a little film about Love 

I love you Jesus❤️

@@Joel-Haver wait Jesus! he is Judas!

@@Joel-Haver ship it

@@robertevans9962 Purpose is overrated. We just wanna live and wanna do it however the fuck it comes into our minds, no matter how terrible or weird or pointless. Principles are great, sometimes they play into our chaotic nature, or predictable nature. But they're not necessary.

@@robertevans9962 I also find it weird even though I'm not christian. Especially because he makes money out of this.

Can't agree more with you @ainsley. Joel's videos are such an inspiration. It's feels so personal on a platform where you don't expect that kind of filmmaking

Yeah this and some of his other films make me deeply sad and pull my head out of the hole I bury it in

Thank you for your kind words, the fact that my content can pull you out of the mindless background noise loop means so much to me. Thanks so much for watching

Wow, I love pain so much

I’m glad that I’m subscribed and I just can’t believe the creativity that you have. I wonder after each video how you come up with these things because I’m in awe after all very video that i’ve seen. I just seems that it can be so real, like your creativity has so much realism in it I just love watching your videos as much as this guy’s comment that I’m commenting on. I hope you see this.

I tend to do that

Its very impressive how well he can act 2 people at the same time having a conversation. Usually when people do something like that its very static. Joel on the other hand makes the scene feel natural with regular camera changes and movement.

What, are you serious? I thought it was his cousin or some other relative. 🤔

Lmao same

Me too

Im just glad they stopped this whole critical thing, it was amazingly unfunny. Love his other videos tho

@@larsgoran9926 to oooo

@@Kev_The_Wev ?

I loved that line, so bittersweet

The second he said this I knew it’d be quoted in the comments

Can someone pls explain what this means cause im dumb when it comes to this stuff

@@arthurmorgan5864 Was just gonna ask lol, I think it means he dislikes that he has to restrict himself with his feelings.

@@arthurmorgan5864 My interpretation is that he has a bunch of people in his life that he secretly loves but knows they will never be able to love him back, so he has to admire them from a distance because he can never be in a relationship with them. But it's said in a very poetic way

I won’t

@@Joel-Haver I think you should, but like, only for a little bit, to play a character. And then be you again. That's the best I think

Damn. This is what I'm going through in my life currently. 😪

@Nonaya Bidness i think it’s serious as he posts a lot of these and puts work into the camera angles and such. Could be a joke, either way it’s cool.

@Nonaya Bidness I dunno, I connect a ton to it. Like, the way she describes the man screaming... it's a little incoherent, and you can read that as a little humorous but... it's still a problem she's dealing with. And he acts real emotion with it. And that template, that pattern where your friends and loved ones are communicating their struggles, and they don't really make sense to you, but you be there for them anyways, because they are something good in your life. That's something I find meaningful. I really really like this series.

When he fell down on that bed.....I felt that!

your videos always brighten the day

Hey man, same happened to me once. It takes time, but eventually you'll be ok. You'll find someone who really cares about you as much as you care about them.

Sorry to hear that Mitchel, hope you can move through this heartache gracefully❤️

@@Joel-Haver Thanks so much Joel! You are such a wholesome dude. Much love! You as well on whatever people helped you create this masterpiece and when you find yourself thinking about that glass of water yourself ❤

Same happened to me brother. I was dating a girl, she moved across the country, we tried dating long distance, she broke up with me. I thought it was the distance... I moved across to country, met up with her and found out she actually just lost interest. It's so hard to be on this side of the break up. I've been trying to make sense of it. What I've come up with is: I tremendously respect her for following through with her feelings and letting me go rather than allowing me drag her around in a one sided relationship. I think she made the right choice, initiating and following through with a break up can be very hard. This is only something I've recently learned. I can continue to love her, and probably will forever, but that doesn't mean that I can't love someone else. Regadless of my feelings for her, it's pointless to waste energy trying to win her back or holding myself back from moving on. And lastly, In the moment, every person I've been with I think is the best person I'll ever be with.. then months (or more likely years) later I somehow find someone I feel is even better! This moment sucks.. but I'm telling myself I'll look back at this day and laugh about how hopeless I felt. I hope something here helps you man. And in the end, when you feel like you have no other options and your emotional back is against the wall, you might try praying to God/spirit guides/the universe/etc... Pray that your lonely mind can be clear, or for a rebound, or to meet someone who loves you again. Worth a shot and at the very least, vocalizing your honest deep down needs is valuable

I'm very sorry. Just that... I've nothing better to say...

