I put a PC inside a PC (It’s actually GOOD!) 

you should use prism launcher for minecraft

wt is p2w btw

could i use a video capture card to see the interface for this on my main pc?

Don't take my life plz

@@Sir_pancakes_modrinth better

Well, you could use some sort of PCIe x16 female/female adapter and connect another NUC to that and repeat for the amount of NUCs you want? But then...wouldn't you technically be having a bunch of blade servers in a different format?

NUC on a Pi?

Also create a hypervisor on that virtualizing some home servers, virtualizing some home servers hosting containers... 😂

I wish this card had a pcie expansion slot.

Looks like this is the same Jeff that left a glowing review on a connector on Amazon

Beat me to the joke

So you can computer while you computer 😎

Sun Microsystems has been doing this since they released the Penguin.

Jeff Geerling beat him to it with a thumbnail featuring this meme

*Amiga Bridgeboard enters the chat*

Oh jeez that would be hilarious

i was thinking the same thing! lol

@@HardwareHaven a tinkerer guy says to Inception "hold my fan"...

My first thought...

Oh God that would be sooo funny if it works! 😂

True...

I was thinking the same thing

@@HardwareHaven it would be similar to the scrapped Project Larabee in a way, where the card could also execute x86 instructions in a graphics card-like form factor

Intel and amd would have a heart attack. They want to overcharge business and not give them any outs. The arm chip makers might allow for that.

You could do it, with a pcie switch set up as a non-transparent bridge. The Linux kernel makes use of this natively for some kinds of NTB, forming virtual network and serial links between machines. The cost of that NTB chip however is quite significant.

Yeah, you can get a Minisforum MC560 with a Ryzen 5 5625U on Newegg right now for 255. Not a perfect mini PC.. but still makes more sense than spending $250 on a PCI card Computer that still needs power from another source that can't sleep.

It TECHNICALLY does provide 3.3V, 5V and 12V to the motherboard... but yeah it would be awesome if there was more to it.

It might be usable by using two PCIe slot adapters with a PCIe data cable between them.

@@HardwareHaven I didn't get why do you used the top slot (direct conected to the CPU)of the MB if you needed to cover the data pins. I know that in the actual configuration it doesn't matter, but you could have saved it for a future project whith a GPU, or a 10Gb optical nic, etc... IDK, it simply looked wrong to me to damage the case there.

@@murylocordeiro There's a big difference between a project that will get used vs a project that gets torn down after I finish filming. Honestly, I put it in the top slot because it looked better and would look more like a GPU in the thumbnail and B-Roll lol. As far as the case, I plan to clean up the cuts before my next video on it, and I don't think losing just one of of those cross bars will affect the structure in any meaningful way.

Yeah, disappointed to find out (early in the video, at least) that it isn't something like the SunPCi

Sun micro also did the same with Solaris.

Several companies did this sorta thing for various platforms, I had a Mac Quadra something with a 486dx2-50 on a card in it back in the day, quite useful actually since I had limited space living in a small 1 room appartment of sorts, so I just had one monitor, mouse and keyboard, but separate PC and Mac computers combined into one thing. Hypervisors have absolutely nothing to do with it, LPAR was very much a thing. However, what it did was allow two completely different hardware architectures to coexist inside one physical computer and also exchange files to a degree, I no longer remember exactly how it worked but it was a thing. LPAR is splitting a computer system into more separate "slices" that can run separate instances of the OS to a configurable degree, without needing actually separate hardware to run the "slice" on, pretty much exactly what a bunch of people are very exited about these days as if it is a new thing, lol. The difference now is that you can do it on consumer level hardware, that's it - and that is due to address translation being supported in newer CPU's, which is a _must_ to run so called VM's which are simply a softer form of an LPAR in most ways. Edit: Realized this may not ring bells to people younger than me, LPAR is a logical partition, this has been a thing with larger computer systems for quite some time, I don't recall off the top of my head who did it first but I'm talking about stuff that was done on "professional server/large systems", so not x86, 68k, Amiga etc pedestrian overgrown pocket calculators, which in many ways is what they were back in the 80's and before, and to a degree still most of the 90's. I mean "big iron" computers, 32 and 64bit systems when most people at home had things like C64, Atari or if they were a bit more die-hard they had some Mac, PC or if they were cool an Amiga 😁

@noth606 Youre a bit long in the tooth. I don't think 95% of the viewers are older than 30. Thanks for the read. I'm guessing you're well into your 50s.

