A Harrowing Sitcom Subversion | "Escape from L.A." Explained 

Edwin Mizen “The darkness is a metaphor for darkness”

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Another dumbest decision Netflix characters ever made. And I thought leaving Todd home alone was the dumbest...

Hmm yes the flier is made of floor

I want quote this as much as I humanly can, I love this

It showed that he is stuck in his past, referring to horsin around as an excuse for expectations

There are people like that in real life. Go completely mad if you don't uproot your life and leave with them

I don’t think that shows his self centred ness but I think it shows how much he wished to have a different life

He expected her to be the same because bojack was the same. He was a stunted 20 year old and never grew up. That’s why he never grows. He is incapable.

It just shows how few real connections Bojack truly had.

You know, maybe a ninja steel magic shall teach him a lesson.

Me too. Her delivery of that line is excellent.

@@notaburneraccount Well you won't see that on Monday Night Raw or Friday Night SmackDown.

I also loved OliviaWilde's voice acting in Charlotte's final appearance in the series, you feel for her as a mother who is deeply concerned about Penny and how she may have been affected long-term emotionally by what Bojack did.

It's so believable as well. This isn't just protective anger at some creepy stranger. This is a feeling of genuine betrayal, the shame of letting in and trusting a person who then took advantage of someone you were responsible for.

That is why it is so smart to make the characters animals. It makes those seriously awkward or scary situations less dramatic

@@briankim0412 What about in Fritz the Cat, Duckman, Regular Show and Wolf Children?

I was a bit uncomfortable, but took it as an uncle taking his niece to prom, which is still weird, but more comforting than thinking of them the other way. But once the mood started to change, oh god I was so uncomfortable.

I saw it as a satire of these headlines that you seem to get every spring of someone asking a famous person to prom and getting a yes.

It’s a cartoon show, how fragile is your mentality to be “uncomfortable “ about it? For gods sakes it’s a horse taking a deer to the prom.

Same!

yeah it's like one of the best shows ever

I’m new to the show. After this, I think I need to brace myself with Season 3....

@@aweirdoandaphone4135 good luck indeed. wish I could experience it for the first time again

It’s kind of funny how hard they make it so he isn’t completely hatable from this though. They make the girl seventeen and trying to get him too do it as to not make him look like as terrible as if she was younger and he tried to make her do it first

I never thought penny "having a crush" on him was cute tbh

aurora I had a crush on my teacher when I was a kid. Nice man. Hope he's doing well. But he was NOT like bojack and would've never taken advantage of Teenage Me.

@@auroramacula I think it depends on how mature you are when you watch it. I was fresh out of highschool when I saw that episode, and I was swept away in the fantasy of it. And I remember feeling conflicted at the end. Looking back as an adukt, I can recognize how monumentally fucked up it was, but I knew what she felt in that moment.

@@alejandrorivas4585 yea but I'm 17 and I watched it when I was still 16. I was and still am a teenager and I never found it attractive or cute. I think that's just me though!

It's cute but it's weird because Bojack is always shown to be ugly and unattractive. He's not a dilf or a hot professor; he's an ugly, hairy man with eyebags and a rough voice. Older men can be attractive to young people but Bojack doesn't seem like one of those, which is why I don't understand Penny in all of this. Like, okay, she's a kid but she's a kid with bad taste. Haha.

yup he's old enough to be her uncle

But we’re not gonna mention Princess Caroline and the 12 year old?

Jayce McQueen No, because I think the Princess Carolyn/Vincent Adultman scenario was too absurd and cartoonish to really be comparable. The idea of someone dating 3 kids in a trenchcoat that they’ve honestly mistaken for an adult isn’t the kind of scenario that would genuinely play out in real life. No real csa situation has ever resulted from something like that. The difference with the Bojack/Penny scenario is that “middle-aged adult being sexually inappropriate with a teenager” is something that happens all the time in real life. It’s a real concern.

