Yeah... Humans started with honor.. No fear kings were leading the charge... Now what politicions do? They hide in there presidental bunkers while we die.
@KingCrimson-420 They are probably not that far behind the lines. If the various online videos are anything to go by, they are mostly just using public consumer level tech. The further away they are from the drone the more latency and lower video bit rate (image quality) they will experience which would affect their capabilities and effectiveness.
Ain't no way they didn't hear that. That's definitely their buddies fkn w them with an unarmed drone. That poor camera cut out affect at the end confirms it for me.
looks like it's also using an IR beacon, so if they were using NVGs it would be plain as day to them. What are a couple of grunts doing walking around in the dark without NVGs?
Man, when they invented swords, fist fighters called em cowards. When they invented guns, swordsman called em cowards. When they invented drones, shotgun sales went up.
Well its about honor, because the men who built the world ran on it. If you weren't honorable you got a dishonorable death. Now kids will shoot their enemies rather that fight, because there is no more honor in the world of combat.
When swords became the main method of combat can you imagine trying to explain the wizardry of the future……like hey guys just so you know I can sit in my chambers way a crossed the land and watch your every move through a portal that shows me what you are doing. Then I can fly my magic fireball right into your chain link shirt.
This is why AI is dangerous, you select the target turn off communication and it finishes it. Edit ( so an AI drone isn't more dangerous than a radio control drone.....)
@@carlll6101 depends on few factors, some drones operate completly free, and only need a human to push a button to deploy for example a hellfire missile. But the target itself wasnt detected by a human at all. Im pretty sure that kamikaze drones can be programmed to function like this as well, making them ai-kamikaze drones. Scary stuff
I think he would be happy. His son could become a drone pilot instead of an infantry forced to walk around in a bombed-out forest in the middle of the night.
Civil War 2.0 in the USA would be insane. More guns than every army on earth COMBINED x20, + the strongest military on earth. This will be a seriously dangerous combination if push comes to shove. Atleast we will have lots of great 4k footage for any future generations. (if there are future generations after a war like that...)
Your gonna grab tinfoil after I tell you Hollywoods been subliminally telling us what's happening and going to happen and sold it to us as entertainment lmao
And a lot of hearing damage from artillery and gun shots. Each round leaving the bearal of a gun is a sonic boom. That leaves you with a constant EEEEEE
I did drone warfare in Hosenfeld back in 2015/16. You can’t see shit and sometimes you can’t hear the drone. We got to our spot for the night, started to set up. Then bam, Arty sim. We jumped back in and just fucking drove, didn’t know where to, didn’t know where was safe. We had the OCs chasing us and throwing arty sims the entire time. I told my driver to get into the trees and drive into that bush line. This shit was at night and the nvgs were just fucking us up. We stayed in the bushes for an hour till the OC had enough laugh time and told us the drones are gone. I might not have had live rounds dropping or kamikaze drones… But I completely understand why these guys were stalked. We thought ice mortars were bad and the cone of death was bad… The fear of drones chasing you is the same as the fear of the cone of death. We didn’t get sleep for two days because of the drone training. Drone warfare is fucking devastating.
I was in the ADF for 4 years, one of the biggest things on my mind about modern warfare is you wouldn't even know if a well placed mortar or missile would take you out while you where just sitting there, eating or talking with a friend. Its 100x worse than that now, all these drones flying around. I feel for the soldiers on both sides. Dieing for what will amount to nothing in the grand scheme of things. Repel the invaders for sure, id do the same, but I place more value on a child smiling at his Dad than another dead soldier.
When I was in, they didn't spend a lot of time on what's gonna happen to you, just what you'll do to the enemy. BF4 taught me death comes from everywhere, Ukraine footage just solidified that thought in my mind.
@@robert48044when I was in we spent a good amount of time to what could happen to use. To be more efficient when reacting to contact and lowering the risks involved when being ambushed.
They aren't repelling shit. At the end of this they will all have died for nothing. Either Russia will take over or it will install Russian leadership. be real, other countries aren't going to put themselves in actual harms way for fucking Ukraine.
Britian's Elbit Systems Hermes drones stalked the British WCK Aid Workers too, and hit all 3 targets perfectly. Starvation means Starvation, it doesn't mean Aid.
