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A BASS odyssey 👾 SVS 3000 MICRO (vs. KEF KC62) 

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1:05 Basic differences
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@awhirsch
@awhirsch 2 года назад
Remember that dialing in the bass is done for the listening position. As you move about the room, you will notice room modes with more and less bass. Multiple subwoofers can help. Bass is by far the hardest thing to manage in a setup. The 45 day SVS trial period was not long enough for me and I sent the two subs I purchased back because I wasn’t able to integrate them to my satisfaction during that period and I was concerned that I might never be able to do it. SVS paid for the return shipping and gave me a full refund. Best customer service ever. Great app as well.
@thotho7869
@thotho7869 2 года назад
@@johnsmith1474 You apparently dont know, room modes are a giant issue in small rooms and there's plenty of research on multi subwoofer setups and how to overcome issues with placement etc...
@jeancena8761
@jeancena8761 2 года назад
Have you tried any sort of room correction? Have you ended up with a different sub in the meantime?
@audible67
@audible67 2 года назад
@@johnsmith1474 uh oh... John, thanks for giving us another great example of Dunning-Krueger.
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 2 года назад
@@johnsmith1474 PROPERLY blended subwoofers into an existing system isn't a trivial matter. It's likely the single most daunting process an audio enthusiast can undertake. Yes, there's best practices, rules of thumb, etc etc... however PROPERLY blended sub/mains system can take a great deal of effort. I would think 45 days is plenty to determine to keep them for further optimization over time. That said, every room/loudspeaker interface is different, and everyone's level of proficiency is different... we're all at various places along our audio journey. Me, I'm in my sixth decade in all things audio... professionally and as an enthusiast. I'm still experiencing new things, new challenges, acoustic interactions balancing immersiveness and three dimensionality, with image clarity. My current obsession is bass texture... proper tactility and textural details without excessive energy is the goal. Again, I'm still encountering challenges I wasn't aware of... still discovering new avenues to explore greater optimization. Audio, done right, is one helluva thing.
@Darrend42
@Darrend42 Год назад
@@FOH3663 intergrating my SVS SB 3000 (not the micro one) was the easy part..try getting a pair of Tannoy XT8F to sound sweet in an undersized room..the sub took a week or so...the Tannoys have taken 3+ years :)
@rondickinson8741
@rondickinson8741 Год назад
Thanks for all your hard work and time you put into this project very helpful.
@syanhc
@syanhc Год назад
Since I’ve been watching this channel, I’ve bought the Campfire Andromeda, Sony WH1000M5, Sony WR1000M4, RME ADI-2 Dac FS, Cambridge Audio CXN V2 and CXA81, Monitor Audio Gold 100s, Chord Qutest, Fyne Audio F1-5. Now it’s the SVS Micro 3000. John, you are costing me a fortune! 😜
@syanhc
@syanhc Год назад
I forgot the Beyerdynamic DT-1990 pro, Grado RS1x, the Lake People G111mk2 headphone amp, the Cambridge Audio Solo Phono preamp and the Sony Hi-Res ripping turntable.
@syanhc
@syanhc Год назад
Also the Q Acoustics M20HD and the 3060s subwoofer as my desktop rig.
@syanhc
@syanhc Год назад
Also, the Fiio QTS dac/amp, the Astell & Kern AK20 and the Beyerdynamic T8ie Mkii. And the Marantz HD Dac1.
@m8edofallm8eds
@m8edofallm8eds 2 года назад
Reading through the comments I always learn something new or get great responses to questions. Thanks, you wonderful people ❤️
@josevarela6352
@josevarela6352 2 года назад
Another excellent video and speech, John. Thank you!
@rosendomerel9864
@rosendomerel9864 2 года назад
Love the SVS Micro, thank you Darko for the in deep review I learn a lot more about my sub and room eq :):):)
@NotoThomas
@NotoThomas 2 года назад
Great video, very insightful. Keep it coming.
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432 2 года назад
Thanks John! So well done. Interesting and thorough.
