Contrary to some comments bellow, I see a lot of plus in that boat. Aft cabin with a little room for baby. A nice roomy and bright pilot house with a fantastic view for when you will sail in higher latitudes. Like Johan said, when at sea, you will appreciate the not so roomy layout below to give you something to grab. One of the middle cabin can be modify to accommodate a washing machine. The other will be perfect for storing lot of big and heavy stuff. You can leave the front cabin for an eventual crew member or more stuff (not too much and heavy in front). Furling main sail and a pair of electric winches are another plus for a light crew. Bow thruster for a boat that size is a must. Lot of space on the deck. Center cockpit. Big davit and support for solar panels. GLUED teak deck (no screw) ! Lot of space in the engine room. If the engine have been well maintained, you know the quality of Volvo Penta engines ;-). A nice four folding blades propeller. Rudder on a skeg. Of course, there is a lot of details you did not show us. Are there some minus we did not see ? How are the sails and the rigging ? The asked price seem reasonable and leave some room for negociation. Well, let see the other boats for a comparison...
Exciting, I am on doing this too I did it in 1980 around the world solo at 20, from Belgium and for 8 years, I am going again soon, you picked up a nice one.
A awesome boat!! Covert V-berth to work shop. Covert one of the cabins to a pantry. Replace the 27 year old engine. New head plumbing. What a wonderful canvas to make into a perfect boat. The inside helm station is amazing. The only down side I see is the 7' 10" draft. Thanks for another great vid.
With the right budget, I’d go looking for a Nauticat 515. Our custom Bruce Roberts is basically a steel copy of the Nauticat 43. Having now lived aboard our pilothouse sailboat for nearly 3 years, I couldn’t go to a boat that i a) couldn’t command from an inside helm, and b) where I couldn’t sit in my raised salon and see all around the boat at all times. Several times we’ve seen vessels dragging down on us at anchor, can keep a proper lookout on passage while dry and warm etc, whereas the submarine salons on most boats - we wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on around us! Things I’m sure you’ve already considered
Mike Santis not at all. The older nauticat designs, i believe it was a 35’ & 42’ designs were considered motor/sailors, but later models were redesigned for modern sailing performance, such as the 43’ and 515. Google/youtube them, they’re unbelievable vessels!!
If I was going to put down 200k on a boat, I would do my best to hire Johan to inspect it for me. The money for his time, transportation, etc would more than make up for a costly miss when buying a boat. It's something you may want to do as a part time gig Johan, I am sure there are lots of people that would pay good money for someone with your level of knowledge and expertise when it comes to boats and sailing. Always impressed by your keen eye and savvy.
I thought "This is the boat!" in the beginning, but now think otherwise. Very compartmentalized and a galley for only one! I love the work you guys are doing here. Really forces me to examine what I am looking for in a boat myself.
"This is quite hideous actually". Haha, you took the words out of my mouth! And that was before I saw the baby blue lower down! Yeah, too cut up, the original owner must have been a sailing orphanage. Too bad because otherwise there is a lot to like. The raised salon is nice, and the woodwork is beautiful, and I like the cockpit and helm. Looking forward to tomorrow's tour!
The original owner was probably taking groups of 6-8 people on ocean sailing training courses at €1500 per person for a week. Top quality upholstery replacement €5000.
I really like this Forgus 52 but two things prevent a sale for me....the almost 8 ft. draft and the balsa core. It does have an almost ideal length of 52 ft. and its displacement of almost 52,000 lb. means it should be sea kindly. Like Malin, I feel a bit closed in and I wouldn't need 5 cabins. I'd turn 2 cabins into 1 large one and 2 others into a work shop/spare parts room. I really like the inside helm station. I'm hoping you two find the right sailboat for your needs and one you both fall in love with!!
Would this boat have suited your needs now? It seemed nice and would have fixed up nicely. One of the 6 bedrooms could have made a decent workshop. It seemed a bit cramped and dark down below though.
The scenery is so beautiful and stunning.Very enjoyable! Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!
Terrific vessel, for the right family. Malin’s comments on the effective use of space for your family are well taken. I live on a small sailboat (Bayfield 32) and appreciate the value of space. Especially when entertaining. It’s so constraining to not be able to get up and comfortably move around when having a few people on board. I’m not sure if the cored hull is a valid concern but I’d be more comfortable with a solid hull. Good tour. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Looks like a nice comfortable boat for a family with kids... 150hp is a Huge diesel. Much bigger with more weight and fuel consumption than necessary. I wonder why the original owner went with one that big - did he see it as a motor-sailor? A boat that size could easily get along nicely with one 60-85hp. Not a fan of a cored hull or decks though, especially under water unless its foam. They all develop leaks eventually... better a core that does not absorb water, rot and stays strong.
Yep, that is THE boat. It is perfect. The center cockpit is convenient for small children. Bow thrusters help for single handed docking. Big windows and internal helm good for being underway and safely keeping an eye on little ones.
I liked the look of that one, but maybe i just like all the nice old wood work. I find lots of new boats feel so plastic to me. Cant wait to see tomorrows find! Cheerz!
