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A scene from the 1966 movie "A Man for All Seasons". Thomas More has been imprisoned for refusing to sign the Act of Succession recognizing Anny Boleyn's offspring as the legal heirs to the throne of England. Here he has been called before Secretary Cromwell, the Duke of Norfolk, and a bishop from the new Church of England. They try to get him to sign the Act, whether by threat or reason (Cromwell and the bishop) or by plea to friendship (Norfolk). More refuses to sign.

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@kaylarose1081
@kaylarose1081 2 года назад
"And when you are sent to heaven for doing your conscience and I am sent to hell for not doing mine, would you come with me -- for fellowship?"
@user-cr3ti1vj6f
@user-cr3ti1vj6f 16 дней назад
he was sent to hell for burning people alive, not because of his conscience
@johnfisher247
@johnfisher247 2 дня назад
A conscience can be malformed and so a following conscience is not enough. One has a duty to form and inform a moral conscience. So many today have malformed consciences.
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 3 года назад
When talking is elevated to a high art form .
@publiushamilton4030
@publiushamilton4030 3 года назад
Imagine that. Not an f-bomb or n-word in sight / earshot. Some current Hollywood scribes (including one highly overrated one in particular--I'm thinking of you, Q.T.) could learn a thing or two from watching this film.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 3 года назад
It is first in the WRITING, by Robert Bolt. Also did "Lawrence of Arabia". Paul Scofield knew how to make language live.
@gemmeliusgrammaticus2509
@gemmeliusgrammaticus2509 2 года назад
It’s called rhetoric.
@johnbryant6572
@johnbryant6572 2 года назад
Brilliant isent it using a voice has an amazing power.
@aegontargaryen9322
@aegontargaryen9322 3 года назад
Paul Schofield gave one of the best performances of all time in this production
@gardenvape4021
@gardenvape4021 9 месяцев назад
here, here…
@TheRjb2010
@TheRjb2010 3 года назад
“Some men think the Earth is round, others think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the King's command make it round? And if it is round, will the King's command flatten it? No, I will not sign.”
@kevinhockersmith8149
@kevinhockersmith8149 2 года назад
Tell the President that!
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
Tell Mark Sargent that as well 👍
@jessiejames7492
@jessiejames7492 2 года назад
seems like we are going through this now with pondering on whether the covid vaccine is safe or not. those in charge arent giving us answers as much as we need to know except take it and you will be protected. false promise . we are still getting it and spreadingit. but like sir thomas more we still have no choice not to take it . do or die
@gardenvape4021
@gardenvape4021 7 месяцев назад
…this is powerful stuff, for sure 👌
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 Год назад
This is what owning the stage looks like .
@robmaddison8645
@robmaddison8645 2 года назад
'Then I am not threatened'. Wow, the calm conviction which he spoke that line with brought a lump to my throat. The real hero's are moral men with true hearts.
@TheSnowballEarth
@TheSnowballEarth 13 лет назад
Thumbs up if this film is in your personal Top Ten!
@bradfordmiller4287
@bradfordmiller4287 Год назад
As far as I'm concerned, it's the greatest movie ever made. Great story, so witty, great acting on the part of everyone in it, great costumes - just a magnificent work of art.
@alexeton
@alexeton Год назад
The screenplay and acting in this movie is breathtaking,in my humble opinion the best in the history of cinema.
@martinbamba8681
@martinbamba8681 3 года назад
The silence of Thomas More speaks more
@jessiejames7492
@jessiejames7492 2 года назад
the silence was deafening
@fporretto
@fporretto 3 года назад
The Robert Bolt play of *_A Man for All Seasons_* is one of the greatest works of its kind -- and it was the basis for this production. It's been my favorite movie ever since I first saw it.
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
The remake with Charlton Heston was more of a comedy than a drama as I remember it.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 2 года назад
Yes, and of course Paul Scofield reprised his stage performance for this film, which rightly won him an Oscar.
@stravinsky1300
@stravinsky1300 9 месяцев назад
Sir Thomas More knows being calm is to his advantage. Having been a judge himself, he knows fully well what Cromwell is doing: trying to control the pace of the interrogation and fire pointed questions at him rapidly, to get him to make a slip that can be used against him. More knows his best defense against that is to be calm and collected. He also knows that while Cromwell may speak quickly, he can't control when (or if) More will answer, so More takes deliberate pauses to reduce the tension and choose his words with care.
@LordGreystoke
@LordGreystoke 19 дней назад
What does it matter?? More lost his head anyway, Yippee, he stayed true to his conscience and it cost him his life. Did the rest of Henry's staff ultimately give a damn?
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 14 дней назад
@@LordGreystoke Of course, it mattered. It is why we in the English-speaking world have a right to a jury trial, the right against self-incrimination, the right to remain silent, and why a conviction requires proof of our state of mind to be found guilty. As this scene shows, some men (Cromwell and Rich) will do anything to serve the King's interest, even it means violating the conscience of the accused (the Archbishop), while others will seek to placate the king in order to maintain their position (the Duke). Either way the result is depotism and tyranny. More's principled stand preserved the rule of law and constitutional government for later generations. Without More losing his head in this unjust manner, England could have reverted to absolute monarchy. It would take nearly a century but the English Civil War would establish Parliamentary supremacy when the English king would lose his head. Maybe what you fail to grasp is that sometimes preserving liberty requires self-sacrifice even martyrdom.
