Definitely. I used red red to tint back my platinum to go brunette. A year later, I lightened to go red, so I used neutral to fill the lightened hair. Excellent results each time
I know this video is old, but still super helpful. I've been platinum for 3 years now and thinking of going a level 6 Auburn or copper red. I know I'm high porosity, so definitely think I'm going to use a filler. I also love this haircut!
Tiger Pup ....thank you for doing this tutorial....WAY too many don't understand POROSITY.....i tell people all the time it's a primer for your paint (color) ....
I want to bleach and tone my roots to match the rest of my platinum hair. Do I use a filler between each round of bleach? Do I wait til before I tone? Should I do it a few days before I bleach, to protect my hair? So many questions. But great video! It helps to see that application
Great question! I would do the filler a few days before or after the lightening & toning process but I'm leaning moreso to using it after Lighten & tone as usual (without the filler) so you won't have to worry about it diluting the toner to the point where it becomes ineffective. Plus we wouldn't want to risk protein overload by applying the filler before & After which can strengthen the hair but also leave it more dry, brittle & susceptible to breakage. That's what I would do. Thanks for watching, commenting & good luck!
Such a helpful video and clearly explained!! You can tell you are passionate 😍 Had no idea about conditioner being an alternative to filler.. will be great to compare conditioner vs fillers halves 🥳I'm assuming you'd normally do mid-lengths and ends first starting from bottom of head so easy to lie hair downwards as each section done and then roots last to avoid the warmth of skin creating high lift or hot roots (being lighter and brighter then ends)?
Hi & thanks for watching and commenting! And thanks for your kind words! I really appreciate that! That sounds like a great idea to color a manikin head with one side using a conditioner as filler and the other side using an actual filler! Thanks for that! Now on to you second question; because this application was deposit in this video I would apply the color from the roots to ends. If I were lifting the color I would apply mid-lengths & ends then do the roots to avoid hot roots. I hope that helps. Thanks, Tinks!
Thanks! Hi, that's a good question. Not so sure about long hair but I did feature at least three black manikins on my channel. The 1st one can be found here on his and her hair goods website but she gotten much lighter than when I purchased her but her hair is very natural. Here's a link to that website: www.hisandher.com/gloria-head.html I also did a video featuring this mannequin (her name is Gloria on the website) The link is here: Demi permanent haircolor tutorial with protein filler ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-61lq6OkMenA.html I also did a video with another manikin but I think her hair was supposed to have a relaxed hair texture. Her name was "Yolanda" Here's a link to that video here: Unboxing and review of "Yolanda" mannequin ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TDfFpeYa9x4.html And finally there's another manikin I did a video(review) on. Her name was "Shanice" and her hair was very straight and didn't resemble natural hair at all but she was still a great manikin. The link is here: "Shanice" mannequin head review & demo ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LyUXNR1tOuU.html So when you get a chance take a look at these manikin heads. I'm curious know what you think of them so please let me know. I hope that helped maybe pointing you in the direction of getting a black manikin that might suit your needs. Thanks for watching!
This video was so helpful! I have cooper hair and want to get a lighter cooper but whenever I dye it it turns into a dark reddish cooper. What color filler would you recommend?
Good question. It's very hard to make a recommendation without an actual consultation. But for curiosities sake, what do u mean u dye it? Is this a permanent, demi permanent or semi permanent haircolor? Just a thought maybe you can get highlights & tone them into the lighter copper color u were looking for. You'll have plenty dimension & it's much easier than lightening all of ur hair provided u perform a strand & allergy test beforehand As for a filler, if the RED filler isn't available, I would recommend the NEUTRAL. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@TigrePup thanks for your reply. I used Igora 7-57 with a 7-77 with 20 volume developer permanent color and it turned out a dark red. Darker than the color I had. I’m guessing my hair is very porus. So I used a color remover and im back to a medium cooper. I guess I might try the neutral filler because my hair tends to go to the red dark side. I just wants a lighter bright copper. It looks very dull right now.
@@TigrePup thank you so much! so can I shower, wash my hair (no conditioner), then come out and apply the filler while my hair is wet or should i blow dry then apply it? Also, do you apply the hair color while the filler is still on the hair (the hair is already wet and have the filler on too, will the color stick that way?) Thank you
Hi! Thanks for watching and commenting. My apologies I forgot to mention that I used a volume 10 because in this particular case I only needed deposit only with no lift.
I know this is pretty old, I currently have a bronde color. I dyed my hair a chocolate brown and got highlights so it’s bronde. I hate the color and want to go for light brown. Would I need a filler even if hair shades are similar?