@@ssai90 Didnt need a paragraph response, a simple no was fine. A horse taking advantage of a girl is just as realistic as a woman dating 3 kids stacked ontop of each other if you wanna go by that logic. I’m not saying bojack isn’t guilty I’m just saying no ones talking about Princess Caroline lmao

Jayce McQueen was it even a 12 year old? We never know maybe he was an adult man and we were seeing it through BoJack eyes. Vincent did have 2 freckles on one cheek and the kid had 3 so 🤷‍♀️. Also the two are not comparable Josie Poulter phrased it perfectly

Think what's both ironic as it is fucked up too is if Charlotte hadn't intervened I think given the heat of the moment Bojack would have gotten Penny pregnant. And then there would have been a good chance the two of them would have gotten hitched as his parents did. And eventually, he would become just like his father because he most likely would have grown to resent Penny since all she ever was to him was a stand-in for Charlotte whom he only infantized that he loved based on his idea of what life would be like with her. Bojack is definitely one of those people that like and desperately craves the idea of being in love with someone, but the reality when and if it happens for him always leaves him yearning for more. That and I personally would argue that Wanda WAS Bojack's Charlotte. Because had he not pushed her away with his bitterness and loathing they could have had a pretty good life together I think.

Bojack’s dad said the same thing to both Beatrice and Henrietta. That’s what shook me to my core when i rewatched that scene.

@@whimsiwoof bojacks dad said that beatrice and henrietta reminded him of HIS mother

@@ASymbolicSymbol omg that adds a whole new level of fucked up. The continuity of Bojack is incredible and makes you notice new things even as you rewatch the show.

@@ASymbolicSymbol Lol Charlotte would not have let Bojack, a middle aged man, marry her teenage daughter due to a pregnancy. Also how can Wanda be “Bojack’s Charlotte”? Charlotte is Bojack’s Charlotte

Also, it's on the ADULT to make the right decisions, regardless of how hard the teenager pushes it.

Exactly! The thing is, yes, Penny shouldn't have pushed, but we have to remember she is a naive child, albeit an older one. It was Bojacks responsibility as the adult in this situation to shut things down, and possibly talk to Charlotte and prompt her to have a talk with Penny. Penny didn't know what she wanted here, and Bojack took advantage of that despite it being Penny who pushed it. The fact that he just gave up after saying no twice never fails to make me hate him in this episode. We know from scenes later in the show that Penny was left traumatized by this, and Bojack was almost completely in the wrong.

People tend to forget 17 is very young, you are still a kid at that age. What if she got pregnant? That would have destroyed her life, specially with someone who's age could be your own grandfather.

I think that Penny is part to blame but overall Bojack is definitely the most at fault

Facts plus she was still a kid in the end who thought she was really ready but I think she wasn’t

Definitely, the entire thing sort of represents BoJack’s stunted development. He’s really trying to recapture the past

I didn’t notice that part. I recently watched this episode and I was already disgusted. Then noticing this detail just makes me wanna throw up

Oh shit that's wayyyyy too dark for me to take in, but I have to, for education's sake

Haha you're gonna really like the first few sentences of this video 😉

Agreed even watching this great video and remembering how F - up the whole situation was made me feel nauseous

Yes, and I still I could understand why he would do such a bad thing. I could (to a point) relate to it, because it felt real. If wasn't too over the top, it just felt like real life.

@@Johnny2Cellos they really sound like a quote from RBW when he said it's the first time the audience sees Bojack as a character they maybe dont like

TimeN SpaceTraveler in your opinion what’s the other episodes

oh shit.

Yeah, the fact that he just gave up and basically said "yes" is unacceptable.

@@evieh6900 he didn’t even give in. He was entertaining the idea because her mom wouldn’t take him. He settled

He didn't say "yes", but it's even worse that he didn't actively say "no". He left the door open so Penny would try one more time, waiting for her to make the next move. Even when they're in bed together, she's the one taking of his clothes. By not saying "no", he's making Penny go after him. Maybe in Bojack's mind, he felt like that would give him deniability. To make himself feel better, he can tell himself that sleeping with Penny was something that happened *to* him, not something that he actively participated in.

