly skull as much as a particular energy. Terminal effect in soft bodies also has a lot to do with how much and how quickly negative acceleration occurs, slow moving bullets simply won't have the same effect. Supersonic projectiles have a much greater terminal effect than similarly mass / construction subsonic projectiles.
Penetration is more a function of velocity than mass. 700 ft/sec would probably make a nice "thunk" as it bounced off the skull. Go with .454 Casull or, if you're recoil sensitive, .44 magnum 8-)
Siesta Time - Velocity is one component of good pennetration. But it's not the end all be all. Do an experiment. Set up a grizzly skull and shoot it with various standard powered full metal jacket loads. You might be surprised to find that most will zip right through it.
You would need to get somebody to make a suppressor for it then, most companies stop their pistol rated ones at 45ACP, to get into .50 caliber ones, you are looking at the ones for 50BMG and that would weigh more then the gun does and be way past overkill.
someone just came out with one for the desert eagle(though it is pretty big.) I assume it would work for this(assumming both rounds use bullets that have the same diameter.)
I thought it was interesting but I personally don't really like full length guide rods. Otherwise it is just another weird caliber 1911 to me, which isn't a bad thing. I like weird caliber 1911s.
I would venture it's one of those bowling pin and steel plate calibers rather than being a better self defense round. It will probably do great at the former and behave as Ian expects in the latter.
Fuckk Face Yeah mate of course a glock makes more sense. A glock always makes more sense. Thats why they’re so boring though. Besides in oz you’re only worried about pigs or the odd angry wombat where i am so seven should be plenty. If there was something the size of a moose that might come at me i’d defo want more like 15.
It's for the gun guy who already has one (or five) gun(s) in every other caliber and is bothered by all that money in his bank account. Perfect for someone like the Yankee Marshall, especially now that he's in his 1911 phase.
It will catch on the more people actually shoot it rather than purpose some other caliber. More bullet surface area means a loud splat/thud when it hits something. Once people witness this first hand, there's no going back to .45
@@herewardthewatchful1014 thats exactly right. However since its still in that "novelty" phase, its having a tough time breaking into the market. Unless youre a handloader. I dont think you can shoot it. I cant think of any commercial manufactuerer who makes it, but im probably wrong. I was just fortunate that a guy i used to do RSO work with let me shoot it!
@@kenibnanak5554 i have seen brass for it! I think i saw it on Grafs website. If not, check starline. I looked into conversion kits a while back, 50 GI being one. I am thinking about taking the plunge into .460 rowland or something soon. Its an awesome cartridge for sure. It recoils a hair more than a .45. But its a push sensation, not a snappy one. That and it will DEFINITELY clear your sinuses! The concussion is massive.
I own one of these in the commander size. It isn't stupid, it is pure custom goodness, it's not unnecessary if people want it, and in NO WAY is it dangerous, unless you are on the wrong end of it. Alex is a great guy. A 650 hp '70 'Cuda is "unnecessary" but I own one and drive it daily. A 1000cc sport bike is "unnecessary" but I have one. Just because some people like something, and don't like other things don't mean that other people won't find them useful or to their liking. Owning a 100 year old firearm is "unnecessary" but there are many that own them. They also make uppers for Glock 20s and 21s if you don't want to pay $3000+ for a custom 1911.
An associate of mine works for Guncraft. They have really expanded their available customization options. Oh, and for the thrifty among the gun community, they make a conversion for the large frame Glock pistols to .50GI.
This is the definition of an American gun, Immigrant goes to U.S. for sweet gun laws, gets a job, eventually moves on to make his own company and capitalises on it.
@@GogglesAreAwsome When it comes to odd rounds or calibers it's not meant to be used as a tool it's meant to be used as a dangerous toy. Though im sure a hard nosed .50 traveling at 700 fps will cause ridiculous cavitation so I'm not sure what else you would ask of it as a tool it's plenty deadly and probably similar to a hard .50 lead ball from a middling black powder load which is lethal as shit. If you hadn't noticed RIA doesn't exactly sell what I'd call every day shooters anyway so keep on with the attitude son.
