A Brief History Of The Trinity 

In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. 1. Say, “He is God, the One. 2. God, the Absolute. 3. He begets not, nor was He begotten. 4. And there is nothing comparable to Him.”

Trinity, the belief that 1+ 1 +1 =1 😂

RU-vid mystically split this video in to three parts for me. Blessed be the adverts.

I watched this video in its entirety and sincerely appreciate all your research. I have to keep in mind that these early "church fathers" had government backing and severely persecuted all those that opposed their school of thought. They were responsible for the murder of millions throughout their reign. They removed much if not all the Hebrew names that referenced the creator. Even the name Jesus is a replacement. Why? Surely they were able to pronounce the name Yahusha. I see a lot of ancient Babylon religion influence in this video and sort of understand why John saw this system as a beast. It was very different from what he experienced.

"Luke" and "Acts" were written by the same anonymous author. Note that "Acts" was originally called "Luke 2".

A doctrine that cannot be properly explained or understood, yet, those who hold to it say it's essential for salvation. Let's just all agree what scripture says, one God and that God was in Jesus reconciling the world to himself.

Just found your videos man, keep up the good work.

Wow, this was very enlightening. I've been fed this lie that the trinitarian view was the original doctrine of the early christians, but here we see clearly the development of the doctrine. Maybe political reasons were involved, but I no longer believe that the trinity was the original teaching of Jesus Christ and His disciples.

Only 1 singular spirit.GOD...who has decided to reveal himself in 3 fiff ways to us his creation...SIMPLE.

Outstanding research and narrative, thank you.

One thing I liked about this video is the impartial nature of documentation due to atheism. I have gone the same route in explaining the doctrine before but not without prejudice against the other views as heresies due to my beliefs as a Catholic. Despite my reservations on some views presented, like on Aquinas, I think you guys have done a great work on this video. Keep it up!

Very informative, however I would have added Tertullian thoughts on the Trinity as he was the first to mention it (circa 180 c.e.)

The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)

Just knowing that many rejected the Trinity lets me know how confusing and stupid it is.

Why does god need to be defended by humans?

Trust in Jesus Christ (Yahshua) i try Him and He change my life! From a drug addict, fool in the streets, a crook and no good son to a Deacon in His house, a marry man with a lovely wife! Cuz He say, if any man be in Christ, he's a new creature, old things past away, behold all thing's become new. So i am a witnesses amd ambassador for Jesus Christ( Yahshua) my Lord and Savior!😂

Many different theological academics using their imagination to fabricate various descriptions of a Magical Being with multiple personalities, two male human bodies, and one invisible bird body , who transcends time, has infinite power, created everything and expects very specific behavior from every human .... We are told the Magical Being demands worship and needs our love, which we are obligated to give.... There is NO agreement on details... Yet anyone who gets the details wrong receives (and deserves) eternal punishment......

The revelation of God is only for born again christians...

ONE SPIRIT OF GOD. You can't add the Spirit if it is the Same Spirit of God. God is Holy Spirit + Jesus Holy Spirit is from God + The Holy Spirit = ONE CLEAR AND SIMPLE

Can you explain Old Testament 1st chapter

The most sensible thing I've heard from anyone in any discussion regarding the trinity and where we are today with it. Two kinds of Christians: Those who know they can't understand the trinity, and Those who think they understand it but don't. Thank you for that piece of wisdom! Worth the price of admission right there!

Excellent video! Thanks for posting this. I seldom hear much about the debates and conflicts within Christianity from 100 to 300 A.D., but they explain a lot about the weird doctrines that ultimately evolved. Thanks also for presenting it factually and straightforwardly, without the sarcasm and chest-thumping that often attends information that discredits Christianity.

I gotta see if you guys cover the Nicean Council of 325CE. That one must have been fun.

Others/atheist - one God / one divine power Christianity - God is one but 3 , and 3 is god , and god is 3 but 1 ,but 3 is 1 and one is 3 ... and and and and goes on till they die 😂😂

look at the white dude *FLOATING* with the ROBE on In the picture....that's crazy?😂

There is a man in our neighborhood that talks to himself, but he never gets an answer from the neighbors roommate who tells him what to do.

Luke 3:22 doesn't say "You are my beloved son, today I have begotten you", it says "You are my beloved son in you I am well pleased". There is a variant that says the former, but most translations don't include as it is mostly found in later latin manuscripts rather than earlier greek ones. Just thought you should know as some might use that to diminish everything else you said in the video

"At what point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid shit that somebody made up?" -George Carlin

A brief history of the false doctrine of the trinity from 321 A.D. to 2023 A.D.

