Thank you Paul for the excitement you have and vision you see for the Ultium motor. And for explaining its development while giving credit to its creators. The electric version of the small block V8! I hadn't thought of it that way. Fantastic life and technology changing once in a liftime opportunity for all of us. I can't wait for Munro to get one for teardown and analysis.
Absolutely stoked that Paul gives credit to the design engineers that created this amazing motor. It would be wonderful if Paul could explain to us with drawings as to how this design works and how it differs from other motors. Thank you Paul and Monroe.
...Or is it? GM has basically added the Avalanche midgate to this truck. Lots of parts, expense to manufacture. Out Of Spec test drove Silverado EV RST and commented on rattles and squeaks emanating back there. Other testers have told me the cabin is solid. I'm up in the air over it. It definitely adds versatility. GM never has impressed me with that vault-like solidity you hope for over time.
@@jmel1746My 2008 Avalanche with 630,000 kms gas a midgate and I assure you that the midgate does not squeak or rattle or leak. Never has. The tonneau covers, sure or if you let debris collect in the gutter system. Otherwise all these years and there are dash creaks and rattles but my Avy is rock solid.
Very nice to see Sandy appreciate the details of another manufacture other than Tesla. GM, Ford, Rivian, VW, etc... have not been just sitting on their asses as Munro has been tearing apart older vehicles. It took a change in mindset, but all of the major manufacturers are all in on designing and building EV's.
The mid-gate on the Avalanche folds flatter with the bed. The ability to have an 8+ foot-long bed is a key reason why I've owned an Avalanche since 2003. I also like the tonneau cover better on the Avalanche. Still, for an EV truck this looks pretty nice.
Sandy was speaking length in the context of turning radius. That means he was talking about wheelbase. And, yes, the Silverado's wheelbase is longer than the Cybertruck, by 2.6 inches, to be exact. The Silverado has more front and rear overhang, which is why the overall length is so much more than the Cybertruck.
The Silverado is a compelling product. I am looking forward to hearing more from users and seeing what RAM comes up with although I am challenged with Carlos' leadership.
Black is much better than the blue. Sandy is exactly right. I don't agree with GM's massive battery strategy and the interior materials are a bit of a miss for a truck at this price point, but GM's entry into the EV pickup segment seems quite good otherwise.
@@bad50 The only logical reason to need that many electrons on tap in a truck like this is for towing, but the cost in weight defeats that purpose anyway. Diesels are still the obvious choice for towing until a breakthrough is made in battery technology.
@@kenhiett5266 the choice of a huge battery isn't just for range. They chose the big pack to handle the thermal loads of heavy towing and fast charging. Out of Spec lost some regen function in their CT when doing a towing test where they didn't have that experience in the Silverado EV. It has also been a consensus among testers that the Silverado feels more stable while towing heavy loads. Also, oddly enough, the Sierra EV Denali is the same price as the RST with a better interior.
Nice, there is something for everyone...not everyone needs a Cybertruck and contrary to what some may think not everyone WANTS a Cybertruck. Great video
@@BLAISEDAHL96 - the Silverado EV weighs as much as the Hummer EV (same outdated platform). Cybertruck is LIGHTEST of the BEV bunch, and the MOST safe & efficient.
Cybertruck actually checks MORE boxes , than any other BEV Truck . it has MORE use case & offers MORE utility. Chybertruck is also SAFEST truck ever bult , its very Efficient .
@@markplott4820 Like what? The bed of the Cybertruck sucks balls compared to this and has almost half the range... It has more power, maybe drives a bit better and that's it.
Its important to keep in mind this truck is something you pick up used. These EVs depreciate like crazy, at 40K this thing is a must buy, that midgate is awesome and Kyle proved that this thing goes real usable distances when towing unlike other EV trucks. The battery can power your house, and the hookup is reasonably priced. And finally unlike the CT it doesnt look ridiculous and draw attention when driving down the road.
I like the truck. Unfortunately GM is losing significantly money on all its's BEVs. Their solution seems to be low production numbers. Hope I am wrong.
@@danharold3087 There is too much gossip about OEMs losing money on EVs. Most of that talk is fueled by Tesla fans struggling with the idea of growing competition. All OEMs know that building the supply chain, infrastructure, and processes that will make EVs both more affordable and profitable will take time and considerable investment. Inflation and surging interest rates slowed but did not stop EV growth over the last couple years, but inflation has fallen and interest rates soon will as well. OEMs know that EVs are the future and what they are investing today will pay dividends in that electric future.
wow, this is a CT killer, why, because it’s a real truck for real work. Also give credit to Andrew and the GM engineer explaining design details, he showed a lot of pride in what him and others at GM were to accomplish which sounded like GM has designed a State of the Art EV truck giving what owners wanted 750hp, 450 mile range with a 400v architecture and electric motors second to none. Glad it’s American made and engineered a huge achievement to those union laborers that built it.
