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A look at the tragic consequences of underestimating the enemy. During the Second World War, the British commander of Singapore believed it to be an impregnable fortress until a numerically inferior Japanese Army overran it. Similarly, 12 years on, the French lost the mountain garrison at Dien Bien Phu after failing to anticipate the resourcefulness of General Giap and his Vietmanese peasant army.
We have long saluted military genius and bravery. But the other side of the coin is military incompetence - a largely preventable, tragically expensive, yet totally absorbing aspect of human behaviour.
From the Crusades to Vietnam, history is littered with examples of stupidity, obduracy, brutality and sheer breath-taking incompetence. Lack of communication, technological failure and a misplaced sense of superiority have led to the deaths of thousands of ordinary soldiers, let down by their masters and betrayed by arrogance. Using a combination of history, human interest and archive footage underpinned by powerful story-telling, Great Military Blunders charts man’s folly and cruelty in a series of stunning debacles, spanning almost a thousand years of conflict.
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@grahamparkin5568
@grahamparkin5568 Год назад
"I can't understand it, I left a thousand men there” Lord Chelmsford, on hearing that Isandlwana camp had been overrun. However they the British were strung out and disorganised when the battle started, and outnumbered 10-1.
@markuhler2664
@markuhler2664 2 года назад
General Giap showed one of the rarest of talents in a commander: the ability to change his plan in the face of changing events.
@sifu8056
@sifu8056 2 года назад
That is a trait of a smart warrior, just like a master martial artist should understands how to master counter attacks.
@markward3981
@markward3981 2 года назад
He was a master mind. His tactics are studied in U.S Military academies to this day.
@lurchlocker89
@lurchlocker89 2 года назад
No wonder they called him Red Napoleon or Napoleon of the Orient
@toothpick5932
@toothpick5932 Год назад
He was a history teacher
@markdavids2511
@markdavids2511 Год назад
Same with Zhukov in ww2, another military genius.
@user-gl9iz1bp1r
@user-gl9iz1bp1r 3 года назад
“We learn from history that we do not learn from history.” - Georg Hegel Thank you for a great documentary.
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 года назад
Somehow I doubt that Hegel actually meant what we think it means. He didn’t mean it like we mean which is an indication that we want to avoid mistakes from being made. I think Hegel was more making an observation of how history is since he promoted a dialectic view of history.
@michaelcoates703
@michaelcoates703 3 года назад
Know the enemy and know your self.
@colin2709
@colin2709 3 года назад
I like this quote, and I think the problem is even more complicated than that since history is a construct, it's not the past incarnate it's a constructed version of the past.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 3 года назад
@@StopFear k
@pleiadecca
@pleiadecca 3 года назад
Too lazy (and self-absorbed) to read it. Too dishonest to record it ... honestly. Ouroboros.
@ivengideonv6428
@ivengideonv6428 Год назад
I worked for a man , that was a captian in marines in ww2 he was put in charge of Japanese pows , he said their colonel came to me and saluted me , I said no you out rank me I salute you , he said that colon took charge of his men and never gave me any trouble .. respect
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
"Mistakes were made," said the incompetent commander after coming home without his army.
@carloreneeventura8714
@carloreneeventura8714 3 года назад
Better that the commander not come home at all
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
@@carloreneeventura8714 COMMANDER, YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND WANTING BEFORE THIS TRIBUNAL OF HIS HOLY MAJESTY THE GOD EMPERORS COMMISSARIAT. THE SENTENCE FOR SUCH TREASON AND INCOMPETENCE IS SERVICE WITH THE PENAL LEGON UNTIL YOU HAVE PAID FOR YOUR CRIMES IN GLORIOUS DEATH. AVE IMPERATOR! GUARDS, TAKE HIM!
@cedarwest37
@cedarwest37 3 года назад
Great
@deerflyguy1907
@deerflyguy1907 2 года назад
@@carloreneeventura8714 Japanese commanders didn't come home! They fought to the death and/or just before they lost a battle, they committed suicide rather than surrender.
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 2 года назад
What I'm surprised isn't mentioned in the first part of this documentary is that just one year after Isandlwana, the British Army made the same mistake - that of seriously underestimating the enemy - in the neighbouring Transvaal Republic, in the First Anglo-Boer War. From the column which entered at Bronkhorstspruit and was wiped out to the final defeat at Majuba Hill after which Britain capitulated, this war was a series of defeats. The enemy were considered a ragtag bunch of farmers and indeed they didn't even have a standing army, yet defeated the most powerful Empire at the time.
@Shack01
@Shack01 2 года назад
Black week, pity the Boer were forced to give up because the british were busy with a genocide on the Boer woman and children.
@MothaLuva
@MothaLuva 2 года назад
Now, isn’t that nice. I just love it when the Brits get they imperialistic arses waxed….
@seanbrown9048
@seanbrown9048 2 года назад
@@MothaLuva and yet they still maintain a parasitic royal family, unlike France and Russia, which did away with theirs.
@youtubehastakenovermylife4979
@youtubehastakenovermylife4979 2 года назад
Fascinating.
@extremetea
@extremetea 2 года назад
Every day I'm surprised when i wake up and Jesus isn't singing Mariah Carey songs to me anymore.
@darkqwartzsytal834
@darkqwartzsytal834 3 года назад
"The lion or tiger may be more powerful, but a wolf does not perform in a circus."
@Ahoooooooo
@Ahoooooooo 3 года назад
Never heard this before. Very meaningful.
@darkqwartzsytal834
@darkqwartzsytal834 3 года назад
@@Ahoooooooo its a quote i found whilst i played a certain video game :)
@nogod7184
@nogod7184 3 года назад
First time I heard this. Very profound. And very true.
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 3 года назад
Wolves were the first animals to be tamed by humans. What do you think dogs came from 🤣
@chairde
@chairde 2 года назад
Good statement. Who wrote that?
@janalock6267
@janalock6267 2 года назад
So glad for the commentary. The Zulus won. They had strategy, knowlegde of the terrain and the manpower to overwhelm the British. Granted the commander was an arrogant idiot, but the Zulu generals do not get enough credit for this victory. It's less humiliating to say we lost the battle instead stating facts: the "savages" with spears trounced the men with guns.
@sgtmayhem7567
@sgtmayhem7567 2 года назад
Your pandering, it’s condescending to think the ancestors of these people don’t understand what actually happened at this battle. The Zulu warriors deserve to be praised for their bravery more than anything else. They used a couple clever tactics, but without the criminal incompetence and abject stupidity of the British commanders and a 15:1 numerical superiority, the Zulus would have been slaughtered. Later that year at the Battle of Rorke’s Drift the Zulus outnumbered the British 4500+ to 139 (33:1) and had a 1000 rifles and plenty of ammunition they’d captured at Isandiwana. The British won the battle with 17 killed and 15 wounded. The Zulus used the same Horns of the Buffalo tactic they did at Isandiwana, but lost thousands of men.
@aaronsmith6603
@aaronsmith6603 2 года назад
I love the zulu war. It also showed the English aren't who held the empire together. In a way at least. It was 100 Welsh and 500 slaves that stood against them and won at Rhorkes drift..I think two days after this battle. Michael Caine's first movie was a awful rendition of it. But still a good flick.
@extremetea
@extremetea 2 года назад
The Zulus had one thing you're forgetting all forgetting about. They had King Leopold and his example of what anything short of defeating colonials in detail would keep them from enslaving your whole populace. Quite a motivator imo
@brightlight7217
@brightlight7217 2 года назад
@@sgtmayhem7567 That is British killing people in their own lands. Genocide.
@BadDoingsMangement
@BadDoingsMangement 2 года назад
@@brightlight7217 exactly and have the nerve to call the Zulus the enemy and act like the British were fighting some just war.... typical white people, freedom is only important when it is theirs.
@mrsoshadabaadman
@mrsoshadabaadman 2 года назад
Speaking as a Zulu person I think we need to remember this and the Afrikaans people's tenacity in the face of the most powerful empire in modern history.