The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit comes from the Roman Catholic Church 325CE. The English word "Trinity" comes from Latin "Trinitas", meaning "the number three". The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed advanced and refined by Athanasius in the last decades of his life. The word 'trinity' appears nowhere in the Bible; the concept was finalized at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE after years of debate. The Scriptures from the beginning have been altered by evil men who live by the Talmud and also altered by evil men of the Roman Catholic Church (Doctrine). Everywhere it reads Holy Spirit is supposed to be read "Holy Power." I believe the original koine Greek word for Spirit means "Power". I believe Elohim in Hebrew means "2 Personalities." There were only 2 Personalities in the Beginning. TETRAGRAMMATON and YEHOSHUA were there. TETRAGRAMMATON says in Isaiah 45:12 “I have made the earth, and created man upon it: even My Hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.” So, TETRAGRAMMATON used His own Hands to Physically make the World. The Bible says: 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. It does not say His Spirit make anything. It doesn't say YEHOSHUA made anything It reads that He, Himself TETRAGRAMMATON in the beginning created the heaven and the earth. Putting things into perspective: In the beginning TETRAGRAMMATON created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Power of TETRAGRAMMATON moved upon the face of the waters. I TETRAGRAMMATON have made the earth, and created man upon it: even my Hands, have stretched out the heavens. By the Way TETRAGRAMMATON is our GOD's Name that He told Moses. I am the Lord "TETRAGRAMMATON", I am the Lord TETRAGRAMMATON, and my "Name" shall be remembered from generation to generation. TETRAGRAMMATON Name has been replaced over 5,000 times in the Old Testament by the word "GOD." If I asked you who is your father, you will tell me his name. When YEHOSHUA was asked who his Father was, he would have said my Father is the Lord TETRAGRAMMATON. The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit comes from the Roman Catholic Church 325CE. The English word "Trinity" comes from Latin "Trinitas", meaning "the number three". The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed advanced and refined by Athanasius in the last decades of his life. The word 'trinity' appears nowhere in the Bible; the concept was finalized at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE after years of debate. The Scriptures from the beginning have been altered by evil men who live by the Talmud and also altered by evil men of the Roman Catholic Church (Doctrine). Everywhere it reads Holy Spirit is supposed to be read "Holy Power." I believe the original koine Greek word for Spirit means "Power". I believe Elohim in Hebrew means "2 Personalities." There were only 2 Personalities in the Beginning. TETRAGRAMMATON and YEHOSHUA were there. TETRAGRAMMATON says in Isaiah 45:12 “I have made the earth, and created man upon it: even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.” So, TETRAGRAMMATON used His own Hands and Power to Physically make the World. The Bible says: 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. It does not say His Spirit make anything. It doesn't say YEHOSHUA made anything. It reads that He, Himself TETRAGRAMMATON in the beginning created the heaven and the earth. Putting things into perspective: In the beginning TETRAGRAMMATON created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Power of TETRAGRAMMATON moved upon the face of the waters. I TETRAGRAMMATON have made the earth, and created man upon it: even My Hands, have stretched out the heavens. By the Way TETRAGRAMMATON is our GOD'S Name that He told Moses. I am the Lord "TETRAGRAMMATON", I am the Lord TETRAGRAMMATON, and my "Name" shall be remembered from generation to generation. TETRAGRAMMATON Name has been replaced over 5,000 times in the Old Testament by the word "GOD." If I asked you who is your father, you will tell me his name. When YEHOSHUA was asked who his Father was, he would have said the Lord TETRAGRAMMATON. TETRAGRAMMATON’S Name was still known at the time of YEOHSHUA ministry, and TETRAGRAMMATON’S Name was also known by other people of other religions having His Name recorded in ancient documents of other. TETRAGRAMMATON name was not put in koine Greek New Testament when it was made because there was the idea that anyone who reads "GOD" would automatically know and remember it means "TETRAGRAMMATON". Evil men from the beginning have kept vital information from us about our Creator. Aspects of Rendering the Sacred Tetragrammaton in Greek www.academia.edu/10457621/_Aspects_of_rendering_the_sacred_Tetragrammaton_in_Greek This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.

Every one of those doctrines sounds like schizophrenic word salad to me. Can't make tails or heads of it.

Interesting to note that the Nicean council was about convincing an emperor who was right or wrong, and who deserved to be killed simply on beleif alone... A historic case of perpetrators claiming to be the victims, just like today.

