A Few Good Men 4K - Kaffee has Kendrick on the witness stand -committed a crime - Tom Cruise 

Aaron Sorkin

So is he. Lestat.

@@eddiek8179 Kendrick's dad is a vampire hunter.

So is kaffee....he is the Ultimate vampire - he is Lestat!

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Or Venom Snake.

You can only put a marine/sailor on a bread 🥖 and water 💧/limited rations punishment for a period not to exceed three days and only on board a naval vessel.

Billb, sir if you believe this? Then you have never served in a forward deployed unit under combat conditions. Deprivation is a form of training and conditioning to prepare soldiers.

​@@geroldsloan9369They were not under combat conditions despite Jessop's hysterics. Cuba and the US were not at war

And you speak on what authority? I experienced it while not in combat or war as a training tool to instill confidence in ones ability to function while under physical stress and deprivation. I do not believe my experience as a member of a forward deployed combat unit​@@jamesbutler8821was unusual.

@@geroldsloan9369Not a complete deprivation of food. Even the Army, which allows for major food deprivation, gives a few MREs a day. Hell Week, the Navy’s food deprivation, gives a little food every 2-3 hours

Marines are Devil Dogs. Bringing a hungry dog food is never a bad idea. Surely the joker taught us that lesson when he fed a mob boss to his own dogs

Lance Cpl Dawson DISOBEYD an order!

@@SaSouthSide210 Unlawful order

@@stanleysanders9099. I would have had to be given a below average rating too.

@@stanleysanders9099It’s a crime to obey an unlawful order. This would have been.

Doesn’t seem fair, does it? In real life, Jessup would’ve thrown him and Downey under the bus, got off Scott-free.

@@GizmoBeachthat’s essentially what happened anyway. The whole trial was about the junior Marines getting thrown under the bus. Jessup gave the order, Kendrick delegated the responsibility of carrying out the order to Dawson (as a test to see where Dawson’s loyalties lied after the Curtis Bell incident, sorta giving him a chance to redeem himself for that), Dawson probably brought Downey along to help with the code red, they give the code red, Santiago dies as a result. When Jessup finds out that Santiago is dead because of an illegal unlawful order he gave, that’s when the wheels started turning. He coerced the doctor to rule the cause of death as lactic acidosis by way of poisoning, got Markinson to draft up the phony transfer order, got the tower chiefs of both Gitmo and Andrews Air Force Base to change the logbooks, then arranged the plea deal so that Dawson and Downey would only do six months in prison before being dishonorably discharged. All so he could avoid accountability for what he caused. See in his famous speech he talks about honor, code and loyalty but he really doesn’t have any of those qualities. He violated the order of no more code reds from the secretary of the navy by ordering one anyway so he violated code. He orchestrated the punishment which led to the death of a Marine in his charge, and when it went awry he orchestrated a coverup of the whole thing to save his and Kendrick’s career and was very flippant about the death of Santiago as well as the two marinesa d perjured himself on the stand so he had no honor. And then he was gonna let two junior Marines who were trained to blindly follow orders without question or hesitation be the fall guys for something he started which could’ve been prevented so he could save his own skin and get his promotion to that next assignment he had lined up, so there’s the lack of loyalty. The two things that busted the case open was Markinson going UA and telling Kaffee what happened and Dawson refusing to take the plea deal and asking to go on trial. Had those two things not happened, they would’ve taken the fall and Jessup and Kendrick would’ve gotten off Scot free.

​​@@GizmoBeachHe tried, which is why strings were pulled so that Division would assign the defense to Kaffee, a lazy JAG lawyer with a track record for plea-bargaining. They just didn't expect that Kaffee would suddenly give a shit and put 100% effort

Not in the real world. In fact the judge would say that would have to be addressed in a separate action.

@@1000kings1 would that separate action not require arrest though? Jessop was arrested IMMEDIATELY for ordering the NJP, is it really so difficult to accept that they might to the same to Kendrick?

UCMJ

@@daetoris4473 I'm talking about the real world, not some fantasy movie where a jerkoff lawyer who didn't care about anything somehow pisses off a high ranking officer. UCMJ is just like all other courts. They have their protected favorites. Maybe Air Force or Navy in some case might be slightly more favorable to E 1-3 but not much.

Agreed. Trust me I was in the corps as well. I love Rob Reiner, the director of this, but I swear Hollywood will never get anything right when they portray the military 🤦‍♂️

I was wondering the EXACT same thing

@@jonfranks6902. Jessup covered it up for Him.

You're ignorant that's why.

