ANC and eff want the vote promised their people homes for 28 years and never delivered due to laziness and corruption! Want to get rid of white farmers; white people over all; the hatred envy and jealousy will never go away as they are useless and have no common sense just like the open borders airports and ports; their illegal trade have put us in a crime war as they have turned sa into a mafia state with no law and order nwo behind it
I think the ANC, facing a fall in popularity and losing majority, is trying to keep the communist party, COSATU onside. Cyril is also trying to prove he can deliver on the populist demands he agreed to when he came into power. It might also be a price Julius / EFF are extracting for their support/collusion/coalition in 2024
No ways, as a black woman, I honestly don't care about racial differences, I only wish for a future oriented and competent government. ANC is not either.🌚
then please speak to your fellow black people, they wont listen to whites, so you ALL need to educate the people bout the dangers of communism and the hateful ANC/EFF . White people despite our efforts cannot save you from yourselves at this point. Who cares if your grannies voted for the ANC, time for them to GO!
Please correct me if I'm wrong here... Expropriation of property is not limited to physical immovable property like land and the improvements on it. It includes all property. Movable property like a vehicle, intellectual property like patents and copyrights, fiduciary property like registered companies and trusts. Am I reading that right?
@@mljcombrink8484 Try to think of those who can't just up and leave. Children. Old folks. Those who just don't have the resources. That was a careless comment, think before typing.
She's looking after her job as a minister. And her Goode party pretends to champion integrity. She's become shameful to be linked to this legalized theft!
This is a bill written by thieves for thieves. Only thieves-by-heart imagine that they will benefit from this. But remember, there are always bigger thieves than you. Be sure to own no property.
Good comment. Very observant. I can only hope that our fellow South Africans will be able to alert ine another about the danger. To wake up from their complacency ✨🤔
You might have weapons to protect your property but what about people in Sastri Park, Palmview and Brookdale who are so much in the danger areas, Malemas wish has come through
Farmers I knew in Zimbabwe said it wont happen, I as a Mine and Factory owner thought, We are Ok Jack , gues what Lost both , and these were not farms. Complacency of false desperate hope
Sadly South Africans suffer from a terminal case of complacency. Watch them moan and cry in a few years time when we are all living in a hell hole of Afro-communism.
I'm not sure about that, it's easier said than done -- first those in power might consider killing the goose that lays the golden eggs and serving it up as dinner for the hungry.
How come the poor black, Roma, Aboriginal souls have been pushed and relegated to the margins of society- crowded slums and gullags where the fair, just, righteous, non corrupt and non racist are in rulership and in the majority. So take the land Africa, they didn't come with it anyways.
All lawyers, judges, banks, big business, human rights organisations, etc etc, must come together and rise against this rotten government, municipalities. Why do you think monthly billings are out of control. People with overinflated false monthly account statements will become targets of municipalities. Every South African will be negatively impacted except those behind the EWC curtain.
@@vonniecronje3914 @Vonnie Cronje YES! These professions are the rot in a society. I have yet to meet anyone in these professions that can complete one day and claim that they were 100% ethical in every aspect.
And how come the poor black, Roma, Aboriginal souls have been pushed and relegated to the margins of society- crowded slums and gullags where the fair, just, righteous, non corrupt and non racist are in rulership and in the majority. So take the land Africa, they didn't come with it anyways.
Taking something without paying for it is called theft. Expropriation without compensation is taking without paying and therefore theft, regardless of how you say it
To me the most worrying clause of this bill is the one allowing for EWC if the owner has lost control of the land. It basically means that having your land invaded is itself a reason for having your land expropriated with zero compensation. In the real world this means that nobody's land is safe from EWC.
And how come the poor black, Roma, Aboriginal souls have been pushed and relegated to the margins of society- crowded slums and gullags where the fair, just, righteous, non corrupt and non racist are in rulership and in the majority. So take the land Africa, they didn't come with it anyways.
Ramaphosa is a World Economic Forum (WEF) partner, and according to the WEF, by 2030 we "will own nothing, and be happy". EWC can quite easily be used to achieve that goal!