Nice video, I always explained the trinity with instanceism (a concept I though about while learning programming (I think it resembles modeisim)). There is one abstract God-process, but 3 God threads that all report back to the process and get instructions from it. Well I would have been excommunicate quiet quickly back in the day.

John 13:3 "So Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hand and that HE CAME FROM GOD AND WAS GOING TO GOD." 1 Corinthians 15:27 GOD SUBJECTED ALL THINGS under Jesus feet. But when God says that All THINGS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED it is evident that THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ONE who subjected all things to Jesus. John 8:55 Jesus said, "yet, you have not known him, but I know him. I would be like you a liar. But I do know him and am observing HIS word. John 11:41, 42 "So they took the stone away. Then Jesus raised his eyes heavenward and said: Father I thank you that you have heard me. True, I knew that you always hear me; but I spoke on account of the crowd standing around so that they may believe that YOU SENT ME.* Acts 2:33 Therefore because he was EXALTED TO THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD and received the promise holy spirit FROM THE FATHER he has poured out what you see and hear." Romans 8:34 Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died yes more than that the one who was raised up who is at the RIGHT HAND OF GOD and also PLEADS for us.* John 17; I0,11 Jesus prayed: "and all my things are yours and yours are mine, and I have been glorified among them. I am no longer in the world and I AM COMING TO YOU. Holy Father watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me, do that THEY MAY BE ONE JUST AS WE ARE ONE." Revelation 3:12 Jesus said concerning himself; "He who conquers I will make him a pillar in the temple of MY GOD never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD the new Jerusalem which come down from MY GOD out of heaven, and my own new name."

Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” think of a cluster of grapes “Hear, O Israel: The cluster is one cluster but many grapes. Thank about that before you tear the Trinity down. Hmm

A lucid, valuable, and informative series of videos....free of polemic, abuse aimed at other views, and the all too frequent pathological anti-Semitism. Thank you.

Wasn't all the reasoning behind the trinity a desperate attempt not to be polytheist like the pagans?

Great information, superb delivery..

Lacks a bunch of the comprehensive and compelling examples from scripture which support the eternal divinity of Christ though? This is like a JWs teaching tape, excludes the 'offending' instances. I will give you one, who is worshipped in heaven in John's Apocalypse - who is on the throne? The Lamb of God.

This is embarrassing. Obviously you read a very dated book, perhaps even two, about a very complex piece of intellectual history. But clearly you don't understand much of what you've read.

Ahhhh, punctuation. Without it, confusion and misunderstanding ensues. Thank you for the input on these topics and others in other videos.

Amazing ! the amount of mental and physical and emotional energy that has been spent over the last 2000 years give or take , in order to rationalize and explain something that is completely imaginary ! Amazing !

the bias is clear in this vid. you talk about a Christian cult's argument and you say "makes sense" yet when you mention Tertullian's argument you say "it's clear he had some issues with the modalist view." you could at least try to be objective. also everything you said about Montanism is wrong... it doesn't even have anything to do with the trinity. it has to do with prophesy...

WHAT IS AMAZING IS THE TRINITY 🔯✝️🕎.!!!!! . HOW DARE , MAN 👨 LIMIT GOD .!!!!!! . HE IS BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING .!!!!! . NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE , TO GOD .!!!!!!! . IF , ( THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS IT ? ) . I ACCEPT IT .!!!!!!! . LETERRLY .!!!!!!!! .👍📚📖📚👍❤️🔯✝️🕎🙏🏾.....HAVE U NOT , READ , ( HEBREW CHAPTER 11.) .....

There was no Trinity when translated from Greek.

They were trying to make sense of a thing with no sense in it. It can't be done.

Trying to learn a bit more about religion and the history that surrounds it. Holy Jeebus Cripes . . . the mental gymnastics I have to go through in order to have this book of nonsense justified is, quite frankly, becoming too exhausting for me to give a shit any more.

John 6 : 28 - 29 "They said to him, what are we to do to do the works of God? Jesus answered : This is the work of God, to believe in him whom He has sent."

Arianism and adoptive theory sounds more affiliated teaches of islam

COME ON DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS CRAP?