@AllenbysEyes
@AllenbysEyes 16 лет назад
This is my favorite scene of the movie. I performed it for several Forensics speech competitions (though I had to reduce my role to More, Cromwell and Norfolk). Some of the best dialogue ever written for any movie/play ever, and needless to say, great acting all around.
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
My favorite is 'Give the Devil Benefit of Law for my own safety'
@Pa-tk1dx
@Pa-tk1dx 21 день назад
Justice is what you are threatened with. Then I am not threatened. What a line!!!!
@OscarDeltaSierra
@OscarDeltaSierra Год назад
A.K.A: What happens when you vainly try to trick a trained attorney and highly-experienced judge into accidentally incriminating himself.
@frankg3rd1
@frankg3rd1 2 года назад
I wish the this movie were celebrated by the cable networks and scheduled to be aired often. " A Man for All Seasons" and the movie " Shane " to me are both visually and verbally my favorite of all time. Both were shown to me in the 3rd grade in 1976.....just amazing films.
@ohmightywez
@ohmightywez 9 месяцев назад
Catholic school? Once a month our nuns would walk us all to the church and we would watch a movie. Of course there were the saint movies, like this, and Becket and Song of Bernadette. But we also saw 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Pollyanna, The Voyages of Sinbad and dozens of others that I love to this day.
@frankg3rd1
@frankg3rd1 9 месяцев назад
@@ohmightywez Lol ! Yes...Catholic School ! Amazing that they were confident that these films would be enjoyed by 3rd graders lol !
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 2 года назад
Not being allowed books while imprisoned, wow. I certainly feel his pain!
@rsr789
@rsr789 9 месяцев назад
No internet either, proof that there is no god! 🤪
@milosbez
@milosbez 13 лет назад
"Thank you thomas, ive been trying to make that clear to his grace for quite some time"- hilarious!
@pbrazor50
@pbrazor50 3 года назад
I love the look on Cromwell's face when Norfolk says, "I don't know whether the marriage was lawful or not, . . ."
@jimstanga6390
@jimstanga6390 2 года назад
That was almost a ‘Monty Python’ moment…”Oh, yes, I suppose you’re right!”
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
@@pbrazor50 Norfolk's statement is bordering on treasonable - expressing doubt about the marriage.
@TruthLivesNow
@TruthLivesNow Год назад
@@stevekaczynski3793 ...come for fellowship sake...
@dseanmat
@dseanmat 14 лет назад
Thank you for posting this scene, which is a flawless example of great writing, directing, and acting!
@servicekid7453
@servicekid7453 2 года назад
These are terrors for children Master Secretary, not for me. What a badass Sir Thomas Moore was.... 😮
@integral
@integral 2 года назад
Jesus. The incredible talent in that room, working with such a brilliant script. Beyond words.
@JaimeGirl
@JaimeGirl 2 года назад
A master class in eloquence both on page and spoken word- just brilliant
@Anonymous-nn6ht
@Anonymous-nn6ht Год назад
A man of principles though passes away but his/her soul remains alive forever.
@barriolimbas
@barriolimbas 2 дня назад
All souls are forever. But the soul of the man of principles, is rewarded with everlasting glory and happiness.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
I'm not sure I'd have his guts. Not sure at all. It's one thing to admire him, quite another to step into his brave shoes.
@thibaud1832
@thibaud1832 7 месяцев назад
3:53 love this moment when the movie predicts the Internet: More makes an argument and the Archbishop immediately replies by interpreting what More said as the exact opposite of what More just said.
@jimstanga6390
@jimstanga6390 2 года назад
It’s interesting to note that the actors are of such stature that John Hurt is a background character…of course, this was early in his career…
@tomservo5347
@tomservo5347 2 года назад
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
@sparkyrunner4283
@sparkyrunner4283 2 года назад
Or a bunch of opotunistic judges and government officials that would sell their mothers into prostitution for some recognition !!!!
@Milordvega
@Milordvega 3 года назад
BRILLIANT. BRILLIANT DIALOGUE.
@AllenbysEyes
@AllenbysEyes 13 лет назад
I performed this scene for a Forensics Speech Competition senior year of high school. Did pretty well too. Thanks for uploading this, it's complete brilliance in writing/acting and brings back a lot of great memories.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
The courtier standing in the doorway to the chamber with a dance going on had tried earlier in the film to interest More in supporting him in a case, and was rebuffed.
@peterrollinson-lorimer
@peterrollinson-lorimer 21 день назад
Brilliant screenplay by Robert Bolt, CBE. When words such as these are given to actors such as those, it is no wonder at the Masterpiece that this is.
@prospero4183
@prospero4183 3 года назад
Rich is a slimey, I love an actor who can play the cowardly worm.
@baraxor
@baraxor 2 года назад
The historic Richard Rich, sharing a name with a comic book character, is really a true life comic book villain. He betrayed practically everyone who ever placed confidence in him, one after the other.