@garyrunnalls7714
@garyrunnalls7714 Год назад
So true. Much respect for the Zulu and certainly one of the bravest of all warriors.
@bhall4996
@bhall4996 Год назад
Brave warriors without a doubt
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 Год назад
Looking back on history when one thinks clearly about it there was absolutely no reason for the British to be in Zululand.
@jeffbybee5207
@jeffbybee5207 Год назад
@@cameronmccreary4758 was the purpose to landlocked the boors? Or was there mineral resources in Zulu land?
@waltershumate5777
@waltershumate5777 Год назад
Not only that but you were using Iron Age weapons against modern firearms! Today In modern Western countries, if we were asked to name an African warrior tribe, Zulu would be the first name on that list. You deserve your pride!
@CaspianWint-dn6nj
@CaspianWint-dn6nj 4 года назад
The electro-mechanical rubber puppet of Percival is going to give me nightmares for the rest of my life.
@gcrav
@gcrav 4 года назад
A very fitting way for the chap to be remembered!
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 4 года назад
It was unrealistic too. The puppet was a much better leader.
@david9783
@david9783 4 года назад
It is REAL scary to see him blink...
@alexhess1163
@alexhess1163 3 года назад
You know the situation is dire when they have to cancel the dance parties at the Raffles Hotel.
@GiangNg320
@GiangNg320 3 года назад
I wanted to point out at Dien Bien Phu, the French have the reason for their confidence. It was the battle of Na San a year earlier when Giap’s army attack a French stronghold and suffer over 4000 losses, the French in that battle was able to be supply by air and eventually evacuated by the air route. They think they could remake Na San and bloodied Vietnamese forces. But Giap learned from Na San as well. He lost his trust in his Chinese advisors after he applied their tactic in Na San. He choose to do his own way by carefully prepare first with deploying his artillery division. He even postponed the attack because he got intel that the French know the attack date. During the opening days of the battle, Vietnamese forces attack rapidly. We enjoy success but suffer heavy losses as well. Thats why Giap abandoned a quick victory and use trench warfare instead. My Grandfather was there at Dien Bien Phu, he was one of many truck driver that maintains Vietnamese supply line. It was feat by itself, my grandfather said. His truck could not travel well due to bad road so they have a depot where he would unload his cargo and hundreds of cargo hauling bicycles will bring supplies to the front line. The depot was the target for French to find and destroy. My grandfather also have several close call when French scout planes fry above his head, trying to find the depot exact location.
@michaelscott5653
@michaelscott5653 3 года назад
Thank you sir. Yours is best comment here! I salute your grandfather for his courage and strength!
@jackobtthoronn5388
@jackobtthoronn5388 3 года назад
God bless you and the heroic people of Vietnam...🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@ElKoubi1975
@ElKoubi1975 3 года назад
We leants from your experience in our war of independence from France. Your people were a great inspiration for our people to liberate our country, Algeria. My regards to the brave people of Vietnam
@maximusdecimusmeridius5500
@maximusdecimusmeridius5500 3 года назад
@@jackobtthoronn5388 Its a great comment and obviously this kid knows how important history is.but they're still communists.Maybe after your under the jackboot of communist tyranny you won't be so giving in God's blessings??Because that communist boot is coming down very soon. It's already begun.
@Swimfinz
@Swimfinz 3 года назад
Giang Nguyen: great response. The 105mm howitzers were American equipment left behind from the Korean War. General Giap mounted these howitzers on the far sides of the mountains away from Dien Bien Phu. When attacking, they were rolled out on railroad rail and launched their salvos over the mountains. Then tucked inside the mountains for safety. Western air power could never locate and destroy these howitzers.
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 4 года назад
Commander said to his troops, "remember the enemy don't know our plan, they may not do as we expect".
@adambuccaschie9297
@adambuccaschie9297 3 года назад
That's another way to put it in?
@sinistersisterh-e4663
@sinistersisterh-e4663 2 года назад
Yes you really should send them all the informations about your tactics..... you know, just to tell them, when to give up, just as mentioned in the script. 🤔
@felicitybywater8012
@felicitybywater8012 2 года назад
T @fly bobbie, truer words were never spoke.
@dangreene9846
@dangreene9846 2 года назад
Everyone has a plan until they get hit.
@michaelwier1222
@michaelwier1222 3 года назад
"Never underestimate your enemy, Never overestimate yourself."
@cedarwest37
@cedarwest37 3 года назад
Exactly
@michaelwier1222
@michaelwier1222 3 года назад
@Sky Man You're taking the quote out of context. Watch the video. War and bank accounts are NOT the same thing.
@user-dr1bv7gg1r
@user-dr1bv7gg1r 2 года назад
1946 the British and Japanese defeated the commies to be replaced by the French with the help of us government
@toothpick5932
@toothpick5932 2 года назад
@@michaelwier1222 I did not get what sky man said either
@darcychu9652
@darcychu9652 2 года назад
But British Imperialist just could not help showing their "racial arrogance"!
@Exotic3000
@Exotic3000 2 года назад
These military mistakes are something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately. I’m 56 and understand how fortunate I am to have never had to fight in a war. But I feel bad for the soldiers on both sides who volunteer and then have to tolerate a lieutenant who is a complete idiot.
@keithlunde9625
@keithlunde9625 2 года назад
Well said
@wpierce34004ever
@wpierce34004ever 2 года назад
@@keithlunde9625 Let's not limit it to junior officers...
@ozymandiasnullifidian5590
@ozymandiasnullifidian5590 2 года назад
I was in a war, or some would say 2 wars, and in a war, the worst thing is not incompetent lieutenant or sergeant, but I agree that those things also can be very annoying. But, there are different officers, most are capable, mediocre, some are extremely good, and some are idiots.
@sgtmayhem7567
@sgtmayhem7567 2 года назад
I’m a former Airborne Infantryman and fought in 2 conflicts. The Officers I served with were all extremely competent. No modern western army appoints leaders based solely on their social status any longer. Your opinion is unfair to the people who’ve risked their lives to guarantee your freedom.
@ozymandiasnullifidian5590
@ozymandiasnullifidian5590 2 года назад
@@sgtmayhem7567 If you are from the USA, your officers maybe risk their lives, but not to guarantee anyone's freedom.
@bigboyblue7181
@bigboyblue7181 3 года назад
When I went to Somalia in 92/93 it was the same briefings. How we were a Superior fighting force with advanced communications and training.
@chrisb1906
@chrisb1906 3 года назад
That was Blackhawk Down?
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 3 года назад
And that didn’t go so well either.
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
"The British are lions led by donkeys" is a remark stated by General Wilhelm Ludendorff, but I certainly sometimes believe that that remark is correct for the entire mankind.
@beastz1321
@beastz1321 3 года назад
Donkeys are strong and versatile animals. They can haul people and cargo great distances. I like donkeys
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
@@beastz1321 You're absolutely right, real donkeys are great. What I said was just the expression we use, you know. Animals in general is fantastic creatures. All life is created by God and under His protection. Cruelty against animals is therefor a sin and a sign of idiotism. Uncivilised people are the problem. The ones who are involved in geopolitics and participate in the quest for world domination. They are the human donkeys and we should not believe in them. Look at Syria and Yemen. Children are dying under sanctions while the hypocrites talk about "human rights" and "evil regimes." They are liers and cheaters, but history will judge them. All the best...
@beastz1321
@beastz1321 3 года назад
@@jant.carlsson5061 it was a joke lol
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
@@beastz1321 You're still right.
@beastz1321
@beastz1321 3 года назад
@@jant.carlsson5061 thanks brother
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems 5 лет назад
"This was chasing the burglars out". Perfect !
@tiongloo5310
@tiongloo5310 3 года назад
I like this phrase. " We were the unwilling, led by the unqualified, fighting the impossible for the ungrateful". This sums up the morale of the defeated soldiers.