The best way to explain this concept is that it developed gradually. You won’t find it anywhere in the Pauline letters, the oldest writings in the New Testament. You won’t find it in the Gospel of Mark, the oldest of the four gospels, likely written around 70 CE. You won’t find it in either Matthew or Luke, both probably written in around 80-90 CE. The closest thing you'll find to it is in John, the last of the Gospels usually dated 90-110 CE. Despite the traditional ascriptions all four are anonymous, and none were written by eyewitnesses. Like the rest of the New Testament, they were written in Greek. And by the time you get to it, something has evidently changed in the Christian community, which has gone from mostly Jewish to mostly non-Jewish. The original followers believed that Jesus was a man who had been anointed by God because of his righteousness. They kept Shabbat and were basically Jewish apocalypticists who just happened to see Jesus as the Jewish Messiah through whom the Jewish God would bring about the redemption of the Jewish people. One of the unintended consequences of bringing in so many gentiles into the new faith was that ideas which could never have gained widespread popularity among Jews, such as the divinity of a man, were all of a sudden very possible, especially since the population of converts were ancient Mediterranean pagans, for whom the idea of divine and semi-divine men was very common. Slowly, Jesus went from Chosen One of God to Son of God to God. By the time the Gospel of John is written, all Jesus is doing is going around talking about his divinity. But in spite of all this, the only mention of something like the Trinity is in the First Epistle of John: 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Seems clear enough. But there is a huge problem. The books of the New Testament were written in Greek. You can find this passage in the Vulgate, a version of the Bible translated from Greek to Latin. But the passage is not found in any of the old Greek manuscripts. In fact, you don’t find it in any Greek manuscript in the first millennium. It’s not until the 14th century that you find a Greek manuscript containing this passage! This is a medieval fabrication, fabricated precisely because people were bothered by the fact that the Trinity had no basis whatsoever in scripture. Here’s how the passage originally appears in Greek: 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. No mention of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit/Ghost formulation we are so familiar with. Where, then, did this come from? One of the easiest ways to get into trouble as a medieval theologian was to write a treatise on the Holy Spirit. If you did this, you would immediately find scores of people who strongly disagreed with you. Because the concept of the Holy Spirit is so ill-defined in scripture, the void is filled by imagination, and this imagination manifests itself very differently in different people. Something like that seems to have happened with the nature of Christ in the early centuries of Christianity. You had all kinds of groups arguing about whether Jesus was all human or all divine, whether he had one nature or two, whether he was the same person as God the Father, or a different one. People like Marcion thought the Old Testament deity was an evil deity that had nothing to do with the God of Jesus. People like the Modalists thought that Jesus, the Father, and Spirit were just different modes of being of the same person. The Father was father to the Son, just as my father is father to me and son to his father. There were people who thought that Jesus was all divine and just appeared to have had a body. And there was one group who was opposed to all these groups. Theirs was an ill-defined position. They just knew that: (1) They didn’t think Jesus was fully human: he was divine, son of God, but not created, True God, deum verum, dammit. (2) They didn’t think he was fully divine: he had a real body that bled, dammit. (3) There weren’t 3 modes of the same person. Elsewise, whom was Jesus praying to when he was on the cross? To himself? This group with ill-defined beliefs ended up winning the political battle. They saw themselves as orthodox-that is of right/correct belief/doctrine-and everyone else as heretics. And they codified their beliefs in the Nicene Creed. The Trinitarian Christology that emerged from their rejection of other beliefs is the only thing they could come up with that would meld their various stances into one sort of coherent whole. Because the result still didn’t make logical sense, it required faith to accept it as a mystery.

I'm a Christian. I don't believe in the trinity. Yes I agree that a huge majority of Christians refuse to reason on this subject. I also agree atheists refuse to reason how we have what we have without supernatural. Creation could not have been natural. The first step is admitting that creation had to be supernatural. The next step is finding who or what did it.

Excellent work. I studied the History of Christianity and thought that if it was taught at school as it is; then we would have had churches empty.

Jesus says in John chapter 7 verse 17 he's really saying that the Bible is not his teaching and it's not from him he says it's the one who sent me so if Jesus Is God man whatever and is deity he still cannot lie no matter what form he's in so that out of raise a flag right there 1st Corinthians Jesus says he's going to hand the kingdom back over to his father that sounds kind of weird that's a flag to Revelation chapter 1 God gave Jesus a revelation that that's definitely a flag if Jesus Christ is God Almighty why doesn't he know the own Revelation why did God have to give it to him so that shows somebody had headship

This belief stuff is absolutely exhausting! Glad I am an atheist.

Great channel! Sorry that you live in Milwaukee.

The real Trinity. Your born, you live, you die.