@erpollock
@erpollock 2 месяца назад
He played Caligula in I, Claudius.
@daveybalmer
@daveybalmer 3 года назад
If only we could have this precision of language from all of our governmental officials instead of the often empty rhetoric now relentlessly and mercilessly inflicted....
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
It takes good education to be able to think this well. The US Education has gone down hill since the Government took it over
@Mourtzouphlos240
@Mourtzouphlos240 2 года назад
@@55Quirll I take it you both do not remember George W Bush and do not know that until he ran for public office, had never set foot in a public school.
@Mourtzouphlos240
@Mourtzouphlos240 2 года назад
Liberal Democracies have always existed upon empty rhetoric. A slave owning rapist who did not see Native Americans as people and wasn't elected by any modern definition of "the people" said "all men are created equal."
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
@@Mourtzouphlos240 I remember that idiot, surprised he was elected twice and could put two sentences together 👍
@Charles-ij1ow
@Charles-ij1ow Год назад
Dam this is fire, surprised it's not more popular.
@bradfordmiller4287
@bradfordmiller4287 Год назад
Consider mankind.
@andrewg.carvill4596
@andrewg.carvill4596 Год назад
It's disturbingly challenging: In what evils might I be acquiescing, because 'everyone accepts it' ?
@everettamador9885
@everettamador9885 3 года назад
Cromwell just wanted to make Moore's life a living hell....Cause he was wielding power...
@newperve
@newperve 3 года назад
It's more than that, Crime may be powerful but he's vulnerable. Of the previous 2 chancellors one was about to be sent to the tower when he died and the other is in the tower. If things endded badly he could face the axe (spoilers he did). The King was getting impatient.
@patty1094
@patty1094 17 дней назад
"More"....not Moore
@michaelmckay3179
@michaelmckay3179 3 года назад
This man, Thomas more, sought every legal avenue to avoid his execution, but in the end, man's law is not.long enough for us to keep.within Gods. Thus at the end of all our lives we must choose God's law over mans
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
Unfortunately, like he said, if we break God's law than God should arrest us, but with man's law it is left to man and his faculities for his protection 👍
@LivingWatersUtube
@LivingWatersUtube 2 года назад
Confer Thomas More's conversation with Roper about the necessity of human laws, "England is planted thick with them", in this world.
@bradfordmiller4287
@bradfordmiller4287 Год назад
I look at it as a classical tragedy. More's downfall was that he believed that the law would save him. I'd have whispered in his ear: "If the powers that be want to get you, they will - damn Magna Carta and the King's Coronation Oath." I would have advised him simply to attend the wedding, not giving it his blessing, but simply attending it as the King's friend. As he said at his trial: "The world must construe according to it's wits." If people wanted to believe that by attending the wedding he was giving iy his blessing, so be it, but it wouldn't be true.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
@@bradfordmiller4287 I don't know that he believed the law would save him - after all, swearing to the act was the law. At the same time I don't think he was courting martyrdom. People tried to stay within the law while following their religious beliefs - for example, in the 17th century Catholics in London often queued up to attend mass in foreign embassies of Catholic states. As foreign territory mass could be celebrated in them, while illegal in England itself. It was all a very narrow tightrope.
@bradfordmiller4287
@bradfordmiller4287 Год назад
@@stevekaczynski3793 - On the contrary, not only in this scene but throughout the movie More states his case that he has done nothing for which he can be harmed. His legal stance is impeccable, right up until the end. The only grounds for them condemning him is the perjury of Richard Rich and the sham of a trial. As a brilliant attorney, he believed that the law would protect hin, and it was his downfall.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
The tension between Cromwell and Norfolk is apparent.
@mattb9310
@mattb9310 7 месяцев назад
They should have asked More about modifying / rewriting the Act, in order to find out which part he was opposed to. Or at least focus on this aspect for a while longer. I doubt it would have worked though
@akosigundam
@akosigundam 14 лет назад
Wow, all three Thomases together!!!
@Mpshfromlowell64
@Mpshfromlowell64 4 года назад
Four, actually.... Cranmer, Cromwell, More, and Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk. More often addresses his friend the Duke as “Howard”.....
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
Exceptionally common name at the time, mainly because of Thomas Becket. Resenting his defiance of an earlier king, Henry VIII later ordered Becket's tomb in Canterbury to be demolished and Becket's remains destroyed.
@GeraldWilson-pe7dn
@GeraldWilson-pe7dn 16 дней назад
The story of St. Thomas More is truly astounding because it about a man who understood that one's immortal soul has an eternal destiny based upon what he must choose in this life, that is for good or evil. Thomas More refused to sign the Oath of Supremacy of his King because to do so would be to give his approval to King Henry as head of the Anglican Church of England after the break with the Pope in Rome. Thomas More was threatened, imprisoned, and even his own family pleaded with him to change his mind but Thomas More knew that to do what was morally right is all that mattered. If only in this day our modern leaders and politicians would follow the same way that St. Thomas More did!! Pray for us St. Thomas More you truly are a man for all seasons!! 🙏
@emameyer
@emameyer 3 года назад
"some men think the earth is round, some other think it's flat" sadly, this is still true today...
