A Modern Operating System in 1.44MBs 

Wdym? What are you suggesting

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Vague kids everywhere 🤦‍♂️

Old otaku?

Why wasn't he able to setup a soundblaster?

@@The14Some1 only ISA SB16 is supported, no other SB card. Unfortunately.

@@leency What's a good modern OS for a Compaq Deskpro 386S ? Currently it has Win 3.1 and DOS 6.22

@@jasonrubik Modern OS for x386? :DDD Emmmmmmmm Win 3.1 is the best I suppose.

@leency, amazing achievement!

well, i have a super sonico instead, i think what astolfo means is a bit more darker :v

Bro is a re- ACK!

@@crazyskill638complete random question, why do so many people do this? what does it signify? i’m genuinely curious.

@@defaultdan7923 femboy

nice waifu ....... he's a man of culture.

Old nokias only have snake? Contemporary ericsons had more games.

​@@benholroyd5221Congratulations, I certify you immune to jokes.

@@leblueawoo I'm not immune, just extremely pedantic and argumentative.

​@@benholroyd5221Very well. Have a good day.

@@benholroyd5221 In layman terms: Same thing

That's awesome! I don't know much about MenuetOS but considering that a 1.44mb OS with bloat (how?) was based on it then I'm sure that it was crazy well made :]

Hey, could you maybe tell me how start assembler programming?

Do you have twitter? Can I talk to you on Github? Gmail?

​@@lollixd6580follow Ben Eater's 8-bit computer build, after that I would choose a popular architecture to write code for, ARM is getting a lot of attention these days but there's also a lot about x86 especially for 32-bit which is much more easier and less restrictive to write code for than 64-bit

do you also need a tutorial for google and youtube?

sadly its on purpose to hasten planned obsolescence

@@user1111AB optimization is extra money to develop and why do it if everyone has like 8gb+ and 500gb+ hard drives nowadays

Unoptimized or optimized to work on various combinations of hardware combos, and having to support legacy software

@@22minecraftguy because if you can make it so that, that one game can put out 10+ extra frames. you could allow people to play at a higher quality rather than having to compromise on worse graphics. Plus, the assumption that everybody has a 4090 with the latest CPU and one terabyte of RAM is how we got City Skylines 2.

@@le9038 The issue is a balance between optimization and actually releasing a game. The base of the issue is the massive data we have to deal with. Just take a single 4k texture, which many games now pack inside them. You aren't storing raw 4k textures, just a single raw 4k screenshot of my desktop is 24MB, compressing it to a .png reduces the size by 10x to just 2.4MB and JPG is smaller yet at 1.2MB. Thats important because a GPU can't render off compressed files, by nature of how compression works. So it has to uncompress these images on the fly as it needs them. So now thats overhead to deal with that you just can't optimize. So you either have a game like Cities Skylines that is 60GB or 600GB. Another factor for visual optimization is visual effects. A GPU does what's it's told, nothing more and nothing less. So when you want a fast frame, you need to make sure it can complete all instructions required to fill the frame buffer fast enough to display at the required frame rate. Each instruction takes time to process. Say you want to display an image on a billboard. It's one rectangle overlaid onto another rectangular space in the visual field. So once the GPU gets the texture it needs in memory it needs to calculate scaling which is a simple function, vertical key, horizontal key, rotation, other distortions or transforms, then it needs to convert that distorted 3d pixel information into a non-distorted square grid pixel pattern so it can be put in the frame buffer. The most optimal equations for doing this are already in use. The problem is we are asking it to do this millions of times per frame. Everything takes time and you run into issues where waiting for the silicon gates to change states becomes an issue so you can add two numbers using the most basic instruction there is. Doing all this by hand in code would be faster still. But that would take an entire lifetime to hand write and optimize every machine instruction in assembler. Not to mention every new GPU or CPU that adds or changes a feature would require learning an entirely new assembler language set. So we decide that releasing the game is important and create a high level compiler that we can write the game in and when it's time to write the game code, we compile it to run on top of an OS running environment, it tries to pick the best choices but there are edge cases that would just be too complex to automate so the compiler instead picks the slower and more reliable approach. This OS environment is yet another interpreter of sorts as it has to translate between the game engine and the hardware drivers, having an AMD or Intel CPU shouldn't require a different installer, having an i7-9700k vs an i7 12700k shouldn't require a different compiled version of the game. So again, we make decisions that are slower but more stable. Then we run into issues where you have dozens to hundreds of programmers working on the game code, a method one person uses to optimize game code may be just as effective as another persons method, but the two methods cannot work together, so you just pick a happy medium that both people understand how to write, even if it's not as effective. The result is a heavy leverage on people having more powerful computers because the game has to release at all. And since we want near photorealistic games with 4k textures and accurate physics simulations, we have to compromise somewhere.