@@VE3LIX The battlefields in Ukraine are subject to heavy artillery bombardment, so, uh, that's what the OP means. Most areas look like the surface of the moon, in terms of the sheer amount of shells being launched by both sides.
@romoalex nah if you're running a consumer grade fpv in that environment with all the rf interference you are almost in Frontline trenches, it's not like predator drones sitting in a trailer in another country
@@sniperjared Very true but I know that longer distance drone operating bases are discovered and targeted.. Same for deep bunker complexes, literal nowhere is safe
Been flying FPV since 2015 and at that speed the video isn’t moving correctly. That’s someone carrying a FPV drone. Videos are steadier at faster speeds.
I've owned drones and I call bullshit. "WHIIIZZZZZ WHHHEEEERRR WWHHHIIIZZZZ" Ya feel me? It takes a reaction on the surroundings to move a drone. There's no way tomake a drone silent if it's using props to move itself through air.
I agree it’s not a drone, it just doesn’t move like one. One way a drone might be able to sneak up behind someone is have a small speaker attached to it and use notch filtering, like how they reduced the vuvuzela sound at the 2010 World Cup
I don’t know anything about this video, but I do know my old drone for work was sssooooooo loud. There would be no sneaking around with that thing. My boss upgraded and omg. 😱 You certainly get what you pay for, and I think he may have had a slight midlife crisis. 😂
I've heard that russians said they heard drones fly around them basicly nonstop. They got used to it and were like "if it will kill me, then so be it".
No what is is is that they got hearing damage from guns and artillery as well as the constent background noise of you know a war going on in the background.
Keep in mind they have been boots on the ground around explosive ordinance and other loud noises that most likely effect they're hearing. That or they can have ear pro on and depending what they have or don't have will effect how they hear or don't hear a small motor the sound of a mosquito.
What gets me is they didn't even hear the horror movie music playing 🤯 On a serious note, yeah that's terrifying thinking everyone is hit because 2 numbnuts can't do their job
Lets not forget the capabilities. Aside from suidice stalkers we are not far off from at least equipping these things with a .22 and popping silent death without losing functionality. They could start fires while the people controlling it set up in an ambush point Communicate with artillery squads and snipers etc
Unless the props are COMPLETELY silent, they’d absolutely be able to hear a drone from that distance. Or maybe there was some type of constant background noise.
Most likely since that forest is blasted to hell. The entire area is a warzone. Mortars and live fire even across the field would easily cover the noise. Also like the other guy said their hearing is going to be screwed for a long time and a faint ringing is going to be constant.
It's pitch black though so they might of heard it hence why they was moving anyway and just thought it was high up or something scout drone rather then demo drone
@@xaviergirard3983 I do have an idea of how loud guns and explosions are. If you noted the last thing I mentioned about the constant background noise you wouldn’t have felt the need to say that.
@@richardkudrna7503 Are you sure that doesnt look like passive thermal to me looks like a flood light. I dunno how small you can get passive thermal electronics but I know these ir flood lights and camera can be absolutely tiny. I would suspect in order to be quiet enough to avoid detection and carry a change these things gotta be tiny af.
You are correct, it’s a floodlight and night vision rig. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0146/9199/1616/files/SIONYX_Monochrome_XQE-1350___Color_XQE-1351_Spec_Sheet_R3_-_9.5.23.pdf?v=1694554244 For these I took a Quick Look and about .3 W for camera and .05W IR diode lamp would do this. Only need the lamp if there’s no starlight. Thermal scopes for rifle are getting very compact however.
@@REASONvsRANDOM Its tech that proactively changes to match the environment that multiple AI cameras detect. In simple terms, say it is flying over you on a semi cloudy day, the cameras on top pick up the sky and change the bottom appearance as it travels to match the sky, making it almost invisible.
Fun fact: it was actually used as an elevated lookout with night vision so they could see whats up ahead and besides them while they traverse a dark forest. The drone wasnt needed during their rest, so it 'returned home.'
One of the cool things about this new combat, instead of risking your neck to just look somewhere, you can throw up this small ass drone instead, and even arm it if you want.
At first I thought you were wrong and it was a friendly drone being utilized as night vision for an under equipped squad or something till the end. Thats wild they didn’t hear it, I know there is developments in drone blade technology that I think Stanford developed but it doesn’t silence them just greatly reduces the noise. I have many questions from this video and one major take away, situational awareness.