@ondenny420
@ondenny420 2 года назад
A video that I was hoping someone would do, thanks Mate!
@bjrnmortenursin-holm7973
@bjrnmortenursin-holm7973 Год назад
Wow. thanks for this solid piece of review / discurse on the topics! Well done.
@gerrit-janslettenhaar4252
@gerrit-janslettenhaar4252 2 года назад
Thank you for this (brilliant) review! Most people do not live in acoustic-perfect rooms, and do not have perfect matching speaker/amp combinations; equalizers will do the trick! Very nice to see new build-in EQ solutions.
@isaacsykes3
@isaacsykes3 Год назад
I think that this was one of your best videos ever...very educational.
@towertone
@towertone 2 года назад
Been waiting for a head to head between these two. Thanks for finally doing one, you DESTROYED all the other reviews of them.... 😉
@chawonytube
@chawonytube 2 года назад
One of my favorite episodes. That was awesome, man.
@Kerwonderful
@Kerwonderful 8 месяцев назад
Love your videos John. Thanks for the awesome advice.
@roozda
@roozda 2 года назад
Great review JD ( your old mate, Richard from Melbourne here). I bought this same Sub about 3 months ago after mulling over the KEF and also the Rel T5/x. The app definitely swayed me as well as the price. It has fit into my system wonderfully and given my PMCs the deeper oomph they need. I love it. As far as tweaking my setup goes, I think I’m done. But also, great review and I just love how your reviews are more of an exploration and conversation built around the subject matter, rather than just a dry review. Love ya work! Rich.
@SB68SS
@SB68SS 2 года назад
This is almost the same setup i got back in May, the SVS 3000 micro, sonus faber lumina 2 but with a Audiolab 6000A play, and you are so right about the SVS app, its so easy to dail in when you can sit in your chair and adjust with your phone
@dwightballard3868
@dwightballard3868 2 года назад
Nice to see the Lyngdorf in the system. I have the MP-60-2.1 and once I ran the Room Perfect the bass response was the best I've ever heard in terms of deep, punchy bass. It really was a set it and forget it experience.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 2 года назад
Great Job John , The Kef is a huge plus for people who own Vintage Integrated amps and recievers that do not have rca preouts ! Hi-level input love it !
@nativochileno7091
@nativochileno7091 2 года назад
EXCELENTE TRABAJO MUCHAS GRACIAS UN FUERTE ABRAZO DESDE SANTIAGO DE CHILE
@audiorick841
@audiorick841 2 года назад
One of your best videos John! 👊🏻
@wolkenwolf484
@wolkenwolf484 Год назад
Wow ... thank you very much for this video! I'm using the Powernode with the KEF LS 50 Meta and think of adding a sub for a while. First, I was afraid till very close to the end of the video. Then, you summed it up perfectly, gave me a perfect advise and you've taken my fears away. Thanks! And hopefully, everyone had happy holidays and will have a good start into the new year!
@mhernandez1972
@mhernandez1972 Год назад
Hi. I have the same setup. And also deciding to add a sub or not , pls share your experience when possible , cheers
@attrktmarketing4582
@attrktmarketing4582 2 года назад
Mike here. I think this was great. Your second best video yet. Love how you meshed the SVS review and comparison with a bigger hifi question around room eq / future fi - which feels like it has its own story arc.
@pjono77
@pjono77 Год назад
It's a year after this video aired and I have just bought the SVS SB-1000 Pro and this video was so helpful, thanks John.
@gregdimond9619
@gregdimond9619 2 года назад
I added the 3000 Micro in white to my system that has Parasound amp and pre, with the Node and Elac Reference speakers. I also use with VPI phono and in 3.1 surround when watching movies. I think it's fantastic in all three applications.
@wabba67
@wabba67 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant video. If I'm going to update my system in the next year or two, setup like this is probably my goal.
@christhepk1407
@christhepk1407 Год назад
Finally understand sub placement and delay. Thanks!