I gotta 2nd that, the Silverado EV is exactly what most would imagine when they think of an actual American work truck.They basically covered everything power, range, and one massive truck bed.
Absolutely. I'm a Tesla fan boy/owner. Silverado EV in my driveway because Tesla didn't deliver the 500 mile range. I got 450 range for less than 66k. 😁😁
19:45 Dr. Khwaja Rahman works at Rivian now. He is the head of Electromagnetics Design for their motors, which is responsible for Enduro and the new Quad.
Great episode! We had an EV event yesterday where I was able to test drive the Equinox EV and the Blazer EV. In both cases on fast acceleration (accelerator floored) there was a vibration from about 40-70 km/hr that seemed like it was coming from the motor. Anyone else experience this? The acceleration on my Model Y is silky smooth in comparison.
Sandy: Hello Andrew! Thanks for dropping off your Silverado for us at Munro to tear down! Andrew: Clutches his chest and collapses in the parking lot...
Except for efficiency, off road capability, body durability, road performance and handling, steering, software, suspension, locking bed cover, cameras, locking diffs, ground clearance and adjustability.....and maybe some truck owners care about sound system.
The metric that matter more is how much they are losing on each of this truck sold. Until then this will be in low volume production. Why do you think the Hummer EV hasn't been sold that many? The Foundation is a limited edition. The one selling most is sub $80k...
Looks like a great design. Sandy has a lead foot! Took it up to 100 mph pretty darn quick when getting on the highway. Lots of innovation. But very expensive and at 8000 pounds, that’s a pretty heavy vehicle, but most EVs in this class are quite heavy. The one thing I think is short sighted is not going with 800 volt architecture. It’s going to take a long time to charge this beast up.
Problem is cost. Very expensive to add to low trims so is exclusive to top trims. People buying work trucks are much more cost sensitive and GM said it wouldn't have made much sense. The WT is already overpriced for a work truck because of the massive battery pack.
If you option it that way, base models do not... Also Snugtop made the ONLY camper topper for Avalanche and I do not see anyone making one for this EV...
It also needs supercharger access and a buy now option, instead of having to go get lied to by dealerships. How are you going to charge a 200 kW pack without Tesla?
Charge port is located there for towing. GM and others are building more and more pull through charging stations. You want the truck and trailer to be centered along side the charger.
@@Ross-tv8bh Tesla has already opening up the v3 charging locations with the adapter. Adapter is a little bottlenecked but production will ramp quickly. Dealership is what it is. Legacy auto
I'll add another complaint. The wheels on this thing are huge and cause a rough ride because of tiny sidewalls and high tire pressure. Would be nice to have some smaller wheel choices to get more sidewall and more complaint ride. I know those options will come later on with lower trims but it would've been nice to see something smaller than 24's at launch as a smaller option
I don't know why you would be surprised about 4 wheel steering. GM had it available in 2002 on selected pickups. It worked very well. People just didn't want to pay extra.
@Sandy - you should speak a little about Apple's "magsafe" which has become the "Qi 2.0" wireless charging standard. Why - because the alignment of the wireless charging coils is very important and magnets to help align and "lock" into the right position is a really good idea. This is so much better than all the wireless charging pads that exist in most cars now that somehow no one seems to test to see if they'll work with a phone case. The real benchmark for these is that they must work with an Otterbox case.
The Escalade EV is out but I can't wait for the Suburban EV hopefully a Base 9 passanger with the smaller wheels and 500miles of range like work truck series with cloth seats etc
I love this truck in black 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤. It does have crab walk. I used to like the Cybertruck until I saw one in person . I can't see myself owning a Cybertruck for 25 yrs . But i can see myself owning a Chevy or GMC for 25 + years. Like I've own my 1998 gmc for 26 + yrs.
Paul’s little lecture on electric motors deserved better video graphic treatment. Why was the gentleman not featured on his own, facing the camera and equipped with drawings and tables of comparative numbers?
Just about everyone did, because of the CAFE standards. And Lead Acid was the only real option back then. They also used lead acid in the first gen of the EV1 which ended up really becoming the first real modern production EV. Trying to mock companies and engineers because of historical technological limitations is a new low.
Too bad they didn't make an electric truck for 70,000 dollars. Then, we could pay 500 to 600 dollars a month on fuel and oil changes put on a credit card and then pay 24 percent on the balance. Like gas trucks do every day? Do the math EV's are cheaper. I used to spend 5000.00 dollars a year. Now I spend ONLY 600.00 a year on electricity CHARGING AT HOME:)
One good alternative to the complexity, maintenance, and expense of rear wheel steering is, you know, learning how to drive. These are, after all, trucks.
