@@xythiera7255 having both varieties as a choice would be the best situation of course. Honestly though on my LG C2, reflections are both less bright AND less smeary (glossy anti-reflective panel with a polarizer layer). In a moderately to even brightly lit room it's far from a mirror. You see some bright highlights reflected yes, but they don't diffuse and smear that brightness fully across the screen like every matte monitor I've ever used does. Matte OLEDs all look like LCDs to me with raised blacks. Completely defeats the purpose of having one.
Found an LG 42C2 for £699 today (John Lewis+promo code), so that's what I'll be going with. Pretty sure I'm going to loath the reflections on the glossy panel, but it's so much better priced than the competition!
@@Mayhemz.95 ngl, the reflections are a little annoying. I've had to turn my keyboard lighting right down because it reflects in the damn screen 😄! I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker, & it does make the blacks super inky deep which is really nice when that's needed.
I wife got the KTC G48P5S and I have NO issue with it! I love this monitor. I highly Recommend this monitor. FYSA, She caught it with $400 coupon on Amazon. It was about $986 give or take. Note.: The model she bought did not have the stand. I bought the stand for $150 on Amazon.
Asus so far is superior to all. I tried the LG and lacked in some scenarios where the reflection from LG is annoying. Also the Asus monitor has better brightness which made it the choice for me. This Chinese model looks more similar to the LG but at the moment I use the Asus for everyday use for 2 months and quite happy with it.
Love the comparison, I like the cost of the KTC, especially without the stand which I don't need. I do like the white metal backing of the KTC too over the others
A bit of advise.....try to include more b roll of the monitor or subject device that face on screen even if you play on a loop...you will loose alot of watch time because if feels like commentary instead of comparisons
How is the 60hz input lag? The Asus had a bit more lag with 60hz signals according to both your and rtings reviews, while the c2 was much better and wondering how this compares
Interesting. The slight difference may lie in the screens. The WBE screen may give the slightly better in put lag, but it's a bit weird that if the KTC was angling more toward desktop use why does it not support PIP and PBP modes?
I've been looking forward to this. I just subscribed, and can't wait to see more reviews. One thing that I hope that would consider adding in is to lag test for 60Hz gaming, and 120Hz. As a competitive gamer on devices that use these refresh rates specifically, I have noticed that some gaming monitor might have excellent 60Hz, 120Hz, and maximum refresh performance like the Asus ROG Strix XG279AQ. I have also seen low input lag from gaming monitors, that at maximum refresh have excellent low input lag, but have horrible lag at 60Hz like the ASUS TUF Gaming VG259QM. I have read the article posted about the KTC G42P5's input lag tests, which are insane, but I would need to know if this insanity continues at 60Hz and 120Hz before I would consider paying the $ I look forward to seeing your subscriber count grow once the word gets out. I leave it with this question: Do you still use SMTTv2, or do you now use a scope and probe to test lag? You have one page that says you use SMTTv2, but newer articles that say you are using a scope now. Have a Great Day
Hi Christopher. Thanks for the questions and support. We use a combination for the lag measurements. SMTT is used to calculate total display lag as it’s not reliable to only use an oscilloscope for that kind of measurement, but the scope is used to calculate the pixel response times so we can estimate the amount of that lag which is from g2g times, and how much is therefore from signal processing lag. I’ll look in to whether we can start including more complete results at other refresh rates too, that’s a good idea 👍
You make the same error as usual people, almost everybody. You forgot that the USB-Type-C capability is far from the HDMI2.1 or DP1.4. It's because the USB3.1 gen1 bandwidth is 5Gbps, USB3.1 gen2 is still only 10Gbps. And HDMI2.1 is 48Gbps, that's a huge-huge difference. When transmitting 4k120Hz, about 38Gbps is necessary, the HDMI can do that easily. The USB Type-C with Displayport Alt-Mode can do that only with a built-in special codec, and that comes with quality degradation (compressing-decompressing video stream). So the USB-C connector is excellent for portable devices and 15.6'' portable displays, (it is also able to give the necessary power to the display, you will have 1 wire connection!) where the display size is small, and the quality is not the primary importance. But on a big 42'' desktop monitor or TV it won't give you real advantage, you want to use HDMI definitely, you can be sure about that.
@@wranefis My point was: USB-C Dp Alt-Mode connector is not necessary on a non-portable display. Because you don't wanna use it. But you pay for it, the HW is not for free.
The pricing is off, the compnay needs to establish itself before commanding prices like this. Id much rather pay a premium for a brand i recognize vs save 100$ with a brand I've nevet heard of or used.
they are established they make panels for asus and Samsung and other big companies just barely started actually selling their own monitors now they been making displays since 95
Ok so I have a C1 OLED 77in and use it to game on both consoles and PC and watch movies occasionally for the past 2 years and it’s been an amazing product, I just acquired the Asus 42in monitor kinda spontaneously on Black Friday and after a few days of use I can immediately notice it’s not as bright as the C1 OLed but the image and everything else about it is amazing. I like how the video pinpointed that cuz it’s definitely true. I’m kinda torn on which screen to use for what . So I’ve been cycling through machines on both displays as I share with my young kids my games on the weekends lol 😅
So you would say that the image quality is good on the Asus? Just purchased it and feel like it’s just mixed reviews, I just am really interested in the image quality!