I'm so sorry for your pain. This is so horribly beautifully written. The video choked me up but this straight up chokeslammed me. Thank you for sharing, it's weirdly comforting because I think the same thing is about to happen to me too. I hope that's not insensitive, and I hope venting into the RU-vid void provided you with some alleviation from your pain

That's an awful thing. I'm so sorry. I hope you're able to find yourself through this all as well. If you were a good husband, you must be a great person. And you've still got a lot to put into the world. It's hard to be an individual after that, but you still are worth it

Much love my guy. I hope you can find some peace with this. I'm rooting for ya

Thank you, all of you, for the kind words and encouragement. “This too shall pass.” Is such a cliche quote, but it’s one that I cling to in times like these. Joel Haver fans are such nice people.

What tells you she stayed? Nothing confirms or denies it. It seems open-ended.

@@Fourthirteen82 she asked for water and he brought it to her, like when she first arrived

Dammit, spoiler

@@GideonTheNinth9 i know that's what happened when she first arrived, but it seems like the last shot could've been him just going to lay down in bed with some water as well. Edit: plus, the same nail polish on the hand that brings the water as the one who drinks it...

@@viktoriaking4064 ik I hate seeing spoilers as top comments

Taking self love to a new level

JoJo

Awful. I like my ship names to start with SS.

jojo elel

Born is the king of RU-vid-iel.

I hope things are going well with you and your partner, I had the same problem. I couldn’t fix it.

Comedy is about deep emotions and high level acting. Never understood people being suprised by the overlap(not trying to sound aggro)

@@kndhrty Comedy is like.. fetishes. No matter how weird or odd or painful, someone will probably get a kick out of it.

@@kndhrty That's true, we tend to forget that

@@kndhrty that's fair, I guess it's just because I seldom see both done so well by the same person. It seems most people I see can do one or the other well.

I know right? It's really impressive. I feel like both his absurdist comedy and deeply emotional work taps into something raw. I think that's the skill and foundation that makes both equal outlets, rather than opposites

Not having that unfortunate experience doesn't take away from the film, I think.

All Joel does is flex his talent, in acting, in production, in creativity, in his friends. Like, this is prime youtube, the youtube we don't deserve, yet we have this one Joel. Magical times

Have you watched any of his movies? The ones I've seen so far have this sort of depth.

@@galaxyknuckles9000 search for pretend that you love me. A fucking gem

@@galaxyknuckles9000 I've watched Forget About Everything For A While, Taking a Little Time to Feel Sorry For Myself, I'm Going To Be Famous, and Island. All of them have moments of quiet contemplation and just invite you to think about the loneliness of being human.

i thought this too, but then i realized that joel loving girl joel is just him coming to terms with the fact that you have to love yourself. "then you came along and i was happy". then joel found self love and was happy

It really did. And even ended with me in tears.

@@atra7xroxs this is a great take. I actually felt like it was a kind of Jungian in a way. A conversation between his ego and his Anima. I'm not sure what the intention was in this but I do feel like this is a possibility.

I recommend psychedelics

Same here, except it's just me with myself in a wig.

@@TaylorWeston Dude same. You and I are like on the same page or something, like from a book. Now that's what I call Insaneo-Style.

I hope you find the happiness you deserve too ♥️

I wish you the strength to move through your heartache, there are always brighter days ahead

Wtf

Best wishes to you. I'm also going through some struggles... found that the wife cheated. Working on getting her kicked to the curb, but boy was I not ready for the mental/emotional toll something like this has on a person. Truly destroyed me! I'm still a mess, but little by little I'll get there. Not sure where "there" is yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually lol.

I hope you’re doing well, best of wishes to you

If you haven't seen Joel's feature length movie, "Pretend That You Love Me", I highly recommend it. It's on his channel.

I agree with this. I was praying for that hand to show up when he put that glass down because if she’s still there that means they are still working on it together and will make life functional somehow.

This one part confused me. What is the old man a representation of? I'm having a hard time seeing what this meant.

@@TheCatnipCinema I took it to represent anxiety and the various pressures of life. Sometimes those pressures drown out the sound of support of those around you, and sometimes that support just adds to the pressure and anxiety until it gets louder and more unbearable. That was my interpretation, at least.

@@TheCatnipCinema It's a good metaphor for depression, too. All these good things make a scratch in the surface, or get your head above water for a moment, but you're still drowning.