I don't get the fascination for rear wheel steering. It's expensive and requires maintenance. Not having it is just one 3-point turn away from a U-turn.
GM needs to drop the price to 80,000 to qualify for the tax credit. Great job GM! The range is outstanding! Great competition for Ford and Tesla. The GMC version is also amazing. Just need Apple CarPlay. It’s crazy that the gas versions have CarPlay but the EVs don’t. Not smart GM.
Amazing that so many comments are comparing this to the Cybertruck, which so far is not a design lending itself to traditional truck uses. The battery pack in this thing is a bit larger than the lightning, if you need it. Just remember, the price tag will reflect that, which means that more local usage with light hauling could make the Lightning a more economical choice. The Cyber Truck is just a rich man's toy, showing off advanced tech in a strange-looking design, and the Rivian is designed more as a pleasure Truck, so they're not even in the running, but that could change. Anyway, isn't it nice to have at least two work truck choices right now?
I was at the Auburn Hills Tesla Superchargers last week and a Silverado backs in next to me. I had to get out and see what was going to Happen. A fleet plate. Young guy holding the NACS cable asks me "Where do I Put this?" I showed him how it doesn't match. I pointed him to the Juno chargers and said good luck. The truck was nice, but I test drove the Cybertruck recently, and it was way more than I expected. Sandy, how much is GM losing on each truck?
Nice. I'm leaning toward a Lightning right now because they've been out for a couple of years and presumably any new-product teething pains have been mostly addressed, but GM has been making the Bolt for some time - so.. It comes down to a deal I guess. No, not considering the CT even though I'm a Tesla S owner. It's fugly, expensive, and won't do what I want it to do as good as a legacy pickup will. EDIT: the Chevy is 2000lbs heavier than the Lightning at any trim level. No wonder it has a 200+Kwh pack! I'm also not a fan of rear-steering - something else to go wrong.
Kinda chicken before the egg. The Chevy is a ton heavier mostly because of the larger pack and there are some advantages over the Lightning that come with it. Double the range, double the DCFC speed, thermal capacity for towing, less load on each cell to stave off degradation. If you think the CT is expensive, the Silverado will be too.
The US companies must come together to manufacture electric systems at scale to win vs. the Chinese who have the natural resources to win the next automotive generation. Can't wait for the teardown to compare this GM battery system vs. the Ford and Stellantis and Tesla systems! Not buying one of these till they shave 50% off the price though to achieve parity with ICE!
the black out exterior is pretty nice and the trunk pass through is awesome(the look can be improved) but the lack of FSD in the future is going to be a huge pain point
I would be thrilled if the WT version was affordable. I don't need a mid gate. I would hardly use it. I can easily haul 12' length lumber. If I have a sizable amount and/or longer, I'll just use my trailer. Don't need 0 to 60 in 3 seconds. Don't need FSD. Don' t need bullet proof doors. Don't need off road capabilities. Don't need a road tripper. I just want an EV work truck. Affordable and utility minded. As far as options, I would select air compressor capabilities. Electrical outlets. Rear wheel steering would definitely be nice. Stuff you use as a utility vehicle. A truck. Not a driveway princess.
If they only didn't depreciate 50% in 2 years, auto manufacturers need to offer 18k to 24k mile/yr cheap leases and move depreciation off buyers or offer subsidized trade in on new EVs. I want to upgrade MYLR but am stuck underwater 10k
I would get one just to camp in my driveway, make coffee, blow up a raft to float in the pool, and most of all just to hammer the grid at peak usage, to cause a blackout. So American. Also would be cool to roll up next to a Lightning and yell at driver of it, "I have EIGHT parallel paths" ! What do you have????
It’s WAY faster charging than Cybertruck, so they didn’t want to bring that up. Never forget, Sandy Munro brags about the money he makes off Tesla stock. They’re HIGHLY biased.
@@MunroLive 2.5x longer charging time than a Model 3, and that's only if Tesla is nice enough to allow charging access in the future. So more like 15x longer to charge, if the charger is even available or working. 105k before dealship hidden fees too. I bet they still eat another 100k in cost just to make one, just like Ford. -95% margin on their EV branch. They literally would save money but not making trucks and buying the consumers a tesla outright. This is not a joke.
That's the least of the problem. Production won't ramp up since they make a huge loss on the vehicles. I wonder if GM is in business in 2 years and everyone loses their warrenty
Thought I have been reading that all EV sales are in the tank and resale is abysmal? If so, you might be able to pick a used one up next year for $40k.