@larryparis925
@larryparis925 Год назад
Elites typically suffer at the hands of other elites.
@nicholaswestley9851
@nicholaswestley9851 7 месяцев назад
Richard Rich was a toad for all seasons.
@thegreatselkie6009
@thegreatselkie6009 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely!!!
@gallantgallstone1100
@gallantgallstone1100 6 месяцев назад
No better slave, no worse master.
@davidweihe6052
@davidweihe6052 15 дней назад
The “Man For All Seasons” was Sir Thomas’s butler who had to be released from More’s service and ended up as his headsman.
@Occident.
@Occident. 15 дней назад
Brilliantly played by John Hurt. The greatest of all English actors.
@nicholaswestley9851
@nicholaswestley9851 15 дней назад
Richard Rich went on to be the 1st Baron Rich and one of his great grandchildren Robert Rich became the 2nd Earl of Warwick. From contemporary sources we know that Richard Rich was despised by those around him, but that may have been due to his close association with Thomas Cromwell. Robert Rich became a distinguished naval officer and fought for the Parliamentarians during the English civil war.
@nickmedley4749
@nickmedley4749 Год назад
It’s strange how some still think that St. Thomas More was a bad man. He was truly a saintly man.
@kevinyin2663
@kevinyin2663 Год назад
His enthusiasm for the murder of English Protestants does not strike me as saintly
@nickmedley4749
@nickmedley4749 Год назад
@@kevinyin2663 He did interrogate multiple Protestants in his home, but he never tortured them or was enthusiastic about the murder of Protestants. It was an unfounded claim against him that there is no evidence for. If he had, the Anglican Church would have never declared him a saint in the 1980s.
@eoinMB3949
@eoinMB3949 7 месяцев назад
It doesn't surprise me that there's a campaign to muddy his name. The devil hates the saints and of course those who belong to him will do whatever they can to discredit st. Thomas
@santijauregui459
@santijauregui459 3 месяца назад
@@kevinyin2663the Protestants killed Catholics with glee as well wheresoever they had the power to do so. Such were the times.
@DanBeech-ht7sw
@DanBeech-ht7sw 3 месяца назад
Who had Christians killed for reading their Bibles
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 12 лет назад
St Thomas More, pray for us
@LordTalax
@LordTalax 4 года назад
Are you incapable of praying to the invisible sky man?
@DMCK2000
@DMCK2000 3 года назад
@@LordTalax pls leave athcuck
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
Saint Thomas more, pray for us!
@davidpnewton
@davidpnewton Год назад
Whilst More was murdered and indeed martyred, that sort of language is the kind of thing that prompted the reformation and shows the very real problems with the church of the period and its doctrinal descendent. In Christian theology Jesus is the intermediary and no other is needed. Thomas More is dead. No one who is dead can "pray for us" any more than anyone who has not yet been born can "pray for us". If you want someone to pray for you then ask a living person to do so. Otherwise pray yourself. The dead cannot pray for you. You cannot pray for the dead and have it be anything but empty, useless words. Once you're dead your fate is determined. There is no such thing as purgatory in correct Christian theology. That is simply a heretical invention of Medieval individuals who forgot sola scriptura. Purgatory, indulgences, worship of idols in reliquaries and worship of idols as statues carried around in parades were the biggest things that triggered the reformation.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 Год назад
@@davidpnewton Jesus literally picked 12 men to be intermediaries
@Findo_Gask
@Findo_Gask Год назад
Three Thomases question a Thomas. And even Wolsey was a Thomas! Good job they're not all on first name terms. Could get confusing.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
Not very many Christian names at the time in England. Thomas, Edward, John, Richard or James must have constituted the vast majority of them. And James had a certain Scottish flavour to it.
@transonicbuoy1
@transonicbuoy1 14 лет назад
The voice is a wonder, because it isn`t public school. It isn`t sloane ranger, it isn`t BBC, it isn`t posh, it`s not even what folk would call classical. Unique and much missed.
@spasjt
@spasjt 15 лет назад
OH JUSTICE IS WHAT YOU'RE THREATENED WITH!!!!!!! Then I'm not threatened....... LOL!!!!! Brilliant!!!!!
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 11 месяцев назад
Your and you're are different words with different meanings.
@spasjt
@spasjt 11 месяцев назад
@@slappy8941 It sure is. 👍
@francisconsole3892
@francisconsole3892 3 года назад
All the sycophants surrounding a monstrous excuse for a king. Nothing new under the sun.
@Gunleaver
@Gunleaver 10 месяцев назад
I love how Rich is in the background just so they have someone in the room whose name is not "Thomas."
@patty1094
@patty1094 17 дней назад
HAHA... excellent observation. Too funny. 😄
@plharn
@plharn 13 лет назад
@richo61 Well this is a movie based on a play. It is, of course, going to have a protagonist and be told from a character's perspective--hardly propaganda. It is also misleading to say he executed people for reading the bible in English. His issues were with what he saw as inaccurate translations with the Tyndale Bible. As Lord Chancellor there were six heretics put to death, but this was hardly an uncommon practice for heresy at the time for Protestants or Catholics. Think Calvin.