@johnrobinson4445
@johnrobinson4445 3 года назад
...and Brexit.
@magnusm4
@magnusm4 3 года назад
That's soldiers in ww1 in a nutshell. They fought in conditions anybody would run from, led by men miles away with no experience or intelligence who had never ever seen the front or understood anything with simple forward charges into machine gun fire blindly, facing a devastating enemy on the orders of people who forced them to war for no reason.
@felipewerner6670
@felipewerner6670 3 года назад
thats humanity in a nutshell.
@lawrencemay8671
@lawrencemay8671 3 года назад
I think that comes from Socrates
@lawrencemay8671
@lawrencemay8671 3 года назад
@@fvefve12 he said something like that when he was in Greek Army.
@olliephelan
@olliephelan 2 года назад
At Crossbarry Ireland , , Percival with 1,200 men failed to encircle a 155 man I R A flying column. From 7 directions. 154 men broke the encirclement inflicting 40 British dead. And escaped. That was 1919. I think maybe that shook his confidence
@lurchlocker89
@lurchlocker89 2 года назад
And here's to the boys of Kilmichael who feared not the might of the foe... here's to the boys of Kilmichael who laid all the Black and Tans low...
@pauldouglas4158
@pauldouglas4158 5 лет назад
The 1st Cavalry Division quickly learned that the PAVN were one of the best guerrilla armies in history. We were out of our element concerning the weather and the terrain. Plus Westmoreland wanted large unit operations doing find, fix and destroy and hammer and anvil tactics. Everyone has a plan that will not work
@gregwallace9314
@gregwallace9314 2 года назад
Westmoreland forgot that you cannot destroy water with a Hammer and Anvil Operation. The water splashes and moves away from the hammer as it strikes . The effect is minimal damage and at the expense of a maximum use of assets. The Vietnamese simply melted away in the jungle in small groups to turn and strikes your flanks.... only to fight and run again.
@HowardLuken
@HowardLuken 2 года назад
Westmoreland and McNamara were idiots. Arrogant and shortsighted. Every American president since then has been an idiot. If Truman had let general MacArthur nuke the Chinese on their own soil we wouldn't be facing them now. Same with the Russians if we had followed general Patton's advice this last century would have been one of prosperity and freedom for the entire world not for just the west.
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 Год назад
Westmoreland was far out of his area of expertise and worked for 2 other guys who were out of their areas of expertise. It was a perfect trifecta of incompetence.
@glendooer6211
@glendooer6211 4 года назад
Many a fine military career has been ruined by a war.
@capt.rmwhitfield3341
@capt.rmwhitfield3341 4 года назад
Excellent comment! Well done Owen.
@justsayin3228
@justsayin3228 4 года назад
That's a good quote
@tillyt4054
@tillyt4054 4 года назад
GLEN Dooer Well said !
@spacecase7566
@spacecase7566 4 года назад
Heh. I like this!
@clovisra
@clovisra 3 года назад
True. But military careers in many countries are never ruined because they never go against enemy invaders Their military battles are always successeful because they always go against their own compatriots, against the ones who pays their salary. Like the ones in Latin America and some other world countries
@LaplacianFourier
@LaplacianFourier 3 года назад
When the enemy has French cheese, you know it's over.
@fodicky4
@fodicky4 3 года назад
Does that mean that the french are the enemy?... LOL
@caliorchid2
@caliorchid2 3 года назад
LOL, good one!
@zcomme
@zcomme 3 года назад
when ennemy has brits general commander, you know you're gonna be victorious
@jimm6095
@jimm6095 3 года назад
Vietnamese also captured the Frenchmen's brandy!
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 3 года назад
@@jimm6095 God damn the French definitely lost that one!😳
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 3 года назад
"Good soldiers are defined by what they can endure, not by what they can inflict." -Gregory David Roberts.
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 3 года назад
Good one
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 года назад
@@alanaadams7440 Do you actually believe that is 100% true?
@dcmhsotaeh
@dcmhsotaeh 3 года назад
The most recent war had this theme .Indian Volunteer Army versus Communist Chinese Conscripted PLA Army in Ladakh 2021
@gregorygrieger5951
@gregorygrieger5951 3 года назад
Youngest in Vietnam ,,,15 years old Johnson useless evil president it was his war but can't imagine seconds off landing craft on D Day thousands were heros for a second then died. A ND now we have a government who don't honor anything of this great country but themselves medic ,,,,1970 hmm love this country and Jesus God Bless
@gein2287
@gein2287 3 года назад
The first problem is why tf ru killing other people on their land?
@chaipod
@chaipod 3 года назад
The Art Of War.....Do not underestimate your enemy.
@joelgarcia5770
@joelgarcia5770 3 года назад
War is based on deception
@deerflyguy1907
@deerflyguy1907 2 года назад
Likewise, if you're going to fight a war, fight to win, or don't fight at all!
@janethagaman1998
@janethagaman1998 2 года назад
@@joelgarcia5770 AMEN! No one is ever a winner in war times.
@jantyszka1036
@jantyszka1036 3 года назад
As one of my (UK) university tutors once said in a lecture: "Military incompetence is something of a tradition in this country".
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 3 года назад
True, and it is all because of their antiquated class system. Even now, young men of “noble” birth are given entry to the elite schools and end up commanding “low-born” troops, among whom are far more intelligent and talented soldiers who will never get the opportunity to command.
@cristop5
@cristop5 3 года назад
Considering Britain created the greatest empire the world has ever seen, I think we can conclude their overall competence must have outweighed incompetence.
@s.sestric9929
@s.sestric9929 3 года назад
@@cristop5 Their Navy was competent, their army not so much. Conquering and oppressing natives is one thing, but whenever they faced a professional army they had their arses handed to them.
@tkk3852
@tkk3852 3 года назад
@@s.sestric9929 I agree. The British army was only good at harrasing civilians but when it came to fighting against a professional army they lost badly. They even lost against American revolutionary militia/rebels prior to America becoming an independent country.
@cristop5
@cristop5 3 года назад
@@s.sestric9929 Read up on these for starters: Blenheim (1704), Quebec (1775), Salamanca (1812), Waterloo (1815), Inkerman (1854), Egypt & Libya (1941), El Alamein (1942), Kohima (1944), Mandalay (1945), Goose Green (1982). There are many more.
@vampolascott36
@vampolascott36 3 года назад
I finally understand why these battles were lost. Thank you! This is a great resource.
@KjetilSimonsen
@KjetilSimonsen 2 года назад
This is also what is happening in England and in several other countries today. They do not see that the enemy is among them.
@alexm566
@alexm566 2 года назад
so true, in the US too
@mthokozisiblessingkhulu4950
@mthokozisiblessingkhulu4950 3 года назад
As the Zulu nation, we are proud of the achievements of our ancestors in Isandlwana.
@stevengoodloe3893
@stevengoodloe3893 3 года назад
As well you should. A great people, indeed.
@PNZV
@PNZV 3 года назад
Wonder what you think about the outcome of the entire conflict? Ulundi and the capture of Cateshwayo comes to mind. I guess if anything was accomplished at Isandlwana it was a wake up call to the British to get serious. What do you think?
@donkeyslayer4661
@donkeyslayer4661 3 года назад
You won the battle, but lost the war.
@torbendinesen7121
@torbendinesen7121 2 года назад
And what did that lead to? What are you proud of Today 😂,....
@lynnec3372
@lynnec3372 2 года назад
We are proud of you all here in the USA as well💪🏾
@JeffLeChefski
@JeffLeChefski 3 года назад
My brother was an RCAF officer flying supply missions in the first Gulf War. They were told it was going to be a terrible fight, that the enemy was strong and they should expect 20% casualties in their unit (a transport unit operating primarily in the rear). They had zero casualties. Perhaps this is a better way to prepare your forces for a conflict.