Good job, I made a pxe boot to remmina in 8 megs and it was a pain. Though it was core linux based and needed a gui even with the init to rdp client. It did work on quite a lot of old windows 95 PCs. Though we didn't put the project into action as I burned out and left not that long after. I'm sad I don't have those sources anymore.

Yep, but they're mostly old now or just stripped down Linux which is nothing special, 10 a penny. KolibriOS still works and is still developed. I've installed it on everything from a Pentium 3 to an 8th gen intel 6 core machine. Networking and even some USB wifi adaptors worked automatically and I could download more, larger software from their online library. You can even run software openGL engines (slow but it works). There are side-projects to get Linux graphics drivers working with it. -- Most KolibriOS contributors are not natives of the Anglosphere so a lot of the posts are foreign but you can check the live development boards and things, some of it is in English. ReactOS and Menuet / KolibriOS should have had a ton of money thrown at them 15+ years ago onward by everyone pi$$ed off with Microsoft. Linux got all the support. Sad.

Agree

Wish we could have a mainstream one, like we used to.

@@TheSimoc true, there are some modifications of like windows and stuff that remove bloat but I'm too much of a whimp to try unsupported versions

@@FireJojoBoy the problem with those is potential security vulnerabilities and malaware. windows is proprietary and we don't know if such things exist on the OS

ONline! If you know you know.

what os is he using ? @@michaelcallummayaka

People..be..using? 🙄

“People be using” I bet you’re actually a rich kid from the suburbs

@@attribute-4677exactly, it’s a sickness

He he he I hope so

Also someone make a vid a bout this

i tried it and yeah i found doom already there

But, can it run crysis???????

@@bennubedroom idk i didnt check if it runs . exe or other kind of application

Well we had GeOS on the Commodore 64, a GUI. I also had a mouse to use it with ;)

Amiga workbench 1.3 fits on a single disk too

Compression has nothing to do with it. Assembly coding is extremely space-efficient.

​@@jimbotron70That's what they meant by compression

@@TheRenegade... But its not compression. There just isn't a bunch of unnecessary code from C/C++ libraries linked by the compiler. It really puts into perspective just how much CPU power and storage space we waste in order to make it easier for software developers. Luckily, the raw power of modern hardware affords us this luxury.

@@TheRenegade... No, you miss the point.

So, while we use the term compression to refer to the process of converting information to a different representation of it via some algorithm, like zipping, compression in this case would be to squeez as much information in the less amount of space possible (as that is the meaning of "to compress"), so by simply designing all of this in asm, squeezing all this features in a single floppy disk was achieved. Thus compression, or at least I think that is what the op meant :P

And now it’s owned by BlackBerry and runs on cars

That’s pretty awesome. Wonder if I could find one

QNX goes back to the early 80s actually, and it's still kickin'. Too bad it's proprietary, because it has its charms. Would be fun to fool around with on open hardware.

This! It had everything and with a frame buffer video driver that didn't require dedicated drivers and still got to a working GUI. I suspect you could have also done the same with Windows 3.1 at the time if you really cut down on the system...

RTOS’ like QNX are a thing. Why did you put it in quotes? Lol

no mouse or keyboard it's more likely it froze or locked up🤣🤣🤣

pretty sure the DE in the beginning is KDE Plasma 5 tho, looking at the notifications at the top right and the systray

thanks i was wondering about this

love u

What's a DE skin?