SomeguynamedMatt that’s pretty much most none american guns in general, perfect example of this is the desert eagle and the UZI, the former of which I am convinced the manufacturer knew full well that his gun would be popular with Americans
Wow Jason From Guncrafter here. Love the video and the info for the most part is spot on. Great homework. We have more and much better rounds at this point and have had for some time now. From my point of view our 185gr and 230gr solid copper hollow point non-frangible rounds are some of the most devastating controllable stopping power on the market today. 185 runs at 1200 fps and the 230 is running 1000 fps. They both open over an inch and stop in the wound channel about 9 inches and 11 inches respectively. Fantastic self defense round. Again great video and thank you have a good one.
The 9 vs 45 debate rages on. But at the end of the day, it's very clear that both are very good at killing you. I think time has shown us that. And as such, I don't think you should pick your handgun exclusively based on "well this bullet that easily kills you is sliiiiightly more deadly than this other bullet that easily kills you". I'd say you should pick whichever caliber makes you happier for whatever reasons you have.
TheFriendlyHacker the 45 is better, the pistol it was created for has gone unchanged since its inception and the only way people thought to improve on it was by fusing two of them together and it’s history is a sort of ying and yang while the guns that used the 9mm are mostly yang
In a word......AWESOME! Hey Ian, I really dig what your doing here, especially in the face of all the negative juju in the media these days. These pieces you highlight are important to our history, interesting, valuable, and in some cases, works of art. Have you ever thought of doing an after auction update show? It'd be cool to see what they went for at auction or if not maybe an ertimated value of the weapon? Just a thought. Please keep cranking these videos out as they are more important today than they ever were before. Thanks for your efforts.
I'm sure you've been asked this a lot, but have you considered doing a video on the Desert Eagle? I know it's not a Forgotten Weapon but it would be awesome to hear you go through the history of it, and how it was designed etc.
One important factor neglected in the video - an average person under panic will miss more than they do in the range, and would probably appreciate more rounds in the magazine.
I have watched these videos since I was around 16 to 15 years old and it was the first time that I started to have these mechanical ideas in my especially after the pa lutty video and just recently with the Franken rifle one but sadly I don't have the technical knowledge to get it on paper or do I live in a country that welcomes such activities so I really found myself in the story about this gun
Back when I began carrying a handgun for work, as I became a police officer, I watched as other officers compared their loads and firearms. This was back in the day when the issue firearm was the Model 19 Smith and Wesson. We trained with .38 Special Wad-cutters, and carried full soft point hallow points, that is hollow-points with the lead exposed in the full .357 magnum caliber. When I had saved up enough money, I purchased an Interarms Silver Cup, which was just an old military surplus kit put together on Interarms own frame and stamped Silvercup on the side. She was a good old gal and I carried her for many years. When I watched my buddies check the expansion of their wonder 9's often they would exclaim "WOW JUST ABOUT .45 AFTER EXPANSION!" In the back of my mind I figured, I carry a .45 hardball 230 grain, I don't need to depend on it expanding to reach that magic .45 caliber. I have always maintained that fact, and I never will have to depend on modern ammo to expand to the magic .45 caliber. Now with that 50 GI the same thing holds true. Why hope for expansion to 50 caliber when you can start with 50 hardball putting 300 grain projectile into a human body should do the job, the missing extra round, probably not a problem, most gunfights are over in seconds with a few rounds expended anyhow.
50GI is spectacular on bowling pins and the large bore diameter allows for safe work using bullets much heavier than the standard 45acp can work with. Yes the gun is expensive, but in terms of quality they rival Wilson Combat or any other so called high end guns. I would encourage anybody who can afford such a will built firearm to have a look at GCI guns.
Ehh... I'd say .45 colt is a bit underpowered for its caliber, sure, it doesn't kick at all for such a bigass bullet but that tells something in and of itself.
@U Tubred Well, than a .45 colt? Well... yes, its a bit too old and short to do much, its heavy but too slow to project enough energy into the target. I'd say that comparing both calibers isn't fair, since the .45 colt hasn't been redesigned as many times as 9mm Luger ("parabellum").