I find it truly amazing how complex the worship of an imaginary being had become. It's like hearing a room full of idiots arguing over the color of unicorns.

LUKE 6:12 is clear and reasonable .. (King James Bible) "And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer TO GOD." ** If Jesus were God, he wouldn't need to pray ( TO GOD )

The Divine Trinity MANIFESTED in Jesus baptism at the Jordan river...

God is God and jesus was a prophet plain and simple

Excellent explanation of an irrational construct. To think that we were created by a god and forget that it was mommy and daddy having a great time is ridiculous.

The Qur'an is God's Words: In the name of Allah(God), The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. All besides those believers who have pure faith, irrespective of which religious background they claim to have come from, merely a single sign would suffice them to believe in the existence of One God, whether it be a sign concerning a scientific phenomenon or any other sign. Where as, on the other hand, there are people who would never believe even if a thousand signs are presented to them, such people would never accept faith and as such they are the Rejectors; there may be a third sect/group/category of people who may be convinced if proper efforts are made, either by means of science and technology, or by reasoning and with logic or by any other technique. As today is the age of science and technology, the best approach we have is the use of scientifically proven and established facts, excluding hypotheses and theories (which lack solid evidence) in order to convince an atheist or an agnostic or any other individual who may not believe that the Qur'an is the revelation of God, as no human being could ever mention such scientific facts in the Qur'an, 14 centuries back which the humanity has unveiled/discovered very recently,with the help of rapidly growing technology and the advances made by the modern scientific world. Majority of the people who disagree with the fact that the Qur'an has been sent down by God, revealed to the last and final messenger and servant of God, i.e. prophet Mohammad (pbuh), when asked about the reason they disbelieve, what they come up with is that they falsely claim that the Qur'an must have been written by prophet Mohammad himself as they do not have any better explanation for not believing in the Qur'an or Allah. With the help of mathematics, we can refute their baseless claim (that Muhammad is the author of the Qur'an, they even fail to realise that he was an Ummi,i.e. he was unlettered/illiterate!). Nevertheless,even for the sake of an argument, let us be kind enough to give them a benefit of doubt, and say that may be, prophet Muhammad wrote the Qur'an (though we never agree!). Now we shall refute their false claim with the help of what we know in mathematics as 'The Probability Theory'. Probability is basically concerned with the likelihood or the chance of something happening/taking place or not happening for which we make certain guesses/flukes or predictions at random and calculate the chance of our choice or guess coming true as a number or percentage. Probability has a range of 0-1. Having a probability of 0 implies the impossibility of the occurence of the event we are dealing with, on the other hand, probability of 1 means that the event is sure to occur, thus affirming a 100% possibility of the occurrence of the event we are dealing with. Any number in between would indicate that the event may either occur or not. For example,if you toss or flip a coin(fair), there are(a total of), two possibilities, it may either land up with a head or tail, whatever choice you make the mathematical chance/probability of your guess being rightat random is 1 out of 2,i.e. 1/2 or 50%. Further, if you have a die (having 6 faces) and you roll it, the chance of your guess-number coming on the top is 1/6 as there are a total of 6 distinct choices to make. Similarly,if you roll the die 2 times in succession/consecutively or roll two dice simultaneously (both yield the same result, these are termed as 'independent events' meaning that the two (or more) events have no influence/impact on one another; they yield independent results) what you'll see is, the probability of both your choices being right at the same time is merely (1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/36 which is < 3%. Now,if you roll the die 3 times successively,the chance of you making the right choice all three times,just at random is (1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/216 which is < 0.5%. Let us now consider the compound event of tossing the coin 2 times and rolling the die 4 times,the probability of you making the correct choices all 6 times is therefore (1/2)×(1/2)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)=(1/2)^2 × (1/6)^4 =(1/4)×(1/1296)=1/5184 which is ~ 0.02%. Let me generalize the method for you. If you repeat an experiment for n different times and all of which must deal with independent events as in our case here, fortunately; and you have a probability of, say 'p' for each of the individual events and of course 0 < p < 1. Now you want to calculate the probability of you making the correct choice all 'n' times i.e. each time you making the right choice without a single mistake.. It is p^n,i.e. 'p' raised to the power of 'n'. For those who are good at maths, they can readily see that this number, p^n quickly reaches 0 when |p| < 1 and n is let increase!! Praise be to Allah SWT,all the Qur'anic verses that talk about scientific phenomena can be modelled as ' the independent events' in this very analysis of ours. And the holy Qur'an contains more than 1,000 (out of more than 6,000 verses in total) verses which speak about science. And more than 800 of which have already been supported by established scientific facts. 1. For example, the Qur'an says that the light of the moon is not its own light but rather, it is the reflected light of the sun (the moon reflects the light from the sun onto the earth), for this one people (at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an,i.e. at the time of the prophet) could have made two choices (if they were asked, hypothetically) i.e. the light of the moon could be the light of its own or it could be the borrowed light of the sun. 2. Similarly, the Qur'an talks about the spherical shape (more accurately, the geo-spherical shape, as the earth is slightly flattened at the poles and slightly bulging out at the equatorial region,i.e. the 'circle of maximum diameter'). People could have thought of various shapes for the earth such as flat, triangular,rectangular etc. So, lfor this particular one, the number of choices would be more than 2. 3. The Qur'an states that the Sun also rotates (about its own axis)...people couldn't even have thought of this, at the time of the prophet as this one is a very very recent discovery, we came to know about this hardly a few decades earlier. So even for this particular one, there would be 2 choices to make, the Sun may either rotate or not! (For the sake of argument only!) 4. The Qur'an talks, in a nutshell, about the birth of our universe which the scientists today call the Big Bang, it may be right or wrong. ..So for this too, we would have 2 choices. 5. The Qur'an talks about the interstellar matter, called 'plasma' by the scientists. Again, could be right or wrong. ..So 2 choices for this too. 6. The Qur'an states that our universe has been expanding. Again, could be right or wrong. .So for this too, we have 2 choices. And so on.. The Qur'an talks about scientific phenomena,over and over again, for more than 1,000 times. Each verse which talk about a scientific phenomenon, can be attributed a number of choices we can think of, as above. These choices vary, from 2 (which is the least/minimum number of choices) to larger numbers, for instance,in the case of the earth, we could think of more than a dozen of possible shapes! Let's restrict ourselves to 2 (as the number of choices), clearly seeing that even the least number of choices would give us the desired result and if we consider more number of choices, we get to the result even more quickly. As a challenge to the people, I'll prove my logic even with the least number of choices as the Qur'an, with no doubts, is the book of God. Proceeding with 2 choices as the flukes/guesses for each of the verses which speak about science, what we find is, the probability or the mathematical chance of one making the correct choice all 800 times, i.e. making the right choice for each of the verses each and every single time is... Using, probability = p^n with p = 1/2 and n = 800... Probability(P) = (1/2)^800 = 1/(2)^800 The number 2^800, i.e. 2 raised to the power of 800 is a very huge number though it may not appear so, so huge that the number 1/(2)^800 is literally negligible and is considered 0 (zero/nill) in practical mathematics. The number of choices that could be thought of,for the scientific verses of the Qur'an is not merely 2 as we have used above!! We could've used more than 2 choices in which case we'd have arrived at the answer of 0 even more quickly. So,even in the most probable case (using the least number of choices, i.e.2), the probability of the scientific verses being written in the noble Qur'an by (any) a human being is 0. The Qur'an,thus,can never be the work of a human. It must have come from a divine source. The only being Who could mention such facts in the Qur'an must be the Creator Himself Who possesses All The Knowledge. Peace be on you all.