Because there was never any charges or reprimands for that. Remember the officer in charge of him Col Jessup is essentially the same kind of guy as Kendrick, only with more rank and a lot more arrogance. I’m pretty sure he looked the other way on the Bell incident, which is even more believable considering it was Jessup himself who ordered the Code Red on Santiago. Clearly he condones this sort of thing.

If u watch the Legal Eagle they explain that this wouldnt happen in a real court martial and that the comment the judge says doesnt make any sence

Or watch it 110 times the way many of us did 😊

All of Kaffee's case was a spectacular magic show until Jessup finally spilled the beans. Yes, Kaffee was able to raise a few *suspicions* in the jury's minds that something else that's fishy *MIGHT* be going on, but at the end of the day, all he had was the word of two accused Marines who claimed they "just followed an order". Without any proof that this order was given, the judge cannot allow Kaffee insinuate or imply that Kendrick ordered the Code Red and slander his record. There's gotta be proof, and in the absence of proof, the judge has to accept Kendrick's rebuttal of "I never gave any such order to those men."

@@CheerfullyCynical829 Except Kaffee has every right to ask pointed questions of Kendrick, and the judge cannot throw out an entire line of questioning simply due to Kendrick's record. Remember: Dawson and Downey are presumed INNOCENT until proven otherwise (And no, that is still the case in a military court). Furthermore, while Kendrick cannot state what all 400+ Marines were thinking, Kaffee can easily call forward those Marines to testify to the Curtis Bell incident. Remember, the other Marine who testified stated that he was given a Code Red simply for dropping his rifle, meaning that Code Red's likely happened to many others on the base, and that Kendrick HAD ordered them in the past. Kendrick's reputation/credibility wouldn't stand up against the testimony of dozens of Marines who had witnessed Kendrick ordering Code Reds on a regular basis. And if Code Red's were common, then Dawson and Downey would be able to legally claim that they believed a Code Red to be a lawful order and that they could not therefore be held responsible for Santiago's death beyond conduct unbecoming and possible manslaughter.

@@kylewilson2819 I think the entire mentioning of the service record was thrown in for dramatic effect. In reality you’re right in that it would have no bearing on the case itself.

@@kylewilson2819 It's also worth noting that the prosecution had demonstrated beyond doubt that Downey was definitely acting upon Dawson's orders and Downey was under the impression that the order had come direct from Kendrick. Dawson's much harder until Jessup confessed. Kendrick and Jessup both maintained that it was bunk and by everyone's admission, Dawson was the only one to receive the order and Dawson had a credible motive of retaliation. Yes, Dawson could've received a private discussion but without something corroborating it, the jury would've likely believed it was as close to certain as anyone reasonably could've gotten that Dawson was acting upon his own initiative. Though if they had been able to prove the doctored flight logs, the mere act of doctoring the flight logs likely would've been enough to let reasonable doubt back in. Apparently in the play, the flight logs from the destination airbase were not doctored and it's a bit of an oddity that, in the movie, Jessup could've gotten that done and made the men on duty that night have amnesia. Overall, though, the defense did an excellent job showing the unreasonable constraints that Dawson had been put in with the question of obeying and disobeying Code Reds. They demonstrated that the crime committed was, at worst, manslaughter, likely aggravated by a medical condition. They also demonstrated that Colonel Jessup and Lieutenant Kendrick had no respect for the rules against hazing and that the culture ran deep. And the prosecution put no energy into asking what the alternatives were for Dawson other than performing the Code Red. So they built both ends of the bridge, they just needed the middle piece that does anything to suggest that a Code Red had been ordered. They filled it with Jessup.

You might be interested with the real life story The 3 (out of 10; other 7 went with plea bargain and got dishonorably discharged) were cleared from murder and conspiracy charges. Although one of them (David Cox) got charged with "Simple Assault" since he was using a shear to shave William Alvarado's (basis for William Santiago) head. David Cox was able to be honorably dischaged. Though, there was added drama in comparison to the real life case. As William Alvarado survived and recovered from his ordeal, while the fictional William Santiago did not.

​@@A7XFan800 Adding to the interest is the unsolved murder of David Cox.

They just want to make an example out of these two.

They got dishonorable discharges because they lacked the judgement to know that this was an unlawful order and even if it came from higher, it doesn’t change the fact that they caused the death of another marine. Doesn’t matter whether they intended to or not, it happened. So they still have to be reprimanded for that. I mean do you think Santiago’s parents care if there was intent to kill or not?? Bottom line is their son is dead and these two Marines are still responsible because they carried out the actions that led to his death. Doesn’t matter who gave the order, they followed it and Santiago died as a result.

@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293 So were they supposed to refuse the order and face the punishment for doing so like Dawnson had already done once? He was denied a promotion because he disobeyed an order. What do you think would have happened if he'd refused it? I know you're right, and that an example has to be made, and effectively a precedent set, but I still don't have to like it.