@stevetalbot4288
@stevetalbot4288 Год назад
Brilliant vid John. I watch all your videos and this one in particular was so professional and easy to follow,like all your others,but especially as i have the powernode with quad S2 bookshelfs and the svs sb 1000 pro,which uses the same app. As you say,being able to change or play with the sound from your listening position is fantastic.
@woody42069
@woody42069 Год назад
Absolutely fantastic review, great information and personality! I’m entertained and informed 👍
2 года назад
Absolutely great review.
@barbaroja.mp3
@barbaroja.mp3 2 года назад
superb video! I was looking into REL subs, which I enjoy their performance but the SVS won me over because I have 2 sets of speakers (listening and DJing) and not having to reach to the back everytime to adjust the settings is a gamechanger for people who have different pairs of speakers in a room...a very special case for sure.
@mikepfeifer1753
@mikepfeifer1753 2 года назад
Great video. Also excited to learn more about the wireless pro speakers!
@Shoebutie
@Shoebutie 2 года назад
Just great. Thanks
@Willisoverthemoon
@Willisoverthemoon 2 года назад
Looking forward to watching this (as a Lyngdorf TDAi-1120 owner with an SVS Micro 3000 and Revel M16s).
@MikeLindup42
@MikeLindup42 Год назад
Bloody fantastic review, John. Am in the market for a sub, so this was bang on, as well as informative & entertaining. Thanks
@michaelekidwell3491
@michaelekidwell3491 Год назад
awesome in all ways!
@rotaks1
@rotaks1 2 года назад
Great episode. One thing I have found useful is to place the sub in near field. It was suggested by Steve Guttenberg in an episode.
@kona328WH
@kona328WH 2 года назад
Funny you have now reviewed 2 of my main equipment in quick succession. First the Klipsch The Five's and now the SVS 3000 Micro. I've had 5ye klipsch for 18 months and the SVS for 6 months. Love them both
@TombstoneTube
@TombstoneTube 2 года назад
This is a terrific review.
@erich2814
@erich2814 2 года назад
Thanks so much. . . what a great video! Gear matching, room correction, subwoofer integration and bass management. Just what the doctor ordered 🤣
@asan1050
@asan1050 2 года назад
Thanks
@britboy70
@britboy70 Год назад
Not dry at all. Loved this video and when you wander
@kona328WH
@kona328WH 2 года назад
I also used the 6db slope on the crossover, that helped integrate the sub better with my Klipsch 5's. This was via the SVS app. Still @ 80hz. It was just smoother sounding
@draztiqmeshaz6226
@draztiqmeshaz6226 2 года назад
That painting displayed behind you is SO beautiful. The colors are just.. Mm! Chefs kiss
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 2 года назад
I assume you're being funny, been looking more at the Samsung frame TV's. Thinking that, in the future, all TV's will have a separate box for all the power, inputs, and outputs.
@phoenixanthonyrobins6835
@phoenixanthonyrobins6835 6 месяцев назад
Thank you - this is such a thoughtful consideration of the real factors when integrating a sub. It was tricky enough with my studio set up, but my downstairs listening room has vintage hifi bordering on antique in a relatively small and difficult room. Quirky set up, low tech, few controls, cramped space options, challenging environment. Helpful controls within the sub can be make or break in these real world situations! It's not about sonic specs alone...
@Exgol2005
@Exgol2005 2 года назад
Thanks for this exhaustive, detailed review just like the subw (on my list) being reviewed ;).
@goodboid
@goodboid 2 года назад
I use an Adi2Pro, which has 2 dac chips in it, and allows dual 5 band parametric EQing, separately for my powered sub (Kreisel dxd800) and my speakers (krell kav400xi + jbl 4311). Though one needs to be ok with putting in a fair bit of time to tweak to taste. It's a bonus if you enjoy the process, a I do. It has been a game changer for me and I love the sheer tweakability of the setup.
@Jamy4ya
@Jamy4ya 2 года назад
I like how John Darko explain things in his videos. Its an art I would say. Sub'd!
