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Time is often used in palaeoanthropology as a replacement for morphology and anatomy where understanding human evolution is concerned. In this lecture, Prof. Berger explores the use of the absolute age of fossils in questions of phylogeny, and where the age of a fossil is important, and where it is not so important in interpreting and understanding human evolution.
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The muddle in the middle Pleistocene
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Комментарии : 61   
@drjohntas
@drjohntas 4 года назад
What an incredibly dynamic discipline this is.
@whattalks
@whattalks 3 года назад
Yeah, so dynamic they willfully ignore the simplest, most plausible, most evidence-based idea on bipedal origins for decades in order to continue the myth that outsiders like Elaine Morgan were wrong.
@drjohntas
@drjohntas 3 года назад
Elaine Morgan was a brave and exciting thinker. As a person from a Welsh family I am naturally proud of her contribution and agree she holds a place in the history of human evolutionary debate... but times have moved along and paleoanthropology has taken huge strides including the analysis of paleo-environments and hominin diet.I believe that hominins evolved in a forest/savannah environment. Scientists must, by definition, relinquish their favourite paradigms when the weight of emerging evidence taps them on the shoulder. It is no insult to Elaine that she is now viewed as a valuable contributor, but that her aquatic ape ideas, though popular in their time, have probably had their day.
@copperhorse4515
@copperhorse4515 3 года назад
These lecture never get old. There are so many more discoveries to be made. Dr. Berger shares his wealth of knowledge and discoveries in such a wonderful way. If only we could go back in time to meet all our relatives! I would love to gaze upon their faces!
@mikeblast7507
@mikeblast7507 3 года назад
Dr Berger is the best. Unlike a lot of his contemporaries, he rigorously applies the scientific method and doesn't present speculation as fact, nor does he engage in technically unsupported anthropomorphism. He unabashedly lays out the shortcomings of the fossil record and the difficulties in arriving at any hard and fast conclusions, while presenting the possibilities for what they are: possibilities. Too many of these guys are more intent on making the next news cycle with totally unsubstantiated, nearly hysterical claims (e.g., "Naledi buried their dead!") than taking a cold-eyed look at the scant evidence. Of course, that's how they try to scare up grants, as well as by creating false controversies with others in their field who benefit as well (the veritable self-licking ice cream cone). Keep the science coming Dr. Berger!
@juliebec3406
@juliebec3406 4 года назад
Very interesting and thought provoking about there not being a definitive progress of evolution in time 🤔
@owl6218
@owl6218 4 года назад
wow, video and sound editing also by prof.berger...
@caseyjude5472
@caseyjude5472 4 года назад
Wonderful animations! Really helped me understand better. Thanks for this series.
@w4rsh1p
@w4rsh1p 4 года назад
Another awesome video. I loved the analogy and then the fossils filled out in the chart.
@mogenscamre3762
@mogenscamre3762 4 года назад
Thank you - I really enjoy these
@abdoolmoron6430
@abdoolmoron6430 3 года назад
Awesome presentation. Thank you Dr. Berger.
@j-mo2453
@j-mo2453 2 года назад
I think dating is critical to trace geneolgies, but doesn’t define them. What species or subspecies or hybridization isn’t explained by the date. But to know they existed at that time is to me very advantageous to addressing morphology. Our acceptance that multiple variants carried on with considerably less developed traits is only indicative because it is dated. Now the critical aspects of studying morphology is not linear. That was wrong. It was branching and both isolating as well as overlapping. Widely varying traits among them and far greater diversity. I totally agree that erectus has been largely misclassified. By current standards we would differentiate considerably. Dating caused the inclusive perceptions of one distinct species in linear theories we used to accept more widely, but were wrong. Thanks to people like you who research morphology and refer to those dates, we move forward with far better understanding. Dating by itself reveals nothing. Examination does. Dates are something critical to examine, but no more important than physiology, location, artifacts and strata. A new glory hog in genetic research replaces carbon dating. Both in what we can extract and extrapolate from increasing older samples as well as the genomes of sapiens and Neanderthal etc. homo erectus is on that bucket list to extract dna and they did exist into the timelines we have extracted. Could even be enough to complete a genome for them. The hitches. It’s amalgamated and fairly recent comparatively. Example is Neanderthal genome. Its just a model. It’s as theoretical as morphology as multiple samples from multiple places and times piece together what is in truth a sort of generalized chimera of the species. It does though indicate admixtures and common ancestries. Not the uncommon ones. Nonetheless I think very promising to add to examinations. Erectus will probably be divided in that process and reveal anomalies that are not erectus but someone else.
@j-mo2453
@j-mo2453 2 года назад
You do a great job communicating with enthusiasm and relaying to people like me that are dependent upon you for our generalized perceptions of archaic humanity in all its forms. Enjoy the content very much. Thank you.
@maibanez
@maibanez 3 года назад
more of this kind of videos, love it
@ericvulgate
@ericvulgate 4 года назад
we should keep in mind there was always introgression between these various species, muddying the waters even further.