Exactly!! You hit the nail on the head. BUT, how many are even aware if this!! We need a president who is FOR SOUTH AFRICANS and is NOT influenced by USA Shwab or any of the others who are in control of governments worldwide!!
At the time when Mugabe invaded farms in Zimbabwe to win support from henchmen, I watched South African response. When there was none, I realised that in time this method would also be used by the ruling elites. I then set about leaving South Africa and have never returned, although I miss it still.
I can assure you the DA is much part of this as the ANC. They all are in the same game. Do not be fooled by the colour of the shirt and show they put up for you. ITs all a game. SHow me a poor politician and I will believe that they care. ITs all about the game, the money and control. Nobody is doing anything. All they do is talk and then nothing. MAlema hates the DA, yet he has been seen on several occations drinking and eating with memebers of the DA. So what do think they will do? Stop relying in the government and take your power back.
We all know that the anc is wicked and corrupted,but we who believe in our God,fear no evil.Psalm 60:11-12 Yes, Lord, help us against our enemies,for man's help is useless.With God's help we shall do mighty things, for He will trample down our foes.
All those in favour of expropriation without compensation should be the first to have their properties expropriated without compensation. Put their money where their mouths are so to speak.
Remember Orwell's novel Animal Farm? Some are "more equal than others" -- they decide, and they are the Law. But times change, and no human being can ever be in full control. Our lives are in God's hands (the God of the Bible, the only true God), whether we like it (know it, accept it, believe it) or not.
@@truth-Hurts375 if it happens or not it’s still unconstitutional and illegal and we will not stand for any of it. This will cause a civil war before anyone freely hands over their property to a bunch of thieves.
I'm a left-wing orientated individual.. but the ANC make it impossible for my vote to reflect my outlook on life. Because a white person voting for the ANC is like a chicken voting for KFC.
PS: I signed your petition but will not be joining your Facebook group. Facebook is a cemetery with over 30 million diseased users and nearly 20% of its users over the age of 55 and aging like a saucer of milk in the midday sun. It is essentially an online retirement village. You're better off setting up a Discord server.
Why does no-one take the MP's to task : Get them on public platforms to explain why they voted for these bills. Get all information-spreading media involved.
Main-stream media will never get involved as they are captured by the government!! that is why nothing or very little has been said about these bills on their platforms.
@@sonjaleroux4377 Well...understand this : Understanding primarily means understanding the word understand. Once you understand this, you are in a position to make other people understand what you understand by the word understand. In the new world order we are pushed to understand the word overstand . That seems to give some politicians a cockstand. Understand?
And how will that help except to increase the rate at which expropriation takes place? Stop thinking like decent people. This is another strategy in the war against humanity.
We have to stand together as the public and put a stop to everything that is against freedom for the people. If we don't do that we are going to pay for it with consequences that will be very painful for humanity
No one can do it alone -- you'll have to support those who are willing to stand up and stand against injustice. Organizing and "joining forces" with like-minded people is the only way. Also "take back power" (in a manner of speaking) locally and it will have an effect nationally. This is a fight for hearts and minds, people need to wake up and take action. Active resistance is necessary.
The ANC doesn't seem to have the intelligence to set up a system like this, I believe it's something deeper and more complex, we are missing a bigger picture.
I'm wondering too. Even if the ANC has perhaps done a backroom deal with the Trust, it could backfire on the Trust later on... This is all socialism through the backdoor.
Because they are part of the elite who are intent on running the world as a authoritarian, totalitarian state under a dictatorship with no morals, values, pity, empathy or conscience. And those are their good points. We all quietly hope it will all go away and become better. Just read the Book of Revelations in the Bible. ITs about to get worse, much worse! As for agenda 21 , 2030 etc. 95% of the world population must be wiped out and that won't happen by itself.
BEE - many large businesses are completely BEE comliant, which means more than 50% black ownership, which in turn means ANC cronies that are put in control. SOunds like a conspiracy theory - but believe me it is not. ALways follow the money and see who it goes to and you will quickly learn who is pulling the strings.
