10mm is the Best Millimeter: the Colt Delta Elite 

Good engineers remove material where the Almighty tells them to.

Lol. Kinda like drilling a tiny hole at the end of a crack in a windshield.

@@jacktingle215 The Muse.

@@jacktingle215 Does the full size EAA Tanfoglio polymer frame Witness (Force) 10 have that same slide-rail cracking issue?

It's true, I learnt this in a solid mechanics course during my PhD. Cracks grow because stress is concentrated at the tip. If you make a rounded hole instead, the stress in the material is lower, and the hole does not grow.

The Colt Centi. The CC.

@@NareshSinghOctagon now that you've seen the BB gun, let us introduce the CC gun

My ex said 1 cm one centimeter wasn't big enough😅 showed her my colt centimeter and it was definitely big enough now! I'm just added to a registry and got it confiscated but hey I'm finally big enough!

That sounds so bad ass lol

The side arm like this should of been in a game instead

@@Flaxdosh there is a mod where you can turn all of the 10 mm pistols into the 10ml Delta

the thing was ugly and weak as hell

Wtf kinda 10mm pistol did you guys use? Sure it was ugly, but weak it was not

no, I only have a pistol and an electric prod. unatco better issue me some hardware

Actually it's a widely used engineering solution, it changes the stress distribution. If you do it correctly the stress concentrations will be on areas better able to take the stress. In fact it's more effective than reinforcing a section in alot of applications as the reinforcement often leads to a greater stress concentration in the reinforced sections.

Nice to know I'm not the only one that thought this.

whoever invented engineering was a wild man

@@deathtdowAbsolutely correct. We can now achieve that relatively easily with computer simulations, as well being able to use generative designs so that such stress concentrations do not happen in the first place (see Czinger 21c for an example). In the past though, it took a lot of imagination and priceless years of experience to be able to roughly visualize stress distributions. Those people were the aerodynamicists of the mechanical world. Some people can see air, others can see stress distribution. But even today, people with mechanical engineering degrees, people who should know better, some still believe that a solid, homogenous piece of metal (for whatever purpose) will always be better than one with holes or otherwise removed material. To that I always give the example of engine conrods. By removing material at the bottom center of the beam, the load will be much more evenly distributed to the big end bearing, rather than having most of the load going right to the middle of it (see Cosworth CA2010 F1 conrod for a great example).

MechMK1 I got the reference 🙂 FE

Star MEGASTAR

Sorry but BULLSHIT... as someone who actually runs and uses 10mm the Glock G20 is head and shoulders over this antique. End of story.

Dee-Bee Kooper G20 still hasn’t got enough chamber support to run full house loads.

K Bob aftermarket barrel?

44 mag Is 11mm

Don't even point at it!

the best line in that movie came from the manager...."FUCK THE NAPKIN!" lol

I have one in 11.25mm! .45ACP, as it’s better known.

5Rounds Rapid i thought .45 was 11.43x23( then wgain idk, learnt this fact off of S.T.A.L.K.E.R lol)

n0la Thou.

....but...there 'are' special dispensations...

Going to have to take you all back to Sunday school. Your theology is flawed. Gun Jesus would never forbid hand canoneering. He merely stated that if you were to do it, get a Grizzly or Automag or some such. 1911s should be cherished and respected as the holy relics that they are and fed only proper ammunition.

REMEMBER YE NOT the gospel of Saint John the Browning?? FOR IT IS WRITTEN in the first chapter of his gospel: 1 In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain." 2 "And shouldst thou muck with it, and hang all manner of foul implements upon it, and profane its internal parts, thou shalt surely have malfunctions, and in the midst of battle thou shalt surely come to harm." www.frfrogspad.com/jmb.htm REPENT! REPENT YE!! And return to the ways of his Holy Prophet, John Moses Browning!!

No heresy.....according to tparagraphs 9 thru 45 of the 2nd Book of Acts of the Reloaders, one may beseech the Gin Jesus for a special dispensation to go over manufacturers recommended powder charge and bullet weight, thus embracing the Holy +P+ through a sacred act of contrition such as joining Patreon and supporting the spreading of the Word of John Browning. :)

Congratulations, I'm looking for the 10mm link less

Small world, i guess

You bought it

Can you build me a curved plywood gun? Or at least some car parts? I could use a laquered diffuser in birch and a 9-ply skateboard in alternating woods. ;-)

Do you shoot it?

He caters to people who are in favor of strict gun control but also love guns (a lot of those people exist), by keeping politics completely out of his videos. This is rare. I would imagine that people who are not into guns would also like the videos, the same way I enjoy watching the lock picking lawyer. No horseshit experts are difficult to find on RU-vid.

