A conversation with Sarah Mills (ex-JW, journalist)

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Sarah Mills, Assistant Editor of Conatus News, joins me on the channel to discuss religion, free speech and blood transfusions, and share her experience as a former Jehovah's Witness.
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@bridgettesbroomcloset4166 6 лет назад

"Never living in the moment"--I STRONGLY relate to that. Nothing in my life when I was a JW took place in the present tense. It was either being trapped by the legacy of my relatives or everything was all about "the new system" and "paradise earth". After awhile it felt like nothing and no one was real...because what was supposedly to come was the focus.

@grinhousekiller 6 лет назад

Doomsday cult is no life but misery

@elizabethb.1696 6 лет назад

Bridgette’s Broom Closet - You worded this perfectly! I have to stop myself from doing this even now.

@estherday2239 5 лет назад

I can relate.

@jebediahsmurfington5019 6 лет назад

She brings up such good points about how perpetually panicked you are as a JW. EVERYTHING is a danger, legitimate and otherwise. you can't even pick out a movie to watch without the potential for extreme danger. Also, that danger is layered. It's dangerous to those who are truly devout because they fear having their faith harmed, but it's also dangerous to those who aren't so devout, perhaps not even believers at all, because they could become labeled 'bad association,' or even worse be shunned by their own family and close friends. That's the real danger, how the cult is structured to trap you emotionally in some way ,at every level of involvement, from the very bottom to the top. Just my thoughts on this wonderful woman's comments. Thanks for your contributions Lloyd and Sarah!

@Fibonaccifan 6 лет назад

I like how Sarah extends the discussion to religion in general as being a problem.

@thesoundofthesuburbs 6 лет назад

There are a lot of churches and community organizations that foster a sense of community, even an intimate/insular sense of community, without breaking up families, promoting hostility towards the world, discouraging higher education, and so on.

@janedow9782 6 лет назад

Good point Yoni, there are good people in this world and some troubled people. The JW way of looking at things is generally toward condemnation and negativity. It is taking me time to get out of this bad habit. Thanks

@LivingNow 6 лет назад

Just like me I was an immigrant to the States and was attracted by this "sense of community." I'm also a writer and Huffington Post contributor and many other platforms. Nice meeting Sarah.

@starrebornalpha 6 лет назад

Maybe you can be the next interviewee.

@millyday 6 лет назад

Similarly, I may have been considered partly 'inactive' for several years and once moved countries where the influence was limited due to accessibility to meetings and partly language being a barrier, I actually had time to think for myself...past several years been deprogramming self! Big struggle! Thanks for sharing, I really appreciate the time and effort put into all activism. Thanks a million

@zendean5207 6 лет назад

She's seriously hot.

@TheMOV13 6 лет назад

Well, someone had to say it I suppose. Not precisely the main point though.

@seanswade8699 5 лет назад

SERIOUSLY!

@guillermovilla9517 6 лет назад

Wonderful interview!!

@MrDJCue 6 лет назад

Please release that Warwick video Lloyd. Anticipation is killing me lol! 😊

@LloydEvans 6 лет назад

Yes, sorry about that. A number of factors have delayed it, but it's most definitely in the pipeline. Thanks for your patience! :)

@barbarahedges1791 6 лет назад

Love your video's . They are professionally done. I also love hearing your guests who were smart enough to get out of the cult.

@0401xavier 6 лет назад

This is a very good interview....informative and not hateful....Kudos!

@johnnyruins9025 6 лет назад

great video thank you lloyd and sarah

@justdavelewis 6 лет назад

Blood Transfusions were always in issue for my mother too; she wouldn't let me carry one of those blood cards just in case. Not sure how i'd have reacted in a life/death scenario when i was younger.

@justdavelewis 6 лет назад

Anna Hume it's a good question indeed. I'm willing to bet that a fairly sizeable % of people are just JW on the outside, but don't really believe it inside - they just never question and get away with what they can

@grax9621 6 лет назад

I had a blood transfusion as a child and as an adult I rarely get sick with the flu, so I received the accumulated immunity that was in the blood. -- Having said that, we now know that some cancers are as a result of viruses and that is concerning for me as I got the transfusion from my father who did, indeed, die of cancer. Even so - the thought of receiving a transfusion creeps me out because I wouldn't even think about going up to a complete stranger and French kissing them; it's too gross to contemplate. Likewise I do believe that blood transfusions - especially in this day and age - is too gross to even think about when it is mainly the poor and desperate among us who "donate" blood for a few dollars a pint. And then this blood is mixed with the blood of countless other donors into vats and then resold to the medical community at highly inflated costs. Ew.

@quisthegreat6538 6 лет назад

Damn Bro you keeping it coming with these interviews ... good stuff I'm loving it

@sophiasmith3667 6 лет назад

Great interview!

@outandfullyawake4751 6 лет назад

Enjoyed this John. Thanks

@victoriasweeney8396 6 лет назад

I want many of these interviews to be longer! :)

@professorkaos2781 6 лет назад

Wow wasn't any women like that in my old hall!

@incognitofool6516 6 лет назад

Right?!

@alienagenda586 6 лет назад

Really great video Lloyd. Sarah delivered her points clearly and nicely. I loved how she advocated for free speech and called out the terms hate speech and islamophobia, while still being respectful. If she could get on a program like David Pakman or Rubin Report, the exjw cause could go very far

@wearegods3304 6 лет назад

John your videos are amazing! I'm happy I left the org some time ago, too bad there are others who stay due to fear, obligation and guilt, these are the abusive feelings that hunt people.

@henrigluipert8996 6 лет назад

I agree with her tenstimony....I have pretty much the same experience over the past 20 years.

@matilda4406 6 лет назад

ALL religion on borrowed time, you said it !!

