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A Dance with Dragons - Chapter 17 - Jon IV 

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@russellgraham598
@russellgraham598 Год назад
Stannis calling somebody stubborn is the definition of the pot calling the kettle black
@banblangon3316
@banblangon3316 Год назад
Stan is would know one when he sees one
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
@@banblangon3316 exactly
@newterz
@newterz 2 месяца назад
Wild how we consider Stannis to be rigid, he listens to Jon’s council readily and is flexible to changes. The GOAT
@Jesusmlrw
@Jesusmlrw 3 года назад
D&D shall be known from then on as Bookslayers for this. What a great scene and plot line this would all have been. BOOKSLAYERS!!
@Caramelo23606
@Caramelo23606 Год назад
The books are still there u know
@GaneshPatil-ip4kl
@GaneshPatil-ip4kl 10 месяцев назад
I find John's chapters boring ...so in relistening I avoid those but I'm here to listen this scene randomly many a times ...two of the best strategist of westeros Show did dirty with john
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 8 месяцев назад
Just as bad as kinslaying and worse than kingslaying
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 7 месяцев назад
You can only half blame them, half lies with George for not finishing the books.
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
@@thewanderingartists true
@SerCristonCole
@SerCristonCole 8 месяцев назад
“Even so, the room felt colder then it should” This line always gives me pause.
@eoghanclark165
@eoghanclark165 5 месяцев назад
A sentinel within the wall... I thought the same 😵‍💫
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS 3 года назад
I love how you keep Ed’s voice pretty close to actors voice in the show. 100% Ed is my favorite Crow. Everyone has worked at a job and had a coworker like Ed. “Ahhh look. More shit. And I was beginning to wonder what to do for my day.” Nailed it!
@basedchimera5859
@basedchimera5859 3 года назад
It's a genius way of grounding the wall
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS 3 года назад
@@basedchimera5859 100%....George has written really great side characters. Like the show I have to go back and revisit from time to time just to keep up,with all the characters, their relationship to each other and where in the world they came from how they came to be ect.
@DavidReadsASoIaF
@DavidReadsASoIaF 3 года назад
Thank you! It's funny you say that though, because I based the voice I did entirely off of Squidward
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS
@FLORIDAROOMJAMS 3 года назад
@@DavidReadsASoIaF You’re very welcome. I watched and enjoyed the show and unfortunately I just don’t have the time to sit and read a book with work and 2 bands I play bass for and your channel is very entertaining. I heard the show left out parts and characters that was in the books so I’m enjoying the content that wasn’t in the show. Hopefully you will do the Dunk and Egg stories. I had a great “Ah haaa” moment when I realized Egg as Maestrer Amons brother. Both those characters Sir Duncan and Egg was mentioned in the show but vaguely. kill the boy Jon snow ....I love it man! Keep it up!
@angelovargas938
@angelovargas938 3 года назад
If you've never had that coworker, it was probably you lol
@cassiocosta9854
@cassiocosta9854 3 года назад
I love Jon insight and his internal struggle by rooting for Stannis
@avicebron1217
@avicebron1217 2 года назад
This reading of the book makes Jon even more relatable, and enjoyable to listen to. His internal dialog cracks me up half the time. Jon would be a blast to chat with about almost anything.
@angelfire1987
@angelfire1987 2 года назад
@@avicebron1217 except he’d be having most of that interesting discussion in his head!
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
Stannis and Jon are best in the books.
5 месяцев назад
How do you have 225 subs with barely any videos?
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 5 месяцев назад
I make videos.
@LH74
@LH74 Год назад
I love the conversations between Jon and Stannis.
@luigicavallo270
@luigicavallo270 8 месяцев назад
"You haggle like a crone on a codfish, Lord Snow! Did Ned Stark father you on some fish wife?" Underrated quote!
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
Love Stannis quotes.