@@deymargonzalez6466 Like all questions like this..... It depends. A .45 colt can be loaded to .454 Cassul (sp?) levels. You do, however, have to be careful about older firearms chambered for this cartridge(as in DON'T put one into an older gun).
@@deymargonzalez6466 Exactly. However, you'd be surprised just how many people that consider themselves knowledgeable about these matters have no understanding about this topic.
So the .50 has the same 7 rounds in the mag as a standard 1911 or do you mean 6+1? Wasn't sure since you kept saying the .50 carries less than a 1911. Unless you just had the newer 8 round .45 ACP mags on the mind during filming.
Since the military uses hardball the fancy bullet designs in 9mm pretty much means jack to them however the double stack magazines are definitely a benefit.
To roll crimp bullets you’ll need to neck this down to .475 or .452 and tune for revolver bullets which have crimp grooves. Probably a way’s down their road, as their 50 can’t walk bullets out of a magazine in the handle!
If you like simplistic slide labeling, you’ll love the Randall 1911. Finely built handgun, but for whatever reason looks like it was lettered with a hand punch
Ian you said this is a standard 1911 aside from the barrel, but don't they also have a widened magazine well and trigger yoke to accomodate the .50 magazines ? I recall reading somewhere that standard 1911 dimensions are slightly too narrow and that the gun has differences in the dimensions of some internal parts as a result. Still this gun looks like it'd be more useful for matches where you want to maximise bullet momentum for target smacking potential than as an actual carry piece.
Externally, it is the same size as a conventional M1911. Internally, the magazine, mag well, mag catch, trigger bow, trigger tracks, barrel, barrel seat, and slide bore have been altered for the fatter .50 GI.
Because people act like they can only own one caliber. The .50 G.I haters are many, those willing to actually shoot it (before criticizing it) are few.
DAMN! This is some heavy duty blessing by Gun Jesus. Pretty cool pistol, Capt. Miller from "Saving Private Ryan" wouldn't even mind about the Mustangs if he shot the Tiger tank with this one!
In terms of hunting large game, this would be great for using as a last ditch gun for boars. 10mm auto is cheaper though I believe, and I know of people who have used said cartridge to put down large boar at dangerously close-range
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic I dont get why people have such a issue with the keylock, if you dont like it dont use it. and if you really concerned about the mechanism getting in the way, take it out
@@StarkRaven59 Maybe, maybe not. The semi-auto action would reduce the recoil, same as it does on shotguns and rifles. But as you mentioned, the grip dimensions would probably be an issue.
I have a glock 21 with a GunCrafters .50GI conversion. They make very nice products. The .50GI does have a little more kick than a .45 acp... Not too much though.
I think it's cool I think it's impractical as all hell but it's cool and if I had one I would probably carry it only because the round would certainly be effective for anything I would need perhaps not optimum but certainly effective
Ive had one of those built for me since october 07 on my way home from Iraq in Kuwait, I paed half and it was finished by febuary of 08'. I plan on finnaly paying it off this spring. Cant wait.
I'm a gun enthusiast and just enjoy looking at the latest inventory, I seen this while scrolling through my home page and seen 50 Cal. And my favorite pistol of all time. People say colts jam up but I've never seen it in person. They must not clean theirs. Lol
Am I the only gun person who’s not impressed with pistol caliber hollow points? I’ll take reliability and penetration over a fraction of an inch worth of expansion any day. Things change when you talk about magnum calibers, shotguns, or rifles of course.
For normal defense against attacks who wear everyday clothes hallow points are good. Against attackers who have thick leather jackets and maybe soft body armor normal rounds work better. It all depends on the situation
Shadow Moonbat don’t forget barriers like car doors and or large people. Especially given how big people are getting 18” of soft tissue penetration might not cut it!
I like how every video in which you showcased something in a 50 caliber the answer to why was this done was they needed to measure themselves, if you catch my drift.
Man oh man this is why a 10mm 1911 is the best, making an even harder hitting 1911 was always a noble task, going down in caliber but being harder hitting is the better move tho.
A heavier but slower bullet may have some marginal benefits, though: less loss of speed and energy at distance compared to faster/lighter bullets. Also, smaller noise due to lower muzzle velocity. Both are marginal but measurable advantages.