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 3 года назад
Oh don't you just hate it when the great ones make it look so easy .
@bartsanders1553
@bartsanders1553 8 месяцев назад
And Cromwell lived happily ever after, serving the King to a very old age and being held in high esteem by Henry till the day he died.
@khalidcabrero6204
@khalidcabrero6204 8 месяцев назад
Cromwell was executed only five years later. It was Richard Rich who lived to a ripe old age.
@bartsanders1553
@bartsanders1553 8 месяцев назад
@@khalidcabrero6204 Dude! Spoilers!😂
@joehopper7373
@joehopper7373 2 года назад
And here, gentlemen, we see the patron saint of politicians doing good service to his position.
@ijunkie
@ijunkie 3 года назад
Can't be outwitted. Don't even try
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 года назад
3:40 Although it's a great response, I'm surprised More would admit that it's his conscience that's preventing him from signing the Act of Succession. And I'm equally surprised that Cromwell didn't make anything of it.
@Turinos92
@Turinos92 3 года назад
I think the fact that he placed Norfolk in heaven and he not, threw Cromwell off. Also, he doesn't explicitly say that it is his conscience that is prohibiting him, but more a retort at Norfolk's suggestion to go along with an act, regardless of the moral implications, for the sake of fellowship in the act; using a bit of an extreme example to prove the point.
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 года назад
@@Turinos92 More *specifically* says that if he swore to the Act he would not be following his conscience.
@Turinos92
@Turinos92 3 года назад
@@ppuh6tfrz646 No, he implies that. The film informs us that its an important legal distinction, exemplified when Cromwell catches that More has an objection (through More's use of the word objection, similar to the use of the word conscience in this situation), Norfolk correctly assumes that More does, and More replies that they need more than assumption for why he won't sign; he needs to say it clearly and directly so that there cannot be any doubt that he has an objection. This is especially important given the seriousness of the penalty for objecting, and More's position as Chancellor. You are indeed correct that he views it as an issue of conscience, but Cromwell cannot assume anything, no matter how closely More's language flirts with outright objection.
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 года назад
@@Turinos92 No. More says in response to a request that he swear to the Act that he will not be doing his conscience. He specifically says that. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm not wasting any more time discussing this as you're denying something that is clearly there onscreen.
@Bersztipflag
@Bersztipflag 3 года назад
@@ppuh6tfrz646 No, More never says that if he swears to the Act he would go against his consciensce. What he says is that if he does not follow his conscience he will go to hell, unlike Norfolk who in following his conscience will go to heaven. As is clearly explained by Turinos92. I perfectly follow what you are talking about, and will not waste any more time arguing with someone going against clear evidence.
@danielgorrell4299
@danielgorrell4299 2 года назад
I love Thomas so much!
@user-yp2gj7wf9b
@user-yp2gj7wf9b Год назад
Me too
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 Год назад
Well, that was edifying - now, back to TikTok and ‘’The Kardashians”marathon...
@TheDaveParky
@TheDaveParky 2 года назад
Beauty and grace
@mercian7
@mercian7 3 года назад
Any Person that wishes to vote should watch this Film
@Eshayzbra96
@Eshayzbra96 Месяц назад
The acting and dialogue is suburb
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 11 дней назад
Awesome film 🎥
@geertdecoster5301
@geertdecoster5301 Месяц назад
Norfolk should have said, yes, I'll keep you company there too
@rupertcordeux6479
@rupertcordeux6479 Год назад
I wonder if that short dance tune has a name. I would love to hear it properly.
@jessiejames7492
@jessiejames7492 2 года назад
this particular scene brings mind sir humphrey on YES MINISTER. hIS long monologues. so funny
@narmale
@narmale 14 дней назад
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, I must express in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to the newly instituted practice which imposes severe and intolerable restrictions on the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy and will, in all probability, should the current deplorable innovation be perpetuated, precipitate a progressive constriction of the channels of communication, culminating in a condition of organisational atrophy and administrative paralysis, which will render effectively impossible the coherent and co-ordinated discharge of the function of government within Her Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland! Hacker: You mean you've lost your key? such a great series
@rsinclair6560
@rsinclair6560 Год назад
The individual vs the State. You have the RIGHT to remain silent.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
Not in that era. You also had no right to a defence lawyer although More was a lawyer and so could defend himself. You could refuse to plead, but that could result in having weights placed on your chest until you pled or were crushed to death.
@avemaria7147
@avemaria7147 Год назад
Es una bellísima película solo que m gustaría la traducirán en español felicidades x compartirla gracias
@erpollock
@erpollock 2 месяца назад
Sign in the name of fellowship! Smarmy.
@daveybalmer
@daveybalmer Год назад
It is unfortunate Sir Thomas Moore should be so sure of the conditions under which a person could be guaranteed of a place either in heaven or in hell. Because of his surety, many non-believers, under his orders, were burned at the stake. I would like to think that he did ultimately find himself in hell but the entire premise was of course nonsense and despite his beliefs and oratory, he, like everyone, never experienced either. . . .