This comment makes the original ordeal all the more grotesque

I know it’s so stressful I literally have only watched it once.

It's because there trying to show that's how life is it's a real gut punch

I was hoping for more episodes with charrlote and penny. But they left this unexplained.

Ty

Yeah it’s a slow burn and you knew it was coming from the jump but not prepared for it 😬

The glowstick balloons are also an extremely apt allusion to BoJack's pattern of desperately pursuing fleeting pleasures at a moment's notice without a thought or care. A few minutes of pretty floating lights, at the cost of scattering toxic trash somewhere downwind, potentially choking or polluting wildlife (who in this universe could well be people too). A few minutes of living out his fantasy of being with Charlotte, at the cost of scattering all sorts of damage into a young girl's entire future, potentially causing untold suffering to her and her family. After his initial rejections, BoJack seems to satisfy his cognitive dissonance by settling into a simplified view of the situation: Penny ceases to register as a vulnerable teenager and his old friend's daughter, allowing him to act as he would with any young fan hoping to score with him. It's very tough to see resembling an adult, aware of responsibilities and priorities, rejecting Penny, only to then regress and give in the next second. It's very telling that it's one of the glowstick balloons, a reminder of BoJack's deep-seated self-centeredness and thoughtlessness, and a callback to how these qualities are still so evident in him, that shifts Charlotte's mistrust into full gear.

Excellent analysis.

Great comparison between BoJack and Mr. Peanut Butter! I never noticed that similarity!

I actually take that music sting and play it in my videos whenever I mention New Mexico or Penny but 🤫 don’t tell anyone

I don’t really think it was that weird that he took Penny to prom, I think he was legitimately trying to help her out. Besides the plan was just to make her crush jealous. It wasn’t until Penny started developing a crush that I thought the episode got weird. Even then though, Bojack said no. Then the boat scene happened and I couldn’t do it anymore. I actually had to skip the rest of the episode.

@@micah4305 I think you're right that it wasn't Bojacks first intention to sleep with Penny when he arrived. I also think that this was something that developed in the two months he spend with them. But I think that he clearly had intentions when he talked Penny into going with him. If you rewatch the episode you see how uncomfortable Charlotte is whit this idea and clearly sees it as a red flag.

It was A LOT more wholesome in Inside Job. That's because Brett is literally the purist bean.

​@@micah4305 Brett is completely unable to do anything problematic

No this was a warning. And it was after SL Bojack's fate was sealed.

Coolkat butterfly affect

@@ninab.4540 im sorry but what the hell is SL?

A Journey Towards Happiness Sarah Lynn

He screwed up badly in New Mexico. One of the top fked up things he did.

this is an aside, but i'm really sorry that happened to you as a kid. you did not deserve it.

Sorry about what happened to you but yes I agree, they handled serious topics very well

I'm sorry about what happened to you, and yeah, you're right about how this show tackles dark subjects.

Right seeing how it caught up with him and the effects it had on penny years later especially with seeing him again and making it clear how awful it was for a grown adult to take advantage of a young kid. In a way it was cathartic to see BoJack get punished for his actions even if it was years later, it still happened and caused trauma even if he was “over it”. I’m so sorry that that happened to you and I’m glad this episode wasn’t a trigger and hopefully one that was cathartic for u too. Thank you for sharing 💖this show is more than a cartoon and can tackle real life issues much love to u