My me, my me, why have I forsaken myself? If you disagree with that wording, you're saying that Jesus was not God. If you do not disagree with that wording, you're saying that Jesus *was* God, but that he/they are batshit insane.

The only thing that is a mystery about the Trinity, is how you do not understand the Trinity is false, which is why you cant understand your faith, because you simply believe in whats false. There is NOT a single word or teaching in the whole Bible teaching The ONE TRUE GOD is THREE persons, proving you people believe and follow what is not Biblical.

If they just had Jesus be a prophet, they could have avoided this mess, but nooooooo..., they had to make him a deity.

Erasmus was NOT the first Greek translation of New Testament, the New Testament was written in Greek and the Vulgate was translated FROM the Greek, and the Greek Orthodox community had Greek New Testaments LONG before Erasmus! Erasmus was in fact the SECOND Greek New Testament to be printed as a book rather than copied as a manuscript, some sloppy research from the get go.

You should start your story from much earlier: The first recorded use of Greek word τριάς, in Christian theology was by Theophilus of Antioch in about the year 170.

The First Christians Were Jews. People Tend To Overlook This All Important Fact. The Book Of Acts Record The Start Of Christianity And The Trinity Isn't Taught. Is This Coincidental? Jewish People By Way Of Faith Are Monotheistic: Belief In One God. Question Is: Where Did It Come From? Because One Thing Is True The Apostles Didn't Teach It.