@JDimitrius433
@JDimitrius433 Месяц назад
2:38 the LAW requires that you COOPERATE with the investigation! they want to understand, help them, all else is detrimental to the state
@ushoys
@ushoys 3 года назад
“Find me 11,780 votes”
@martthesling
@martthesling 3 года назад
Expect Democrats use voter fraud.🤷‍♂️
@Gorboduc
@Gorboduc 2 года назад
Rumpole is so much nicer when he's representing the defense.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
The actor played an obnoxious medical officer who is a prosecution witness in "King And Country", a film made a few years earlier.
@ijunkie
@ijunkie 3 месяца назад
At the end "the king's conscience" is a euphemism for the Lord Chancellor, i.e. Sir Thomas More.
@NearVSMello
@NearVSMello 13 лет назад
@richo61 No one from this time was cuddly. When judging the character of a historical figure it is unfair not to consider the times he was brought up in - whether or not brutality and murder was socially commonplace.
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 года назад
Cardinal Wolsey was fat and cuddly.
@patty1094
@patty1094 17 дней назад
@@ppuh6tfrz646 Orson Welles was fat, but not cuddly
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 16 дней назад
@@patty1094 I was being kind.
@patty1094
@patty1094 16 дней назад
@@ppuh6tfrz646 😆
@josepsolemir3365
@josepsolemir3365 2 года назад
Saint Thomas more, pray for us!
@akosigundam
@akosigundam 13 лет назад
@kristina919: Good lord, no! What's with these 16th century Englishmen and their fixation for the name "Thomas"?
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 года назад
It was a popular name in England because of Thomas Becket. However Henry VIII disliked the fact that Becket had defied the king of his day and arranged for Becket's bones to be dug up and shot from a cannon.
@Grace-hc6dn
@Grace-hc6dn Год назад
Saint Thomas More 🙏for us.
@avemaria7147
@avemaria7147 Год назад
Hola México estraudinaria película pero en México no todos sabemos inglés nos gustaría doblada al español ya que es una vida ejemplar para padecer x nuestra patria mexicana y como hijos de Dios gracias x subir el vídeo
@LordTalax
@LordTalax Год назад
Burrito
@josephmcquillen6840
@josephmcquillen6840 Год назад
Will you come with me for fellowship?
@tomdumb6937
@tomdumb6937 2 года назад
The Priest in red was the white guardian in Dr Who...
@deezmemes126
@deezmemes126 2 года назад
Nice!
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
It’s the archbishop
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
Cranmer had Lutheran tendencies but Henry never went full Protestant and Cranmer had to navigate around that. After Henry's death Cranmer was able to be among the leaders of the Protestant Reformation in England because the young Edward VI and more important, his advisers were inclined that way, but when Mary came to the throne an attempt was made to return to Catholicism and Cranmer was executed.
@ewancummins4975
@ewancummins4975 3 года назад
No educated person in Christendom thought the Earth was flat. But we can forgive anachronisms in such fine writing.
@ewancummins4975
@ewancummins4975 3 года назад
@Doc Adam Does the OT refer to the Earth as a sphere? I can't recall anything like that, but I hardly look to the OT for such information, so I could easily have missed it. I was referring instead to Hellenistic science. Knowledge of the Earth's basic shape was never lost once it became the standard model.
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 года назад
Then its a good thing he didn't say "educated," huh? I don't see this as an anachronism.
@zacharycat603
@zacharycat603 3 года назад
More at one point uses an outdated analogy - surely no educated person in his day still thought the earth could be flat (if educated people ever believed that).
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 года назад
Umm... tons of educated people believed that. The heliocentric system and the nature of our world as a globe did not always have wide acceptance, though it was a theory that many scientists had long before Galileo (he just popularized it, and had the tools to better demonstrate it); however, astronomy is not the only branch of science, and there were and possibly are countless people whose educations, perhaps focused on philosophy or biology, never showed them the roundness of the earth. And if we went back to the 15th and 16th century, when Thomas lived (pre-Galileo, mind you), some would say that the earth is flat and some would say it's round.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
@@5quepasa I don't think educated people did, but they were less than 10% of the population.
@franceleeparis37
@franceleeparis37 3 года назад
First mistake Thomas made... by stating he had books...
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
I don't think it was a mistake, he was trying to see what Cromwell would do, when he denied him to see his family he got his answer. He would do anything to convict Thomas.
@franceleeparis37
@franceleeparis37 2 года назад
@@55Quirll I doubt it… Cromwell was being outclassed at every turn because Thomas had a mind like a razor.. this could only be attributed to him keeping himself updated.. we do not know what books Thomas was reading, but I am pretty sure it would have been law books.. Cromwell wanted to destroy Thomas will to live.. that’s my take anyway… 😏
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
@@franceleeparis37 More wrote a book in the Tower. He seems to have had at least some access to pen and paper.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
Cromwell is frustrated by his resistance, and it is an opportunity to make More's prison conditions harsher, even if inflicting torture is impossible.
@LordTalax
@LordTalax 6 дней назад
What was that awkwardness at 1:21?
@freyasslain2203
@freyasslain2203 Месяц назад
Thomas More was executed in 1535 . And now , it is 2024 , Thomas More is more beloved today , than ever before That screams volumes.