@@-BuddyGuy very very true

No, the fight just isn't here yet. They do not in any great numbers seek persons or content out. It must be pointed out. Just wait. The day will come.

@@-BuddyGuy Yep. I'm interested in the engineering and history, less so the shooting. This channel is relaxing and he goes through the mechanisms and design decisions in a clear and concise manner. No fluff. No annoying music. No begging me to buy stupid apps. Good video and sound quality. Excellent in other words. LPL falls into that category as well, as does NileRed and many others.

And so memeable

Yes, and there was a companion AR-15A2 Delta HBAR rifle fitted with an optic and cheek riser. The rifle had the same medallion affixed to both sides of the A2 pistol grip

Or Bass beer.

Hey, pink used to be a manly color.

Synchronizor Bret Hart wore pink and that's all the evidence I need!

Bobby Newmark yes it is.

Colt doesn't make any 1911s with cast slides or frames; who's "they"?

First gun that I ever saw blow up was Delta Elite using factory ammunition. A chunk of the slide missed my face by inches. The guy standing next to me shooting it was not hurt, thankfully. I avoided buying a 10mm for years after that. When I did, I purchased a Glock 20. It KB’d in my hand with less than 200 rounds through it. I gave up on the 10mm and just stick with my .44 Mag revolver if I ever need to stop a T-Rex hiding behind the ‘fridge. BTW - the Glock incident was due to a case blowout. The Glock was repaired on site and was shooting in less than 15 minutes. I was impressed. I later modified that Glock with a new barrel giving better support to the cartridge, a heavier spring and guide rod, and titanium pins. The guy that got it has one heck of a nice pistol. My inability to use it afterwards was mental and not the fault of the pistol. Also, the round that blew was a very moderate load. The case had been over stressed by resizing due to the excessive bulging with the unsupported chamber. The length of the bulge also indicated that the case was still under a good deal of pressure while extracting. This was combined with that ammunition manufacturer being known for having pretty hard brass in the first place. Fired cases using the new barrel had 2/3 less expansion than with the original barrel. In case anyone wonders, I spent most of my 35 year career in the nuclear industry performing equipment failure analysis, so I am pretty sure of the failure cause.

No, they do not cast the slide or the frame.

@Matthew Caughey ha! Internet bs.

Added 24 pound recoil spring to mine. No problems in firing 135 to 200 grains .try brownells

Cult colt ya not much difference, mines a glock though..........

It does have a lot of horse power...

Zach Brummett get out

That's punny

I hate you for using that pun

haha, yeah, really the idea is to let the frame bend a few thousandths of an inch and be totally operable than have a crack and render the gun useless, but it does sound pretty goofy at first blush.

It’s more or less the same principal as a expansion joint on pipe It just works, Todd Howard

Similar to the fix, the best way to stop a crack is to drill a tiny hole at the end of the crack. Stops the crack from progressing and will probably permanently protect the part as the concentrated stress point is gone.

Speedholes

More of a shooting the Gordian Knot logic

Im not a fan of the slow bigger calibers. I like speed + multiplicity. The bigger my wall of rain is the better I can pin my opponent down while directly advancing in on them. Im not not done till I collapse that skull like an empty bag.

Noneshere yeah, except the average 10mm goes almost 500 feet per second faster than 9mm. You're a moron.

aliven't meme

Some One that's a badn't one

Noneshere r/iamverybadass

Real Fallout fans know the best is 14mm.

@@boredgunner nono 5mm ;)

@@boredgunner /hug you know it! :)

As usual, you are all wrong. The Abilene Kid BB gun is the best.

@@lorddata2472 *proceeds to pull out bean bag ammunition*

hahahahahahahaha.... .. No wonder you got divorced. pathetic incel.

runninggames771 ...what?

@@runninggames771 absolute cringe

@@runninggames771 Dude was married, how the hell is he an "incel"?

Head to Pima Pistol Club in Tucson and you may see Ian there in person!

Mornin'!

That's funny. It finds different things on Instagram.

It honestly amazes me that the rock island social media managers have such a great sense of humor

Are there any ships that actually have meter guns?

@@exratic5908 the Germans produced a couple of 800mm+ railway guns, using two parallel tracks. Used at Sevastopol

I like my 12.7 too

All the mainland European naval guns were made as metrics, like the German 380mm guns on the Bismarck, tirpitz, gneisenau. The French did the same think with the 380mm guns on the Jean Bart. 380mm is equal to roughly 15 inch guns, so actually smaller than the American guns of the time, even though everyone claimed the Bismarck was some scary monster. The only reason the British had such problems with it was because they hadn't caught up with the U.S. on naval technology, in both battleships and carriers.

@@danielburnette9552 False. They had such trouble with the Bismarck because they fought it with a Battleship that was unfinished and a Battleship that was outdated and hadn't been modernised.