@wecx2375
@wecx2375 3 года назад
If you would have told me that I'd have went AWOL haha.
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 2 года назад
Yes.
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 2 года назад
Certainly, always hope the best, but prepare for the worst. But this was also part of the narrative that was spun at that time about how dangerous the Iraqi military was (mass media spoke about the third strongest military of the world, which was even back then ludicrous). Especially the US-leadership must've had a pretty good picture about the real strength, since they supported Saddam in the war against Iran for years. Which was the actual First Gulf War btw. ;°)
@JeffLeChefski
@JeffLeChefski 2 года назад
@@wolfgangkranek376 Exactly.
@riazhassan6570
@riazhassan6570 2 года назад
I was working in the region at that time. The total number of casualties on the coalition side was tiny
@benlake710
@benlake710 3 года назад
Interesting episode. I think you can further refine "underestimating" the opponent by at least 2 key events in each of these battles. First, the enemy used a tactic that was largely unexpected. In these battles, the vanquished (the British and French units in these examples) expected their opponent to deploy and fight a certain way, and when that did not occur, their initial strategy for battle quickly became a liability. At Dien Bien Phu, the Viet Minh went through extraordinary efforts to bring artillery, equipment and troops up to the mountains to encircle the French. No one at the time thought such a colossal effort was likely or even possible, but the Vietnamese did it. Then the VM fought ferociously, which is the next point. Secondly, in each of the battles, the opposing forces all showed a particularly aggressive and dedicated attack. They pushed and kept pushing the fight despite significant casualties on their side. That level of perseverance was also surely a factor in their success, though they were usually costly victories. It's more of an editorial as to how much arrogance and incompetence plays a role, though I imagine it did to some degree. Each of the defeated militaries had other victories both before and after these battles. Anyone having been in the military should always know that the enemy "has a vote" too, and they are doing their best to work around their opponent's defenses. And always, there are simple mistakes, errors, and a degree of chance at play. In hindsight the tactics might be judged by how it turned out: you lose, it's arrogance, but if you win it's boldness and audacity.
@PeaceLoveHonor
@PeaceLoveHonor 2 года назад
Agreed. In some of the examples it's more the ingenuity of the winning side and not so much incompetence on the losing side (though arrogance on their part could arguably be considered a kind of incompetence. )
@timpatrick2109
@timpatrick2109 Год назад
It’s like that saying goes, “Victory has a thousand fathers but defeat is a orphan.”
@InGratiaDei
@InGratiaDei 3 года назад
This reminds me of Benjamin Franklin's warning to General Braddock about the Indians who were "dexterous" at "laying ambuscades." Braddock made some disparaging comparisons between the "raw colonial militia" and his majesty's regular troops, and later got killed in a French and Indian ambush, the same one George Washington miraculously survived.
@emr6153
@emr6153 2 года назад
And we STILL don't know exactly where his body is buried!
@sgtmayhem7567
@sgtmayhem7567 2 года назад
That is one of the most insightful comments I’ve ever read. Even your screen name is subtle and intelligent. I’m grateful to God too.
@InGratiaDei
@InGratiaDei 2 года назад
@@sgtmayhem7567 Thanks for the kind remarks, and yes, we're all in need of God's grace.
@neocav1
@neocav1 7 лет назад
Thanks. These are awesome.
@johncollins5591
@johncollins5591 3 года назад
"No Battle Plan Survives Contact With the Enemy" Moltke
@lurking0death
@lurking0death 3 года назад
"Everybody's got a plan until they get hit."___Mike Tyson
@blacksquirrel4008
@blacksquirrel4008 3 года назад
Dwight Eisenhower said, "planning is everything, the plan is nothing."
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
That's right. The enemy is always playing dirty and never keep to the rules.
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
@@o.x.p Just like the generals behind the failures then. They don't survive their own execution, either.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Except that these are examples of not having a plan. What plan did the British have at Isandlwana?
@rogersledz6793
@rogersledz6793 2 года назад
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@joethegeographer
@joethegeographer 3 года назад
Very well done, thanks for sharing!
@lezzman
@lezzman 6 лет назад
22:45 When that waxwork of Lt. Gen. Percival turned its head, I nearly crapped in my pants!
@nashvilleslim
@nashvilleslim 3 года назад
Thanks for the heads up!
@JamieTransNyc
@JamieTransNyc 3 года назад
Do you know what software they used to simulate the movements of Percival and Simpson?
@canusakommando9692
@canusakommando9692 5 лет назад
General Giap is one of the top 5 Generals of all time. His understanding of PR really did the Americans in. A brilliant Guerilla campaign allowed his small forces to last decades and made any invader pay in so much blood they were sent packing! Especially the U.S.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 лет назад
Giap was out of it by 1972 being blamed for the failure of the Easter Offensive of that year. Le Duan was the guy who orchestrated military campaigns after that.
@tkk3852
@tkk3852 3 года назад
@@stewartw.9151 But to me General Giap is the greatest military general of the 20th century just based on what he was able to achieve given his meagre resources and lack of enough modern equipment. His enemies always had technological superiority over him.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 3 года назад
@@tkk3852 He was a great general if you discount his massive losses in troops which he appeared to have no concern for at all! In Western military doctrine that is unacceptable.
@tkk3852
@tkk3852 3 года назад
@@stewartw.9151 That is because he didn't have superior weapons. All he seemed to have in abundance was lots of men and that is what he used. He also used tactics by outmanouvering the French. Also his ability to change strategy in the middle of a battle if the strategy is not working is a sign of great leadership. When he saw many of his troops being mowed down he told them to retreat and start digging trenches. The French on the other hand did not change their strategy even once.
@linhhoang1363
@linhhoang1363 3 года назад
@@stewartw.9151 "In Western military doctrine that is unacceptable"? Look at how the Western meat-grinded their own soldiers in WW1
@maxgrind438
@maxgrind438 2 года назад
Outstanding work and information
@DonCarlosHormozi
@DonCarlosHormozi 3 года назад
Really really cool video. Thanks for posting.
@Obediah002
@Obediah002 6 лет назад
Anyone thinking about joining the military should see this, and consider much more than this even, the dark acts high up in not only command but political circles that use soldiers lives as expendable pawns for no rational reason or necessity at all.
@blankvison
@blankvison 6 лет назад
i support your thinking. However the real reason is simple . Commercial gain. And may I add not even for the Nation but for the global NWO. Bush and Blair are good examples . Both in later interviews admitted they wanted to remove the leader of Iraq not W.M.D's. Both made substantial personnel gains for themselves and they cooperates they represented which were neither British nor American
@Obediah002
@Obediah002 6 лет назад
Yes, Saddam done himself in by rejecting the US Dollar for oil; he was made an example for it.
@azraelbatosi
@azraelbatosi 5 лет назад
Saddam was dead as soon as he started trying to extort major members of OPEC....
@hddun
@hddun 5 лет назад
Yeah, like in Iraq. G. W. Bush was such a loser -- he went bankrupt in the oil business then became president and decided to impress his Daddy. In the process he got 20,000 US grunts and 200,000 Iraq civilians killed. He didn't give one snit about the GI's in the battles over there--he was only looking to get the 100 Billion barrels of Iraq oil for his oil company buddies--paid for in BLOOD...
@MrToddfrench
@MrToddfrench 4 года назад
@@hddun 20,000 grunts killed huh? Where are you getting your information?
@bezoozime9170
@bezoozime9170 3 года назад
There is a difference of ergency between the soldier who is ordered to fight thousands of miles away from his home and the soldier who is fighting for his home.
@marquisdelafayette1929
@marquisdelafayette1929 3 года назад
Urgency *
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 3 года назад
In Malaya both sides were fighting thousands of miles away from home
@iganduyan07
@iganduyan07 3 года назад
the japanese and btritish were both away from home.
@danielengsvang3126
@danielengsvang3126 3 года назад
Absolutely!!! it makes ALL the difference i think
@bessieking3797
@bessieking3797 2 года назад
Always trying to control or take something that doesn't belong to them. Zulu defeated guns with spears and shield.
