A Conversation with John Piper & John MacArthur: 2022 

Praise God!

Prosperity gospel? Haven't read that book

@@mickeypearce244 it’s not a book.

Bro theres no such thing as prosoperity gospel..

@@sannysorianojrbat-ao8935 awesome bro

Thanks for your diligent work, brother!

@@misternewman1576 thanks brother

Keep fighting the good fight, brother. May God bless you in your work.

What you wrote gave me joy in my soul God bless what you are doing for him and his kingdom brother in Christ 🙏

For REAL???! A Christian brother in Pakistan??? You gotta be a warrior! I hope and pray that you are safe, and you are now on my prayer list. I would really like to hear all about your testimony.

God bless and keep you and give you abundant grace and strength for His work. Blessings and Love from Nigeria.

Any advice for someone who’s looking to become a pastor??

Wow, much love from the Philippines? I'm an "American" who lived there for close to 10 years and , with a few exceptions, the last thing I experienced was "much love." In fact, I would suggest, that unless you're specifically called to go there, avoid that country at all costs.

God bless saiyo, brother.❤

That would be really cool! Much love from the US :)

I really hope they would come visit Nigeria soon! I am seeing this conversation for the third time…

God's blessings to Nigeria. It is difficult there without a doubt. Praise God for the faith and devotion of our Nigerian brothers and sisters.

I'm Nigerian too❤

Where are you in Nigeria? I am a Nigerian and I have not seen or heard of any Nigerian pastor that focuses on preaching the word as it should. Most are all about prosperity. Where do you worship so I can worship with you if you are in Lagos

I can appreciate them both after having spent five decades confined by all things Charismatic, especially that which tended toward the most erroneous proclamations.

I began listening to John Macarthur in the early 80s during my lunch breaks at the VA hospital where I worked. I didn't know anything about Piper in those days, but I have learned to love his teachings just as much. The truth is, the great majority of Charismatic communities do not have a well established structure of Scriptures that forms sound doctrine. Instead, they rush to their meetings to fall to the floor. Oh, they might hear a "message" that is spoken, but, as Piper says, it acts like the coffee percolator that bubbles, and in time, readies the attendees for the emotional shaking that leads to ecstacy which they say is the presence of God.

@Laur S thank you for your heart for praying for others amidst your own suffering. Have prayed for your as well. Rom8:38-39.

I am praying for you dear one. The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and earth through and for Jesus Christ will bring you comfort and relief in His time. He allows us to suffer terrible things so that we may be cleansed and sanctified, prepared to be with Him eternally. I pray your faith will not fail but would be strengthened during this difficult trial. God loves you and He is holding you fast. Seek Him everyday. Wait on Him. Trust for endurance and patience. He will bring you out a new person. His mercy is endless and His love never fails. Thank you for sharing your pain with someone like me who knows personally the distress you are experiencing. God is faithful. He is doing a great work in you. Hang in there!🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️

@@ellenpearl6466amen, me too.

Praying for you!

Came across this comment today and pray God continues to make you strong both in your suffering and as you’re suffering abates. May you see Christ through the suffering that you experience both in the flesh of the people around you who know Christ and seek to serve you as well as spiritually as he brings you the peace that passes all comprehension, even though you suffer. Much love from Texas.

Well he kinda forgets about the Holy Spirit…a lot. But yeah other than that I guess he’s ok

@@bradleykimmonsThe Holy Spirit bears witness of Christ. (John 15:26) It’s God’s spirit which points us to Jesus. Christ didn’t teach much about the Holy Spirit. He did speak of His heavenly Father a lot. What more is there to preach about the Holy Spirit?

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All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught. The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved! Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved! Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. I Corinthians 15:1-4 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel." We will be judged by Paul's gospel. Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers? Things changed after the cross...

So these 2 men are mediators for you to Jesus?

Amen! Thanks for sharing, we might be in the minority, but we see more of God's glory brother!

Great idea, i listen from abroad.

Amen.

They have Sister, I am sharing the Word with my group on Zoom and the Bible is the source of everything that I share. I have learned that it isn't my opinion and that it is scripture and scripture alone. I wasn't taught sola scriptura as a child growing up all these years but praise God for these men!

I would agree with MacArthur that the Americas now pagan and that makes the America now more hostile to the church. So Christians and the church now seem more angry and hostile .

Love both these men

Because he's a real one.

@@Findaway2day what must you do to be saved?

Amen!! Me too 💯💕❤️👐😋😋😋

Actually it is JESUS who is AMAZING!

right there with you brother

True. Very True. The one unique thing about Rev. Piper.