BS your not winning with 850fps. Smaller calibers hold + release more faster. Id rather make it rain then launch baseballs

Noneshere But 10mm isn't doing 850 fps. It's usually going about 1200 fps, regularly more, so I don't know where you get the idea of it being a big, slow projectile.

@@five5105 The speed comes at a huge cost, though. 10mm handguns often begin to malfunction well before 9mm and 45acp because of the intense stress that cartridge puts on gun parts.

@@strongside4565 Who cares? Gun just go boom boom.

In the defense of the commanders, they were designed for 1950’s/60’s era 9mm. Not modern day self defense ammo.

Fans of cyberpunk literature have known about it for decades, Fallout added to the popularity, but FO3 just merely extended that a bit further.

Charles Lee Ray me too

fbi had 10 mil mp5 in real life

Yeah me too. I dindnt know that they existed up until now :D

Yeah, and the starter pistol in Fallout 3 was also chambered in 10mm.

Did Dad have one in .30 carbine as well? I read somewhere that .30 carbine could be hand loaded for a Ruger 6 gun to levels comparable to .30 30.

Bought mine in 87 stainless.

Dude, bought my Gold Cup National Match thirty-five years ago at a sporting goods shop on my way home from work. I just got a Bianchi Agent holster like I had forty years ago. The delta logo is definitely cool…badasss. I had a Glock 20 also and that was nice, but the Colt is slim and when you feel it you know.

Please don't put decimal points Infront of metric calibers 5.56mm ok .9mm not ok

EAA Witness is a good budget handgun to begin with, coming in 10mm Auto is a major plus.

Didn't the EAA have issues with cracking the frame as well?

Welp, TIL. I'd never heard of a Witness frame cracking before, but evidently there was a run of frames that were cast differently than the normal square blocky style. From what I've read it was a short term thing as Tanfoglio went back to the square style frame castings which solved the issue. At any rate, I've had mine for a few years now and I've put god knows how many rounds through it. No issues with the frame, and it's still more accurate than I am.

sailingmaster I agree, until they make an 11mm. Right? 😎

I personally think 7.62mm is the best mm, not sure why though.

I got one for a steal at $400 a couple years ago. I believe it's a 1st Gen though, haven't shot it yet.

Just get a 1911 in .45ACP. No need to seek out such an obscure chambering.

@Andre McGoo I have no problem with 10mm, but Amehdion said they wanted a 1911 just to have on the wall and admire. Seems sensible to me then to just get a relatively inexpensive modern 1911 in .45 rather than seeking out one specifically in 10mm. No need to put words in my mouth that I never uttered - I'm all in favor of having a variety of different handgun cartridges on the market.

I think the 1911 is pretty ugly, unless it's fancied up like this, the grizzly, or a subcompact model. A tinkered, specialized design is always interesting to me

adrianspeeder heck, that's a whole decimeter!

Which ones and favorite(s)?

not 11 mac-11?

“I got 8 .38s, 9 9s, 10 mac10s.”-B.I.G.

How did that work out for you after a few thousand rounds?

Sad Glock 40 noises.

Laughs even louder in tanfoglio gold match.

576103 Nice. Good handloaders know the best load is seldom the hottest.

576103 Wilson Combat Magazine, holds 9 rounds. Works flawlessly with 9 rds in magazine, one in chamber of my Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 10mm single stack.

All this. I would add, the 10mm Auto cartridge was developed with the performance of 357magnum and 41magnum in mind, but in a smaller semiauto service pistol case. With factory 357 being ~500ft-lbs and 41mag at around 700ft-lbs, 10mmAuto was initially loaded for ~600ft-lbs. I think the stoutest 200gr handload I've seen listed in a manual was supposed to run 1250fps (close to 700ft-lbs). It's not really surprising that full power 10mmAuto is more of a niche load these days. When it came on the scene, .357magnum had been around for 50years and yet most police departments were still standardized on the 38spl for their wheel guns and transitioning to 9mmPara for semiautos. Pretty much every complaint that would be levied on 10mmAuto had been addressed against 357magnum (and 41mag) decades earlier. I was an early adopter of the Glock 20 and its large grip isn't for everyone, but it delivers it's recoil IMO in a much more pleasant and controllable way than a K Frame 357. Firing uncompensated Deltas reminded me more of my 2-1/2" bbl model 19 with compact grips than I liked. I never really considered stock Deltas to be a good fit for full power 10mmAuto.