@@1988thefreeman I was joking. If I actually had the talent to do that I'd go with 9mm or maybe a trimmed down .30 carbine case. I did actually convert my 10/22 into a muzzle loader but that was really just a barrel modification. It will shoot a airgun pellet or steel BB in excess of 3000 fps using BP though,and that ain't no joke. It will shoot through a pressure treated 4x4.
@@JohnLeePedimore jokes aside the 25 ACP cartredge facinates me, its a product of its time (remember 22 rimfire was considered a valid self defence round in the 1800s and early S&W carry revolvers where chambered in it) it seems like sombody was content with the power level but wanted centerfire reliability and boom, 25 acp was born
@@therideneverends1697 Part of why the .25 get's a bad rap is because so many cheap junky guns were chambered for it but if you get a Colt or Beretta they are actually good little guns and very concealable. I'm surprised that nobody in the last 100 years has really tried to modernize the round or maybe extend the case a smidge to get that little bullet moving fast enough to expand a hollow point. They sell plenty of small .22s but the .25's centerfire primer is a more reliable ignition system than rimfire.
It really only delivers a little bit more energy than a .45 ACP. If you want something that hits hard, get a 1911 in 10mm. 10mm delivers almost 200 FtLbs of energy more than .50GI. this varies with the loading of course, but even mild loads of 10mm deliver more energy than hotter loads of .50GI.
Bullet performance is based on two things with one being far more important. First, bullet weight will determine how much energy you can potentially deliver. Hollow points are designed to dump their energy quicker than a standard round, however many environmental variables can negate a hollow points performance. Second, and most important, bullet placement will determine where that energy is delivered and how your target reacts. A well placed .22 rim fire can be instantly fatal where as a poorly place .22 rim fire may not even require medical attention. But at the end of the day the caliber, firearm, and application are up to the shooter. With the right practice/training will be capable using their chosen tool to deliver the best results.
Carl Eric von Kleist, III Not really, a friend and I were out squirrel hunting one day and he got shot in the forearm and never went to the hospital. Once the burning stopped he pushed the bullet back out through the entry hole. It went in at an angle just under the skin. We reported it but whoever shot him was never found. I think the cops thought we made the whole thing up to cover our asses but we never went back to that spot hunting again.
@@carlericvonkleistiii2188 I have seen one and read medical reports on many "pass through" wounds from .22 rim fire where the treatment....was a band aid. So no, it wasn't stupid to say it was a researched and informed thing to say.
@@Dakktyrel Bullshit. If you read a medical report, the person got medical attention, otherwise you would not have read a medical report. And probably, since they got medical attention, they would, at the very least, have been prescribed antibiotics, as is the case with other puncture wounds.
On your comment about 9mm vs .45 effectiveness, I don't know how true this is, but I thought there were reports of soldier's in the middle east swapping their 9mm for .45's because the 9mm wasn't dropping hostiles?
I've talked to people who fought in the east and they pretty much say the same. That their 9mm's weren't that effective for dropping hostiles in combat. Seems odd since they're shooting at people in robes and cloth basically with no armor. Guess 9mm doesn't kull fanaticism that well.
I've heard a lot of things from a lot of people, I don't know what to think any more. I've heard people saying they'd love to go back to battle rifles because body armour is becoming so ubiquitous (because everyone and their dog's getting hardware from foreign military forces). I've heard people say that 5.56 is perfectly fine. Same goes for the old 9mm vs .45 debate. Ask two people, get three opinions.
@@p.h.bridegroom4142 That image is woefully out of date at this point. The Saudis, Turks, Russians, US, Iran and several European countries have been delivering equipment to different factions in Iraq and Syria, body armour is becoming quite widespread.
I’ve heard that as well, but according to the marine I was talking to it was mostly because they’re forced to use ball ammo instead of hollow points (“shooting them with stupid little f--ing cannonballs” as he put it). .45 ACP performs much better as a military caliber for that reason as that big hunk of lead tends to dump its kinetic energy more effectively than 9mm in ball ammo form.