@andrehenrique2093
@andrehenrique2093 3 года назад
Is always nice see General Giap in a documentary.
@alejandrobustos693
@alejandrobustos693 3 года назад
Nick fury max?
@heinzng1
@heinzng1 3 года назад
He BBQ his troops.
@yami6499
@yami6499 2 года назад
One of the best documentaries and one of kind i have seen on topic.
@kufreibanga7980
@kufreibanga7980 4 года назад
"They had a picnic attitude towards the whole thing..." Savage 😂😂😂
@tonynash1234
@tonynash1234 3 года назад
And that's why they all perished
@stevejette2329
@stevejette2329 3 года назад
Like the first battle of Manassas. Bull Run. Civilians went out to watch and have picnics.
@Crudeoil794
@Crudeoil794 2 года назад
British inferior military came in contact with the true warriors. WELCOME TO THE HORNS OF THE BUFFALO.🐃
@killmeorudie1
@killmeorudie1 2 года назад
@@Crudeoil794 the brits were outnumbered nearly 20:1 Its not like a human wave is some masterful tactic no matter what you call it.
@Crudeoil794
@Crudeoil794 2 года назад
@@killmeorudie1*20 Zulu to1Brit?who had the long range riffles?
@peterflynn9123
@peterflynn9123 3 года назад
General Percival (Singapore) was the commander in Bandon county Cork Ireland during the Irish war of independence He proved himself to be a savagely brutal and incompetent commander in 1920 - it should come as no surprise that chickens came home to roost 2 decades later... the Irish volunteers did not fight according to Percival’s plans and they were defeated. He learned little and made the same mistakes with the Japanese...
@lurchlocker89
@lurchlocker89 2 года назад
I lived on Wellington Road for 7 years, not far from the today's Collin's Barracks where Percival's men were based. It's also just around the corner from where the ambush occurred that led to the burning of Cork, starting at Dillon's Cross and then making their destructive way into the city centre from there.
@worldtraveler7048
@worldtraveler7048 3 года назад
Thank u for this wonderful video
@chaunceychappelle2173
@chaunceychappelle2173 3 года назад
Great topic of the day!!!!! Thanks ya kidly.
@ThisTrainIsLost
@ThisTrainIsLost 2 года назад
"The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns anything from history." How can you depend so much on air power without being cognisant of the fact that you must be able to guarantee places for the planes to land?
@renishii6834
@renishii6834 3 года назад
I never looked at my bicycle the same way ever again
@erwin643
@erwin643 3 года назад
Bicycles can be very effective in war, even in the present. The NVA hauled a lot of cargo on bicycles down the trail.
@kobayashisan2682
@kobayashisan2682 3 года назад
When i bought my bycicle a year ago in the middle of the pandemic in my country, i didn't treart it as a luxurious item.. a treat it as like a tank going everyday to work and a around and take care of it as like a soldier going to war..
@rickv9180
@rickv9180 3 года назад
Bicycles can be turned into technicals
@seppeisenmann8710
@seppeisenmann8710 3 года назад
@@rickv9180 Hi there Mr. V. No offense sir 'coz I agree with you; but are you referring to motorbikes or the manually pedalled ones? I was just trying to imagine what weapons could be fitted in bikes. And yes, almost anything can be turned into 'technicals.'
@leob4645
@leob4645 3 года назад
@@seppeisenmann8710 Dis-assembled weapons are weapons too once it got re-assembled again. Supplies can be a weapon too because without them it can be a big hindrance to win a war. Both of these items can be transported on a bicycle.
@bassmangotdbluz3547
@bassmangotdbluz3547 2 года назад
Well done and quite informative.
@ev.collinsokinyi5769
@ev.collinsokinyi5769 Год назад
Defeat and under estimation go hand in hand. Sometimes it's ignorance that leads to contempt. What a lesson I have learnt today.
@normantessier3379
@normantessier3379 Год назад
For Oh so many 2nd and 1st Lieutenants in Vietnam that screamed out to their Troops "CHARGE!!" It was the last words they ever said Because nobody was going to obey a suicidal order and die going into "The Valley Of Death".
@kwakuba9167
@kwakuba9167 3 года назад
General Giap at Dien Bien Phu.. I love the Vietnamese people. Great country.
@jant.carlsson5061
@jant.carlsson5061 3 года назад
Good food, too!
@mariocisneros911
@mariocisneros911 3 года назад
They were the good guys who didnt deserve foreigners invading their country
@user-gl9iz1bp1r
@user-gl9iz1bp1r 3 года назад
All who value freedom and justice should study: 1. Ho Chi Minh letters to Truman 2. Fragging - The revolt of the US Vietnam Combat Troops 3. Golf courses of Vietnam (2021) What the f*** did 52,220 brave Americans (allies death? ) and 3,000,000 (??) brave Vietnamese die for? And the untold physical and mental damaged lives to those who survived. What has US leadership (I use that term with disdain) learned????? To all the brave fighting men and women on both sides - I solute you and I pray for you. Incredible courage, you are warriors. In memory of PFC Larry Allen Moss - Spokane, WA. (Brother of a good friend)
@letaitam7384
@letaitam7384 3 года назад
sorry, but it is "Dien Bien Phu"(Điện Biên Phủ), not "Dien Bien Phi"
@kwakuba9167
@kwakuba9167 3 года назад
@@letaitam7384 oops. I will update. Thank you.
@lg6707
@lg6707 2 года назад
Great lessons on here and we may need to draw upon it within our lifetimes. Kia Kaha
@susangutrugianios2241
@susangutrugianios2241 2 года назад
Learned alot Well worth watching Never Underestimate your enemy Learn from these mistakes 🤺🤺🤺
@DutchDixon94
@DutchDixon94 6 лет назад
The Vietnamese are a very clever and resourceful people. Their victory over the French was simply stunning!
@6idangle
@6idangle 5 лет назад
Absolutely, beautiful group of people!
@MattC-jg1yb
@MattC-jg1yb 5 лет назад
Yeah but now their country is a commie shithole
@watto3535
@watto3535 3 года назад
How the French thought they could simply walk back into Viet-Nam and take control again as if nothing had happened is beyond me.
@briannguyen0419
@briannguyen0419 3 года назад
@@MattC-jg1yb take a trip to Viet Nam to see if you comment make sense anymore.
@MattC-jg1yb
@MattC-jg1yb 3 года назад
@@briannguyen0419 I don't need to. I look at my shoes and they say "made in vietnam"
@metalbent9078
@metalbent9078 6 лет назад
This is right out of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" chapter lll Strategic Attack Know your Enemies and know yourself.
@kinofrias8616
@kinofrias8616 3 года назад
Sun tzu said- "GREATEST VICTORY IS THAT WHICH REQUIRED NO BATTLE".
@peterfichera2027
@peterfichera2027 2 года назад
The first words of the book are "Pay your spys well. "
@dangreene9846
@dangreene9846 2 года назад
In the words of Nathan Bedford Forrest, get there fastest, with the mostest,
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 2 года назад
The Battle of the Little Bighorn also known as Custer's Last Stand was in 1876. The Battle of Isandlwana between the British and the Zulu was in 1879. In only 3 years people forgot the lessons learned or didn't bother to keep up on warfare around the world nor learned from it.
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
@LiveFreeOrDie2A 2 года назад
*” If you underestimate the enemy and overestimate yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles..”* -Sun Tzfool
@charlesmills6621
@charlesmills6621 4 года назад
Examples of great British officer leadership. Especially the hereditary generals.
3 года назад
English.
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 2 года назад
Gate Pā in New Zealand was another major disaster for the British military who suffered twice the casualties of the Maori defenders.
@y2000ad1
@y2000ad1 2 года назад
Its thier pompous stupidity of underestimating their foes which caused them dearly.