@840swed840
@840swed840 Год назад
My kc62 came in the mail yesterday finally after having my metas for over a year drooling over the thought of more bass. Set it up directly in between my speakers, started off by putting the settings exactly how they are on this video and barely had to play around with it. If you have ls 50s just get a subwoofer for it. Definitely the most fun upgrade to my system
@sickhcivc
@sickhcivc 6 месяцев назад
Still enjoying it? Just ordered a kc62 for the wireless iis
@paulpavluk1748
@paulpavluk1748 2 года назад
Hey John, thanks for introducing me Jamaican Dub Music. I had never heard of this genre before but had heard some snippets on "Death in Paradise" but could never find it on Spotify.
@jefffan171
@jefffan171 2 года назад
Another great video, yes a rabbit hole. But one anyone who has an interest in this must be willing to blissfully fall down. Loved hearing your thoughts on these and have convinced me that because I have a mini dsp between the pre - power amps. That the kc62 is the best choice for my setup and circumstances. As with the REW and Dirac options available via the DDrc24 I can (hopefully) achieve the level of output as seen on the SVS, with the Kc62. Perfect
@bigdallyc
@bigdallyc Год назад
I got the SVS sb-1000 and it was the best HiFi component purchase I've made this far.. It was also the last purchase for my system. What a difference.
@davidryan5482
@davidryan5482 Год назад
I bought the Svs 3000 micro today and I’m wondering why people rave about subs? Totally underwhelming to the point I can’t even pick a difference. 😕
@FlyOnAlbatross
@FlyOnAlbatross 11 месяцев назад
@@davidryan5482perhaps your ears haven’t tuned themselves to the sound. Perhaps your system is sufficiently providing the sound you sought after. Otherwise try different EQ and sub placement. Finding where the bass is and is not are part of the process. From my understanding though a well implemented sub is one that you don’t notice. It fills the gap as if it was never there to begin with.
@ENGBriseB
@ENGBriseB 9 месяцев назад
​@@davidryan5482: Get someone around to take a look. The sound should be loads better especially with a AVR.
@Asoka-great
@Asoka-great 9 месяцев назад
@@davidryan5482more details on your system setup might help others
@run_taurus7635
@run_taurus7635 Год назад
excellent video🙂
@mikets42
@mikets42 2 года назад
It's not only you who has 130Hz bump. It's almost everybody because of the typical room dimension (8'- 9' ceiling, 12-14' width). Yes, you need to invert RIR. Also, it would make lots of sense to have 2 subs and cross at 150... 200Hz because the main's mid-woofers produce a lot of IMD/ non-LTI distortions when they attempt to play f < 2*f0 > 70dBC.
@lesizmor9079
@lesizmor9079 2 года назад
Darko, a well-done presentation. A word about bass that is "tighter' than another sub--- that is most often the result of the amplifier having a higher "Damping Factor". This is much less critical for mids & highs, but for bass it is a major factor. The diff between 800 or 1,000 watts in a home is really nothing, but DF is readily apparent. As the speaker cone returns to neutral (and beyond) after it's initial excursion, it generates a current back into the amp. When an amp has a high Damping Factor, this back & forth is mitigated.
@krazypinoy6495
@krazypinoy6495 2 года назад
i have the svs micro 3000...it's great and packs alot of bass
@zafert85
@zafert85 2 года назад
wooohooo finally!!!
@thibaultvandenbossche7639
@thibaultvandenbossche7639 2 года назад
The kef is nice when it works. Mine has been in repair for several months now. My LS50 wireless set also broke just after warranty expired..
@rondickinson8741
@rondickinson8741 Год назад
Wow now I have all kinds of ideas . I just wish I had the time to experiment !
@barneyrubble9309
@barneyrubble9309 2 года назад
Been a huge lyngdorf fan and they make Integration of a sub so damned easy with room correction. I would like to upgrade to a newer version of my amp as mine doesn't have the peq functionality but even so it's my end game solution.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 2 года назад
Everytime I come here I leave with some new bad ass music. Scratch was great
@TPQ1235
@TPQ1235 2 года назад
You know that you are a Darko Audio fan when, as he introduces a video, you notice changes in his listening room. New kit other than what is being featured, new accessories, new plants, etc. Always a pleasure John. When I launch RU-vid my first thought is “I hope there is a new Darko Audio feature to watch”
@ben23a31
@ben23a31 Год назад
Can't wait for you to review dual subs !