@@evigvandrare someone else referred to it as "The more affection we get, the louder the voices get, saying we don't deserve love, them, or to be happy." and I personally relate to this. I love that Joel's video means so much to many different people in different situations.

@@TheCatnipCinema The old man doesn't have to be anxiety, depression or whatever the others mentioned. That's kind of the point of it and why the description is so "vague" or general. It's because there's a million different things in life that can stand in your way, that cause you great stress, anger, sadness or whatever the emotion/problem is. The old man represents every possible struggle there is, the reason why Joel isn't mentioning anything specific here because the same result the skit is showing, can happen no matter the root cause/issue. For one person it can be anxiety, for another it can be depression and for someone else it could be suicidal tendencies. What matters is that the old man is a battle that the person themselves have to win, you can receieve support and it helps. But in the end, the ability to remove the screaming comes internally, because internally is where its screaming in the first place. Basically the reason the suffering character is saying that the old man screams louder the more Joel is supporting. Is because the more support they receive, the less they grow and so the more vulnerable they become to the screaming, turning even more dependant on Joel. Sometimes you can't grow when your support is supporting you too much, kind of how you can't learn to ride a 2-wheel bike if you never remove the support wheels. There's nothing inherently wrong with the wheels, they're doing what they're supposed to do, if anything they're too good. The wheels themselves are not at fault, it's the person using the wheels, they're too afraid to move forwards using their own balance. This is where you can start having spiraling, negative thought loops of self-hatred, shame and severe loss of confidence. The person will feel terrible for needing support wheels in the first place, "I'm so stupid" "I'm so pathetic", which in turn makes it harder to even remove the wheels in the first place. "What if I fail?" "What if everyone will see what a failure I am?" "What if I can't make it?" "What if I fall so hard I can't get back up". They will then proceed to loop that thought into shameful thinking, "I'm scared to remove the wheels because I'm such a weak coward, I won't amount to anything". Their inability to remove the wheels, the fear, loops back into the initial thoughts of feeling pathetic etc, each empowering the next thought in the spiral. This one of many common pitfalls that causes people to stay in toxic/abusive relationships, no matter if it's a partner, parents, friend or boss/work etc. Paraphrasing Joel's character "It's always the wrong place the wrong time", the old man unfortunately does represent that kind of issue. It's the classic, it's not you it's me, except it's the real deal. Something that happens a looot between ages of 20-35, not saying it's weird outside of that range, just how much more common it is. Joel hasn't done anything directly wrong, he's doing the right thing, but it's in the wrong place at the wrong time, or it can be the right place at the wrong time and vice versa. It's a complex internal struggle that varies per individual, hence why the vague description of "Old man screaming". Because the overall feeling and or result is the same.

There's more happy times to come if you wait until the very end :)

Thanks for watching

I wish you well through your healing, thanks for coming back and watching this❤️

should i skip school for youtube video making? i making good stuff but i need much time to making. maybe replace school with making videos. i have two girlfriends. thanks for your opinion dear jojo

Should I delete my comment just so I don't have to see Axxl's stupid ass replies? Also being a douchbag who gloats about having women doesn't make you cool. It makes you annoying.

@Axxl i feel like you should keep doing school since it ususally gives you more opportunities in life. RU-vid isnt really that stable of an income and youll really need some other source to support it, unless of course you blow up and stuff. So yeah i think you should continue school and also congrats with your 2 girlfriends i hope you're doing well.

Well he released a whole movie with this thematic

@12 Feet Up beat me to it haha, it's one of my favorite cat stevens tracks.

Your second line, is this what the old man screaming is? I now just realized this. I have this same issue and never thought of it this way. The more affection my boyfriend gives me the more I resist it and think I don't deserve it.

@@TheCatnipCinema I have a problem with my mind. It's nothing medical, I guess, but psychological, probabaly. I can't stay quiet in a good situation, for my brain start telling me stories of how everything will go sour, eventually. These stories are coocked part from traumas, part from fears. I'm currently fighting myself so I can get my mind to quiet down and let me enjoy the good moments in life, not only relationship ones. I don't know if this is relatable to you, but, for me, that's the screaming man I want not to hear anymore, for he have nothing trully important to say.