@bittersteel7922
@bittersteel7922 3 года назад
ed is such a cool character
@Akaki1999
@Akaki1999 7 месяцев назад
Jon and Davos seem to be the only two people who give Stannis solid advice without poisoning it with self interest... Though, Jon's interest is with Night's Watch and Stannis was the only one to help them, so who better to be king when Night's watch is concerned, but still... Interesting that both of them are low status (Davos is commoner smuggler and Jon is a bstard, yet they're better men than most lords) Melisander... she never leaves Stannis's side, why is she staying behind? Did she see something happen on the wall? I hope she saw White walker attack, that would be cool... I can't wait for long night. We saw it was snowing at the end of last book, so it will probably be winter by the end of this book and white walkers should be already nearing the wall... Does Jon plan something with wildlings... he was eager to leave them behind... risky af
@aroningram4130
@aroningram4130 Год назад
Jon smooth gives good advice holds his ground from southord lord's tryna embarrass him and gain favor with the king.
@charitysweetcharity3091
@charitysweetcharity3091 3 месяца назад
As a professional cook, it is with great joy that I realize that the Wall is basically a gigantic walk in freezer!!!
@elenab4724
@elenab4724 3 года назад
Dolorous Edd = Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh
@DavidReadsASoIaF
@DavidReadsASoIaF 3 года назад
Edd is the greatest character in the history of fiction.
@avicebron1217
@avicebron1217 2 года назад
Yes!!! I was thinking this a couple chapters ago! Lmao
@karinelemaire6402
@karinelemaire6402 Год назад
@@DavidReadsASoIaF I'd love POVs of him not gonna lie XD
@TheKpa11
@TheKpa11 9 месяцев назад
@@DavidReadsASoIaF Double D?
@jackblundell2850
@jackblundell2850 Год назад
I think there’s something to be said that Ghost doesn’t listen to Jon’s command. “Instead, he ran away”, like Jon has lost control of a part of himself, let alone the watch.
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
yeah
@MissMiaAfroGoddess
@MissMiaAfroGoddess Год назад
Love Stannis. Weird religious sacrifice aside, He actually listens to counsel, trusts his advisors and uses information to be strategic. He might make a good king!
@maesmydog6691
@maesmydog6691 2 месяца назад
The man aint The Mannis for nothing ;)!
@AwesomeMusicLady
@AwesomeMusicLady Год назад
“Do I need to make you swear an oath before a tree?” “No.” Was that a jape? With Stannis it was hard to tell. Later “Can this man Mors be trusted?” Asked Stannis. Has Mors Umber bent the knee? “Your Grace should have him swear an oath beneath his heart tree.”
@oz4087
@oz4087 3 года назад
I love Edds voice
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 Год назад
Sounds like Squidward
@christophertracy4377
@christophertracy4377 3 года назад
Thank U 4 reading these beloved books 📚. I hope we get Winds next year. Love how Jon and Dany are always paired together. If only the books had been finished before S8.
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 Год назад
If Jon had half of Dany's resources she had in Mereen, he would have cleaned that city.
@lonemotheo1964
@lonemotheo1964 9 месяцев назад
I mean it’s not like Jon has home field advantage allowing him to council Stannis on the politics of the North and a formal education I’m sure Jon who’s never left the North would totally do a better job than Dany
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 9 месяцев назад
@@lonemotheo1964 Dany has people from Mereen with her in governance but she does not actually try to understand the people of Mereen despite living there, Jon has shown that he can understand people who are culturally different from him (the Freefolk) and manage them, Dany does not even try to understand the complexities of the lives of slaves. This was exposed when she was talking with pit fighters. Dany thinks the world is black and white, she has a very simplistic notion of the world and people. She can't even tell the difference between Stark and Lannister, she does not have the ability to empathize and see things from people's different points of view. That is why she is a horrible leader and will be a worse one in Westeros. Jon, Asha, Tyrion etc are people who should be he leaders.
@lonemotheo1964
@lonemotheo1964 9 месяцев назад
@@theelectricprince8231 aah no! Daenerys does listen to the mereenise to her own detriment.. At one point she tries to outlaw the wearing of a Tokhar a symbol of the elite slave master class but is advices against it as it would make her seem like a foreign invader On the pit fighters situation her problem was that it would benefit the slavers and after making new rules that benefited the pit fighters they’re reopened You should stop watching the show as the show has a very biased view on Dany and her revolution
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 9 месяцев назад
@@lonemotheo1964 I am not talking about the show. I said UNDERSTAND and EMPATHIZE, from her POV she lacks this. Tyrion understood the situation on slavers bay better than white savior Daenerys.
