A Lot of People Don't Want to Win | James Butler Meets David Graeber 

So sad. David Graeber Rest In Power. ❤🌹

David, an imaginative thinker, will be missed.

Rest in power ❤️

As a nurse, I can only wholeheartedly agree with Mr Graeber's conclusions.

So true I did a job like that for 9 years

David was a great loss to humanity. Just re-reading through his books in the last few weeks reminds me what an intellectual giant he was. RIP.

Very brief, but a fascinating conversation.

Oh hells yeah. One my fave philosophical bigwigs in the house! Pretty much the reason I now follow Novara. Big love to Gaeber.

I just want to say I like the interviewer, obviously well-read and asks the right questions.

As I now chip in as a patron I demand more of this....pretty please.

Big love for Graber and Butler

Such a great mind.. Rest in Power

RIP David

Rest in power David

Rest in power 💔

anyone else watch Severance? its a fantastic surrealist presentation of these ideas but also some of the motivations for participating in the system (as a form of escapism, a opportunity for sadistic dominance, reverance for a great leader...)

I spent most of my life getting money in the streets and when a PO would force me to get a "real job" (W-2 job) it was pretty much always in food service, fast food and steak houses. Now I'm all "reformed" and shit and my job has so many layers of bs work it ain't even funny. Really there are there labor workers and necessary office workers who coordinate with things outside of the site and visiters and all that. But we have 2 massive front offices that do VERY little and 5 or so bosses between the laborer/office worker and the site "director", none of whom know what they're doing most of the time or are necessary. All that's really required to run the building is the labor workers, half or less of the office workers, 2 HR workers and 1 ELECTED supervisor that comes from the rank and file. We organize ourselves better than they ever could and most of the people there are redundant af. We could more than half the workforce, double the pay and come out more efficient and at a lower overhead. It's insanity. I love that the best critiques I've ever heard about our ideas are "you can't defend/sustain it" and "it's too much democracy". Defense is no longer really an argument as theory has evolved since the days that we saw that play out and has been accounted for (not to mention that even short lived communism is more than authoritarians have achieved, I don't want to sustain just anything for the sake of being sustainable) and I'll take autonomy over any alternative one may put forward any day of the week. So neither are really arguments and say a hell of a lot more about the person doing the critique than the proponent of freedom lol Ignorant or dishonest and lazy.

Totally true... I used to call them 'Gate - Keeping' jobs... 'Bull Shit Jobs' so much more apt

12 mins in it's rojova theyr're talking about yeah? he sort of mumbles it (as if it was pre-refferenced) ?

can someone source that 1992-2001 bureaucrats in russia stat? cant find anything on it!

People keep talking about working within the system, but when will they realize that the system is literally the problem and needs to be removed?

Where has Names Butler gone tho, haven't seen or heard him in a while

What place is he talking about that isn't a state?

David Graeber would totally wreck Jordan Peterson in a debate.

How do l get one of these jobs?

"A really strange change in the British left...we are from movements that have been historically skeptical about institutional politics, and of parties generally, and are...owning up to the fact that maybe we were a little too broad or categorical". No, that is just you and the rest of Novara media...

I liked the video but the title is irrelavant to what was discussed.

"Alienation is seperation from the product of your work but here there is no product." This sounds like the punchline of a joke but he meant it completely unironically lollll.

"the bullshit-isation of real work" is going to be my twitter bio now

Im anarchist individualist at least I say it to anybody

Who's going to pick the potatoes? Any takers?

james butler talks camp

💗..Up the careworkers!!! PS James, after the revolution middle class Mr right-ons will have to do lots of care work - that they secretly considered beneath them. Care work isn't working class women's work, it's everybody's..Or they can hand-make bricks for aesthetically pleasing, high quality pre-60s style social housing* in the gulag 😈 *#Nothings2Gd4TheWorkingClass

David doesn't look well :(

Seems so blatantly obvious the hypocrisy. Wtf are these guys going?!?

4:56 bullshitization

Graeber wrote some great books and essays .. Too bad he just passed away so suddenly