@frankgeick3641
@frankgeick3641 2 года назад
I went the mimDSP route several years ago with 4 mini-subs and REW. Getting speaker locations and EQ curves optimized took months. The equipment in this demo has come along way., and the semi-automated software is genius. It's possible to do a setup with your older hardware using something like the miniDSP/Dirac box. Also my raspberry Pi streamer has a HAT card in the case that does DSP (~$90 + shipping). I record my own music on a DAW, and what goes out the mastering bus is not always "flat" (on purpose). I prefer in concert recordings of live bands, and no matter how good the FOH guy is, the sound is not going to be studio quality.
@snowinokinawa
@snowinokinawa 6 месяцев назад
Hi Frank… I’ve got my brand-spanking-new Onkyo RZ70 Receiver arriving this weekend which has the built-in Dirac Live software, ready to drive & room-correct my 5.1.4 setup. With regards to REW vs Dirac, are they one and the same… ie if I’m using Dirac there’s no need to use REW? Or do they compliment each other in which case I should consider purchasing a MiniDSP Microphone? You seem like the expert , so I appreciate any feedback you can impart. Thanks! Nickolas
@KeithHeinrich
@KeithHeinrich 2 года назад
Good conversation. The trick being how does it sound at the listening position when done I guess. The SVS approach is convenient but once dialed in not a thing likely to be used again.
@chilledbongo
@chilledbongo 2 года назад
Actually I tweak mine constantly because sources vary drastically
@christinearmington
@christinearmington Год назад
“Automagically” - sweet 😁🎉
@martinweston7144
@martinweston7144 2 года назад
The SVS sounds like a great little sub for the price; I have the KEF KC62 and used it on the floor when I fist got it, I then tried it on a low metal stand that lifts it 15cm from the floor as a experiment, it seems to make the sub sound faster when on the stand, without any loss in bass, worth a try if you have one....I see a new REGA Planar 8 has been installed, can't wait for the review of that.
@dggbl9974
@dggbl9974 2 года назад
As a follow up would be nice to see a REL solution as they come from a slightly different angle on subwoofer integration which personally if found very easy to dial in.
@AtlantaGregg
@AtlantaGregg 2 года назад
John, I have recently gone from 1 sub, to 2, to 4 subs in my 5m by 4m room. All SVS SB1000 pros. Only $500 US each. Same great software and features as the Micro3000. I can adjust and synch them all from my listening seat in moments. Each time I’ve added subs it has reduced peaks and troughs (great for solo and partner listening) and and also increased headroom. Beautifully integrates with my KEF LS50 Wireless II. Would love for you to explore using multiple subs. Love your reviews! You are the best at what you do!
@wuzumaki
@wuzumaki Год назад
Are they connected to 4 different sub outputs, or did you use a Y-splitter?
@pb24dagrk
@pb24dagrk 2 года назад
Great review. One thing to mention about -3dB specs is that it doesn't mean much if it doesn't have an associated volume with it. The 11hz is likely at a lower volume than what SVS rates theirs at (85dB). However both subs would have even higher -3dB points when playing at 90 or higher volumes. Both subs are accurate so they would be playing the same "speed" to reproduce the frequencies. The SVS likely digs deeper in real world usage volumes and the lower frequencies with longer waveforms sound naturally "slower", giving the impression that the KEF is "tighter".
@DarkoAudio
@DarkoAudio 2 года назад
Agree completely re. -3dB specs being incomplete. And my comment on the same was axed from the final edit.
@pb24dagrk
@pb24dagrk 2 года назад
@@DarkoAudio Either way, fantastic video. I love that you went into details of how you set them up (and why you did certain things) which gives that context that's necessary...and the confidence that your subjective assessments are based on actual expert knowledge and experience haha. So when you say you like or don't like something, it means more and we can still decide for ourselves.
