A GATHERING OF MEN, WITH ROBERT BLY 

Could you elaborate further? I'm in a crisis right now, struggling to find my way and recognizing many psychological issues that I have. I don't know what or who to be anymore.

@@DoomGappy1994 What would you like me to elaborate upon specifically?

@@longlakeshore Your views on the topic of masculinity Your views about yourself and your own self esteem Your relationship to other people Your emotional maturity

@@DoomGappy1994 On masculinity. Most of what is defined as masculine and feminine is determined by the culture in which a child is raised. One example is an old nursery rhyme I was taught as a child: "Girls are sugar, spice and everything nice. Boys are snips, snails and puppy dog tails." This taught children what they were expected to be based on their sex. Little boys and girls quickly conform to this standard. Those who don't will be criticized. This creates the expectation that men must be hard and strong while women must be soft and empathetic. The problem with this is that those characteristics are personality traits common to both sexes. This leads to men to repress empathy & sympathy. It leads women to repress their strength & mastery. The fact is these personality traits are neither masculine or feminine. They are HUMAN. We all have them. The danger is repressing them. Myself and my self esteem. My self esteem is does not come from outside myself. I do not care what others think of me or how they judge me. My relationship to other people. As best I can I keep an open, non judgmental mind about all people especially those I don't like or aren't easy to be around. Other than that I receive others with hospitality and let them go in peace.

@@longlakeshore You are a great dude

I am rereading that.

Jano, I agree, Iron John spoke to me like nothing ever before. If you haven’t done Jiu Jitsu, it is equally life changing.

How did the book help you become a more masculine man?

The book was extremely painful to read because it focused on everything I missed out on not having a father growing up. On the plus side, it altered my perception of masculinity. I realized that I was embracing a phony masculinity that has destroyed men, a meaningless one that was being sold by soulless profiteers.

I had the opportunity to tell my father that what he considered one of his big mistakes was actually the greatest gift (it actually was) he had given me and my brother. It gave him immense peace.

A strong man indeed

❣️🔥

Amen

Are you related to him?

Well said

Me too

Moyer is an asshole globalist and a consumate liar.

I think it is a bouzouki, a greek instrument

Thank you for sharing this for us

"TS Eliot, the love song of j Alfred Prufrock" ( from reading Closed Caption he is referring to the Eliot poem).

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My father never attempted suicide, but he often told me that he would prefer to be dead than living another day. That is brutal. I have struggled hard to recover from many episodes of depression. A distant, false mother didn't really help either. But I am determined to rediscover life. How are you nowadays? Thanks!

Your father never said that at all. Stop lying.

Don't put Jordan Peterson and Robert Bly in the same sentence, JP is the charlatan Bly is talking about