It’s going slow and with a reduced prop RPM. If you do that with some of the prop designs that are super quiet, it basically vanishes from hearing, you will feel the airflow before you hear it
yeah low rpm plus minimal hearing by the soldiers. Those trees were most definitely not branches before, sitting in a trench while being bombed all day will for sure cause some damage to your ear drums.
From my experience on the line. They did hear it, but imagine you have like 10 drones around your position. 6 friendly, 4 enemy. So you just hear goddamned drones everywhere you go.
That's why you never ever become complacent with your environment. You'll always die or get hurt. This is a life rule in mining. People in the mining industry who become complacent in their work environment usually get hurt or die.
They should invent some sort of headgear with a HUD and it can use AI or something to pick up noises we cant hear but also distinguish where and what those noise are coming from. Just like how video games show directional footprints on the screen when someone is nearby.
Shot spotter does it with bullets pints to a direction of incoming and knows the difference between out going or rounds not being shot near it. It tells you where on a little led clock shaped display. Id wonder if that could be used just reprogrammed for the sound of drones. It would definitely be cheaper and small plus easier to implement for a squad size element or light vehicles vs a radar or lidar or whatever system
There is a book called "Redliners" I highly recommend if you like military futuristic sci-fy. The soldiers (Strikers) use an AI augmented helmet that uses sensors to give the soldier complete situational awareness. Drake is the author.
I f*cking hate this war weaponized drones. edit: The people who don't understand what I mean. I'm talking about commercial drones like FPV race drones and DJI mavericks.
I know i feel like it causes even more suffering than regular war, not to mention that the drone operators are gonna be treated like snipers and machine gunners. Whole thing breeds extra suffering
@@OliveClover5855 It's just psychologically daunting. I suspect you become desensitized when you're a few months in. God, seeing it from an outside perspective, watching the videos; I don't care at all about this war. But, just that whole FPV drones with grenades and mortars is, something else. I got robbed at gun point and once with a knife pointed at my gut a few times growing up. Drones gotta be a new fear.
They are coming to America! A concealble wearable drone swarm launcher combined with body armor will render firearms obsolete. Schools could be fitted with cameras hooked up to pods stuffed with autonous micro drones that could identify a shooter and swarm the guy with various less lethal devices in way under a minute. Under a minute is key to preventing school shooters. Soldier need to be armed with drone Jaming devices the Chinese are making a variety including a shield that also jams the signals to the drone and rifle shaped Jamers it is going to change battle fields forever.
Drones are loud as shit. Even tiny ones. This was definitely a friendly drone and the operator full sent it to the soilder for retrieval since the battery was low.
Bro does not know what hearing lose is from artillery and a dozen sonic booms leaving a gun barrel. As well as the fact that there is a war going on in the background that is a little loud.
That is terrifying... How cheap are those drones? It's the difference between being fairly sure they're not sending a stealth aircraft after you because we know it's too expensive to bother vs we paid $50 and strapped a grenade's worth of C4 to it.
Bro they are like 500 bucks. You can even build cheaper FPV drones it’s fucking terrifying $500 drone and a mortar shell. You could just tape the motor shell to the drone
@@SavageJones-ig2kiI've seen them tape Al types of stuff rpg shells,small bombs.i saw one today on telegram,it was heavy Russian drone and they strapped a heavy antitank mine on it
The drones are very affordable... The munitions attached to it probably cost well more than any tech involving the drone. They are NOT quiet. The soldiers in this video are well aware of the drone following them. They are probably desensitized at this point and aren't expecting it to be armed. The drones are insanely loud. Especially at that throttle level (the number in the bottom middle of the screen) At 40% throttle, the drones are screaming. Even the smallest of drones are loud.. They are not sneaking up on you without moving fast, and using the terrain when flying *just like military helicopters and jets do.