@@bz4g skin for a 'desktop environment' (DE), in this case its for 'XFCE', a window manager / de for linux. you can get themes that change the look and feel by downloading them and putting them in the right folders and enabling them in the settings

It doesn't require 1.44mb, it's just the size of the floppy disk you can save the OS on...

@@Alfred-Neuman Yes I know. I just worded it slightly wrong because I was tired.

@@bricktasticanimations4834also the system requirements are much larger (it expands the disk contents onto a ram disk) but it fits the dloppy when compressed

@@andrejszasz2816 Yes, I'm sure.

This comment smacked me upside the head with nostalgia hard enough to miss my windows 95 demo disk

Best "cheap"sound card ever made ...((i am realy crying about the fact that i have had 3 pc in my live with them bad ass mofo's (to play some dos games) and i now am using scarlett shizzle that is 120 times the price and half as good)anyway the architecture of old software is so much better hell i mean them processors got how much better? While that old software loads, how much faster?we as a species are doing something wrong other than being jell us all the time and thinking about hard core prawns all the time...

​@@teckz0r everything is a skinned chrome browser now. Easy and cheap to develop and deploy but extremely resource hungry.

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I tried that a few years ago on an IBM Thinkpad 600e with a 366MHz Pentium II on Windows XP (which does of course not make any sense to do on such a machine, because a real Dos based operating system could be installed). It worked great for earlier dos titles, but was definitely not up to the task for newer ones (like Elder Scrolls Daggerfall).

​​@@martingamper6435 I used to have that as a kid! Locked myself out of it when the CMOS battery died, though, since I had a supervisor password set. Tried to reset it the hard way some years back but ended up bricking it.

​@martingamper6435 Try it now on modern hardware.

win 95 and 98 already have MSDOS

I wouldn't be too sure about that. As long as it has drivers for the hardware you're using then it's more than ample. Consider that I've got a huge build of the kernel and it still only takes up 12mb. While that's beyond the size of a floppy, it includes drivers for hardware I don't even have. Imagine a stripped down kernel that only has drivers for the absolute most common hardware that people could have. Even a full install of Win98 back in the day could take less than 500mb if you deleted the bloatware from it. I'd love to see him install a network card and sound card and really test it out, because the last time I used Menuet it worked with all of my hardware, and Kollibri being a fork should mean the same.

Ironically, terrible hardware support is what keeps me from using Linux and I tried a dozen times in the last 20 years. At one point people suggested to use wine to run a freaking windows driver or something. My old eeePC has winXP. Why? No Linux (Ubuntu, debian idk what else I tried) supported the hardware. Some didn't like my screen, others had no audio support and or no support for the WiFi chip. Either way, it was a literal brick with any Linux. This is not hate, it just baffles me when people say something like "it has great driver support". Idk, maybe in the last 5 years something changed but I remember a time when literally nobody could use their own usb printer because there were no drivers😅

​@@borstenpinselYea, there has been a lot of change in that sector, ive never had a driver issue, even nvida hasnt caused me any real pain. The only driver that was a pain was one for the led keyboard. Ive never had issues with printers either. But of corse i could just be the exception, im using common hardwere aswell. EDIT: forgot to mention ive only been using linux for the last 2 years.

@@borstenpinsel That's the way it works sometimes. If you use weird hardware that none of the developers have, you're not going to get good drivers. I've been lucky with mine because I pretty much always use pre-builts and except for the Conexant soft-modem I had 25 years ago, everything worked out of the box, and Red Hat actually had drivers for it which I was able to use. Even my oddball printer that I've got now works, but boy was it a PITA to get working.

@@anon_y_mousse my kernel is configured for my hardware and also takes up 12MB, so specializing the driver load-out probably won't save much as such. I also see now that the size has increased markantly over time 5.19 - +250kiB -> 6.0 - +420kiB -> 6.3.0 - -8kiB -> 6.3.2 That is without any user configurable settings, except the compiler version, changing. That final decrease in size also coincided with GCC upgrading from 12.2 to 13.1.

Smash

Amen

Yes, we need to advertise this more

the fact that is has so much crap on it and it's 1.44 megs in size is just amazing when you think about it🤣🤣🤣

It used 720kB double density diskettes and was able to format it as 880kB, with different filesystems like pfs,ffs,afs, it was able to use even more - near 1MB. And it had a real preemptive multitasking.