Indeed. I felt kinda called out by Penny. When I was a teen, I was full of that "don't worry, I'm technically legal" stuff, and when she said "you talk to me like I'm just a person instead of a dumb kid" early in the episode I was like uh-ohhhh. Like I suspect Bojack thought, or told himself, at first, that he was treating her like anybody else just to be respectful, to not talk down at her, etc. But then, through his insinuating into their life, and by leveraging all of his charm and charisma on her family, he ended up putting himself in a situation where he could take advantage of her. Pretty basic groomer shit, intentional or otherwise, it still happened. I'd always told myself, that I initiated everything, much like Penny seems to think in this episode. But now I have to wonder, how many people "just treated me like a person" with explicit intent? How many had no intent at all but just took the opportunity after I was pushy enough? Y'know? Like, I would be like that creepy guy online who mostly talks about video games and anime but every so often I'd be like "hey let me send you nudes" etc, until folks either blocked me or gave in. Except, of course, unlike that creepy guy stereotype, I was 15/16. Like you, I was pretty worried about how the writers were gonna handle it once I could see where it was going, which was basically as soon as the driving lesson scene, because everyone is written SO FUCKING WELL. But, like you, I was pleasantly surprised. Not just in this episode, but also the ways they kept going back to it later, that really impressed me. Penny not being able to throw away the prom photo even though it's bad memories... whoof. And, of course, naturally I still feel conflicted about my life stuff. Not least because of the idea that it was 110% all my idea. But because I.. don't hate all the memories? Not everybody actually sucked? Some in fact were overall pretty considerate people, even though I can see with hindsight that any relationship like that was a mistake and the cracks in the ground which eventually turned into chasms were in fact there from the start. But, it's hard for me to hate most of them still. There's like, two or three, whom I really do feel resentful and bitter over, just like I hate my abusive mother. But the rest? I dunno. It's easy to look back and go "why on earth would you let me talk you into that???" in my head, but I still can't really regard them as more than a really bad mistake. Which is weird, because, I'd never tell anybody else to consider those angles about their own trauma/sexual abuse experiences. But when evaluating my own memories, those feelings come up again and again. Probably because, again, for so long I felt as if it were entirely my decision. But also probably largely because my home life sucked way harder and I could feel that so much more clearly at the time. So, in the moment, those people made me feel seen and I felt like I had nice times, they were like... the only respite from that shitty home life. Restaurant meals and presents and cinema viewings. So I guess I just feel mostly weirdly bittersweet about a lot of them. Like Penny with her photograph, kinda. Even though I can recognise those as methods of ingratiating/grooming looking back, there's still nagging feelings about whether they were consciously deciding (except for the 3 I do hate, they were definitely consciously doing it) or just irresponsibly going with the flow. Which, of course, is still terrible. Yet I can't bring myself to just be like "fuck you [steve mcfakename]" about them. I often randomly go about my day and wonder how Penny is gonna do when she's in her mid-20s, or her 30s, how she's gonna develop, which kind of people she'll have relationships with. Some of the scenarios which Sarah Lynn tormented BoJack with on their super sleuth blackout montage... IDK, some of them could well be in the cards for Penny depending on how well things go for her. I know I'm certainly not over any of my stuff, over a decade on. And I _did_ find myself dating similar kinds of people in adulthood before, after a number of those adult relationships all blew up in similar ways in a short timespan, I decided dating wasn't a good idea for where my brain was at. And I've been doing a looot of introspection over COVID. Hopefully this is okay to say, I don't wanna like, hijack your thread? But what you said resonated a lot with me, unfortunate as it may be that it did in the first place. I haven't been journalling as much throughout COVID for whatever reason, so I guess the introspection and this episode and your own comment about your own experiences.. just got all the pieces to line up in my brain? Also hopefully I kept things vague and general enough to not, itself, be triggery.

Anytime the events of this episode were brought up, I thought back to that moment. I understood we were expected to assume Maddie survived and I felt like not bringing that up was the show's way of emphasizing how little concern BoJack had for Maddie's well-being once he made sure he'd be able to avoid consequences. When we saw Peter again and he started explaining his alcohol-related trauma, I recognized him when he mentioned a man living with a girl and her father, obviously referring to BoJack, Penny, and Kyle. I was excited to see him again and happy to hear the show finally say that Maddie made it, but it also filled me with a sense of dread because the moment I had waited so long for was playing a part in the downfall of BoJack's new beginning. Another thing I find weird is how we never saw or heard about Trip again after this episode to the point where I forgot his name until finished the series and started watching clips and analysis videos again. Whenever we saw Penny, I'd ask "How's your brother doing?" But that question was never answered. He suffered from Chuck Cunningham Syndrome, another sitcom trope, ironically/fittingly enough.

