A cinematographers review of Dehancer 

Is there a way to dial back the overall effect or do you have to go to the node. Because im needing to do exactly what Jake said and dial all of this down significantly

@@craigkeyintel Hi! You can try using Output or Total Impact

@@craigkeyintel you can try using the 'Total Impact' button in the plugin.

Thanks! I knew that T and D indicate tungsten vs daylight. I was more talking to the dramatic changes in contrast. I haven’t shot on the stocks so maybe that’s how they actually respond. It’s just weird how less contrasty every other stock is. Even 50D is less contrasty. Other emulations (like film box) don’t have these characteristics.

@@jakebaine yeah that’s very true! I already have a power grade setting with everything dialed in but to your point my first time as well I was like what the hell is this ugly thing damaging my footage

The stocks wouldn't be significantly different if they were shot in the correct environment. Lets assume the T stocks were modelled on tungsten lighting, and the D stocks on daylight. It would make no sense to emulate film stocks that had been shot at the incorrect white balance. The whole point of the Vision 3 range of stocks is that they are interchangeable, and aside from differences in grain size, they should be mostly similar. Any color or contrast differences are purely interpretive, and not scientific.@@jakebaine

@@jakebaineHiya, really enjoyed this video :) Regarding the high contrast of the 250D and less on the 50D, from what I understand, the shooting conditions originally dictated the stock choice, so the 250D was originally used if the shooting conditions / the scene was lit with low contrast (overcast day with very even lighting), whereas the 50D was made for high contrast scenes (think by the seaside on a sunny day). So it makes sense that using 50D in emulation would add less contrast to the image, (since the scene would be high contrast) while selecting 250D would add a lot of contrast (since it’s ment for footage with a low contrast scene with lots of lights, but lit evenly). Dehancer has a post on this in their website, they might have published this after your review. So my guess is: if you have lit a scene like you would for a digital camera, maybe strong keylight and plenty of contrast etc applying the 250D would not be the right choice, since scene is already high contrast. So for film emulation to work properly one has to also «emulate» or recreate the lighting scenarios for when that film would normalt be used, and not just light your scene like you normally would - makes sense?

Thanks!

During the film days, cameras didn’t have white balance. You just purchased the stock of film that was balanced for the lighting of your film. So because your camera does have white balance, it doesn’t matter which stock you choose. You just choose the one you think looks best. There is no correct or incorrect way.

This is good to know!! Thank you!

I recommend learning Resolve. Cullen Kelly is a great place to start, he has incredible content.

RAW already requires a lot of processing power and adding Dehancer to it will make it even slower. Even Resolve’s built in grain plugin will slow down playback. You should edit in 1080p to smooth playback while using Dehancer and then switch to 4K for final export.

MADE Mellow!

Yup, I'm aware! I do this in my pre-group nodes so thats why you didn't see it.

I didn’t shoot those, I was 1st AC, editor and colorist on that project. That was from the DP Evan Burns. He shot on some vintage Mamiya glass with an Aiviascope 1.7x anamorphic adapter.

I do! I enjoy filmbox. I like the strength options. I had a portion about filmbox in my review but ended up cutting it for time.

Do you find it better than Dehancer?

I understand that. I was talking about the difference in black level and contrast. The contrast and black level between 250D and 200T is massive. Not talking about color or balance.

@@jakebaine ahh got it. Cool.

I’m aware of that. I was more commenting on the dramatic contrast difference between 250D and 200T. I know the colors shift as the stock is balanced for different light temp but the dramatic change in contrast seems unusual.

@@jakebaineAccording to dehancer themselves the T200 is a film for low contrast scenes/lighting with yellowish colored light, while the 250D is a film for *very* low contrast scenes with more of an overcast type light, the difference in contrast between them is probably a result of the difference between low light and *very* low light - it would be *really* interesting to see a followup video on this, replicating some of the proposed scenarios from dehancer (low contrast scenes) to see how your feelings towards the percieved extreme settings/results :) They even advice people who have shot high contrast brightly lit scenes to reduce the contrast in the original shots before applying film profile in one of their articles for the 350D :)

From all of the real film stock comparisons I’ve seen, there is not a massive contrast difference between 250D and 200T in real film compared to what dehancer does.

I would love to work with film one day.

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