The longest comments in all of YT are in videos debunking Christianity.

I was raised in a Roman Catholic household (though I have always been atheist) and I could never get a grasp on wtf the holy ghost is even supposed to be or where it came from

Weird how the most nonsensical version became the official one. The earlier doctrines at least tried to make some sense, but the official one is outright nonsense. It literally makes no sense and is like saying that something is a cat and a dog at the same time or that a chair is also two chairs while being one chair

Sounds like an infinite being trying to be defined by finite substance and abstraction.

You should know that the first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by Tertullian. It was new. A new a new and strange doctrine based on paganism. At the time of the construction of Babylon at the Tower of Babel, mankind had multiplied and spoken one language. (Genesis 11:1-4) Cush who was the son of Ham and grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:1, 6), helped to plan with his son Nimrod, a way to rule the world through a wicked counterfeit religion. In Genesis 10:6-20 where it gives the names of the sons of HAM; CUSH is listed. In verse 8, it says Cush begat NIMROD. The absolute beginnings of the three in one God (trinity) or God in three persons doctrine, goes right back to the Tower of Babel on the plain of Shinar by the River Euphrates many generations after the flood. The bible says Nimrod was a mighty hunter “before the Lord” But this doesn’t mean Nimrod was a righteous man, he was wicked before the Lord. Nimrod was famous and his name is similar to the Hebrew word “rebellion.” It’s well known that Nimrod married his own mother Semiramis. She was the first deified queen of Babylon and Nimrod was the first deified king. There’s too much to share in this comment section, but I have tons of evidence and proof the Trinity stems from paganism and the Catholic Church, which is pagan masterpiece of Satan pushes this doctrine and has deceived many, as God word says. The trinity got its start in Ancient Babylon with Nimrod, Tammuz, and Semiramis. If God had not interfered and confused the languages, then we would have had no hope of any truth that we have today. We find theworship of a three in ONE God carried to all the different cultures that we have today, but they took on different names since God had confused the languages as we find in Genesis 11. In Egypt, their trinity became Osiris, Horus and Isis. In Greece it was Zeus, Apollo and Athena. And in India there was Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. The yellow halo around their heads which represents the sun god. The system of Rome adopted the same symbol where you see saints with a halo around their head, as in the Catholic church. Most tend to think that this means they are resumed “holy” but it actually represents the sun god. And speaking of Rome, they had Jupiter, Mars and Venus. The phrase “only begotten” has been ammunition for false teachers since at least the fourth century at the Council of Nicea. The prophecy of Micah 5:2 promised that our God would take on human flesh. It is clear from Matthew 2:1-6 that this prophecy was fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ, who was God as a man. Jesus Christ, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood; truly God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

According to the concept & diagram of Trinity, "The Son is not the Holy Spirit". But the Bible tells when Jesus spoke to his disciples after His resurrection, He said " Receive the Holy Spirit. John 20:22. The Father is Holy Spirit. God is spirit. The Son is Holy Spirit. Resurrected Jesus The Holy Spirit is Spirit. No three appearance can be made into one equality or one appearance? If three of them are different appearance, then one will be greater and the others smaller coz for the Son of Man was given to us later in the age of Grace after the old age. There is only one God one Spirit. He is Holy Spirit Himself. Jesus Christ was Son and as well as Father in Heaven. How? The father(Jehovah God of Israel) in heaven had the prophecy to dwell among mankind as a son of man, so it's possible only if God come as a flesh to dwell among men and bear the testimony of humanity. If God doesn't come as a flesh His plan to speak more truth to mankind would not have been successful, and the sin offering won't have been successful. Many say Jesus & Father are different appearance. But Jesus Himself told I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. Jesus had to preach to mankind taking the world "Father", coz if He said Himself was God, none would believe Him, also He was limited coz he was human and doesn't have full authority to speak everything among man, coz what ever he spoke was not Him but the father that dwells in Him. so to make people understand that God is in Heaven, He said our Father in heaven. Also Jesus said, "The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. Why would He say that? Coz He was God that came in flesh, God had the authority to speak from Jesus flesh, coz Jesus was not born of flesh and blood but by the spirit of God. Jesus called the Spirit in Heaven father, coz God's spirit is omnipotent and the destiny of God's spirit is in heaven, since Jesus was away from his destination to heaven when he came among mankind, He called "father in heaven" as a created being, and to express mankind that God is in heaven. Only God himself can tell mankind what God has and is. The spirit of the Father was in Jesus words that's y Jesus was divine and God Himself. But Jesus was limited to work as God coz he posses humanity, all His works were under God's authority and plan, that's the reason Jesus is God. The appearance of the flesh of Jesus is temporary but the words and his works are truth and divine and done by God Himself. Therefore Jesus teaches, if u worship God, worship the spirit. Trinity is a man made doctrines & man's imagination. Follow God not man. After all Trinity is based on appearance of God. Appearance of God can't save. So, it's not the key point of salvation, word of God are the key of salvation and truth. Even we see God face to face we can't be Holy unless we follow His footsteps. So it's foolish to follow man made doctrines.