Is it possible to calibrate colours and white balance at different signal levels in the Game Optimizer mode the way it's possible in other picture modes like the Expert ones? Does it allow to set color space to "Auto"? Or you're basically stuck with panel's native performance if you want optimized latency?
Hi TFTCentral - I just picked the g42p5 and there is a new firmware out that has a “reading” mode that supposedly stops it from auto dimming. I attempted to update it and followed the instructions KTC provided perfectly…it still displays the same firmware version 2.2.9, and with no changes made to the monitor. I was wondering if you had any experience installing this new firmware. Thanks!
I just got one of these KTC G42P5 and i was going back and forth between the ASUS PG42UQ (still am considering it) I bought this mainly for the Potential of the OLED E panel, the type C input and the KVM switch. The Type C input only supports up to 40k30. That is really disapointing for a 2022 monitor when i have 2 4k monitors at work hat support type C at 4k60. The KVM switch is usefull, but i wish i could link the USB B port to an input so when i switch inputs it will automatically switch the KVM switch. Like a LG monitor i have. As this is the EX OLED panel i was vs the non in the ASUS, i was hoping for better performance, but colors seem weird. I have an LG Oled TV so it must be the processing. I was able to fix much of it using the NVIDIA color tool. It also doesnt have a uniform brightness mode. So i think the ASUS might win out on that unless KTC does something with a firmware update. I have asked them about this. An issue i do have with it, is while i am using the display with my laptop hooked up to the TYPE C with power delivery, there is a weird buzzing sound with a pulsing click that comes from the monitor. and while docked when moving a bright window around on the display it makes another buzzing sound. It does not do that when im switched over to the desktop. I think this has potentionial, but i was more disapointed than excited. I think the thing that made me disapointed was mainly the type c input issues. Which was the selling point for me on this. I have a couple weeks i could return it, and i might go back to getting the ASUS version. Im hoping after a week of using this and seeing how their support team responds may determine if i keep it or not.
@@vhc8383 actually I had this issue with the 4k30 fps but then switched the KVM to the second option in the menu and it got rid of this. i'm not entirely sure why, but now Mac is stable via USB C with HDR, 4K, and 120 hz
@@vhc8383 I ended up returning it and getting the ASUS PG42UQ. There was another issue that they would not solve is that he USB would disable after the monitor goes into standby and thus you could not wake the computer using a keyboard through the KVM switch. As i liked the type c input, it was not worth the hassel. I bought a KVM switch for the PG42UQ and a USB dock, this config works pretty well
It's literally not as we could see in another video on this channel :) . Honestly, the LG C2 is in a different league than the ASUS. Just watch the comparison side by side video. It's a night & day difference. The LG completely destroys the ASUS monitor and it's €700 cheaper, too!
Ignoring the price difference, which I agree is very compelling, “destroys” is a strong word. It has better HDR brightness and performance but the Asus is better in other areas - motion clarity (a bit), input lag, connections, screen coating (for monitor usage)…
@@tftcentral maybe it was my Asus specifically, but the hdr colour accuracy was significantly worst than my older LG 48in cx oled and made the open world games I played look washed out and not accurate. I ended up just returning it and ordering a LG 42 c2 instead.
@@amuddyelfproductions3915 Yep. A washed out look is the impression I got from the side by side video as well. Washed out and due to the matte coating it also looked as if someone strew a thin layer of ash across the screen while the LG C2 was bright and crystal clear by comparison. I was REALLY interested in the ASUS and I would usually much prefer buying a monitor rather than a TV but after that side by side comparison the ASUS is out of the game for me.
LG C2 also has the Alpha 9 gen 5 Processor....great for AI up scaling from 1080p, if your GPU is not up to snuff for 4K, and it does not have DLSS / XESS support.....after all , that's what it was designed for , up scaling 1080P terrestrial TV channels to 4k.
Asus PG42UQ just had a firmware update to tweak HDR (V033). I do notice it's quite a bit brighter after upgrading. Wonder how it stacks up against these other panels now?
I have the PG42UQ and I cannot use it in the dark above 60 brightness gaming. And when I work in the daytime with a window near me it sits at 25 brightness (uniform brightness on)
thanks @@tftcentral , I sow that you updated information about KTC firmware, would it be possible to get retest of the areas that new firmware fixes? Thanks again for great content and hard work!
Would be nice to have a monitor that doesn't need Windows to update it. I have a mac and a ps5 and im pretty much stuck with tv if i ever want to receive updates for my monitor/tv. Tvs dont have display port so im pretty much screwed. Ill never game on anything i dont have a disc so me buying a pc is out the window. Great review by the way.
have you ever faced such a problem?The monitor sometimes does not recognize my MacBook via Type-C connection after sleep. The only way to make monitor work is to unpower the monitor. Are there any options to fix this?