@dawnross2514 6 лет назад

Yes, the present moment point, being held in a state of anticipatory terror.... Very bad for mental health.

@samrizzardi2213 6 лет назад

I live in Italy too (Liguria), and the JWs are all over Genoa and occasionally sighted in Chiavari. They're easily identifiable by their carts and stands.

@terjemyller6573 5 лет назад

Sarah was introduced to JW when she was 6 and got out - after years of doubting the doctrine, she says - when she was 19. Never fully brainwashed, it seems. I was born into it. My family was very devoted. My father was an elder. I got out when I was 14. I had doubts from a very young age, perhaps 8 or 9. I mean, the whole religion was cartoonish, a fairytail, a quase science fiction story, a play with numbers, call it what you want. Even a normal child could see that. Yet so many do not see that. This is obviously due to the process of brainwashing, which I escaped for some reason or another. Why do some minds escape and others not? What promotes resilience? What does psychology say? By what means, if any, can individuals and society counter dangerous brainwashing? Would love to see a video or discussion on this very important issue.

@zacharyfortin1428 6 лет назад

Am I the only one wondering when the Warwick Documentary is coming out? I haven't seen any mention of it since the teaser trailer was released. Any update on that?

@LloydEvans 6 лет назад

Hi Zachary! Yes, sorry about that. A number of factors have contributed to the documentary taking longer to put together than I anticipated. It is genuinely in the works, though, and I hope to have it up next month at the latest. I apologise for the hold-up!

@zacharyfortin1428 6 лет назад

John Cedars Looking forward to it! Thanks John for all your hard work. You have been a big help and resource for me and my wife's departure from Watchtower. It's been a long and arduous road but it's great to know we're not alone!

@LloydEvans 6 лет назад

So glad to hear it! Congratulations to you both on finding your freedom! :)

@nemeanlion2460 6 лет назад

Yay Sarah!! I think I should have moved to a different country like Lloyd and Sarah :)

@lucycaldwell700 5 лет назад

What is the intro song called?

@Fibonaccifan 6 лет назад

Maybe it's already been asked, but I haven't been through all the comments yet. Did Sarah's mom stay or leave JWs and if she stayed is she shunning Sarah?

@ronaldpikksaar2202 6 лет назад

I just watched your other video about suicide and how JW supposedly view suicide - as self murder. But if someone knowingly refuses medical help then how is that not viewed as suicide? And how is convincing someone to kill themselves through lack of medical help any different from being accomplice to murder?

@Snoopdave2000 6 лет назад

Hot damn! I'm visiting Lebanon 😄

@LaughinLoneStar 6 лет назад

I could have sworn she's the queen of dragons.

@guyonabudget5209 5 лет назад

She is beautiful 😍

@hikingviking859 6 лет назад

I'm in love 🌷

@ogenmatic 6 лет назад

It seems as though there's a requisite 'blood transfusion refuser success story' either in or known of in every congregation. A friend of mine was the success story in a congregation I was in and while I don't doubt the gist of her story, I know these things can get exaggerated & blown out of proportion because of the praise heaped upon them.

@thejudge3450 6 лет назад

So... was watching this great interview, when suddenly it's interrupted by a commercial. And what's the commercial? It was for a group called Ellel Ministries - which basically just screams out CULT!!!

@LloydEvans 6 лет назад

Sorry about that, although the irony is that Ellel Ministries were unknowingly helping fund my anti-cult channel by paying to have their advert shown. :)

@craiglange4550 6 лет назад

Great interview, Sarah looks like Shakira, I see a resemblance of Lebanese beauty. Interesting points, but despite journalism and all the hard work bad things in the jdubs and other religions keep taking place. The law is too lenient on perpetrators. It's good Sarah realized and got out. I was only studying at 19 with jdubs.

@Drakshl 6 лет назад

I think hate speech is free speech. Incitement isn't, obviously, but your free to hate whomever you chose.

@Officialkingz1 6 лет назад

She can get this work..

@frankmahavolich7022 6 лет назад

She is one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

@jerand9944 6 лет назад

Good interview, but I'm skeptical about the religion being on "borrowed time" claim. Even if we can grant that traditional concepts of religion are dying (which I'm not sure we can), there is still the problem of the religious mindset that we find in the social justice warrior mentality and other politically motivated movements. It's religion, but we don't call it religion.

@danielbouju1688 6 лет назад

"o'cedar"?

@tiagopestana7375 6 лет назад

John why, there are people who carry blood and die in it ??Answer because the blood is not all, the same you realize there are several types of blood. Sometimes it causes several problems, imagine if that person was a drug addict or something

@FXDefiant 6 лет назад

Definitively! Lebanese women are the most beautiful in the world.

@dmacks8805 6 лет назад

Not to get off the point. I notice there are some very beautiful women in jw. Mabye they use that to there advantage when witnessing.

@jasonw1900 6 лет назад

Watched this video down on one knee, gazing deeply into her beautiful eyes, with an open ring box imagining over and over she was saying yes she would marry me........ 😍

@jasonw1900 6 лет назад

Kevin Willis if she’s your girlfriend you should be proud she gets complements on her beauty, not insecure. if your not her boyfriend and have that response I guess I apologize for being a flaming heterosexual, always have been, always will be, if your not into women, I won’t judge, carry on happily forward! She’s a beautiful woman, and others have commented similarly, hope she saw my comment and was flattered, not offended. Go hug your significant other and tell him he’s gorgeous, I bet he appreciates the complement!

@KYRA_FX 6 лет назад

Jason W keep dreaming

@jasonw1900 6 лет назад

Ky ky I don’t have to dream,...all the women I’ve ever been with in the past, and right down to this very day, have all been equally or more attractive as this beauty. Doesn’t stop me from admiring.......