@lonemotheo1964
@lonemotheo1964 9 месяцев назад
@@theelectricprince8231 Are you sure you’re not talking about the show as only in the show is Dany a white savior…. Over and over we’re constantly told that slavery in Essos is not race based we see people from Westoros Lys and even the wildlings who are white being sold into slavery…. The first murder we see in the books is of an unsullied from Lys who are described as fair skinned with blonde hair and blue eyes They made slavery race based and had a former slave Missande die in chains
@angelovargas938
@angelovargas938 3 года назад
Jon trying to maneuver around Stannis is great, he wants him to win but can't really help and also has to look out for his own. It's great to see Lord Snow becoming an adult and killing the boy. Kind of a dick move of Stannis to try and bully the Watch into serving him, though
@johnmurdoch8534
@johnmurdoch8534 2 года назад
Stannis went north to fight for them and saved them. Every reward he offers gets refuse. Every request he makes gets rebuffed no matter how fair....i can understand the frustration.
@MrHotSalsa
@MrHotSalsa 2 года назад
@@johnmurdoch8534 In the TWOW Theon preview chapter. He sums up his frustration by saying "Did everyone forget about the Red Wedding?"
@LordZebra
@LordZebra 7 месяцев назад
if stannis didnt show up the north would be flooded with wildlings. the north has suffered enough through bolton wardenship. stannis is the only southern lord / king to defend the wall. so in that reason alone shows who should be king
@Seuspesos
@Seuspesos 11 месяцев назад
The mountain claaaaaans ! Enter BIG BUCKET!
@Vidacaangel1318
@Vidacaangel1318 2 года назад
This is one of my favorite chapters ! Stannis dialogue!!!
@oz4087
@oz4087 3 года назад
Bowen sucks at counting. if all the limes are gone, were does stannis get all his water with lime he and his captains keep drinking?
@shortstuff780
@shortstuff780 3 года назад
Hmm. Good call, I doubt that it was an mistake, must be intentional.. Hmm
@DavidReadsASoIaF
@DavidReadsASoIaF 3 года назад
This is the real lemongate.
@philipjoyce8817
@philipjoyce8817 2 года назад
Im sure Stannis brought his own lemons?
@jimboskii2555
@jimboskii2555 Год назад
Jon gives truth to stannis just like davos
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 8 месяцев назад
And he listens to his counsel. The one true king!
@TheCbot88
@TheCbot88 2 года назад
I kinda shudder to think what the wall might look like after Martin’s five-year- gap. I wonder why bloodraven, I mean ghost, it’s so interested in Davos’ son. Dead children come last. Everywhere… 😳😳😳
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
I see...
@banblangon3316
@banblangon3316 Год назад
Love my guy ed he keeps me the hopelessness of the nights watch in your face but also stays loyal to Jon, fucking Bowen marsh is that employee who been working to long but still right most times fuck
@Spllyn
@Spllyn 10 месяцев назад
Thanks again David for doing these readings, your passion for this project was inspiring
@joseromero-wm9uv
@joseromero-wm9uv 3 года назад
These are real good
@kenhowl8358
@kenhowl8358 3 года назад
Stannis is he-lare-E-us😂.. 🐐 tracks?
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
Yes.
@BloodyFoxDK
@BloodyFoxDK Год назад
Great chapter,first with Bowen Marsh and Dolorous Edd and then with King.
@mschell8022
@mschell8022 3 года назад
Hate the way Mellisandre talks about the northern religion ugh!!!! :(
@aroningram4130
@aroningram4130 Год назад
Betta be careful with big bucket wull around when the clansman bend the knee to john
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 8 месяцев назад
She needs to have a little bloody respect.
@cassidycoleman900
@cassidycoleman900 2 года назад
GOAT TRACKS !!!