KTC's new Amazon store is now available including this model and others in their range. You can find the G42P5 here: locally.link/gdC9. You can also get a 5% discount between 12 Oct and 12 Nov 2023 inclusive using the code TFTCentral
When I think of a KVM, I'm thinking of a device that lets you share a keyboard/video (monitor)/mouse between multiple computers. How does this work with this monitor? Is it not a KVM switch and more of a two port USB hub on the monitor where you can only run to one computer and not multiple computers? This monitor is intriguing for my use case of gaming PC, work PC, and MBP 14 laptop. I would be able to plug all of them in, but not having PIP & PBP kind of ruins it but I rarely use more than one computer at the same time.
its really for switch between 2 computers and you want use the display and only one keyboard mouse set. I just got this monitor, you have to change the KVM seperatly from the display input.
Yeah, that is the advantage of a smart tv vs monitor, they actually get subsidized by the apps and data exchange. So even though manufacturing price is likely close, the smart tv is cheaper
@@WhenKittensATK1125 Cant argue with that price! I paid $1600 (In £s) for the PG42UQ. I love it and its been amazing but I have a very specific use case and its pays my wage using it.
I think you mean ABL there instead of APL, but yes on the KTC that seems to be active at all brightness levels unfortunately. As does ASBL See our written review for more info here tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/ktc-g42p5-oled And also explanation of all these terms here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-dimming-confusion-apl-abl-asbl-tpc-and-gsr-explained
I was looking for some help deciding between LG 42C2 vs Asus PG42UQ but i just got more confused. im sure many others have been on my situation. But two things I kept on hearing 1. that the HDR on ASUS PG is not working properly even with the firmware and having matt finish makes the OLED display less vibrant or "less black" 2. For LGC2 "missing the PC feature which I understand coz its a TV and this pink and blue hue on the side. input lag is noticeable?
Have a read of our written review of the PG42UQ which was done after our LG C2 review and it should cover all your questions. We also have a video directly comparing those two screens: Review: tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg42uq-oled Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jC7Umnkk0rk.html
C2 10 bit hdr settings service menu turn of dimming hdr mode ...gaming......also need to set it up plus changeing drivers system colors games looking sick but also depends from game nfs heat is bit shity all others ok
I know this is an old post but I have been using the LG C2 as a monitor for just over four months now. I went with the C2 because I found it on sale for $799.00 new. I just bought the ASUS PG42UQ to replace the C2 as my monitor because the glossy screen is just too reflective with any kind of light source. Firmware version v40 was just released a few days ago that fixes the HDR issue on the PG42UQ.
There is some minor tint on C2, if you test it with a white screen, but it's not noticeable otherwise. Compared to old IPS irregularities, it's nothing to worry about. The input lag is absent, it's a perfect TV for FPS. C2 doesn't have displayport, so text will be a bit less crisp, but more so due to pixel density, as it's not IPS or nanoled. I found C2 not good as a working monitor, somehow I don't like staring at it all day, I get eyes tired
So I went to the KTC website to see how to download firmware for this monitor. I looked through the whole site and I couldn't find any sections that would have firmware updates, does anyone know how to get the firmware updates from KTC for the G42P5?
You can't go wrong with either but for strictly gaming, C3. Mixed use, A90K. The A90K has better image processing imo, but it has higher input lag and less gaming features than the C3.
@@tftcentral Thanks for responding. This is definitely a first for me when it comes to buying any screen. The KTC looks like a good screen compared to the other 2.
Could you please start including some kind of wattage usage for an hour of time doing several different activities for these OLEDS? For example, hour of gaming, hour of web browsing.. etc.
That isn’t featured on any of these 42” OLED models apart from BFI being available on the LG C2 at 60Hz only, which we didn’t include as it can’t be used at the native 120Hz. ELMB is a blur reduction technology used on some Asus LCD monitors, but not on their OLEDs
Monitor is good , pricing at 1100$ is not . Considering LG 42" C2 is selling for under 900$ this is a no brainer. Ideality this monitor should sell for under 800$ considering all the features it lacks compared to a smart TV.
@@gottachange Sure and your point is ? Does it change anything from the fact that plenty of customers are buying the 42'' to use it as a PC monitor ? C2 being a smart TV makes the value proposition even more ridiculous since unlike the conventional monitors it offers much more ...
@@JBlakeS23 If you're in a dark room they'll be similar. If you look at the Alienware OLED in brighter situations the coating makes blacks look grey or causes haziness and isn't crystal clear like glossy panels.
I don't believe this is a "smart" monitor. So even if it has Spyware, I don't believe it'd have the means to communicate any information it would theoretically gather.
Exactly! I am after a monitor with a gloss finish. Have no bright lights behind me so want the extra sheen of a gloss finishing to really pop out. If anyone knows of one please hit us up!