@@markturchanik7907 Where are you getting this information about the capability of a $500 drone? I have three custom drones that say otherwise. The drone/munitions combo being used in these uploads are easily identifiable (Typically a hand grenade dropped via a servo). Even the on screen displays are being generated from the same software I use on my drones daily. To your other point… nowhere near possible to make these drone silent. The amount of air displacement these machines are putting out alone will cause leaves and brush to make noise loud enough to be detectable… too bad the motors and propellers at this throttle level shown in the video are basically deafening lol 😂 actually, the soldiers can’t hear shit besides these drones. They are carrying mortars with most of these… not necessary, not ideal. They want to fly for a long as possible, and chip away at any morale they can… horribly wounding the enemy is preferred and more impactful in most cases. They gather as much intel as possible, hence the “low battery” indicator almost ALWAYS flashing before the attack. This drone had a one way trip schedule for that flight… odds are is that they were watching those soldiers all day, and the part that got uploaded for people to see was after the decided they had nothing to gain from them anymore. These drones are cheap. Very cheap. Odds are, the batteries are the most expensive component in the entire build.
Drones are so OP on a battlefield. Basically nowhere to hide and you can't outrun them or effectively defend against them on a personal level. I imagine the arrival of tanks on the battlefield in WW1 to be a similar comparison. Unbeatable odds. Only with a tank you can hide and attack. Add some thermal to a drone and you're basically a fish in a barrel
Also shows the importance of spacing, because the drone operator was waiting till they were close enough together, to try and wound/kill the other as well.
BS. That’s a friendly drone and there is no drone IN EXISTENCE that is THAT silent. The only way that would be possible is if people had music blasting in their ears totally disconnected from surrounding sounds. The drone is NOT 50 or even 20 yards away and it shows how little this guy knows about wide lens perspective. Also the drone CLEARLY landed next to the guy who is probably operating it. It was moving really slow and the solder used its night vision as an extra eye in the sky. How naive can someone be.
@@rzrramon8310 bro do you have eyes go read that guys comment he’s furious 😂 acted like the dude that made the video kicked him in the nuts or something Jesus Christ. I like the burn about the beer tho that was a good one lol have a good day buddy
Drones are the reason why I do not want to go into modern warfare. Imagine being cold, hungry and trapped in a hole for two weeks just to hear a little buzz over your head and see a grenade drop next to your dead friend.
Don't matter what hearing protection u have on. If a shell lands close enough you'll have tinnitus. And you're almost certainly not sleeping with ear pro on. So that midnight attack when all the guns open up and artillery starts dropping is gonna permanently fuck your hearing.
I feel like those are friendlies he’s driving behind, seemed like a great way to spot enemies quicker and give the foot soldiers information on there location. Not only that, but like the RU-vidr said, they are pretty loud, maybe a good way to mask friendly footsteps in the night.
@chamonix4658 neither of those dudes in the video even turn around. It's clear that they have absolutely no idea it is there. So what would they be looking for if they have no idea they're currently being hunted?
@@mcnuffin1208 If the Russian government had the money and desire to give every Russian soldier night vision (as we basically do in the US military), then those Russian soldiers would be wearing those night vision devices, as the video was taken at night. And because the drone has to use IR light for the camera’s digital night vision, that light would be seen by the Russians with their night vision devices, so they would then know the drone is there.
its really sad when people die. i dont care which side those soldiers are fighting for, i just feel sad when they die because they all have love ones waiting for them to come back home in one piece.
I used to identify aircraft and missiles and tanks on news broadcasts in the break room, when someone told me that I know so much about this stuff why was I not in the military. I told him it was because I knew so much about this stuff. For those that serve, I salute you.
Drones are hard to hear, but this is too close. Looks like a staged video. Ukraine from time to time posts videos of their drones chasing soldiers. There is no reason to do this except to keep people interested in this war by showing "funny" videos of drones killing people for your average redditor to lough at. They are missing more targets and alerting more of them then other drone operators that just put their drone in a dive and don't give more then 2 second warning to anyone with out a radio frequency detector.
they are in a combat zone. they tend to be noisy, not to mention they were stomping along pretty good. amazing how ones own foot steps can drowned out sound.
@leftyo9589 maybe, but I don't buy it. Combat zones aren't constantly noisy. Most of the time it's quiet followed by intense action. No one has an unlimited supply of artillery, rockets or ammo so you shoot when you need to. My guess would be this is an overwatch not a stalk but hey I'm always willing to admit I'm wrong it just seems weird to me.
@NorybDrol82 that could be, but depending on that as a battle strategy is just plain retarded and by this point in the war only your veterans are left alive everyone else that's stupid (for the most part) is dead.