The show was like 'Wow, that was pretty good' to 'OH MY STARS, THE SHOW IS SO GOOD!!!!! AMAZING! HEARTBREAKING!!! JUST PLAIN AWESOME!

That’s what makes this show such a gem. The first half of the first season was kind of meh, and I only stuck with it because I was watching Netflix while waiting for someone (for a couple hours). It doesn’t really get going until season 2. It’s one of those shows where you recommend it to someone and say “okay, so it’s awesome but you have to watch it for several hours before there’s any real payoff”.

@@froggyplatypus the first half of the first season tries humor in the style of simpsons or family guy, then they magically find their own voice and it’s amazing after that.

the peaks of Bojack honestly top EVERY show I watched, it's a completely different beast than any of the other shows that get constantly mentioned like Breaking Bad, the Simpsons, whatever nothing has really came close to making me feel the same emotions and delivering a story that touches on so many real topics while still being fun to watch like it and I can't believe it doesn't get more attention and praise

That’s the episode “that went well”

It was good they brought up how shitty and fucked up it was when pete “repeat” and hollyhock had that conversation

He's rich and famous... Realistic imo

She's Sarah Lyn but she survived and called the paramedics on time

She wasn't a participant, she was the aggressor. It makes sense she might regret her actions later, but having panic attacks seems like a weird thing. Do they trigger whenever she tries to pin someone down and take their clothes off?

@@JD-wu5pf Children can't be the aggressor to an adult, I can't imagine what kind of mental gymnastics you have to use to think that. Bojack was the one responsible for what happened, he took advantage of a child that he (purposefully or not) groomed. And it makes sense penny would have ptsd from almost being raped

@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 She was 17, she wasn't a child. She wasn't raped. She initiated sex and then regretted it later.

@@JD-wu5pf how thw fuck is she an agressor? get help

@@JD-wu5pf My man why do you have to be so close minded like that? It's not about having sex, it's about an old man taking advantage of you

Wow. Change of plan.

I like to believe in an alternate universe he ended up with Charlotte. Of course, she was too good for him.. but she would have helped him grow.

@@Optimystik I don't think so. Bojack put Charlotte on a pedestal. Was he really in love with her?

@@ninab.4540 No.

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Every time I rewatch this season I secretly pray it'll turn out differently even as I watch things play out as they always have and always will. It's truly painful.

Ups, i got caught up in the moment. Sorry guys. Bojack does not say "Yes dear" Still its a great callback to Downer Ending in my opinion

That's why he haven't seen her for 30 years until the second season.

“Yes deer”

Read a book sometime - Isabelle

i feel like there's a lot of great gatsby references in the show

Natalie Sharp yeah I see a ton of gatsby and catcher in the rye references/similarites

@@alexverdana2435 In many respects "Bojack Horseman" feels like "The Great Gatsby" but for 21st Century television.

Or as Mad Men put it “It’s a place we ache to go again.”

It's amazing how close the writers kept the show's protagonist to completely irredeemable but manage to keep him from completely cross the line while still wanting (and often getting) someone to finally call him out on his shit.

@@ScorpionViper1001 it really is. the writing of bojack horseman is downright amazing, my goodness

The whole situation seemed unrealistic to me. If i was a parent, i would not let strangers around my kids alone. I don't get why Charlotte and Kyle trusted him right away and even let him take their daughter to prom. Even though Charlotte knew who Bojack was she hadn't seen him in like 20 years so how well did she even know him to begin with? I guess what i'm saying is there were so many red flags right away and the parents either didn't see them or ignored them. Sure Bojack was the adult and he should have done the right thing, but he was the predator in this situation and it was the parent's job to protect Penny from people like Bojack.