@garthmitchell7920
@garthmitchell7920 3 года назад
Excellent content.
@whattalks
@whattalks 3 года назад
Lee uses the word "species" so much in this talk a listener might assume we knew what a species was. The truth is it's blurry to define even in extant forms, let alone from tiny fragments of skeletal remains from millions of years ago. Perhaps a little scepticism on the well-known vanity-driven classification of fossils rather then the relatively precise dating of them might be in order.
@raccoonresident5760
@raccoonresident5760 4 года назад
I've found a fossil in my yard......what's really cool about it is it has a tooth mark deep into it.....which is why it took me a while to figure yo it was an end of a bone a little distorted but a bone...... It looks real familiar but I don't have a great deal of experience with human bones......how can I go about determining human or other?
@spatrk6634
@spatrk6634 3 года назад
depending on the law of your state/country. you are maybe required to report your find to the goverment. which contacts relevant people to determine what did you find. if its one of the kind find, they could take it from you for further examination and exhibition in museum. if its something common you will probably be able to keep it after proper documentation is done. every state/country has different law on things like this. i reccomend you look up yours
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 3 года назад
It would seem that if paleogenetics is ever able to find DNA in any of these ancient fossils, it might be a relevant indicator of progression. Just a thought. It seems that the linear evolution theories of the past are just not applicable. Especially considering there are so few fossils and no way to determine the time line of their existences. Also, because we are realizing, now, that there were so many species occupying the same time periods and hybridization very likely may have occurred. Fascinating and mind boggling!
@jeroylenkins1745
@jeroylenkins1745 4 года назад
Or S and H could both be ancestral to X.
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 3 года назад
I don’t think the Chinese have any difficulty believing they share the planet with several primitive subspecies of humanoid.
@tiedyehobo
@tiedyehobo Год назад
Carbon dating is only accurate in our atmosphere. Before the universal worldwide flood. We had a different atmosphere, we had more oxygen levels.
@zigzag1able
@zigzag1able 4 года назад
What is al666?
@spatrk6634
@spatrk6634 3 года назад
AL 666-1, a maxilla that dates to 2.33 Mya, discovered at Hadar.
@rhondaclark716
@rhondaclark716 4 года назад
The offspring of , Satan , and the , falling angels. , the giants ,and the Nephillim ,in genesis ,and the book of Enoch
@yeetman4953
@yeetman4953 4 года назад
No thats all just myth
@EmotionsRTemporary
@EmotionsRTemporary 3 года назад
@@yeetman4953 you believe in what a man tells instead of the word of God. That’s interesting to me.
@yeetman4953
@yeetman4953 3 года назад
@@EmotionsRTemporary ideals are what i follow not men
@EmotionsRTemporary
@EmotionsRTemporary 3 года назад
@@yeetman4953 The Bible is history book that no man alone could create. If you truly have read it and broke it down correctly, you would understand. I’m not here to convince, just my opinion.
@yeetman4953
@yeetman4953 3 года назад
@@EmotionsRTemporary no man could create? The flood story was plagarised
@big1dog23
@big1dog23 Год назад
Ardi, Ardi...are you there, lol.
@joeyoung374
@joeyoung374 2 года назад
...if that was the case, there would be no apes now.
@rhondaclark716
@rhondaclark716 4 года назад
Called the Nephillim
@007jamesellis9
@007jamesellis9 3 года назад
What's funny is I can collect rocks line them up and say this rock is releated to this rock and this one is releated to this one and so forth, in reality they are made the same but a rock that looks similar or the same can be completely different just have the same characteristics and not be related so what you are saying and doing is putting things into categories that are similar but not the same all completely different just similar in appearance with no way to prove they are changing into modern day humans. Lol lol lol.
@mattmatty4670
@mattmatty4670 3 года назад
Lol something is wrong with you buddy. Facts are facts cheers
@007jamesellis9
@007jamesellis9 3 года назад
@@mattmatty4670 you know anything about geology or genes?
@007jamesellis9
@007jamesellis9 3 года назад
@@mattmatty4670 I don't think you do huh
@mattmatty4670
@mattmatty4670 3 года назад
@@007jamesellis9 re max planck institute in Germany? If that's what you mean
@mattmatty4670
@mattmatty4670 3 года назад
@@007jamesellis9 svente paabo if you want help in DNA ect ect ?
@tiedyehobo
@tiedyehobo Год назад
This guy is on team Satan. Satans definition is adversary, against God. Jesus is Lord.
@deborahw6860
@deborahw6860 4 года назад
God made man and woman period. that's where we all came from is God !!! Not apes or anything else
@spatrk6634
@spatrk6634 3 года назад
but humans are apes.
@lawrencewilliams2911
@lawrencewilliams2911 4 года назад
No Proof Grow up
@MH-oh8rn
@MH-oh8rn 3 года назад
What a bunch of hogwash .
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