Where are the banks on this? Why are they so silent. Once property gets stolen by the government, property will devalue at a rapid rate. Can you imagine the losses.
What will happen to the farmers? What will happen to the crops? What will happen to the markets? What will happen to the retailers? What will happen to the people? Don't worry : We have Billionaire ANC cadres.
I said it once and I'll say it again, we are going the way of Zimbabwe!! It seems our government don't do risk assessment before making decisions!!!! I'm sure the government is fully aware what happened in Zimbabwe but have the mindset of "it won't happen to me!"
In his Grundrisse, Marx spells out how capitalism will transpose into socialism. The alienation of property rights is a very important step in this process. Property rights will transfer from private to public ownership. In the case of Zimbabwe private property were transferred from private to private or Chinese ownership. This is not what socialism is, socialism is all about abandoning private ownership. If it is merely private individuals using government to steal from others, then one should be concerned. However, complaining about it is not going to stop this mad rush grabbing land. This grab will obviously include both rural and urban land, and what else. Will it include businesses, factories, mines and houses. What will the consequences be is house owners, business owners stop paying their mortgages. This will economically destroy all banks, create economic pandemonium in the from of inflation and recession. If our banking system is gone, we lose the only competitive advantage we still have in Africa. Will people then as a consequence of this land grab also loose their pensions? Perhaps not, but if banks are bankrupt what will happen to pensions? This action has the potential to destroy South Africa’s economy to the extent that it is impossible to return to any level of economic activity for a long time. Just look at Zimbabwe. Furthermore, what does property rights include? Only land, or capital items as well. Alienation of property right forcefully is unconstitutional. Does this mean that the constitution is now null and void? The history of forced land grabs like this proposed by the ANC has never been an economic success. Even the Chinese had to abandon their social ownership of land and replace it with private ownership. They are now trying to move towards a system of full private ownership. Thus, from a historic-materialistic perspective land grabs is a messy business, can South Africans afford to pay this massive price?
@@derikuk2967 exactly, is that not then the means to create hope, make South Africa a better place for all, create opportunities and thus happiness for all South Africans.
Perhaps it’s true that all presidents have big missions they need executed before thier exit. Cyril is doing his last before his anticipated exit. This is not even in the normal news, pushed in people were busy making memes about eksdom and stage 15.
The heavy sanctions that were put on Zimbabwe I’m sure also had something to do with property rights and a few other things,could we be facing sanctions?
We are in fact facing WW111. THE Bible tells us what is about to happen will be worse than anything seen before or ever again. Those who worship evil are in charge.
... forget international help - it's not forthcoming at any time ---- the only international help SA ever received was the overseas coveting of SA's land/resouces ! ..... at the same time,there is an overall push by globalists throughout the UK/EU to impose WEF/OWG on all citizens there ! .....
People seem to think that the bank benefits from bankrupting homeowners, their interest and profit is realized at the end of a loan term not by confiscating property that won't sell.
You are going the same way as Zimbabwe. The trespassing law changes, now property law changes, exactly what happened in Zimbabwe. The South African economy is on a downward slope and will not stop. You also have marginally financial educated ministers in power who have no idea of the repercussions to the economy when you constrict it for political gain.
@@truth-Hurts375 no way the banks will get that money back. If a farmer buys a farm of R200 million and he loses the farm in the next 3 years. The farmer will be bankrupt with no way of paying R200 million back so the bank loses
Under Cyril? Please man... people where warned before the ANC came to power this would happen. It's the Tripartite Alliance as a whole that's the problem!
Die hof se moer dis nie vir hulle om dit te beslyt nie die gronde behoord nie aan een van hulle nie hulle kan met staats grond maak soos hulle wil maar privaat eiendom hulle krap waar dit nie juk nie die bloed gaan loop dis n belofte
Why are some nations rich and others are poor, divided by wealth and poverty? Are property rights part of the solution? Gentlemen, I would strongly recommend you all read a book written by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson, titled "Why Nations Fail". The origins of power, prosperity, and poverty. It is a must read for all concerned citizens, including Julius Malema and Cyril Ramaphosa. Hopefully, this will give you all some insight into why RSA is failing.