​@@zephyr3693 Well that's the thing, Charlotte obviously considered BoJack an old friend and not a stranger or someone she kinda may have sorta known 20 years earlier. She let him stay over for an extended time, practically integrate into the family, and take Penny to the prom. Nothing in the episode makes sense if Charlotte doesn't have solid (if misplaced) trust and fondness for BoJack up until the situation forces her to drop that. People don't have bad apple radars, as much as we would like to think we do. That's why the majority of abuse happens with people you know. Life thrusts all these relationships and connections on us from day one, and various forces from sheer instinct to social pressure and religious doctrines coax us to obedience, conformity, and trust as if they are owed by default, not something to be earned. Questioning and doubt are made to be hurtful and wrong, not necessary tools of intelligent thought, as if someone's feelings are more important than our ability to protect ourselves. Abuse thrives in such atmospheres. From a Nordic viewpoint, US social culture seems especially prone to expecting openness and trust very quickly and totally. Coming back to Charlotte, BoJack came to her specifically because she represented the "good old days", a rewind to a nostalgic, better past, a clean slate. Being with her, BoJack could play pretend like L.A. didn't actually happen, like he didn't turn out to be an awful person who did awful things and blamed everything but himself. That's the name of the episode, even, L.A. standing for not just the location but the entire section of BoJack's life he's spent there. All this wouldn't be possible if Charlotte was up to date with who BoJack became after they parted ways. They were close then, but haven't had much contact at all in twenty years, so BoJack's image retains the qualities Charlotte's naîve and superficial and not-very-self-aware young adult mind put to memory. She focused on her own life elsewhere, and doesn't seem like the type to stay up to day with celebrity gossip. When BoJack turns up on her door, is it really a wonder that she's off guard and almost acts like it was the same young horseguy from 20 years ago stepping out of a time machine? I'm not saying she did the right thing, just that I understand why she did what she did.

And he’s only close to Penny because he has power over her (naive, sad about her friend, desperate for male approval/interest). Creepier the more you think about it...

@@peccantis I guess that makes sense i just thought it was weird they just opened the door wide open for this dude that Charlotte hadn't seen in 20 years and who Kyle didn't know at all. I don't criticize them too much though it's just another sad reminder of how careful and suspicious parents have to be now days, you can't trust anyone around your kids, not strangers and sometimes not even friends

@@zephyr3693 the episode felt very "michael jackson" when i first watched it if you get what i mean, the surface level of wholesomeness to bojacks relationship with the family it seems very innocent if you dont think about it but theres an inherent creepiness to the whole thing once you turn your brain back on

I grab that music sting and play it whenever I bring it up in my BoJack videos too haha, love that stuff

Your profile picture is giving me anxiety

Lmao I also got the Reese's commercial

I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to watch those again lol

Stuff that loser's mouth with Reese's Pieces dumbass!

catdog it’s really hard. I think that’s was art can do make us learn about ourselves and help us grow.

But Bojack surely wasn't the sexual predator he was portrayed as. He made many mistakes and did disgusting things, but he wasn't a sexual predator.

@@johgu92 I mean wasn't he? At the end of the day, he was very willing to have sex with an underage girl if he wasn't interrupted by the mother.

@@edabakb That doesn't make him a sexual predator, while I certainly don't think that it was ok, it still was her idea to have sex, he shouldn't have given in but still it isn't like he did much to get her into bed.

@@johgu92 true, but he DOES have a weird relationship with young girls doesn't he? It's not exactly grooming, but he even had sex with SL whom he watched growing up from the age of like 10 or something. SL was an adult when it happened, yes, but it's still icky. I understand maybe the word "predator" doesn't quite apply here, I don't know how else to explain what I mean. English isn't my 1st language, I'm sorry 🙈

He somehow had the right and wrong idea at the same time. The right idea was wanting to apologize for his gross actions, but it was the wrong idea that he'd think she'd be completely ruined. He has a hard time with accepting that people move on no matter if he was involved or not.