@@newtonocharimenyenya2458 what is?

"Humble"??? They both are puffed up like peacocks.

What gospel, gospel means good news. The two are 5 point calvanist, in calvanism there is no good news. They believe the lord only died for the elect, they the non elect were created for he'll. They believe the none-elect are the majority of the world population, so where's the good news? The elect, they believe, could have been chosen against their will (tulip) so no good news for them either.

Why are they called Not Christians? View RU-vid: " Not Christians?! Why", Come Unto Christ Alma Chapter 30"! Open your heart and Mind! Learn, Ponder about what you have learned, Write down your feelings and impressions, and pray about your impressions! James 1:5 Ask with real intent!

@@lukezandvliet2294 So, to be clear, do you believe therefore that the majority of the world is going to heaven? Because if they're not, explain to us how you think that's 'good news'?

Two amazing men of God. Great blessings indeed. Check out Zak Poonan's work too.

@Jim Hammer that is so loving and Christian of you Jim.

In recent years, MacArhur and his services have been doing that very thing. That’s why this conversation between both leaders is…interesting.

Yes, may God forgive us for sinful anger, and our selfish indignation! May we be filled with trust for our Sovereign God and the help to do what pleases Him alone!

This is was such an important point for me thanks for pointing out. As I've been frustrated and angry watching everything that's going on. After a couple of weeks I realised that it's really not how I'm called to respond.

John Piper gets it.

Well we should see the culture for what it is. God hates sin, and we are wicked. We should have mercy in our hearts, but we should also hate the evil around us.

Amen Patricia!!

@Jim Hammer how's that?

@Jim Hammer can I ask what your problem is with the Trinity? I get it, I wouldn't go as far as you do on not liking him, but I get how he can come off a little arrogant. I totally disagree with dispensation, and absolutely do not believe in pre-trib rapture. But I am interested in your view of the Trinity.

@Jim Hammer no, no questions. I feel bad for you that you don't understand these things. Not that I am any better or smarter or more worthy than you, you can only understand these things through the Holy Spirit, He that gives you eyes to see and and faith to believe. All the things you pointed out for example having 2 nature's and being subordinate to the Father and not eternally existing etc. Are very easily understandable through the Holy Spirit! To say that God cannot do these things is limiting God and putting Him in a box. Can God not limit himself if He pleases? Can God not manifest Himself in human flesh if He pleases? Jesus is subordinate to the Father in role only not in nature. I will pray for you Jim, as long as you have breath in you it is not too late to repent! With all love in Christ I pray you see the truth!

@Jim Hammer why so hateful?, maybe that's why you feel run off. Maybe just maybe it's you not everyone else? 😕

All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught. The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved! Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved! Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. I Corinthians 15:1-4 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel." We will be judged by Paul's gospel. Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers? Things changed after the cross...

The key to that story in Jonah is the people believed God. That's why they repented. The Bible is amazing

Only The Lord can accomplish the gift of the movement of a repentance or, a Revival in Christ Jesus. The past shows this to be Truth. Even we see plainly it would be of great benefit. Only God can Will this into existence. Asking Him, through prayer, and discussion I believe is His Will. Letting the world know through a post on any website is not the way to get God’s attention. God is a jealous God.All Glory is His. When I see, and read these prayers online. I often wonder if these Petitions that require God’s Sovereign power are given From our hearts to Jesus, instead of a post On a social platform to be seen by men. This is where the internet has changed Relationship with Jesus over time. This is not at all judgement. I think it when I read many posts as well as when I prepared to write this Post to be honest. God alone deserves all forms of our passions to Pray for His Will to be done! God Bless all my brethren in Christ😊

In total agreement with you brother amen

@@bobbie1961...and Amen Bobbie. Thank you, brother, many blessings to you and your's.

What a huge blessing to begin my day with. I pray for God to keep blessing them with health to be with us as we attempt to walk in God's Holy Word 🙏.

learn More and More on RU-vid: "Come Unto Christ, Alma 30"! Study it out, write down your impressions and feelings, Pray about your impressions as directed in James 1:5!

And Voddie Bauchman also an incredible man of God.

May our faithful Lord continue to bless, fill and heal you as you continue to grow in your faith and journey with Him! Thank you for sharing your story and pain, and journey of how these Godly men have influenced and helped you grow in the knowledge and faith of Christ! Can you imaging your loss with out knowing the LORD?? Thank God you know Him! 🙏🏻👏♥️

2 of the absolute best that bring glory to God thru their lives and teaching. What powerful examples of God's grace.

Both are false teachers and fake Calvinists.