@bessieking3797
@bessieking3797 2 года назад
@@y2000ad1 Superiority complex can cause irresponsible action.
@megancrager4397
@megancrager4397 2 года назад
@@bessieking3797 it seems it always does. Eventually.
@AlexSDU
@AlexSDU 6 лет назад
Singapore - a case of fortifying your front door, but forgot to build fence on your back yard.
@stephenmcdonagh2795
@stephenmcdonagh2795 5 лет назад
And putting generals in charge of Singapore as if it was a retirement home for overly promoted armchair generals, e.g. Percival.
@stephenmcdonagh2795
@stephenmcdonagh2795 5 лет назад
@@brandmotivoNo, I don't know what happened to him, but certain officers stayed in rank whilst thousands of soldiers died on projects like the Burma railway, some of these officers stayed in relative luxury, the distain of the Japanese officers was not enough to get these despicable people- though in a minority- off their backsides. I suspect Percival would've been one such officer.
@rollosnook
@rollosnook 5 лет назад
Percival survived his imprisonment and the war...
@robertdore9592
@robertdore9592 5 лет назад
I've actually been to Singapore and viewed the gun emplacements that could have seen off the Japanese floatilla. It turns out that the commanding officer was waiting for permission to reverse the huge guns that could have carried the day.
@SilverMe2004
@SilverMe2004 5 лет назад
To be fair the Japaneses were basically in the house by the time they got to Singapore
@tovarisch3039
@tovarisch3039 2 года назад
Hi, Zulu here. We learnt about this in history. The battle of Isandlwana was quite damning for the imperial army. The Boers (Dutch immigrants who'd settled South Africa in the 1650's) warned Lord Chelmsford but their words fell on arrogant deaf ears, I mean the hubris coming from the british was palpable.
@seanmccann8368
@seanmccann8368 Год назад
They never change.
@user-EmontE70
@user-EmontE70 2 года назад
I cannot but admire the great General Giap. He is the kind of military leader all soldiers from any army would proudly fight for.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 5 лет назад
i went to the war museums in singapore. posted on the walls were conversations churchill said 3 weeks before the invasion, that there was no need to worry as singapore was safe as houses. japans victory was a close run thing though. they were literally down to 30 mins of ammo. percival by surrendering so quickly also ensured there were plenty of able bodied soldiers fit for work on the burma railway! while i was there i also spotted plenty of japanese tourists celebrating a great historic victory.
@homesteadlegion4419
@homesteadlegion4419 2 года назад
Japan is sadly very bad at confronting their past, its much worse than in oth er countries. Every country struggles with some parts of its past, what i find dangerous is that this superiority way of thinking seems to still be very prominent in western countries like the uk, the us and france, even germany, a country with the lowest amount of national pride today displays that way of thinking way to often.
@megancrager4397
@megancrager4397 2 года назад
@@homesteadlegion4419 well the US is bad for lying about our history
@caelachyt
@caelachyt 2 года назад
@@megancrager4397 - What lies are those?
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 2 года назад
@@homesteadlegion4419 whats wrong with celebrating victory? I don't think they were celebrating the war crimes specifically, otherwise nobody would by allowed to celebrate any war victory.
@felicitybywater8012
@felicitybywater8012 2 года назад
Churchill was smart enough to know better.
@TheFiddle101
@TheFiddle101 2 года назад
Fascinating. As a French person, I knew about Dien Bien Phu when we were shown a documentary at school. Those Vietnamese soldiers and strategists were amazing.
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes Год назад
You are French but have a very Irish surname?
@TheFiddle101
@TheFiddle101 Год назад
@@MrBagpipes Yes, my married name
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes Год назад
@@TheFiddle101 husband Irish?
@TheFiddle101
@TheFiddle101 Год назад
@@MrBagpipes Scottish of Irish parents - I married my own Celtic connection
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes Год назад
@@TheFiddle101 sorry if I seemed nosey, I just find this stuff interesting. I know there was quite a few Irish went to live in France between 1690 and the early 1800s so was wondering if it was something to do with that. Irishmen going to serve in the French army mainly.
@jamescoughlan8193
@jamescoughlan8193 2 года назад
Percival also underestimated the Irish when he was CO of the essex regiment who were sent to cork during the war of independence.
@Theearthtraveler
@Theearthtraveler 2 года назад
Well narrated and very interesting!!!
@MondoBeno
@MondoBeno 2 года назад
The Zulu's had a military strategy that was as good as the British infantry. The Zulus had spears and no guns/horses, but they could run all day, and weren't transporting heavy guns. They were taught how to throw the spear long distance, and get close enough to use their short spear like a big knife. Shaka had developed a close-quarters strike method that was almost identical to that of the Spartans. They were also better dressed for the weather. Sorry folks, but the Zulus were as good as the British.
@briangreen256
@briangreen256 3 года назад
That wasn't the 1st time the British underestimated an enemy. We celebrate Independence Day because of it👍
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 года назад
I'd love to see the Irish get their independence from the Brits and go on to be friends with them.
@YuRrRrRYeEeEeE
@YuRrRrRYeEeEeE 3 года назад
Lmao good one
@Kyle1234861
@Kyle1234861 3 года назад
Whoa mate... Napoleonic wars were going on :) priorities 🤙
@jimmyrourks
@jimmyrourks 3 года назад
It doesn't matter if they overestimated. It was God's will they were going down
@joecarroll7144
@joecarroll7144 3 года назад
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 willloop in
@weed...5692
@weed...5692 2 года назад
I enjoyed this documentary. The aesthetics of "old" documentaries is much, much better then what is made today.
@almariswart6296
@almariswart6296 Год назад
Powerful report-
@hotrodriguez549
@hotrodriguez549 4 года назад
Lt. Gorman was a disaster of a leader and greatly underestimated the aliens in LV-426 Luckily Ellen Ripley was able to save Newt and Cpl. Hicks.
@stalematesteven7251
@stalematesteven7251 3 года назад
Honestly…that’s a perfect example. had you brought this up in class, I would have given you full credit. Made me think…most of the officers from the book/movie Starship Troopers were solid…aside from one.
@winstonbanks1800
@winstonbanks1800 3 года назад
Are we talking about a movie? Fiction compared to non-fiction? If that's the case then bring in Star Wars and Klingons!!!!!
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 2 года назад
Weed?
@charlesromanelli503
@charlesromanelli503 2 года назад
Brilliant. You win.
@kerrydennison7947
@kerrydennison7947 4 года назад
The story of Singapore just adds more credence to rumor of Winston Churchill's special relationship with many of the generals. Such as the generals in North Africa that were removed and replaced for a hold lot less. How General Montgomery survived after the Normandy episode and later the market Garden episode tends to make one think they may be truth to those rumors.
@waynesmith3754
@waynesmith3754 3 года назад
OH but God No . Dont say anything Disparagingly Honest about MONTY .
@mikhailfranco
@mikhailfranco 2 года назад
Alamein was an important victory, but not because of Monty's genius. It was a plodding WWI frontal assault plan, through minefields, against superior German tanks and anti-tank guns, with victory based on numbers and logistical balance, not tactical brilliance.
@dariosilva85
@dariosilva85 3 года назад
General Giap is just totally unique. He is one of the greatest military minds of all time.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 3 года назад
True, but he had the home-field / home-country advantage. He was also well-supplied by both the Chinese and Russians.
@shoutitallloud
@shoutitallloud 3 года назад
I believe credits also should go to vietnam people, soldiers and defenders. As for very brilliant commander would not implement his plans, without rellying on courage and selfsacrifice of regular soldiers.
@dariosilva85
@dariosilva85 3 года назад
@@shoutitallloud Soldiers are usually not brave, if they dont have a great commander, whose plans they trust.
@pleiadecca
@pleiadecca 3 года назад
It has been said that Giap was never sadder than on the day he realized the United States was NOT his friend or ally. He felt betrayal.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 3 года назад
@@pleiadecca Yah, and Ho Chi Minh also, I think. Ho even wanted to quote the U.S. constitution in the Vietnamese constitution.