@dtv2181
@dtv2181 2 года назад
Lol tormund giants butt and the bloody weeber knows it too great character accent!!
@dondonfilms2005
@dondonfilms2005 3 года назад
Love it! 😍
@karinelemaire6402
@karinelemaire6402 Год назад
You do many great voices, and Ed is one of 'em! Slynt, Manderly, Sam, Lord Friendzone-- Ah, I mean Jorah! I loved your Kevan too!
@GaneshPatil-ip4kl
@GaneshPatil-ip4kl Год назад
Wow !! Add strong belwas ,Arya ,Davos to the list nd our likings match . I didn't like little finger nd vyrys much though
@karinelemaire6402
@karinelemaire6402 Год назад
@@GaneshPatil-ip4kl I forgot Davos :P
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 8 месяцев назад
​@@GaneshPatil-ip4klI like his voice for varys and petyr.
@calebduarte5255
@calebduarte5255 2 года назад
Me deciding the order to reread the books in: 26:38
@DavidReadsASoIaF
@DavidReadsASoIaF 2 года назад
lol
@davewight
@davewight 3 года назад
Crows food umber 🤣🤣
@FunkBastid
@FunkBastid 8 месяцев назад
Calling it: rattleshirt will be the death that pays for Jon Snow’s life
@mymom5213
@mymom5213 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic chapter. Dumb and dumber really thought their material is better than this?
@ShadowFerretofD00m
@ShadowFerretofD00m 2 месяца назад
Honestly I kind of wish Jon would bend the knee to Stannis and become Jon Stark. I know he never would, and that the night's watch would be screwed without him, but man. It would be great.
@raissa4260
@raissa4260 3 месяца назад
Stannis angry, grinding his teeth and drinking lemon water😂😂😂😂 Dudes going to have an ulcer and stomach perforation Thats what will kill him😂😂😂
@cassiocosta9854
@cassiocosta9854 3 года назад
from 33:20 to 33:32 was enough to make me question again Jon true origin it started with Edric Dayne Then the Lord of the 3 sister, then Stannis joke
@oz4087
@oz4087 3 года назад
To be fair Lyana stark was also notoriously stuborn.
@jimboslice6367
@jimboslice6367 3 года назад
There is no reason to keep Jon from who his parents were if his mother was ashara or wylla or a fishers daughter
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry Год назад
@@jimboslice6367 - There was, because of who his father really was, not necessarily his mother. 😕🐉 Him being a Targ, Rhagar's son, was what makes things so dangerous. None of the Rebels could suffer a Targ to live. Look at what trouble both Faegon & Dany are gonna bring to the Lannister's rule.
@jimboslice6367
@jimboslice6367 Год назад
@@KabbalahSherry so you’re saying Jon’s parents are Rhaegar and Ashara? Never heard that theory
@jorikrouwenhorst7220
@jorikrouwenhorst7220 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a chapter called “The king’s squire” were we would follow Devan. This boy far away from home, in the midst of destiny.
@elevenjordan4042
@elevenjordan4042 Год назад
18:49 😂😂😂
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 8 месяцев назад
I swear to god, does the iron throne not fund the night's watch at all?
@BudravenOG
@BudravenOG Год назад
33:40🔖
@MustafaKhan-j6w7e
@MustafaKhan-j6w7e 22 дня назад
Daily ASOIAF theory 219: Jon Snow when reincarnated in awow (if he is) will be then given by a decree by stanis to become lord stark as he would ask for it and pledge to the north
@HeadbutKneecap
@HeadbutKneecap 3 месяца назад
It just occurred to me that the others could have really fucked with the crows by bringing back the dead carcasses of the venison they had stored underneath the wall, however I imagine their power wouldn’t work there.
