'That was one that got me as well. The Death Doom Description was the Best . They would talk about cooking someone's liver, overcook it & then probably have a nervous breakdown over it. That killed me! Lol!'
>*suffers an otherwise debilitating disability* >*proceeds to aid in helping create a whole ass subgenre of rock n roll by just getting over it* If that ain't badass, nothing is.
It's why journalists (and bands) re-defined black metal in the early 90's. However, you STILL have twits running around screaming insane, stupid shit like "Morbid Angel is really black metal!" Trust me, NO ONE in their right mind thinks Morbid Angel is black metal. If the "first wave" definition of black metal were still applicable in this day and age, Running Wild would have been black metal, alongside Kind Diamond, Mercyful Fate, Hellhammer, and other NWOBHM bands who had satanic and/or lyrical thematics of the occult... Funny how we somehow "grew up" past that genre limiting nonsense!! Finality: Lyrical content DOES NOT TELL YOU what a band SOUNDS like...
Tony Iommy's accident happened on what was to be his last day of work, when Sabbath got their deal. His mother made him go in on his last day, when his fingers were caught in the metal shear. Although this type of injury would end the carreer of most musicians, Tony pushed through to become the guitar god he is...
Seriously, the algorithm has been like 90% solid for my particular tastes the last few months. Reading the comment sections on other videos verifies their new ML suggestion algorithm is on point
I feel like this entire series could start out with "Thrash can all be traced back to Black Sabbath with Sabotage" "Power Metal can all be traced back to Black Sabbath with Heaven and Hell" etc
I don't know how anyone could not consider Black Sabbath Doom Metal. When it comes to Traditional Doom, damn near every band sounds like Black Sabbath even down to the guitar tunes and that applies for newer bands today. They still play with the Ionni 70's guitar tune. If the other bands don't sound like Black Sabbath, they often sound like Pentagram did in the 70's and everything I said about Black Sabbath style applies to the Pentagram styled bands. They really stuck to their roots and it's very easy to trace this style back to both bands.
Here's my answer: traditional/stoner/psychedelic doom metal is not doom metal. Or death/gothic/funeral doom is not doom metal. These two groups should not share the same name and the bloodshed would stop.
well its sort of a paradox, if doom metal is music that sounds like black sabbath, how can black sabbath itself count? its like how 1 isn't a prime number.
"a doom band would sing about trying to eat someone's lungs but overcooking them and having an emotional breakdown as a result" oh yeah that hits the spot
@@squishykotetsu Then try Elysian Blaze's Blood Geometry. They make those seem like flat pancakes compared to their fat saucy selection double albumed with a full course breakfast with black metal pudding.
Surprised about Type O Negative's absence, they were green in a different way... part gothic, part hardcore, part psychedelic, part industrial but World Coming Down is one of dooms more scariest, personal, most crushing outputs for the genre. [EDIT] Would love you to do episodes dedicated to Folk, Industrial, Avantgarde, Electronic/Ambient and Gothic, as these are uniquely more aesthetic attachments that can be flexible towards any musical genre.
@@ismaelelizondo9952 I am even even more surprised there was nothing about Katatonia during the death/doom segment. And even even even more surprised not a single word about Paradise Lost or goth/doom. And even even even even more surprised Drone metal wasn't mentioned - If you consider it music, being an offshot of doom is as close as it gets (unless you want to draw comparisons with avant-garde, noise or industrial).
Yes! To me it’s the quintessential entry in the genre. I mean an 11 minute ponderous, grinding beast about hating yourself with faraway screams and a sprinkle of Gregorian chant for spice? Ugh. Sign me the fuck up.
Type O Negative definitely needs to be brought up in the doom metal conversation a whole lot more. They took doom, goth, thrash, hardcore punk, psychadelic, ambient, and all sorts of other shit and made something truly beautiful with the result. Losing Peter Steele was like losing a member of the Beatles, but it's metal. RIP Green Man. 🖤💚
You forgot Grief, Asunder and Thergothon as major contributors but otherwise accurate. Hell is blackened doom which wasn't touched on but is worth noting that doom fuses with a lot of metal genres. I'd also recommend Noothgrush and Meth Drinker on the sludge side, Aldebaran and Ramesses on the doom side.
Mikey Duff meh not really punk though the closest they got was helter skelter and that was as metal as it gets but it wasn’t in their blood to be so self destructive and full of anarchy so I really don’t blame them
@@anomalousresult yeah but they were pretty much genre-defining groups, especialy in the mid 90's, not mentioning them by name is kinda' weird. Not that this wasn't a great video tho.
While not exactly Doom Metal, the earliest example of Doom music theory I can think of is the song I Want You/She's So Heavy by the Beatles. Give it a listen. Specially in the later half of the song (She's So Heavy), the Doom element is pretty prevalent. Especially in the bass line.