Thank you for sharing this. Hits where it needs to for me

@@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602 thanks for sharing your perspective. I don't have the exact trauma you have but I too have a very hard time turning my brain off to just relax every once in a while. To be honest, some people are born being what is called in the psychology field "neurotic" while others develop it thru trauma. I am naturally neurotic and part of that is my adhd influencing it too as well as adoption. I'm naturally very anxious and fidgety. Also self deprecating too. I hope you can find peace even with your traumas and life experiences.

🙌💯🙌

Just create a new personality in your head to start dating. You'll be fine. Nobody will think you're crazy.

Hey I know this doesn't mean much coming from a random person like me, but change is always possible, and so is love ❤️ life may surprise you yet

You meet people when you least expect it, just focus being your best you.

honestly what helped me with meeting and courting my wife was holding myself to a standard of someone i could and would consider myself marrying. i wanted to marry someone happy and respectful and lovely, so i worked on being that for her

@@Azimii that's really cute :)

pretend that you love me is fucking rough on the soul

Might need to check it out

@@joshuagiuliani3619 you should! its such a raw masterpiece. i hope you go check it out

@@ur.new.valentine Just watched it. Crazy.

@@joshuagiuliani3619 i hope youre recovering well lmao :))) it took me like an hour to just sit and process all i saw and how much it resonated in all the best and worst ways. its amazing such a funny man can still produce such deep and personal and raw works like that

Joel definitely has that influence on all of us, and I haven’t even personally met him like you have, but I’d love to meet you all and collab. Ya guys seem like my kind guys.

Happy I could help you feel something you had to, thanks for watching. All things considered I’ve been good, just gotta take the bad in stride. Wish you the best❤️

Have you watched Pretend You Love Me? It's not only the best Joel Haver film, it's my favorite film on RU-vid, and maybe the most realistic of desperate loneliness I've ever seen.

@@altusshow7574 Yes! I loved it. It was the first one I watched, but "Taking a little time to feel sorry for myself" has got to be my favourite

This is it. I was trying to explain it to myself but couldn't quite figure it out. I wondered why Joel didn't finish what felt like a goodbye - "do you know how happy I was that I found you?" It wasn't a goodbye. It was just appreciation, and the statement of hope on its own: I know I can't fix this for you, but I'm still going to be here. I've had this moment when I try to explain my own issues and responsibilities to people. It makes me feel terrible - culture says love fixes everything, right? But it doesn't. The "you can't save me" speech. I have a tendency to get involved with people who have a lot of issues themselves - so there's me, the old man screaming in my face, the old man screaming in their face, and them. All of us trying to hold hands and get along. And yeah, maybe that's enough to end a relationship in its early stages. But I'm glad Joel has Joel to get them through, and I hope they come through better for it. Be excellent to each other.

You say I alot

@@n.b.oDippa what do you mean?

Same

...simp? Does this count?

gender norms more like gender suggestions

Same! Honestly more guys should try it, that shit is freeing

Mine’s my dad 🙃

Haiku?

@@zwoosh2288 You're right! It is a Haiku - wow, well spotted!

Zanta dude, you've excelled yourself - captured the spirit of this little film, the time passing, the water symbolism and the character arc in 17 syllables! I hope Joel spots this.

I think how raw the song feels makes it hit that much harder. Feels like your own personal soundtrack in your head.

C'mon you must feeling something

I don't know. I personally think it goes pretty Insaneo style.

Love you too❤️

asking the same question

also wondering this

Also also wondering why this is

Didn't take long to find a comment mentioning this lol

@@WiloPolis03 lol

I'm so sorry that happened to you man it really does hurt not getting any closure or semblance of what happened/changed in the relationship. Take your time and let yourself recover from this, its perfectly reasonable to feel frustrated, lost, desperate, numb, and any wild mix of emotions

I feel you man. It sucks when they act so cold during the break up. I went through that (honestly still going through it in some ways). No real closure, just that she didn’t love me anymore. It sucked, a part of me was excited to see what the next chapter of our lives would be. Like you, I had a big trip planned for us at the end of year… it made me question all the happy times we had together. I don’t know why I’m even writing this, I guess to let you know that you’re not alone, and that it’ll get better.

Ah man. Thats sucks. Hope you feel better soon :))

Damn dude. Head up and look after yourself, man. There's better things for you on the horizon. ❤️

She is a damn coward

No clue, was expecting AnCom to come screaming or some shit but no lmao

@@aaronl19 He probably added by mistake.

@@lifelongstudents233 either that or he likes this video so much that he snuck it into a popular playlist so more people would watch it

@@l.36125 Delightfully devilish, Seymour.