On God!

he's a great actor. never seen a movie with keifer sutherland in it i didn't like, especially dark city.

His character loathes Kaffee. Finds him weak and unworthy of the uniform.

In the beginning, he speaks as one from..central Iowa. Only later-on does he "drawl." ..So many millions contributed to a new film, back then.., and "Edit" overlooks such an obvious..mis-step.

@@stevenwilliams2617I do love a Dark City reference, well played.

You’re absolutely right, I have never thought about it that way. It’s a 100% better way of asking essentially the same question, and bypasses any objection Cpt Ross might have.

Agreed. Kaffee could have probably secured the acquittal right then and there without needing to subpeona Jessup. But then, we wouldn’t have a movie, now would we?

That is a pretty good point as Kafee would have stated the facts of the case based on the way Kendrick was stating it. But if Kafee did ask this question, we would expect that Kendrick being a "hard to crack" witness that his character was written to be, would have calmly said: "Obviously, he did". Which, as it is written, gets the story to whether he should put Jessup on the stand.

No it shouldn't have. You are not a better screenwriter than whoever wrote this dialogue.

It would’ve worked either way. Whether the order to give the Code Red, or to not touch Santiago, the conclusion would be the same.

Jessop and Markinson could have been involved in the decision to promote Dawson. So prosecution consider Kaffee making Kendrick speculate - an act of irrelevant speculation.

He is trying to make a point to the jury, not to the witness.

In America we follow lawful orders which has been clear since the civil war.

@@zerocool1344 uh, big words about an army involved in My Lai, just to name one...

Giving a Hungry Man some Food is a Crime🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤢🤢🤢🤢

Nah…there are lawful orders and unlawful orders. Both of which, are taught in basic training.

@@joshbarclay1769 They don't go into details what is a lawful or unlawful order in basic training since military law is different than civilian law and they don't teach you to be a military lawyer in basic. Giving you bread and water for a week was normal Non-Judicial punishment in the military for decades until recently.

@@deathfire096that was only on a naval vessel which they were not on. And the time period allowed for that was three days not seven.

@@deathfire096Only on ships at sea and this guy didn’t even receive bread.

No. He’d be I’d say at the correct range of age

@@alphadynamics2719 Hmm I see.

You can be a first lieutenant even younger than that.

@@exacerbatedfellow1236. Well that’s true. Many of the Tuskegee Airmen weren’t even 25 yet before they made Lieutenant and even Captain.

Wiped that smug smile off his face after the judge mentioned his “impeccable service record.” Kendrick no doubt had committed other immoral, questionable acts in his time, considering he knew two innocent Marines might go to prison for an order he gave, but pretended he didn’t.

Very true!

Very nice! Demi Moore’s words to Cruise earlier

I haven't been in the military so can't answer your question but just wanted to let you know that you should 100% watch the film in its entirety. I won't spoil anything but the alleged Code Red in the film was to gag, tie up and beat an unfit Marine. The unfit Marine died during this and the whole movie is about who should be blamed. It's one of the few films I would give a 10/10.

@@MrBraddles3128 that does in fact, sound more like a code red. I'll definitely check it out. I've only ever heard good things about it.

I was at AIT at Ft Sill in 2006. We had this DI (drill instructor) who took 2 muscular dudes out of my platoon and beat up this other guy in his office. He watched over the whole thing and gave them a thumbs up afterwards. The two guys didn’t get in any trouble, but the DI was handed down some UCMJ after we left. I haven’t heard of starving anybody as an punishment. The only food punishment was when you didn’t like someone, when you were passing around MRE, you would give them the veggie omelet lol.

That’s kind of the point, though. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the movie, but it’s all centered around the fact that the code red in question was an illegal order and the officers who ordered it tried to cover it up at the expense of the enlisted men they they ordered to carry it out.

From what I understand, what defines a Code Red is that it's the practice of enlisted men initiating discipline upon other enlisted men. What an officer does is called something else. Is that right?

Danny did say He wanted to Slam Dunk Kendrick when He got Him on the Stand🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

You dont judge marines are this movie , or because of one tool bag . It takes alot of critical thinking to survive in combat being out numbered .something a harvard grad doesnt learn

No worries. Keifer is an attractive person-masculine & sexy.

He was good in Young guns, so was Emelio

Yes, a big favor. LOL, and the film title for this fiasco is called Richard Simmons fasts for 7 days!

Fasting never helps health.

@@Ares99999 That is ignorant.

@@YD-uq5fi Depends on your definition and length of "fasting"

How exactly is the poor guy supposed to get back to doing strenuous and exhausting physical activity for 8-9 hours a day after a week-long water fast?