@FrankiusPrime17
@FrankiusPrime17 2 года назад
Great honest review. Plans on reviewing the new KEF LSX IIs?
@mohamedahmed1023
@mohamedahmed1023 2 года назад
Perfect summary of the SVS 3000 Micro. I have a pair of them in white- I went with these after owning dual Martin Logan subs. A great music and film sub. And I cannot underscore enough how important the app is. It makes the trial and error of dialing in a sub so simple. A lot of folks never dial in a sub (though if you have a sense of where to place and not place a sub and set the crossover, you can get most of the way there) correctly so live with compromised performance the entire time.
@bpalpha
@bpalpha 2 года назад
Y'know, I picked up a Velodyne spl8bg2 powdered subwoofer at an insanely low price and it is from 2003. Small subs have been around for a while. My new baby will do 28hz in room easily. This sub was also sold as something called the minivee. Excellent bass can come in small packages.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 2 года назад
I have a couple of older small subs too. They seem to do better in my tiny room; less boom, less muddy rumble sound. And with decent drivers you can still get a semblance of 20Hz. Room is a bit small to use mega subs for effortlessness
@maisonmallninja
@maisonmallninja 2 года назад
6:30 ...re: filming glossy surfaces: Keep a mic stand (with boom mic attachment) and a piece of 1x1m black cloth from a fabric store. You can bend the boom mic stand 90 degrees so it has an arm sticking out, and tape the black cloth to it. Then you just move the mic stand around to block the reflection you're dealing with. Total cost: $30-40 Industry standard 1x1m black flag negative fill: $150-300
@JohnTwo1
@JohnTwo1 2 года назад
I highly recommend the Arendal 1961 1s. It's a larger but less expensive closed sub with a 12" speaker. It has dsp as well which you can control on the sub without an app though. I also really like the matte finish. It's only 900€ with free shipping and a 5 year warranty.
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza 2 года назад
It would stomp these pretenders.
@audible67
@audible67 2 года назад
@@Roof_Pizza except that it really doesn't...
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza 2 года назад
@@audible67 Lemme guess, you also think a little 6 watt tube amp can keep up with the big boys.
@friedrichfrieling4519
@friedrichfrieling4519 2 года назад
Good thing about the Lyngdorf is also that you can just establish a new Voicing with a different bass output and switch just by clicking on it. Sorry, I just totally love the Tdai 🤣🙈 I use LS50‘s with two Kef Cube b in a 3x5m room.
@kristofferabild
@kristofferabild 2 года назад
Great video. Please test a REL subwoofer the next time 🙂
@billpetersenjr.5781
@billpetersenjr.5781 2 года назад
The hard part for me in speaker and sub selection is two fold: 1) speakers/sub that my wife can hear but not look at and 2) things my young kids won't mess about with. Next home will have a dedicated listening room and the SVS 3000 micro is on my list of potential upgrades when the move happens.
@twanshiiit
@twanshiiit Год назад
Same struggles
@jimfarrell4635
@jimfarrell4635 2 года назад
A real shame the SVS doesn't have high/speaker level inputs. Effectively rules it out for all of us integrated amp users without sub/preamp outputs. I use BK electronic subs. No DSP bells and whistles but all have speaker level inputs. REL are pretty good in that regard, too.
@michaelpaxhia7098
@michaelpaxhia7098 2 года назад
Not with the Micro 3000, but their slightly larger SB 1000 pro has both speaker level inputs and the app for EQ. Could be an option for those looking for a sub with both of those features
@bencausey
@bencausey 2 года назад
KEF Kube as well. 👍
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 2 года назад
You could probably get a speaker to line input converter.
@isaacestep3321
@isaacestep3321 2 года назад
@@RennieAsh i called SVS and they suggested something like that. not sure how well it works in practice but i guess i could try and return the thing if it don't work.