Mike : The ANC and the individuals you mention, are not interested in the failure or success of the country. They are only interested in themselves and their gangs.
Firstly by holding on to God (the God of the Bible, the only true God, who upholds and protects truth and justice) and putting our trust in Him; and furthermore, by standing up, standing together with like-minded people, and standing fast in opposition to lies and injustices.
@Brandon Liechti Faith. Do you believe the lie about evolution? The evolution theory has never been proved. It's the biggest blunder in the history of science. It's not possible to "evolve upwards" -- instead we are "evolving" downwards due to genetic entropy.
@@JonoJamesJonoJames Bullets run out. The puppet masters have nanobots and technology which make guns, tanks and grenades look like peashooters and Sunday school busses. Yes we will have to fight, but if we try it without FAITH we will be lost. Even with it, millions will be lost.
Dear white people. You're welcome to fly to Mexico and enter America as refugees along our very porous southern border, along with Venezuelans, Mexicans, Haitians, black Africans etc. You may even end up in Martha's Vineyard.
I think this is an attempt by the ANC to hold on to power by appealing to the kind of nationalism Malema is famous for. They see their hold on the country's constituents dissipating due to their bad governance and widespread corruption, and are now trying to appeal to the black masses by stocking up black nationalist sentiment, but I do think that the majority of the country is informed enough to see the dangers of this to our socioeconomic and political stability, as well as the opportunities it will provide to those in a culture of corruption to further disenfranchise all of us, regardless of race.
Our country is all ready the laughing stock of the world can't they see this and with this shit we are going to be country zero look what happened to Zimbabwe seriously people of all colors and races we cannot let this happen, do we want to eat or are we happy to start while the politicians is living luxuriously
@Mr Practical African people were building pyramids while Europeans were freezing, living in caves. As we speak there are black engineers, health professionals, lawyers, accountants, teachers, etc... Black people are more than capable of thriving. That's why we have to take back the previously stolen land
@@simplyballing1592 No black people should not stay landless, but expropriation without compensation isn't how black people will get land, what will happen is the same thing that happened with BEE, a small minority of politically connected black people will benefit from EWC by virtue of their political connections while the majority of black South African's get even poorer under an economy that no investor will touch with a stick. The government already owns 21% of the land in South Africa (in KZN it owns 50% of the land through the Ngonyama trust) which is worth R1.5 trillion, yet that land is never discussed for redistribution to the people. They focus on EWC and white farmers for the political import the subject carries due to the inequalities created by colonialism and apartheid, its merely a tool to garner the votes of the majority of this country, if they really wanted to empower black people they've had 30 years to do it, this is just a ploy, playing on SA's history and the majority of people's indignation to hold on to power. What the majority of the country should focus on are things that will grow the economy such as foreign investment, an economy where the average, politically non-connected black person has the opportunity to become rich, rich enough to own land. This does not exclude the inequalities of the past, but to properly address them, logical solutions must be employed as opposed to emotional ones to address them. Remember that when Zimbabwe expropriated land from white farmers, they had the funds to just leave the country, while the majority of its black populace languished in the poverty that decision caused, all this while Mugabe and the political elite became billionaires, the same thing will happen here, and this time it'll be the majority of South African's crossing borders to become low paid laborers in white people's farms in other countries, as a lot of Zimbabweans do in South Africa today ironically. The politicians won't suffer if EWC is implemented, nor will the white farmers who probably have enough wealth built up to weather that storm, it'll be the majority black population who will suffer the most.
The EWC Bill, the Land Court Bill and the amended Trespass Bill should be considered together. It seems that like a legitimisation of land grabs without any judicial oversight first steps to the complete removal of property rights in SA.