@@oldschooldude8370 nope. 44. My friend had one of these cards when we were 12.

Also the Bridgeboard for the Amiga or the CP/M card for the Apple II in 1979(first Microsoft product)

lol I should've found a way to make an inception reference. Wasted opportunity...

Install it in a DAS, that hosts a empty MB for PCIe power?

@@benjiro8793 that might do it yeah

It could probably be sidestepped by using a separate power supply, but then that defeats certain use cases because there'd be an obvious PSU sticking outside of the case with cables running inside and/or the side door would be removed, sort of like what I had to do with my NAS where I have a separate PSU powering the storage devices because the 1U PSU in the case couldn't provide enough power without drives randomly disconnecting and reconnecting in Linux.

Phanteks makes some dual system power supplies that let each system sleep independently. You might have to tinker to get it working 100% properly with a "system" that lacks a 24-pin connector, but I can't imagine it's impossible.

@@kbhasithere exist cases that have 2 power supply slots.

X TO THE Z!

I guess I prefer MultiMC due to customisation.

@@PyroBlank they are literally the same, but I prefer prism as you can get it as flatpak.

​@@PyroBlankI originally use MultiMC as well!

Haha i felt weird saying "host machine" in a physical sense

She's a beauty! I'm excited to make a video on it.

Hahahaha

🤔

Does that mean Red Shirt Jeff is other other Jeff?

@@JeffGeerling The people have spoken.

😂😂 Jeffception happening here

beat me to it

Especially given the lack of 2.5/10Gbe. There are some M.2 2.5Gbe Ethernet adapters so creating a higher speed link to the system isn't impossible, but at a certain point I feel like you'd be better off running a Phanteks P600s or other dual system case and running two full PCs, each with full PCIe x16 expansion

But the do spit metal shavings all over the place...

Snips create a LOT less metal dust though. I suspect he didn't feel like totally dismantling the PC to protect components from metal dust when 10 seconds of snipping would be just as effective (just less pretty...)

There's a big difference between a project that I plan to keep and a project that I teardown the week after I publish the video, lol

I've had this exact same idea as well. Originally I was searching for a hardware RAID card capable of doing raid 5 or 6, since that would be the only solution that would work on a multi os system. I something like this pc card just appeared as a network card to the host pc, communication would also be taken care of.

You wouldn't need to plug it into any of the motherboard's PCIe slots if you're using a mining adapter. This device is only using the PCIe slot to supply power in this use case. That's why he taped over the data pins in the video.

true!

Fixed!

Ooh that seems scary... - says the guy running a router in a VM

AH THANKS! I knew I was missing somethinf

Fixed!

The mining motherboard is unnecessary. The PCIe slot isn't being used for data in that setup, so you might as well just use the risers without plugging them in to anything other than the power supply. Just using mining adapters, sure, you could make a server farm with these (using Ethernet for data), but buying actual server parts would probably end up much cheaper. Used server parts drop in price rapidly, especially high-end server parts. Used 64-core AMD CPUs, even with X3D cache, are absurdly cheap for the amount of processing power they have.

There would be no reason to plug it into any of the motherboard's PCIe slots if using a mining adapter. This device is not using the PCIe slot for anything other than power in this use case. That's why he taped over the data pins in the video.

Glad you like them!

Probably defaults to x8 for both PCIe slots when 2 cards inserted anyway.

@@eric4903 it doesn't work like that for the 1st slot. on atx boards with 3 slots the last 16x will auto switch from 4x or whatever to 2x2x or 1x1x1x1x when other 1x slots are used.

@@eric4903 that's bifurcation and you either need a pcie bifurcation board and set it in bios - if you plan on using multiple pcie cards on the same slot OR use a pcie device that suports bifurcation natively asus hyperx comes to mind from 16x slot to 4x nvme

I considered getting one of those little HDMI plug PCs or something just to go 3 deep haha