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A Lesson from Zabriskie Point: video essay 

Ben Woodiwiss
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This is a video essay about a formative moment I experienced while watching Zabriskie Point. All clips are used under fair use/criticism.
Film clips from:
Zabriskie Point (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1970)
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (James Cameron, 1991)
Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1976)
Childhood of a Leader (Brady Corbet, 2016)
X-Men: First Class (Matthew Vaughn, 2011)
Bohemian Rhapsody (Bryan Singer & Dexter Fletcher, 2018)
Le Fils (Dardenne Brothers, 2002)
Atomic Blonde (David Leitch, 2017)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman, 1975)

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28 мар 2021

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@cliveashenden6408
@cliveashenden6408 3 года назад
Fascinating video essay Ben. Would be interested in seeing you develop these thoughts in further video essays. For example - the whole ‘slow cinema’ idea, where these extended shots are applied to a whole film, and you get a completely different pacing and cinema experience. I’m thinking of Bela Tarr’s films, particularly Werchmeister Harmonies. I wouldn’t want all films to be like that, but it does give it a special quality.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 3 года назад
Clive! Thanks so much, and yeah slow cinema is a whole thing - changes the dynamic/tone of what a film is completely. I don't know if I'll keep talking about the same thing or spiral out into different areas, either way every element of cinema folds into every other element, so it'll all be related somehow :)
@super8MOD
@super8MOD 3 года назад
This is interesting. Time lapse is no doubt another form of long held shot.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 3 года назад
Dominic! As I live and breathe. Thanks so much, and yes - time-lapse is very much tied into this. In fact, if I ever manage to finish this difficult 'second film essay' you'll see some of that included 😃
@bonyclyde
@bonyclyde 4 месяца назад
Great reflexions on movie! 👏👏👍
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much 🔥🙌
@achalseth545
@achalseth545 2 года назад
thanks for sharing this
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss Год назад
You are very welcome, thank you so much for watching 🙏
@charcasc7462
@charcasc7462 11 месяцев назад
Have you seen The Passenger by Antonionni? The penultimate shot in that one lasts 7 minutes or so before the next cut. That film is full of long take shots.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 11 месяцев назад
Yes I have, love that ending 🙌
@LordGreystoke
@LordGreystoke 11 месяцев назад
As you showed, ZP was not the first film to make use of time lapse and extended scenes. When I saw this film for the first time, I definitely did not spend time on the gas canister scene. I was enthralled by the opening student rebellion conversation, the sex/love scene in the desert, and of course the grand finale. But I think that the extended scene is a generally a "lost art" in cinema today. You mention the average length is 8 seconds. What's the average length today? The attention span has been compressed even further. We don't get the luxury of lingering in a particular scene, although some director still do make the effort to be generous to their viewers, I suppose. Your insight was ok but nothing monumental or revelatory for me. But hey, I watched your vid from start to end. And that was much longer than 8 seconds. ;-)
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 11 месяцев назад
Hah, thanks! I think the mean average for English language ASL is down to around 2.5 seconds now - but that data's a few years old. Not sure how that ties in with increasing length of films too. Always nice to meet a fellow ZP stan 🙌
@PanteraRossa
@PanteraRossa 6 месяцев назад
Antonioni's main thematic trope was isolation. Often times the languid pace of certain shots deals with externalizing visually what the characters might be going through internally. He's like an impressionistic painter who uses visuals versus dialogue to express character development and move story forward. Often times he's extremely subtle like Lavventura or La Notte, and others he's very overt and almost cartoonish about it like Zabriskie. I think you could've used Children of Men instead of the Dardennes. Much more widely known and probably better example, at least in invisibility. I think long takes tend to get ruined when they're noticeable, because it becomes just an ego thing of a filmmaker showing off. If you're already AWARE that you haven't changed the shot you're probably boring people more than building tension. A lot of European and Asian arthouse handicap themselves from getting more mainstream audiences in the West for their work when they disregard pacing for the sake of a longer shot language. That's why I think Cuaron happens to be more interesting as a long take filmmaker than most people we relate to the technique because you almost never reach that point of noticing the long take, it's all just about blocking and processing events in real time not extending shots for no reason. In Roma, one of the most devastating scenes is her getting stood up at the cinemas after telling her boyfriend she's pregnant. She steps outside to look for him and there's like this minute where she's just desperate and relizing what's happening, no dialogue, no camera move, just her alone getting drowned by the crowd noise and the street vendors. It's not only emotionally and cinematically perfect, it's a freaking time machine because almost every latin person of a certain age who grew up down there is TRANSPORTED in that mini scene. It's soooooo realisitc and just, amazing. Compared to certain blocking decisions in The Revenant or Birdman for example (same DP different director), where the camera scenes constantly feel like they're "acted" and "performed" because the camera has to swoop and circle around the characters reaction to the over the shoulders and swoop back, it's all just very noticeable and you'd save so much by simply editing. It became too much like VR as opposed to seeing a majestic long shot. Bi Gan's Long Day's Journey also gave me that same feeling. Masterful craft and inspiring to watch, but also quite dull and ultimately ineffective at creating lasting emotional impact. Very good hybrid directors who use long takes to frame specific scenes and moments of their films are Scorsese (Irishman, that PHONE CALL), Spielberg and Steve McQueen. In fact, Joe Walker always says that Steve has that innate ability to hold JUST until the shot makes its point, then we cut not before. Check out Twin Peak The Return for a filmmaker that is in complete control of film language and uses pacing almost as a thematic element. This entire video reminds me of that one episode ending where the barkeep is literally sweeping at the end of the night for 3 minutes in silence. Most episodes actually tend to end in atmospheric long takes as credits roll. Haunting.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing, and I really do appreciate you taking the time to write
@verybutton
@verybutton Месяц назад
I don't know that it's very relevant to what you say, but it looks to me like "the shot" is actually two shots with a hidden cut.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss Месяц назад
One on the throw, one on the roll? I sure don't need much encouragement to watch it a few more times 🙌
@verybutton
@verybutton Месяц назад
@@BenWoodiwiss Yeah basically. I think there's a cut in the blank frames between the throw (which doesn't seem very directional) and the roll (which does). Not a hill I'm willing to die on, but it kinda looks that way to me.
@BenWoodiwiss
@BenWoodiwiss Месяц назад
@@verybutton You could be right here, I keep watching it and it's hard to tell - Antonioni *did* love going to extra (hidden) effort - hey, the roll is my hill, so we're all cool, this is just a super interesting possibility 🤝
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