Deck saloon with inside steering station is a major plus in my book, but I have the feeling cramming 6 cabins in a 52ft was a bit too much. Ends up with tight spaces and a bit claustrophobic by the look of it. Galley seems like a nice snug fit for bluewater cruising, lots of things to hold onto... I could see #4 repurposed as a workshop, and maybe #6 as food/spares storage... It's certainly an interesting take.
I really like this boat. Center cockpit with a pilot house. That's a 👍👍 in my book. I could overlook the small cabins as long as it had some new upholstery... LOL.
Love the Forgus 52! I can see a lot of use for the extra cabins, that would be wasted by just expanding other spaces, which are clearly big enough. thanks for the walkthrough! I've not met this manufacturer before. (I'm new to boats.)
Yes, for a bunch of separate individuals that boat looks like it would work. Or small people who are couples. It looks like it was cut out to be for long passages but folks get off when they get there. ? It's set up for seating, not space. I love that keel.
This boat seems to be well maintained. I like the layout. Safe galley... Perhaps not a bad choice but you know best. Enjoy the ride. All the best to the 3 of you. 😊
I love it! I'd probably turn at least one of the bunks into an office space, but what a great boat, where you can have a little bit of division between the social spaces. Kids can all have their own space and grandparents can come and stay too.
Yes that's a big bonus having a steering station inside that dog house, looks like a fun but solid ocean cruiser, a bit pricey, lets hope if you choose it, you come in at a much lower price. Boats are boats, and one should never get hung up on a boat before buying it, or else one does end up paying the price. There are so many boats looking for owners, more than there are owners looking for boats, so the market is definitely in your favour.
Really a nice bluewater cruiser, solid keel and rudder, and i love the possibillity to sit inside on wet or stormy days on passages. A lot potential in a boat like this, and cabins can be used as utility rooms for Washer/dryer, and more. Only drawback i see is it seem a little bit "dark" inside, if compared to more modern cruisers, but looks to be safe and sturdy boat.
Interesting and those extra cabins could be used for storage but it is a maze and as you seem to say not a lot of room to move about. Looking forward to the next boat tour.
Malin looking radiant & beautiful as usual! Even after her recent visit to the hospital and pretty terrifying medical scare. I just love your channel you guys! I would love to learn how to sail someday and I like that you guys give what I would consider to be a more authentic look at selling. You show the realities of it. Not just the smiling, happy, perfect (pretend) or YT side of sailing. Anyway, really excited to see the two of you become three. What an incredible life this tiny human is going to have with the two of you guiding its way through life. Thank you for sharing🙏🌎💜🌏🌴🌍🌈😁
Y’all would have to get busy to fill those cabins with kids! Ha ha! I agree that maybe a more open interior would be more desirable. Kids would love that boat, though. Thanks for the tour. Excited about Ran II!
Thank you for sharing your search! I am learning a lot about how to be a thoughtful buyer and what items to check out from watching you. The boat is beautiful but I understand why it wouldn't be for you (or me either as I don't like the feeling of being "closed in"). As an adjunct thought - I am also enjoying the glimpses of Sweden and hearing both of you pronounce the names of the places you are driving through! And finally - NICE car, very "scrappy" and probably very nimble as well! Thank you again for sharing!
As cozy as this boat is, it looks like it was built to house all the relatives and grandchildren on vacation. It’s a tight mouse maze! Losing some of the small cabin walls would make the boat comfortably spacious!
So lovely to watch your boat hunting process, especially when you video tour boats in person that I've been checking from afar through pictures... Maybe some older 45-55' HRs next? You have such good taste. I appreciate the well-informed perspectives that you both bring, it is very thoughtful and useful content you are creating now, even though you aren't sailing! Best of luck.
I have a 50 footer and in all honesty I'd recommend you guys go smaller. It's just too much boat in anything other than nice weather and open room. If you do go that big a bow thruster is mandatory...
Beautiful boat guys. Those extra cabins just offer you more flexibility for a growing family and guests that may come on board from time to time. In any case, I hope you folks get a boat soon that suits you.....I love sailing with you. God bless.
what a nice boat! it must have been really expensive when new - with all that complex joinery. Lots of great storage and room for crew. Great passage maker I'm sure.
Big roomy boat for you both and your first 1st mate! Don't worry about filling those extra cabins with crew and guests because you're never going to have too much room. Pick the cabins that make the best locations for visitors and convert the others to storage, pantries or workshop? At least temporarily ...
Johan, I honestly believe that Malin and you could build your own boat. You know allot about them. I liked the one on this video, and was thinking when you said there were too many cabins, that you could use them for extra storage, but that galley, although nicely designed, was built for someone the size of a monkey. That would be the only thing that would make me walk away.
A person loves a particular boat for its esthetic qualities. We generally hate a boat for the lack of practical qualities. Having been through this boat sizing problem from small to big to small again, I’ve come up with a basic rule. Spend 10% of the time looking at the general layout, quality of materials etc, and the rest on the mechanical and practical things, Err on the side of “next size larger “ rather than “next size smaller” up to the point where 2 grown adults are required on Emergency handling. I’ve gone from a 50 (2handed) to a 38 (1 handed). I really miss the big shower head and a good freezer.