@robertmcginness4610
@robertmcginness4610 2 года назад
Vaccines now what comes next
@ngqabuthomafu6517
@ngqabuthomafu6517 4 года назад
"so weigh a doubt against a certainty and sign"? What does that mean what is he saying?
@pbrazor50
@pbrazor50 3 года назад
He is comparing Moore's supposed doubts causing him not to sign the oath, with his definite and certain loyalty Moore owes to his King, and arguing that the certain duty of loyalty outweighs Moore's doubts. Therefore he argues that Moore should decide the matter based on the one certainty -- that Moore has a duty to be loyal to the KIng and sign the oath. It is actually a very subtle argument.
@NYCZ31
@NYCZ31 3 года назад
Imagine a scale where one's doubt is on one plate while certainty is on the other plate. "Certainty would certainly outweigh doubt," is what the bishop is suggesting.
@ngqabuthomafu6517
@ngqabuthomafu6517 3 года назад
@@pbrazor50 tHank you
@ngqabuthomafu6517
@ngqabuthomafu6517 3 года назад
@@NYCZ31 Thank you
@ngqabuthomafu6517
@ngqabuthomafu6517 3 года назад
@@NYCZ31 thank you
@raduionescu9765
@raduionescu9765 3 года назад
ALL TRUE SAINTS WHO FULFILL THE 10 DIVINE LAWS AND LOVE COMMUNICATION SINCERELY WITH GOD WE HAVE MUCH TO EARN INCLUDING ETERNAL AND HAPPY LIFE IN HIS HOLY KINGDOM
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
For my own safety sake, I will give the devil benefit of law!
@raduionescu9765
@raduionescu9765 2 года назад
@@55Quirll PANDEMIC VIRUSES AND MANY CELEBRATES MANY SUPERNATURAL PUNISHMENTS ARE CLEAR SIGNS THAT DIVINE JUSTICE EXISTS AND THAT JUDGMENT IS COMING
@55Quirll
@55Quirll 2 года назад
@@raduionescu9765 Divine justice given to those who have done nothing wrong? Sounds like a politician to me. Only wants those who vote for him and eliminates those who don't or have never heard of them.
@AllenbysEyes
@AllenbysEyes 13 лет назад
@AllenbysEyes Didn't realize I'd already commented on this. LOL
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 года назад
LOL...
@thedukeofswellington1827
@thedukeofswellington1827 2 года назад
Why in gods name would you get into high office if your not.willing to bear false witness
@RichardTLDR
@RichardTLDR Месяц назад
Shame the real man was not as good.
@larky368
@larky368 3 года назад
Acting? Plot?? Dialogue??? What kind of a movie is this anyways?
@dannyhmmcup
@dannyhmmcup 3 года назад
Its no Transformers, that much I do know.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 12 лет назад
@rrdab1 u r completely mistaken. as usual. Notice how u didnt mention any law he broke. ST Thomas More, patron of politicians, pray for us. FYI i have his picture on my wall at home. peace
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 Год назад
To my ear, Paul Scofield’s accent sounds very much like Stan Laurel’s.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
They both had roots in northern England.
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 Год назад
@@stevekaczynski3793 - Ha! That would explain it...always thought Stan Laurel was a South Londoner.
@phwbooth
@phwbooth 4 месяца назад
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Stan Laurel was born in Ulverston, north Lancashire.
@robertfield5904
@robertfield5904 15 дней назад
Deute. 18:10-14, 1 Timothy 1:9-10,
@chopin65
@chopin65 4 года назад
Apart from Henry VIII, we only know of one other man who was as devoted to his principles, and he lost his head for it. The Lesson: there is no loyalty worse than being a king's man.
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 2 года назад
Rather than have More executed, why couldn't Henry simply have had him imprisoned for a certain number of years, after the controversy surrounding the Act of Secession had calmed down or been settled? Okay, imprisonment for life, had Henry opted for that. It seems to me, however, that exiling More from England permanently would've been sufficient, unless the king feared the Chancellor's going to the pope & causing additional havoc. Would More have given-in had Henry threatened to wipe-out his once-loyal servant's entire family? Surely, Thomas knew Henry was fully capable of such a heinous act, had the threat been made. Perhaps the monarch feared that allowing More to live, even if imprisoned, would inspire others to resist, I don't know. As I've said before, the man was brilliant, brave, pious, & heroically moral but to what end? Yes, I know what Catholic theology teaches, and More was nothing if not a devout Catholic, a highly-educated man of Scripture, I just think he ultimately was selfish---again, regarding his family. He easily could've communicated with his God, knowing the Supreme Being would know his true feelings on the subject but, for his family's sake, he had to sign. In short, God knew where More stood. If the latter still was troubled by this, he could've prayed for forgiveness privately for the rest of his life. This was the route you should've taken, Thomas, good man that you were, in my opinion.
@brianellis1247
@brianellis1247 2 года назад
The clue is in earlier scenes. When the king arrives in the boat at the start of the movie his image is first reflected in the water. Later on the church tower is reflected in the water of a river. In both these shots the camera holds on these reflections for several seconds. This was done to symbolise that the power the king and church held is an image, a reflection that must be held to be effective. If Henry did not get More to sign it would weaken this image of power and therefore his position.