Foreign governments will own and control everything in South Afca. The South Afcn government will do exactly what the dæmonic UN tells it to do {as it already is consistently, constantly, continually, continuously doing} and there will be absolutely no freedom, only totalitarianism in South Aa for the vast majority of South Afcns ∆¶¶all who aren't political elites or very well connected with politicians¶¶∆
We claim the Union buildings and all heritage buildings in the country, their government should build their own. Including all houses older than 28 years, they can build their own, the brick factories and cement factories. They will have to buy from us, The harbours and power stations including Universities they can get special rates renting. Land underneath the hole of South Africa, we will put DDT to prevent termites.
@Brandon Liechti as i said and repeat, stay there, we don’t need you. We are going to come out of all of this crap going on wayyyyy better at the end if it all, so, be our guest. Watch the UK in next few days, watch Europe, will pray for you, as I do for SA and its loyal citizens
@Brandon Liechti your parents “seem to thin….” okayyyyy, haha. Very convincing statement that one. Do your research, see how many are coming back, and many more will, just watch this space. The ONLY country to be in. Love it. Enjoy your situation, live love and God bless. Will pray for you. One person asked you where you live now?
Too much stress leaving. Problems everywhere. (And I truly love my country.) Stay and survive somehow. Else die (happens anyway, sooner or later). Do my best, and trust in God for the rest. (That is the God of the Bible, the only true God.)
@@alrinaleroux9229 Matthew 24 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ³ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? ⁴ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. ⁵ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. ⁶ And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. ⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. ⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows.
@Brandon Liechti I definitely don't have the same view of South Africa that you have. Which country (or countries) would you prefer to be in? It would be interesting to know.
@Brandon Liechti Dear Brandon Liechti, thank you for your reply, I hope you enjoy experiencing all the different places and cultures. I'm an armchair traveller myself and have no desire to be anywhere else than right where I am, in my home country. Best regards.
Please note: only those who are seriously concerned for South Africa's economy will say something, most won't do anything as they also want their piece of land, especially those who have the power to stop these insane laws that decimate an economy - e.g. Zimbabwe.
...add it all together and it is called Banana "Republic" dictatorship... one of the cleanest state of the art nations restored to pristine squalor and barbarism by politically correct die-versity. Hosea 4:6: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." No more children. No more us. You reap what you sow. Leviticus 26: "21And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 22I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. 23And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; 24Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. 25And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy." Robert, Sacred Truth Ministries
Foe those who don't believe EWC is that bad, look across the border to Zimbabwe and witness the the financial, agricultural an personal ruination on a national level that followed on from compulsory EWC in the years 2000 to 2010. Zim went from bread basket to basket case. Massive food insecurity, rampant inflation and 80-90% unemployment. The resulting pit is so deep there is almost no way out. Smell the coffee ☕
Insight... '...what we South Africans don't quite seem to grasp, understand, is that we are at war with a lawless, ruthless and brutal looting ANC. We are not called upon to render unto Caesar what is not Caesar's. South Africa, it is our moral obligation to resist the lawless, a captured and colluding lawless'. SBCN New
...is the ANC any different from Zimbabwe's Zanu-PF? NO!!! Which means the inevitable is inevitable . The church however has power over the power of the enemy - will she rise to the dire occasion? ✝🛐
The Great Reset. "Own nothing and be happy" BS. America's Founders understood clearly that private property is the foundation not only of prosperity but of freedom itself.
I am not going to do the finger pointing nonsense... but we are now asking "wtf are we doing to this country", let us no hope it becomes "wtf have we done"... who knows maybe it is already to late, maybe not. Unless racial differences can be set aside, BEE thrown in the dust bin as it served its job, etc it is done ok. I don't give AF stand together or fall together, those are the choices and either will happen,,, mark my words!
why can we Africans never learn from past mistakes? We will end up like every single other third world country which has tried it - another charity case. Leave us to get on with our tough lives without interfering with us. Just keep the foreigners out..
@@truth-Hurts375 What do you mean, "deposit"? Whatever happened to cash payment? Just because a bank offers you something, it doesn't mean that it's a good idea to go for it.
We always said we on our way to Zimbabwe style and poverty...well we are here in this point of time... we've been looted bare to the core by government