@klauszungler8930
@klauszungler8930 2 года назад
In scale it was like 20 Little Big Horn's at "Custers Last Stand" AMAIZING
@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355
@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355 6 лет назад
are those wax sculptures? Oh god, they're terrifying!
@urviechalex9963
@urviechalex9963 3 года назад
Uncanny valley anyone?
@roflcopter645
@roflcopter645 3 года назад
the background music makes it even more scary
@Juggernaut365
@Juggernaut365 2 года назад
I thought I was trippin. I leaned in to see if the dude just had crazy eyes, then was like.. is this guy alive? Stuffed? Is that how I look too?! WTF
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 лет назад
The video mentions in passing a "running out of ammo" and the subsequent faltering of fire by the British troops at Ishandlwana which allowed the Zulus to overrun that flank. The fact is they were becoming short on ammo and had sent runners back to the main camp to collect more ammo. A little known fact is the Quartermaster's wagon was the store for ammo and this was packed in sturdy reuseable wooden boxes, the lid secured with numerous wood-screws. Incredibly no screwdriver could be found and the Quartermaster, hidebound by King's Regulations, a real "company" man obviously, refused to let troops smash open the boxes or even to pry loose the lids which would cause damage to property for which he would be held responsible! This was sorted out after a significant delay. Some analysts attribute the initial penetration through the defence by the Zulus and ultimately the final defeat partially to this delay. Also the video omits one very important matter. The Zulus were able to get very close to the defenders by creeping along deep "dongas" (natural water-eroded deep fissures in the ground) and to take the defenders by surprise from close in. Much like the Vietnamese at Dien Ben Phu except there was no digging needed! Fact is that the video-makers have started with their theory of racism and simply expanded on that without taking account of many relevant and significant issues.
@phifflon
@phifflon 5 лет назад
It is also the Rifle it self, With the heat and repeted firing the rifle could not extract the spent case, it being jamed in due to the sticky residue of firing and the expanded brass.
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube 5 лет назад
Stewart W. Well stated. Boring wasn’t it. Why not acknowledge the Zulus for their use of these dongas instead of the boring old racist clap trap.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 лет назад
@@rogerpattube I just did that in my comment - or can you not read?
@CDSAfghan
@CDSAfghan 5 лет назад
@@stewartw.9151 he was agreeing with you
@Phatman2167
@Phatman2167 5 лет назад
Yes, he did miss the dongas. Natural land formations are a wonderful source of cover. About a year ago, I saw a show on the Battle of Isandlawana, where they tested a Martini-Henry rifle. On average, after 30 rounds of rapid fire, either the bore would clog, causing the extractor to fail, or even worse, because the round used a thin casing, it would tear the rear off of the shell, so you couldn't even shove a cleaning rod down the barrel or use your bayonet to dig it out. Kinda reminds you of the first issue of the M-16 rifle.
@rogerrodgersen7702
@rogerrodgersen7702 3 года назад
Superb documentary ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@damisa3392
@damisa3392 2 года назад
In the segment on the unexpectedly quick movement of the Japanese troops down the Malaya peninsula, the documentary neglected to recount the massive use of the common bicycle by the soldiers of the armies of Japan in moving in force through the jungles. Caught the tea sipping British military brass completely by surprise!
@nomdeplume2117
@nomdeplume2117 2 года назад
gallipoli revisited
@higgins382
@higgins382 5 лет назад
Decimated is losing one-tenth of your forces. The hint is in 'Deci'. It was a punishment during the Roman era. To punish a large group of men (you don't want to completely destroy your forces) 10 men would draw straws and the shortest drawn would be beaten to death by the other 9.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 лет назад
Glad that someone else is also irritated by the incorrect use - everywhere - of the term!
@catalintgjiu
@catalintgjiu 3 года назад
@@stewartw.9151 sadly this is frequently use also in romanian despite that is a romance-(latin) language☹
@yzfool6639
@yzfool6639 3 года назад
I'm just glad to know that the meaning of 'decimated' is one of the few English words that means exactly the same thing it did when the Romans coined it 2200 years ago. I'll have to talk to my Classic professor and give her a piece of my mind.
@geordischmidt
@geordischmidt 3 года назад
Once again, French leadership fails spectacularly. They lost in June 1940 because they took a 1918 army into 1940. Then, they lost Dien Bien Phu because they failed to remember the lessons of 1918.
@user-dr1bv7gg1r
@user-dr1bv7gg1r 2 года назад
Vietnam it will be a walkover they are just brown people
@robertnegron9706
@robertnegron9706 2 года назад
The French are lovers. Not fighters. VIVA LA FRANCE!
@panzerkunsth
@panzerkunsth 2 года назад
They had a modern army in 1940. They failed in 1940 because many things. Bad doctines, lack of spirits, failure of initiative of military leaders. Same happened to the British and Americans. They were lucky to be isolated by a sea and a ocean and they had time to learn the best way to use modern equipement, how to counter the blitzkrieg.
@creatingreality291
@creatingreality291 3 года назад
I never underestimate anyone. I just know what matters and what doesn't matter...
@quintaeco
@quintaeco 3 года назад
Correction: America NEVER lost a battle in Vietnam, the American politicians lost the war!
@levisvarela3735
@levisvarela3735 2 года назад
the media, the real culprit, if no media were to be allow, the war would have been won much sooner, all it was needed was a few nukes
@danosverige
@danosverige 2 года назад
"lost the war"....is the only relevant part that counts mate.
@zr03f0rt7
@zr03f0rt7 2 года назад
The Socialist Republic of Vietnam is still alive and well. It’s called Ho Chi Minh City, not Saigon. They won, our little battle scorecard is irrelevant. We had no business there, that much is clear. We couldn’t handle it.
@ryanstephen6163
@ryanstephen6163 2 года назад
@@danosverige You miss such an obvious point? This video and whole context is about "military" blunders
@jeffreyturnbull4992
@jeffreyturnbull4992 2 года назад
Every invading military force has already lost the battle for its soul, its honesty, its humanity, and honor. The only military dead rightly called "heroes" are those who died defending their homeland on home soil.
@gcrav
@gcrav 4 года назад
I'd love to see this series cover the US wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria. But since those responsible aren't safely dead it could ruffle some feathers.
@MrToddfrench
@MrToddfrench 4 года назад
Lol I must have been mistaken during my time in country, but I dont remember any great blunders during the war. We took Baghdad in a week and were never repelled from an objective. You can have an opinion about the rights or wrongs of the wars, but you cant rewrite our experiences.
@myopicthunder
@myopicthunder 3 года назад
That chaos was planned like the disbanding of the Iraqi military.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 3 года назад
The "mistakes" weren't in the military grand planning but in the White House and the Dept. of State. The first Gulf War came about because or Ambassador to Iraq said the US had no problem with Iraq taking Kuwait. Like it or not, Gulf War I begot 911 which begot Afghanistan which begot Gulf War II.
@leoarc1061
@leoarc1061 2 года назад
​@@MrToddfrench No blunders?! The entire war was a blunder! Afghanistan and Iraq are more dangerous and less stable now than they were at the beginning of the campaigns... after thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars on the U.S. side alone! If that's not a massive blunder, I don't know what is. "But I'm talking about operational blunders, not strategic ones", you might say. Ok, how many operations were conducted to capture specific areas, just for them to be lost to the taliban, sometimes literally over night?! I think you served in a different war, my dear friend.
@gcrav
@gcrav 2 года назад
@Paul Clarke Was George W. Bush, architect of the Afghanistan and Iraq disasters, a Democrat?
@jasonfirewalker3595
@jasonfirewalker3595 3 года назад
I can still hear the incredulous superiority in many a voice.
@davidemmet7343
@davidemmet7343 2 года назад
Strangely, I can still hear it in yours.