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 2 года назад
@@brianellis1247 Good observation. Don't think I ever picked up on it.
@Regfife
@Regfife Год назад
In general Christian theology, but the first commandment is "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength", not "protect your family at all costs". There's also the scripture which More paraphrases later, "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" If he signed the oath, then that would show his "true feelings" were that he'd say anything to save his neck and/or that of his family. Even though lives were at stake, it's still a short-term gain compared to the prospects of eternity. I'm not Catholic, but I can respect Sir Thomas More being loyal to his God and his own word rather than cave into people pressuring him for petty reasons.
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 Год назад
​@@Regfife You make good points. Yes, More was admirable. Following one's conscience is a noble & wonderful thing but can be taken to unnecessary extremes. His family aside, his death accomplished little, having no effect whatsoever on Henry's policies. I know More was a brilliant lawyer & theologian but he could've resigned & retired or secretly sent his family overseas into hiding, joining them later, or something. Could he have done such a thing? No he could not, which was a pity.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад
More was well known abroad and his former position as Chancellor aggravated his offence in the eyes of the King. Keeping people in jail for a long time sometimes happened - it happened to Norfolk, for example. But basically the King felt he had to frighten anyone who refused to swear to the act. Bishop Fisher also refused, and the Pope made him a Cardinal, presumably in an attempt to save his life. Henry is reported to have said that Fisher would not have a head to wear the Cardinal's hat, and he was beheaded. Carthusian monks who refused to swear were hanged, drawn and quartered, again an attempt to intimidate those who might think of defiance. It largely worked - the Catholic-inclined, like Norfolk, mostly swore to the act and hoped for better times.
@rh9477
@rh9477 6 месяцев назад
That little punk in the corner is thinking about trading his soul for wales
@stevenlight5006
@stevenlight5006 Год назад
Oo how religion destroys all
@richo61
@richo61 13 лет назад
Excellent propaganda - but Thomas Moore also had people executed for owning or reading the bible in English. Google "Tyndale Bible"
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
richo61 Well this is a movie based on a play. It is, of course, going to have a protagonist and be told from a character's perspective--hardly propaganda. It is also misleading to say he executed people for reading the bible in English. His issues were with what he saw as inaccurate translations with the Tyndale Bible. As Lord Chancellor there were six heretics put to death, but this was hardly an uncommon practice for heresy at the time for Protestants or Catholics. Think Calvin.
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
@Rhys Hoffman Saint Thomas Mores Accuser wrote this 20 years after his More's Death. He was also A Biased protestant under Elizabeth's Regime. The Catholic Decided Mor'es a saint. so he is.
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 года назад
Googled it. Well, seeing as teaching a heresy in the Catholic Church is the equivalent of opening the door to hell and guiding others through, it sounds like Tyndale and the rest got off easy. It is entirely off base to state that it was simply for having an English bible when the translation was clearly written to attack the Catholic Church, and Tyndale intentionally altered specific terms to counter established doctrine.
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 3 года назад
Still a great movie, still compelling but perhaps not as impressive as it once seemed. Sir Thomas More, as portrayed by Mr. Scofield, is rather annoying in his stubborness & obstinacy. Although he demonstrates the conviction of his morals, the issue-in-question now comes-off as much-ado about nothing. He should've signed the Act of Succession, plain & simple. Despite More's professed-loyalty to both God & his own personal-conscience, it wasn't worth his being-executed for them. Of course, the man performed nobly and heroically but his actions changed neither English-history nor King Henry's crimes & destructive, duplicitous, murderous path not one-whit. And More brought such anguish to his loving wife & family, leaving them distraught & devastated. Oh, Thomas, Thomas, why did you have to be so perfect?
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 3 года назад
@glyn hodges Horrid, atrocious stuff, to be sure. In the end, one has to admire both More & Prynne, despite their unbending(dare I say unreasonable, stubbornness. Back in those times, any variance from the "norm", i.e., the King's explicit-will, was deemed highly-dangerous & destabilizing. Nationwide conformity was everything. It's just unfathomable how cruel punishments could be. In recent times, I've come to wonder more about the men who actually carried-out these barbaric-acts than viewing them abstractly & invisibly as simply administering the "king's justice". How could anyone be so cruel to fellow human-beings? It's just sickening.
@rpranger6115
@rpranger6115 2 года назад
Yeah, so annoying! Refusing to do what you know is wrong. What a cunt! Why couldn't he be like everyone else and sign it, for fellowship? Wait, I think he answered that, in this very scene. Judgements are different if you believe in a real Heaven, a real Hell, and that you're sent to one or the other according to whether you follow your conscience or not.
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
No, sir Thomas more made the right choice. king Henry the VIII was putting his laws over God and he was overstepping his role as king. Saint Thomas more!!!
@jackbuckley7816
@jackbuckley7816 2 года назад
@@dwightschrute900 I understand your point, abstractly-speaking. Regrettably, though, the man, More, changed/accomplished nothing.
@dwightschrute900
@dwightschrute900 2 года назад
@@jackbuckley7816 To the human perspective, I suppose it meant nothing, although from the Catholic Churche's view, Sir Thomas more was rewarded
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