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 2 года назад
My KEF KC62 was amazingly easy to set-up and simply disappears---leaving a wonderfully deep & "location-less" bass sound. FYI: The KC62 is matched with a pair of KEF LS50 Metas. At a total investment of less than $3,000 USD, this combination may be the best cost-vs-performance high-end loud speaker system currently available. Highly recommended...
@piotrmajda5089
@piotrmajda5089 2 года назад
Hi John. Have your KC62 a issue with automatic turning on by low volume as a lot people mentioned about it?
@michaelhametner9780
@michaelhametner9780 2 года назад
Which amp are you using?
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 2 года назад
@@piotrmajda5089 Thus far, I have not noticed that issue.
@Donzimadness
@Donzimadness Год назад
Running two KC62,s setup as stereo pair and couldn’t be happier with the sound and ease of setup and integration with my LS 50 wireless two’s. Using a Lumin T2 streamer as my source and have increased detail and soundstage with this addition. Lumin app is very good. Saving now for a amp and Focal Sopra 2’s.
@brembofly
@brembofly Год назад
I’m a pretty new HiFi dummy and when I started I purchased a SVS Micro to go with KEF ls50 W2, spent a week or so with it and couldn’t get it integrated well or sound good to me at all so it was returned. Tried a KC62 and it immediately fell into place for me and loved the sound. As much as I really didn’t want to spend the cash for the KEF, it was easy for me keep. A smarter person than I may have gotten the Micro to integrate well but since I couldn’t, the KEF was an easy choice to settle (splurge)on. The beauty of the KEF cabinet was also a plus.
@mikhailyadav
@mikhailyadav Год назад
Lol. Same mate. The kc62 and ls50 are a perfect match. No drama required.
@kevtn8
@kevtn8 Год назад
How are you using Kc62 with your Metas ? Are you high passing the speakers or just using the low pass filter ? What about the location? I have Metas incoming and currently have Martin Logan sub but very curious about the integration of Kc62 with the Metas.
@reviewhero8639
@reviewhero8639 Год назад
Such a great informative video. Every RU-vidr should learn how to incorporate ads as you did. Didn't bother me at all. I currently have a 8" Kef Cube that just doesn't have the punch I need. Looking at the svs 3000 micro.
@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798
@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798 2 года назад
Outstanding review/comparison of these 2 premium micro-subwoofers; I am a big believer of "Don't Fix what Ain't Broke" & my listening revolves around 3 speakers, all stand-mounts: 1) Linn Kan Mk.1 circa 1980s; 2) KEF Q10/HTS2001 9.1 CH. circa 1990s-2000s; & 3) JBL S38II 5.1 CH. circa 2001. The Achilles Heel of all my systems has been the subwoofer, specifically their amplifiers & their performance in general. This Video has nailed my aspirations towards resolving this dilemma in the very dimensions I envision for my future media room. Mahalo, John🤩😘👍
@bluz93
@bluz93 2 года назад
Just out of curiosity, which subwoofer have you decided to buy?
@greginnocent438
@greginnocent438 2 года назад
Ive got 2 SVS 3000 micro's in my setup. I use them with a Michi X3 amp and a pair of B&W 705 signature speakers. Sounds amazing, however, it still needs a little bit more dialling in. I need to mess with the DSP settings in the subs as I have left these alone.
@TheChopcat
@TheChopcat 2 года назад
It would be interesting to see how these packaged and preset subs compare with a good old fashioned passive with something like a Hypex plate amp and a fiddle with the accompanying programmable filter software. It just seems that, like cars with sat navs in them, the inbuilt technology that you cant actually play with will become obsolete very quickly. Maybe with more “traditional” kit with the tech bit added on like the Hypex filter software, you can hang on to the main bits for much longer and update the software bits on their own.
@Walter-uy4or
@Walter-uy4or Год назад
Just got the Micro 3000 paired with Gallo Strada speakers and Bluesound Powernode. Quite happy with the 3000. It does have its limits. Unsurprisingly, it could not handle the cannons in the 1812 overture, but it did a very nice otherwise to the kind of music I listen to, mostly classical and female vocals.
