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We live in a capitalist world and that won't change but we need to make it fairer. We can't turn the clock back but we can shape the future for the better for all of us.
Michael is giving to much credence to capitalism, rather than just technology and better access to medicines and also the rise of trade unions, which appeared alongside the industrial revolution, demanded better safety standards.
I’m glad Aaron was there to correct Michael’s bizarre claims about capitalism and child mortality. Human ingenuity creates solutions… capitalism places constraints upon them. Child deaths before industrialisation were not needless because there was no other way to live. They only become needless once medical advances mean they could be avoided.
Capitalism is the cause of famine, wars and injustice. The end of capitalism does not, and I repeat, does not mean the end of freedon ! Freedon and capitalism are not synonymous - actually capitalism and imperealism are...
On child mortality: I think it’s only coincidental that capitalism became prominent at the same time we did things like public sewage and water projects, improvements in nutrition and medical knowledge.
I think you're wrong, Michael -- people coming out of poverty was not a goal of capitalism but a by-product of it because it needed to broaden the ever-expanding group of workers worldwide. Causation is key here. Capitalism has to exploit as many people as possible to fuel its voracious appetite.
"The masks are slipping literally ... we are entering a new era, an extremely dangerous era ... What is happening now in Gaza is the death of Europe in the sense of, you know, you talk to a Palestinian, he will tell you: 'Yes, European human rights are bombs which are dropping on us.'" - Slavoj Zizek
How do we know that standards of living for humans would not have been better, and almost certainly more egalitarian, if we had had a different economic system, such as socialism or communism, for the last 500 years?