@@APEX-qv7rm Supreme commander of pain? Pffft, not good enough. I demand to speak to your manager. Or else I will shower you with everything sweet and good. Stuff like puppies, rainbows cakes, laughter, and flowers. Don't make me throw in the fortune cookies too!
much Toni iommi and good Black SG Guitars of Devilry Honor also my Black Beauty Lespaul Custom of Gothic Honor Drop To HELL Tuning anyway glad to see SHAPE OF DESPAIR, AHAB, FUNERAL showing but the least of the good overlooked one goes look THE FROWNING, MESMUR , CONVOCATION for examples
Also with his fingers severed, it became a little more difficult to press the strings so he overcame this by detuning his strings and this became a big part in Sabbath's dark sound.
I’m glad to hear it! My favorite Pentagram album is probably the self-titled, if only for “All Your Sins”. Although Day of Reckoning is a worthy contender.
Excellent video with some bands to follow up on.... Could it be possible to do more of the sun genres in particular doom death and funeral doom?? And finally where do Neurosis fit in? One of the best metal bands ever....
I think a funeral doom specific video won't happen for a while, but I would like to do it eventually. The next bastardized history should be out later this week if all goes well.
Is Xasthur Black doom?? Funeral doom?? Yours analysis of Doom make me enlightenment!!The first Doom I heard about was UK hardcore's punk band...my favourite as Anti Cimax and Discharge...
I know this is a semi-parody, but Cathedral gets just a little side joke as a mention, and not even a respectful side joke at that? Get real. If Forest of EquilibriUm isn’t the pinnacle of doom metal, then Endtyme most certainly is. I’ve given almost all of those other bands a real and honest listen, wide open to the hierarchy apparent, but in reality, there is Black Sabbath, and then there is Cathedral, ALL others fall in line behind the greats. For sure there are dissenters, but why, because some believe that at some point Cathedral sold out? Ever heard Heaven and Hell? Not a great moment for Sabbath. Cathedral released almost ten times the catalog of any group mentioned here, including Sabbath, and of course more albums and songs NEVER equals a better band, but more GREAT ALBUMS AND SONGS do equal a greater band. Cathedral IS DOOM METAL. To deride them is an abomination of all that is heavier than thou, crushing, and most of all, soul quenching. Just because a riff is catchy and fucking badass doesn’t remove it from the apex of doom. Into the Void, anyone? NIB, anyone? Without these, what followed would never have followed. I’ve tried my best at St. Vitus, Pentagram, Witchfinder, etc. To me, they are all sophomoric attempts born in the basement, and never should have left. Sorry. Go play Endtyme, turn it the fuck up, bury your preconceived notions, and tell me it is not the epitome of doom. Fucking right it is. That album is heavier, groovier, more beautiful and ugly than almost any other, save Vol. IV. Cathedral being cast as also rams here is true doom blasphemy. Unless that is the whole point of this parody. In which case I missed the point and you all are granted another day of breath.
I believe black sabbath hadn't formed when he lost his fingers. But he did cut pieces off his leather jacket to attach to the ends of his new plastic bottlecap fingertip prosthetics to better grip the strings. Metal af. Black sabbath off black sabbath self titled album is pure doom
While Sabbath may have solidified doom metal (and metal in general) as its own genre, the groundwork for it has been laid as far back as Abbey Road, with the track “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)”. You heard me right, the Beatles were doomers before it was cool.
The outro distortion, the pounding drums, the jumping bass, the agressive riffs, the urge to get louder. All keys to what makes this song true proto-DOOM. Only a few months later would Sabbath record the doom metal juggernaut, "Black Sabbath".
I really like that you mentioned Crowbar and Acid Bath. I live an hour south of New Orleans. I'm from the same town as a couple of the Acid Bath members and a distant cousin of Sammy Duet...I wish you would have mentioned Shrum. That was another project of Audie Pitre (bass player of Acid Bath) and Tommy Viator (drummer Disincarnate). Please check out Shrum. There's no other band in this world like them. It's 2 distorted bass guitars (no 6 strings guitars whatsoever), keyboards and industrial drums.
I just checked them, awesome and unique. Love all kinds of not-that typical sludge bands like Floor and Torche (melodies! vocals!), Fudge Tunel (grunge/aphetamine reptile noise rock mixed with sludge!), Buzzoven (fast noise punk!), Drug Honkey (noise and weird samples), Burning Witch (vocals!), Adolf Satan (nooooise), maybe even Halo (sludge core version of godflesh I guess) and Suma or two polish bands which are not-that-sludge-but-somehow-sludge-noise-punk things: Smar SW "Samobojstwo" and Filth of mankind. Such a great variety, not clones of clones of Eyehategod or Grief, whereas most of stoner doom bands sound exactly the same.