​@@choco_L8 He also went about it the wrong way. Sure, he wasn't correct that she was completely DESTROYED by what he did, but she WAS still traumatized and apparently had panic attacks for some time after her experience. Him popping back into her life for the selfish goal of wanting to make HIMSELF feel better was just so irresponsible... Story of his life, right?

I've been thinking about doing a complete timeline video, I've put a lot of work into compiling the events chronologically. It's a huge project though, but it's being considered!

Omg please that needs to happen

That would be awesome! I certainly lost track lol

Johnny 2 Cellos dude that would be sick

Yeah his actions here are 100% intentional. Gina and Sarah Lynne were more violent but there was some loss of control that gives Bojack a bit of an out. But with Penny, he wasn't high out of his mind. He wasn't in crisis trying to cover his ass. He chose to cling to his fantasy about being with Charlotte after she rejected him, and he used her 17yo daughter as a surrogate.

Sorry for replying to a 2 year old comment, but I’d still say Sarah was the worst thing he’d done by a longshot with this most likely placing second. 17 minutes of actively letting someone die beats out impulsivity any day.

​@@thechosenone5644 Honestly, I'd say they're equally bad. He hurt 2 different children because of his selfishness. 1 of them lived to regret it, the other didn't.

Two of my all-time favorite episodes from the show. I recently rewatched Time's Arrow and broke down sobbing at the end.

I would like one about free churro and good while it lasted

Awesome analysis with the green light! I also saw a huge connection with The Great Gatsby, but I never realized how much the green light was shown in this as well.

Wow I totally connect to this

Charlotte is awesome! One of the best people in the show for sure. I think is great to have role models that come from works of fiction :) they have something we can aspire to be and learn from that real life people don't.

Doctor Speedweed Yeah, I feel like there are many things about me that are already akin to her but still, I am still striving to be someone like her.

Post Video Comment: Another thing that I realized that the episode taught me is about myself. Through Charlotte’s words about it isn’t about where you are but who you are, I realized, holy shit I hate myself because I make myself hate myself, not that because my environment makes me. Her words was a gateway that made me look inwards into myself, and I can never be thankful enough for that to happen. I guess that might be the reason why I like Charlotte so much, because she (not really her but the show itself) made me look inwards into me.

@@yellow_jacket3260 you seem like a very smart and sensible young person! This coming from an ex youth worker btw. Keep it up with the introspection (and maybe some therapy? That is the one thing that has helped me the most!) and you'll achieve any goal. Stay strong!

This is the first time I've seen this interpretation on Wanda's line and I completely love and agree with it.

i binged it and i think my life is ruined

​@@Eli-mn5cq same

Probably my favorite episode of season 2. Escape From LA is too much. I always skip it upon rewatching.

Another episode which whilst slightly less deep than your suggestions is stupid piece of shit as I always found it to be extremely powerful especially the final scene where Bojak lies to hollyhock to reassure her

Jacob Clements stupid piece of shit deals with depression

You should give "that's too much, man" more credit. It more deals with the tragedy/child of a child star

*death of a child star

@@mysouptoocold1656 Princess Carolyn- became a parent. Mr. Peanutbutter- He wrote his autobiography himself. Todd Chavez-has established relationships with parents. Diane Nguyen- found her happiness with a person who already has children. coincidence or design?

Wait till you watch "The Showstopper."

@@chadkennedy7855 Forgot to add that happened three years ago and I finished the series

@@shockingheaven Hey, I watched that season 5 episode multiple times, I saw what happened!

No they weren't. Diane got sick in Chicago. The knly thing sifferent about Texas is she stayed medicated after Chicago. Diane is the "problem", in her life, not L.A- or Chauvenism- or Vapid Society.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

@@Johnny2Cellos Be sure to break down "The Showstopper" soon.

Better compared to when? >_> this country has always been trash to minorities

Stop The Presses is criminally underrated.

That too was my favorite season 2 episode as well as season 5 episode "The Showstopper." How much darker episode get?