3-4 cabins, yeah, you'll have one to grow on... six! I don't think so for all the reasons you've given. A very nice vessel and I like it, but keep looking. I know what will happen, with you two it will be love at first sight and you'll both know when you find The One. Smile.
You haven't asked for opinions, but still, here's mine. of the two shown so far this is the best for a family. pluses and minuses as you have pointed out. looking forward to more. As a side, a youngster like you are about to have would love hiding from mom and dad in this boat. LOL! Regards, Solomon
Nice size boat, but still cramped due to number of cabins. Also, steering cable and pulleys and other mechanical stuff seems to be hidden under things. An Amel, perhaps super maramu, if you can find at a good price will be very good. Protected helm, dedicated engine room, good steering rack etc.
My Volvo Penta 2003 is older than that and running very well. A quality diesel engine, well maintain, can run for a very long time. An oil analysts can say a lot about the health of the engine.
@@voilierbagatelle6592 Most JD Marines get over 10k hours on the factory top end. There are several blogs with people running their John Deeres over 20k hours with nothing but oil changes. Quality diesels are basically indestructible. The turbos have way more problems than the blocks and top ends though. Lot more moving parts.
I don’t sail I’m just a fisherman I own fishing boats so I have no expertise in sail boats with that said have you ever looked at a catamaran from what I have seen they offer more room.. love your channel good luck on finding a new boat 👍
I wondered what you thought of those settee cushions? Hideous was a good word. Buttoned cushions are just good places to collect junk. With a little one you will have lots of food crumbs to deal with.
Fergus isn’t really known in uk I didn’t like there was no way to escape from small cabins, looks good for northern hemisphere you’d be baking in the tropics
This is going to be fun, so far, I have enjoyed both boats. I like the deck salon boats with steering. You might want this boat after you have three or four kids. ;-)
Two hulls is twice the marina / port / entrance fee, two engines is twice the mechanical /electrical maintenance. Most catamarans have crazy exposed rudders which will wreck the hull upon collision with something nasty floating in the water. Catamarans sure are trendy but all their comforts wouldn't make me switch from a monohull, not that I could afford to anyway.
Hej Jag växte upp på Tjörn innan Tjörn bron fanns, åkte då med bil till Orust och sen ned till Tjörn Jag vet att du inte har seglat katamaran förut men tänk på utrymmet i en sådan båt samt inte många trappsteg för ett barn att gå och ramla på. What do you think ?
Electric winches - and in mast furling - features you definitely will appreciate on a larger boat. We had it on our HR42 and wouldn’t have wanted to be without. Especially with only two people onboard. Looking forward to your next video. Oh.. Have you looked at the HR45? A really nice boat if you can find one!
Boom furling or mast furling mainsail? You want boom furling for safety (if the furler jams, you can drop the haulyard to drop the sail, not so with a mast furler) and performance (can have full length batten to shape the sail).
The cockpit is small because oceangoing sailing craft have been designed to take on and drain overboard wave that have filled that cockpit yet do not threaten the boat with sinking. Currently, there aren't many pleasure boats expressly designed for survival conditions at sea because technology helps us avoid bad weather where possible. Charter could explain the large number of cabins, but the interior was too dark. Although one must go down into a monohull, one must seek a bright interior to avoid depression. Boats today are designed with numerous hatches and windows to brighten the below decks atmosphere. For the long term, I'd be looking for boats in the 47-50 foot class. These two boats were of extraordinary quality.
Good vid. Agreed Too many Rooms unless You have 4 Teenage Kids. ive had 7 boats. Most important feature to me is a Strong Hull & minimal holes below waterline. Build Quality & Built like a Battleship is The Most desirable to me. 1st Order of Business --- is to Keep the Water on the Outside. NOTHING Else much matters. Safety. Priority one for Me. Everything else is Trivial. im sure you have seen " Delos " on you tube. Thats a 52 i believe also. Perfect size for cruising. Delos Has alot of Good information thier Boat etc. 1. Protected Rudder - is one thing they note as a very Desirable item. 2. Short keel too. That Delos Boat is Built incredibly well --- Definately check out the video of the factory tour they have & intro to delos vid. forward cabins are built with sealable doors in case of water infiltration. Boat will stay operational a foreward cabin full of water.
We bougth our first boat from Olssons at Henån back in the 1960. It was a small "Eka" with square sails. In that way I can out of experience recommend a boat from that area! Good luck!
Love the boat! One cabin could be converted to a workshop. Some of the top bunks could be made storage. If it can be sail singlehanded, you might want to think about it. Regards, Dave
You may have found the boat I am looking for. Thanks! upgrading the cushions is easy. Actually, I would love to find a boat like that on the U.S. east coast. I need space to carry supplies to indigenous island villages and those of developing island nations. There's room for crew and supplies.