molochi; from being told of the development, Cooper was first looking at a super 9mm, and was an aficionado over the 38 Super (before it was adopted by IPSC shooters to make “Major Power Factor”) they found out the cake heads blew out with loads that approximated the lighter bullet weight .357 loads, so Cooper and Maj. George Nonte developed a wildcat fitting a Colt Commander using a cut down .223 case loaded with 110 grain .357 bullets. According to what I’ve been told and researched, the idea of getting an upgrade to bullet weight and velocity developed into a wildcat using a 38-40 case, with the rim cut down and an extractor groove cut to allow case extraction. Someone had contacts with Norma, who based upon a target bullet weight/velocity spec, which initially was a 200 gr. bullet at 1250 FPS and 140 bullet at 1350. Both were relatively hot and some people had problems with the recoil. I don’t recall an attempt to approximate the 41 magnum, but that both rounds kinda fell in a Sweet Spot. I never had problems with recoil, as I wasn’t trying combat shooting, just hunting and silhouette shooting, both endeavors where doing mag dumps are not the norm. Additionally, during the development of the modern pistol technique, at about the same time, the most common shooting technique was the Weaver technique which incorporated recoil management, unlike today’s Isosceles technique.

BTW, I owned and tried the original Mag-N-Port (the original modern porting) and disliked it greatly, as IMO all ported barrels are exceedingly loud and obnoxious, and if shot prone or supported, increased muzzle blast obnoxiously as well.

Heh, when I started shooting I preferred weaver, still do really. What really got me into 10mmAuto fandom was that I was shooting IPSC with an unported glock17L but they (the local organizers) wouldn't accept 9mm loaded up to major PF. At the time I could afford a glock20 but not a decent 1911 and the 21 wasn't out yet. Also, at the time I was bowhunting pigs and it was legal to carry a 10mmAuto during deerseason. It made for a comforting backup.

The 1911 is a tried and true masterpiece

Yo whats up Salokin!

Some of the older calibres have been forgotten because they are not fashionable..people love reinventing the wheel....6.5x54 is a good rifle round, just an archaic type...

How many rounds through it and have you shot the really hot rounds too?

@@sctm81 I really don’t know how many rounds I have shot through it,I reload my own,I do 300 at a time as at the time that’s all the brass I could find, no loaded rounds,had to wait 6 weeks to get it when it first came out, 7 years of match shooting, and 20 or so just plinking at my country place,wore out the recoil bushing rubber bushing the gun smith said he had never Sean one wear our, I said I shoot a lot

@@davidanderson3999 nice. I guess just like a hot rod it can take some boost but there just is more wear and tear the higher you go.

Now? You mean buy another gun, right?

Jeremiah90526 yes indeed

Whew, I was scared for a second there that you might not have some protection at home. 10mm is best caliber, so it is a good idea to get one. I am still waiting for the Hudson H10 to get into 10mm though.

@@Jeremiah90526 Ugh, Americans and their pRoTeCtIoN. Many other countries don't have guns and do just fine. There is no need for "pRoTeCtIoN".

@@heavypupper1219 Wtf are you talking about st*pid boy

tell that to people who actually shoot .50 AE accurately

@@davidpriester7240 Cool Ill send you a Scooby snack

@@davidpriester7240 why would you want a pistol that shoots 50ae? 10mm kicks like crazy and 50ae is even more inaccurate. Especially if you use anything thats not a desert eagle(aka anything that is smaller than 2 bricks).

@@stompingpeak2043 It is a handgun cartridge after all. It was not created with the most intense accuracy or range in mind. Im likely going to be purchasing a CMMG Banshee 300 series chambered in 10mm. Ar pistol chambered in 10 mm with an 8 inch barrel, surely to make it slightly more accurate to an extent, however, it is a handgun cartridge and the effective range is obviously going to be much much less than 5.56 or 7.62 x 39mm

@@davidpriester7240 you made my point. Smaller rounds are just as good(and better in most ways since you can easily get follow up shots)

45 acp: man stopper 10mm: bear stopper and hunting round.

There are some nice 45 rounds now like Winchester Ranger-T which expands to 25mm

@@SoccerVJ2011 so you're saying its advantage 45 again (vs 9mm)?

The original .460 Rowland conversions depended upon the extra mass of a muzzle brake compensator threaded to the barrel. The action of the escaping high-pressure gas also delays unlocking. I wouldn't trust the current conversions that only have a ported barrel, and I'd be leery of any muzzle break without baffles unless it is threaded to a coned/heavy profile barrel.

Jack Wagon, Follow Rowland's specs as to which models to use and you shouldn't experience any cracked frames. Some 1911s will crack which is why they have their model list.

Jake Cooke wow you stole it.

You've excellent taste in firearms and video games, Mamiya645.

Underrated comment

@thatonescrambler except 5 years later, ammo is not cheaper. Especially for 10mm.

@@baconatordoom eh if i was worried about the price i wouldn't like expensive things