@chrisy4011
@chrisy4011 11 месяцев назад
It can handle anything. The human ear can't hear anything below 20 hz anyway.
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance 3 месяца назад
Best. to have real cannons for that special occasion.
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance 2 месяца назад
I got the SVS micro because I have the prime wireless pro speakers and figured SVS would have tested the sub with their own gear. Placed it next to one of the speaker stands, fiddled with the app for an hour or two as I listened to music, and happy as a clam. Might be a savage as my only other sub was a dumpster diving find, but the micro and the wirelss pros sound very sweet to me. And watching vids - the sound via bluetooth is pretty awesome - I like how they have deep sounds even when turning on room lights. What an exciting TV world!!!
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius 2 года назад
Hi John, from my pro audio and hi end experience you’ll find more musicality by not trying to perfectly flatten the response. Leave one and a half dB to 2 dB variance
@lewb.8619
@lewb.8619 Год назад
DSP delay can be dealt with phase adjustment on the sub. SVS usually provides that on their amps directly or on their app. No need to move the sub .
@hunterhamish3099
@hunterhamish3099 2 года назад
I was thinking about using a MiniDSP HD with my Blue Sound Node for room correction. Would this work in this case with adding a sub in this instance?
@simianinc
@simianinc 2 года назад
Hi John, I now you've looked at the room correction of the NAD devices using Dirac. I'm curious to know if a miniDSP device would work, but it looks way more complex than just using the NAD. I think some of us would appreciate a video on this if it takes your fancy
@michaelhametner9780
@michaelhametner9780 2 года назад
Absolutely super video!! Thank you so much John for this kind of quality content. I can‘t help but wonder why almost no stereo amp offers the ability to adjust the time delay when adding a sub. Why is this? Does anyone know?
@cornwallfromtheair1503
@cornwallfromtheair1503 2 года назад
Hopefully sometime in the future a REL will arrive at Darko Towers for some consideration. Also perhaps a review of that P8.
@roccobruno8027
@roccobruno8027 Год назад
Subwoofers aside, I'm loving the Rega turntable.
@MM-cs2rt
@MM-cs2rt 2 года назад
I love my Pinnacle Baby Boomer sub. It’s small, but hits hard and low.
@vaggelix
@vaggelix 2 года назад
I'd love to see you try one of the large subs from svs or klipsch.
@glentan840
@glentan840 2 года назад
Unfortunately my wife took one look at the SVS, and removed it from the candidate list immediately. Guess we're buying the KC62 regardless of cost. They could work on their designs for a better W.A.F., and I hope they do as they seem to be of great quality.
@shughy1
@shughy1 2 года назад
Try placing a pic of your wife beside a pic of both subs, and see which one you want to keep 😃
@UniversalIndian-fh6st
@UniversalIndian-fh6st 2 года назад
@@shughy1 😄😁
@michaelhametner9780
@michaelhametner9780 2 года назад
@@shughy1 😂
@gfighter2400
@gfighter2400 Год назад
Get rid of the wife,problem solved!
@shadowfallenable
@shadowfallenable Год назад
I hear alot of men saying “my wife approved, my wife decided, my wife allowed, etc”…Electronics in the household, is a man responsibility. 🤷‍♂️
@Jon-nz3dm
@Jon-nz3dm 2 года назад
Kef has significantly less output in the 20-40hz region, so the 11hz spec listing is sort of silly. Not sure why they would have the DSP keep the infrasonic levels higher even at max output but let the audible region dip. I suppose having 11hz on paper(lower than massive dual 18" subwoofers listed spec) was a priority.
@NBPT428
@NBPT428 2 года назад
Excellent video as I'm considering a Powernode and Sub to build a good music listening system and possible dolby Surround/movie system. I was hoping that you would have put the SVS satellites in the review.
@milovacc1195
@milovacc1195 2 года назад
black , high gloss, grand piano finish equals elegance ......white sub , is showy and will clash with most wood flooring
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