@moniquefrazier1381
@moniquefrazier1381 2 месяца назад
Ed’s character is slowly growing on me 😅😅
@mehlover
@mehlover 18 дней назад
I was wondering why Stannis brought all these women and children and now it makes sense
@diamonddog5190
@diamonddog5190 Месяц назад
Edd is just Squidward of the watch
@kingshark5887
@kingshark5887 Год назад
Man the show really butchered Jon
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
From the chapter: ---- “If is a word for fools. We have had no word from Davos. It may be he never reached White Harbor. Arnolf Karstark writes that the storms have been fierce upon the narrow sea. Be that as it may. I have no time to grieve, nor wait upon the whims of Lord Too-Fat. I must consider White Harbor lost to me. Without a son of Winterfell to stand beside me, I can only hope to win the north by battle. *That requires stealing a leaf from my brother’s book. Not that Robert ever read one.* I must deal my foes a mortal blow before they know that I am on them.” (A Dance with Dragons - Chapter 17 - Jon IV)
@stonedzebra420
@stonedzebra420 4 месяца назад
It's a real shame that this book didn't end with a battle between stannis and the boltons. They spent all book hyping it up and it never happened.
@rajond7881
@rajond7881 26 дней назад
20:17 how ironic is this coming from stannis 😂😂😂
@deepsp_ce
@deepsp_ce Год назад
Dywin has the best voice in this series do not at me
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
I'm going to at you
@santsi7306
@santsi7306 5 месяцев назад
We're all going to at you 😂
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 5 месяцев назад
@@santsi7306 thnx
@Alter-Ego1995
@Alter-Ego1995 Месяц назад
Stannis' men honestly seem really stupid when it comes to war
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
From the chapter: ---- Jon said, “Winterfell belongs to my sister Sansa.” “I have heard all I need to hear of Lady Lannister and her claim.” The king set the cup aside. “You could bring the north to me. Your father’s bannermen would rally to the son of Eddard Stark. Even Lord Too-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse. White Harbor would give me a ready source of supply and a secure base to which I could retreat at need. It is not too late to amend your folly, Snow. Take a knee and swear that bastard sword to me, and rise as Jon Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North.” How many times will he make me say it? “My sword is sworn to the Night’s Watch.” Stannis looked disgusted. “Your father was a stubborn man as well. Honor, he called it. *Well, honor has its costs, as Lord Eddard learned to his sorrow.* If it gives you any solace, Horpe and Massey are doomed to disappointment. I am more inclined to bestow Winterfell upon Arnolf Karstark. A good northman.” (A Dance with Dragons - Chapter 17 - Jon IV)
@cassiocosta9854
@cassiocosta9854 3 года назад
Stannis hahahahaha
@cassiocosta9854
@cassiocosta9854 3 года назад
34:07 to 34:17 Stannis hahahahaha 😂 😂 😂😂😂😂😂
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
I can make anyone laugh.
@cart3rsh0rt47
@cart3rsh0rt47 11 часов назад
How tf do u interpret any character having a southern accent? Like actually where are u getting that
@mykhailohohol8708
@mykhailohohol8708 2 месяца назад
Stan is should have attacked Dreadfort like he planned… Johns advise ruined it for him
@aleksanderpopov5060
@aleksanderpopov5060 2 месяца назад
These books are going too fast. And there is no sign of Winds and all we can do is dream about a Dream through Dreamception.
@Caribbeanaemond
@Caribbeanaemond 6 месяцев назад
The more you give stannis the more he demands
@comradestannis
@comradestannis 6 месяцев назад
nah
@CaptinCrofty
@CaptinCrofty Год назад
Anyone else not a fan of Jon?
@kylemallett1606
@kylemallett1606 Год назад
Jon and Tyrion are my favorite POV characters in this book 😅
@CaptinCrofty
@CaptinCrofty Год назад
@@kylemallett1606 I like Tyrion but Jon’s such a know it all
@GodsDumbLamb
@GodsDumbLamb Год назад
​@@CaptinCrofty I mean here he is talking to a bunch of southorn lords who have no idea what the North is.
@CaptinCrofty
@CaptinCrofty Год назад
@@GodsDumbLamb i don't remember what happened in this chapter but hes like 16 or something. I just don't like him I was happy when he died in the show but that didn't work out too
@Snag2k
@Snag2k Год назад
⁠@@CaptinCroftyWho’s your favourite character?
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