You shouldn't because I'm assuming you're moving less than 2-3 levels but I would do a STRAND TEST just in case. Also is sure that you use a NEUTRAL haircolor in your formulation. This makes sure your resulting color doesn't come up green or something. I hope that helps. Good luck to u Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have a problem. Okay I have many problems but this particular problem is that the neutral protein filler is for use on damp hair 20 minutes before applying dye but my dye (Ion Color Brilliance) says it’s for use on dry hair. It also says you can just add it into your dye mix and apply it all at once…but if I’m applying my dye mix to dry hair will the filler even work?? I’ve been researching this for 3 days now…what’s the worst that could happen using the the Ion dye on damp hair? Uneven color grab? Or will the protein filler prevent that? The color turns out lighter? Back in the day I would just do it and whatever happened happened but I’m getting more cautious with age lol
Great question! Yes the filler will work. I'm thinking that the haircolor manufacturer (Ion) didn't assume that the regular consumer would/will use a filler. So yes typically fillers r applied in this manner then topped with haircolor. I have 2 videos showing how I used a filler and they're applied in the same way: Demi color & protein filler tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-61lq6OkMenA.html A haircolor filler comparison: should you use a filler or not? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hoac9nE-LP0.html Also you can search RU-vid for "How to apply haircolor filler" or something like that for further reference. Also I just grabbed a bottle of filler and yes you can mix the filler with your haircolor formula but notice it's only mixed after the haircolor was applied to the roots first in full strength & THEN the filler can be mixed with the remainder of the color to be applied to mid-lengths and ends. I'm thinking that's for a color refresh & not for a virgin application. So please be careful with that. Thanks for watching and commenting! And good luck!
@@TigrePup Thank you so much! I didn’t expect you to reply because rarely does that ever happen so this is exciting for me, lol. I’ve watched so many filler videos but none specifically addressed me questions until you did. What I ended up doing is buying a bottle of Ion pre-color treatment porosity equalizer and spraying that on my dry hair avoiding my new growth and then going ahead with the Ion Color Brilliance and it came out perfect, but now I feel safe using the protein filler next time thanks to you! ♥️
@@TigrePup I didn’t need this answer, but I know how it feels to search for an answer for days and still not be sure about what step to take. It made me happy that you not only replied, but gave this commenter a straightforward & thorough response. 🥇
Hi and thanks for watching and commenting. I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I will attempt to answer your question This product fills in hair and evens porosity BEFORE coloring the hair so that the final resulting color will be even throughout. So I would suggest that you bleach your hair first then apply this product before toning or recoloring your hair. However if your intention is to use this product as a repairing treatment then I suppose you can use it to strengthen hair before bleaching. I hope that helps. Good luck!
@@TigrePup thank you! You're so sweet to reply. I'm right now trying it before I bleach, leaving it in. Never done this before but my hair is needing the extra help. Hopefully it doesn't affect the lifting. I'll let y'all know if feel it did anything. God bless!
You're very welcome! I really hope you're applying the bleach on dry hair. Either way I am curious to find out how things turned out. I hope the results are great! Good luck!
Question- I am going a ginger color would like it more on the neutral ginger color then a super orange color… I’m going from red and pink hair to this… should I use a brown protein filler (my hair will most likely be orangey blonde) or should I be safe and use the non- colored one?
Hi, sorry it took me a minute to respond but I wanted to process my thoughts so I can give you my best possible answer. Plus it's really hard make a suggestion without a consultation and the terminology being used may be alittle bit confusing. Ok I wasn't sure what a ginger haircolor was so when I looked it up it says it's a tone that falls between "somewhere between a strawberry blonde and the classic red. A common nickname for all redheads, the tone true to the name has more orange in it than the subtler strawberry-blonde and less red as the middle tone classic red." Which SOUNDS like you will most likely end up being which is the orangey blonde you mentioned. I personally wouldn't use a filler in this case if you're going to use a semi-permanent-hair-color. I say this because you mention you'll use either a neutral or brown filler when you could just use a semi-permanent-hair-color in the shade (mixing a brown & the ginger) you want and skip two step process. Plus I've personally never used a filler for a semi-permanent-hair-color only for demi permanent haircolor. So that doesn't mean it's not possible. I hope this makes sense. Let me know what you will do and the results because I'm curious to see how it all turns out Thanks for commenting and watching.
Hi, I'm not sure what do you mean "it's not taking" Are u using a permanent haircolor or lightener? Was the hair previously permanently colored? Did u use henna at any point? It's very difficult to offer a solution without assessing the hair in question. The only advice that I can give u if ur having trouble is to seek the help of a professional haircolorist preferably one u researched to be knowledgeable Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Thanks for watching and commenting
You're very welcome! Yes they are expensive thats why I try really hard not to "scalp" them all at once🤣 but I wanna try so many different things so I know I have to practice.