HOLY DINGUS YOU'RE ALIVE

I remember this - it was touted as the next Amiga OS or something. Not sure how that would have worked with the endianness.

Oh, that's the figurine! I should really get into Fate one of these days.

everyone knows you need soft, small, feminine hands to work on computers

@@ukemi- why would you say that...

@@mirai5268👈 do we tell him?

​@@mirai5268it's facts

Given the reliability of computers in the 90s I can assure you their use was usually accompanied by the word "Fuck"

Amen

I still have win 95 startup and shutdown sounds on my w10 pc :D :D :D

@@dim0n1 I had NT startup on Windows 11 till an update removed it. Time to do it again but with the shutdown sound too this time.

No sound is the best startup sound. It shouldn't be needed! The "os" should be ready the same second you flip the on/off-switch, just like on a calculator, or any general appliances.

Ubuntu 8.10 was even better. Those drums man.

Maybe you're thinking of GEOS (I think it changed ownership and is now called Breadbox).

You confused me, because GEOS is for Commodore. What you’re talking about is PC/GEOS. Luckily there wiki to factcheck :)

It's probably a demo of the QNX operating system, as other comments have mentioned. Try searching for "QNX 1.44MB" for more information about it.

Sounds like QNX.

BeOS? I'm probably wrong

this was the comment i was looking for, somehow i managed to be impressed by there being one but then i thought a bit more and remembered the guy is a linux user lmao

​@@WaterLexthere are two types of Linux users: 1) weebs 2) Luke Smith luddites 💀

@@WaterLex Good point! That would explain mine aswell, haha.

​@@KoopstaKliccahow about both

​@@WaterLexI think he is wearing programming socks too... UwU

@@fadate7292 To be fair - in 1999 the majority of people still had dial up networking! DSL broadband started to get more widespread from 2002 onwards, for instance, in 2002, there were only around 200,000 DSL subscribers in the UK. I was one of the early adopters with demon internet and I managed to get it before the product had been offically launched via their owner company Thus literally within a week of the equipment being installed in my local exchange

I was there... trying QNX on a floppy. A million years away.

I remember trying this out back in the late 1990s, with the tagline, "Take the 1.44MB Surf Challenge!" - back when people still referred to "surfing" the Internet. 😆 I thought it was cool at the time to fit an OS on to a single floppy disk. In fact, I think I still have the disk somewhere in my collection...

I really liked QNX. I still have the install archived.

Most of the info in this video is "start with the corners" level. I'm glad that kids are playing with old stuff, but lack of context is almost insulting.😢

a webbrowser with 600 bytes?

@@leandroschmidt1292 only took up like 600 bits of storage

​@@leandroschmidt1292he wrote bits. That's only around 70 to 80 bytes.

​ curl url system.out.print 😂😂

​@@leandroschmidt1292no, he wrote _bites_ which means the browser bites everyone who's trying to get closer to it, like a dog or something

how tf do you have qemu on a phone

@@TacitMarmot27121yt Limbo is based on QEMU. I've run up to Windows 98 on it.

​@@TacitMarmot27121ytby not using iPhone?😂 I have Windows/macOS and Linux installers on my phone, Also carrying my macOS bootable Image on my (Android) phone. Qemu works fine under Android, there are few apps for that, Even straight from Google

@@TacitMarmot27121yt If he has a Pinephone it's 100% possible, and otherwise i don't know exactly but there are package managers for Android and stuff

​@@TacitMarmot27121yt Termux, termux is the answer of everything

I have several sony equipment as well. A minidisk player, a stereo system for my old iPod, headphones, a camera. And same as you I love vintage equipment.

Having two Thinkpads, one from the elder era with ibm(2003), and one newer from Lenovo (2008)

I've given up on Puppy and am now using Porteus 5.01 LXQt. There's too much extra software in Puppy that I don't need. It is problematic to remove it.

Thank you :) Actually it's not as simple as that. We made it small, but being fast is a different problem. It was not fast loading webpages. But for us, that was ok

It has dosbox so

i too am curious !

That's the xfce theme