FPV pilot here. It’s honestly quite sad the soldiers here did not hear the drone. These things are not quiet at all. The operator did a very good job of preventing any rpm changes in his flying. Another thing to consider is that the drone operator can’t be more than a couple hundred meters MAX from that drone. While these drones are very deadly in the current situation they’re being used in, they are very easily defeated and both sides of the war need to step it up if they want to survive.
From what people are saying, this was their drone used an extra eye around them. Gonna look this komap wild division shit up to see if this was an attack or not. But I'd believe it was a follower drone these men were using before I would believe it was a kamikaze drone. It would make more sense if they were dropping ordinance on them rather than kamikaze a perfectly good drone
@@tdbla98 Komap is blowing smoke out of their bums for propaganda. It was a lookout drone for the guys and those dudes aren't even wearing military gear, more like hiking/camping gear, the battery said "low" so more than likely stopped to replace the battery, (Also they have 0 rifles on them). This guy Kagan has no idea what he's talking about.
They didn’t hear it Because they have hearing lose from artillery and a dozen sonic booms leaving their gun barrel. As well as the fact that there is a war going on in the background that is noisy.
Two soldiers, in enemy territory, not surrendering, and armed. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make it eligible for a war crime. Direct that anger at the one who decided that invade Ukraine was a good idea.
@@jesusofbullets They didn't really get chance to surrounder tho. That's my only issue with this kind of warfare. You can't give up. How is it different from nuclear warfare? Both situations, you're dead and there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it.
When we go to war with China in a couple of months they don’t believe in war crimes they believe in total warfare . Meaning there is no rules. They don’t abide by any Geneva conventions because they’re communists and believe they’re superior to western law. There’s no rules in war so be prepared.
@@TheActualSsotyi That’s like saying “with mortars/artillery/bombs they don’t have a chance to give up”. It’s a bit absurd. You don’t wait until you are in combat to surrender. They are actively in a foreign country, invading another nation’s soil. That nation is actively repelling them. They’ve had every waking second to do so. You put down your arms, preferably don a white flag, and walk slowly towards enemy lines yelling that you surrender. Plenty of Russians already have. Combat is not nice. It is not pretty. It is not clean. It is dirty, disgusting, and horrific. Maybe those were the nicest Russians in Ukraine. Doesn’t matter. They were enemy troops and they made their choice. If you are clearing a room in CQB, you don’t have a choice of waiting for the enemy to surrender when you blow the door open. I don’t think you understand the difference between combat ideals and reality. Ideally, the Russians would hear the drone, immediately surrender, and everyone would go home unharmed. In reality, they’ll run for cover or shoot down the drone, and that’s yet another asset lost. War is made up of all those lost or gained assets. Taking out two soldiers is cumulative to winning a war.
They didn’t hear it Because they have hearing lose from artillery and a dozen sonic booms leaving their gun barrel. As well as the fact that there is a war going on in the background that is noisy.
They have those mini silent drones we gave them about the size of a bird. Used as surveillance. So light however that it can only be used in good weather with no wind
Reason they can’t hear is actually a lot simpler than you think. Bugs. Bugs mating and hundreds of thousands of them singing the song of their people will drown out any drone noise from a decent distance
They didn’t hear it Because they have hearing lose from artillery and a dozen sonic booms leaving their gun barrel. As well as the fact that there is a war going on in the background that is noisy.
I have a DJI mini, one of the first things I noticed was how quiet and unnoticeable it is even when it’s hovering just 10 meters above your head! You really have to be listening for it to notice it, pretty terrifying
Bruh. If they were always checking their 6 for drones, then they'd never advance. Situational awareness in war is absolutely horrible. How do you not know that
KOMAP is a Russian FPS operator squad. And these 2 soldiers are clearly wearing ukrainian camo. Russian camo is distinctively darker and green. Just because someone from the West is uploading this, it doesn't have to be about Russians taking losses.
for anybody that still doesn’t know those drones literally hunt people down and fly up to them as close as possible before exploding like a land mine it’s fucking crazy
Being an FPV pilot, that’s impossible. FPV drones scream like “IM HERE. IM HERE” They are definitely not stealthy at all if you’re at that close proximity.
Fpv drones have extremely limited range notice the low battery warning. This drone can only fly for 5-7 mins max… and a range of 2miles or so at most. This technology is maxed out until batteries improve.