Thank you for the history, very much enjoyed the lesson. I firmly believe that at it’s core religion in all forms is humanity’s search of it’s identity. I’ve always found the Trinity confusing, and yet its always basically said to me... God as father is GOD. God as son is humanity personified in Jesus. God as Holy Spirt is that which we feel but can’t describe verbally. I know that that is not what is as of me when pledging allegiance to in the Nicene Creed, which as as always bothered me.

So we all created this... what is and what is going to be thru our words and feelings at the time.

Good job showing Christianity is a myth. The trinity is just a mess.

The following seven scriptures show the fallacy of claiming that the Father and the Son are one being as the Trinity teaching asserts. How can one reconcile belief in the Trinity with these simple questions? Hebrews 1:5 tells us that Jesus was begotten by His Father. Did He beget Himself? In Matthew 22:44, the Father said Jesus would sit at His right hand until His enemies were made His footstool. Was Jesus to sit at His own right hand? In Matthew 24:36, when Jesus told His disciples that no one knows the day or hour of His return but the Father only, did He really know but made up an excuse to not tell them? In John 14:28, Jesus said His Father was greater than He was. Does this mean He was greater than Himself? In John 17:1, Jesus prayed to His Father. Was He praying to Himself? In Matthew 27:46, Jesus cried out, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" Had He forsaken Himself? In John 20:17, Jesus said He would ascend to the Father after His resurrection. Did He ascend to Himself? These and many other biblical passages demonstrate to a rational Bible reader that the Trinity teaching is not only unbiblical, but also utterly illogical! They may all one “in purpose”, though.

These are known Muslim arguments. And probably the reason many Christians were persuaded to become Muslim. As the Quraan explicitly deals with these issues.

13:00 the Hebrew scroll is upsidedown.

It isn't interesting, important, or complex. It's myth. Simple. Any dispute comes from trying to make sense of nonsense.

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِنْ تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: \Be!\" - and he was. (Aali Imran 3:59)"

So Marcion believed in 4 gods

1+1+1=1 Christians

Say, "He is Allah, The Only One, Allah, Who is in need of none and of Whom all are in need, He has not begotten and has not been begotten, And to Him none could be co-equal."

Brilliant . Really glad I found your channel.

People are blind.. and they feel smart when they say they don't believe in God... Take a deep breath and think again... #stupid...

Why not just admit that the trinity is an unbiblical teachings that pagans brought with them when they converted to Christianity and that the early church fathers who tried to combat heresy themselves unwittingly ended up teaching a heresy.

I would rather debate the true nature of Hobbits. Nonsense on purpose to keep the masses obeying the "authorities.

The Trinity comes from Hindi, and ancient Egypt

Merci for your video ! In Genesis they should have written that God / Gods were made from mankind image and not the way around...

Wonderfully informative, thorough, and well put together. Good work.

At the beginning you say God in three parts. You got it wrong right there. No Christian has ever taught this. Lousy scholarship. Ugh.

It's demonic."Satan transforms himself into an angel of light' !

One thing for sure is there is blildness delusion when it comes to the God head, which proves beyond a doubt a higher power, the delusion had to come from somewhere.

You really need to introduce every subject with the opening line: "Once upon a time...".

I never heard word one about this trinity thingy. I was brought up Mormon. It was called the "Godhead", and alway three separate beings. Gawd and Jeebus were both supposed to have been men of flesh, and are now possessing bodies made of "spirit matter". Montanism! The holy spirit is a ghost, and if you behave, he will be a "still small voice" and guide you.. Just another of thousands of interpretations of a fairy tale.

A "mystery".. well aint that convenient?! I wish I could have used that excuse when the dog ate my homework! What a crock of shit!

Where did that picture showing Augustine of Hippo as a white man come from? Pfffft!