@jasonfirewalker3595
@jasonfirewalker3595 2 года назад
@@davidemmet7343 you get a gold star. Nailed it.
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 2 года назад
Every great military force to have ever existed has, at one point or another, and to its detriment, underestimated the capabilities of its adversaries. Me, personally, as a martial artist..i always just assume from the start that my opponent knows everything that I know, and is at the very least as skilled and as competent as I am.
@ntatemohlomi2884
@ntatemohlomi2884 3 года назад
01:35 "The British were anxious to DEVELOP southern Africa, the Zulus were in the way." Damn, that's some original take on colonialism right there. Seems even the documentary producers have learnt nothing about undermining others.
@edidiongumana1337
@edidiongumana1337 3 года назад
Don’t mind them. When they invaded Africa no African interviewed them in UK and issued passports to travel to Africa.
@hugosophy
@hugosophy 2 года назад
I think it’s phrased that way in this documentary so that we get an understanding of how British arrogance was corrupting their ability to wage successful battle outcomes
@rswow
@rswow 2 года назад
03:09 "... the British force under the command of Lord Chancellor a friend of Queen Victoria ..." > And, so tell me again, why we in Canada and elsewhere need to respect and vow allegiance etc to the British royalty that's been a party to the colonial tyranny let loose? God, we were made to sing about the current Queen in elementary school, while a nearby park was recently named after the Queen.
@manuelfaelnar4794
@manuelfaelnar4794 2 года назад
@@rswow The Canadians should have joined the American revolution?
@lurchlocker89
@lurchlocker89 2 года назад
Same thing happened with an Aussie friend of mine when he was a kid in school. I'm proud to say he refused to sing God Save the Queen. Then again I suppose his mother was Irish 🙂
@gmborromeo
@gmborromeo 3 года назад
I guess the Zulu general "read" Sun Tzu's ART OF WAR... "Know your enemy and Know Yourself and in a hundred battle you'll have Victory"...and so many Chapters in its book that the English General was missing.
@cristop5
@cristop5 3 года назад
When it came to the defence of Singapore, Percival did not underestimate the strength of the Japanese, he OVERestimated their strength. He didn't know they had less than half the number of troops he had, and that they were almost out of supplies.
@georgecarter838
@georgecarter838 3 года назад
If it was a game of poker, it was a great bluff on the Japanese part. It always amazed me how the British lost to so few.
@rangavenkat5104
@rangavenkat5104 3 года назад
@@georgecarter838 brits thaought short fellas can't handle machinery and cannot walk as fast as English men ... 😂😂 They had bicycles though
@seppeisenmann8710
@seppeisenmann8710 3 года назад
Timidity on Percival's part? That's why we always need aggressive officers & ditch the defeatist ones.
@disillusionedanglophile7680
@disillusionedanglophile7680 3 года назад
The Japanese kicked the British out of everywhere in Asia except India/Ceylon. Booted from Hong Kong, Burma, Malasia etc. It shattered the Empire and the myth of the White man as supermen. In Vietnam the French got kicked out by the Japanese (whose troops ended up employed by the French to fight in North Vietnam).
@normanlinden5786
@normanlinden5786 3 года назад
The Japanese had captured Singapore's water supply, they had complete mastery of the air and sea, and the majority of Percival's remaining troops were garrison-type, not front-liners.
@dc7370
@dc7370 2 года назад
Well done. Thank you. Consider doing a video about the Scottish highland rifle group that met the large Russian Calvary contingent. Oxford book of military antidotes
@marlbankian
@marlbankian 3 года назад
Excellent food for thought
@greengrass9572
@greengrass9572 4 года назад
As we say in the UK - never trust someone with the title 'lord' before their name.
@sqweels
@sqweels 4 года назад
How can you defend a culture that never came up with a gender-neutral set of possessive pronouns?
@johndo3930
@johndo3930 4 года назад
@Russ Gallagher oh get lost!!!!!
@lordmopton
@lordmopton 4 года назад
I quite agree ...
@brucegibbins3792
@brucegibbins3792 4 года назад
As has been uttered in typical British arrogance that, "The sun will never set on the British Empire" To which the more reasoned response was, "That is because God doesn't trust the English in the dark"
@vincenttan9367
@vincenttan9367 3 года назад
@@brucegibbins3792 that's a good one
@VietTran-IAMV
@VietTran-IAMV 3 года назад
I love France and Napoleonic war. You could see many elders in Viet Nam having books about Napoleon and that era on their book shelves. It is quiet ironic how Giap used canons supremacy to win the French army and transported it through the path which is considered "impossible to go through" like how Napoleon transported canons through the Alps.
@kevinsysyn4487
@kevinsysyn4487 2 года назад
You are correct. Napoleon was an artillery captain and Giap knew the value of relentless artillery fire.
@danrook5757
@danrook5757 2 года назад
Fact: Napoleon dresses as a women to escape Vilnius, Lithuania when they were retrieving from Moscow
@lurchlocker89
@lurchlocker89 2 года назад
Don't forget the great Carthaginian general Hannibal Barca crossed the Alps with war elephants during the Second Punic War nearly 2,000 years before Napoleon 😉 I visited Vietnam for a month back in September and October 2019. During my journeys I rode a Honda 175cc motorbike on the Ho Chi Minh trail in the Central Highlands. I don't think I've ever seen such a beautiful country. And the Vietnamese are among the finest people to grace the planet Earth in my opinion.
@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059
Until he met his Waterloo.
@maxheadshot3287
@maxheadshot3287 3 года назад
"I don't want a damn Dien Bien Phu". Lyndon B. Johnson.
@maxheadshot3287
@maxheadshot3287 3 года назад
@Jim Q. Regal Battle of Khe San
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 2 года назад
@@maxheadshot3287 Which was NOT "a damn Dien Bien Phu". .
@petergianarakos5698
@petergianarakos5698 2 года назад
Actually Johnson, in Texas accent said " I don't want any Din Bin foo".
@petergianarakos5698
@petergianarakos5698 2 года назад
Read "Hells Half Acre" a history of the French War in Indochina. The French commander of artillery , when it was pointed out they were surrounded by mountains replied not to worry since the Viet Mihn could not get artillery into those mountains. They Viet Mihn (sp?) Took their artillery apart and carried the guns, piece by piece , up the mountains, reassembled them and blew the French to pieces. The artillery officer put a hand grenade to his stomach and pulled the pin. Arrogance. Once again.
@felicitybywater8012
@felicitybywater8012 2 года назад
This is a good documentary.
@bingeltube
@bingeltube 4 года назад
Very recommendable! Never underestimate the enemy!
@ottomeyer6928
@ottomeyer6928 3 года назад
take head america
@eltigre249
@eltigre249 3 года назад
Nor overestimate.
@doverbeachcomber
@doverbeachcomber 6 лет назад
In the months after Isandhlwana, the Zulus failed to defeat the other British columns, which deployed themselves properly at Kambula and Eshowe. In July of that same year, Chelmsford advanced on the Zulu capital, Ulundi. When attacked in the open, he formed his troops into square and decisively defeated a Zulu army of 20,000. There’s no disputing the high courage, discipline, and tenacity of the Zulu warriors, but armed only with short spears and oxhide shields, they never had any realistic prospect of final victory.
@williameaton9058
@williameaton9058 5 лет назад
The Americans gave you the Maxim gun to make sure you didnt lose anymore battles to stone age people.
@thomaspollock9274
@thomaspollock9274 5 лет назад
british had guns zulus fought and won with spears
@hlonelaqothelo4076
@hlonelaqothelo4076 2 года назад
@@williameaton9058 Iron age people
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 9 месяцев назад
​@@williameaton9058you mean a russian..
@felixdzerjinsky5244
@felixdzerjinsky5244 3 года назад
During the Vietnam conflict, the enemy that the Americans underestimated, were the ones in Washington DC.
@Ant-ls2pr
@Ant-ls2pr 3 года назад
Very well made
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