A New Model of Karma, Deep Sleep and Death

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In this video clip, Rupert gives a new interpretation of karma using the three states of waking, dreaming and deep sleep as a model.
Timestamps:
00:00 What is Karma and reincarnation
00:57 When we die, what happens to our energy?
06:14 Our belief on reincarnation and consciousness
08:32 Understanding the three states - deep sleep, dreaming and waking
15:05 What happens after death?
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@NadiaFranke 2 года назад

Rupert is a treasure to those who are able to grasp his explanation ! I'm grateful I've found him on YT.

@pattylevesque2601 Год назад

very very cerebral

@newearthpouya 4 года назад

12:08 Rupert is referring to this quote of the Bhagavadgita "What all beings consider as day is the night of ignorance for the wise, and what all creatures see as night is the day for the introspective sage."

@AnastaciaMary 4 года назад

This concept of the reversal of the three states of perception is delightful: it allows us to look around at our waking reality and to see it as the dream that it actually is. This brings to mind the endlessly wise childhood ditty that we all know: Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily: life is but a dream. There are so many of us who know this, but do we think deeply on it? The ditty admonishes us: don't take the outer world of your waking mind too seriously, and, whatever you do, be happy in your daily experience, and live life gently, never forcing, always allowing.

@fouad4172 3 года назад

Beautiful! Thank you 🙏🏼

@bacobill 7 лет назад

I find no empty holes in your talks.. no threaded beads missed.. I love it.. 25 years with ACIM and one would think I need nothing more or less but your words strike me like notes of a wonderful melody that has been playing for all eternity.. Much love brother.. I am well pleased ;)

@anbukkarasimanoharan775 5 лет назад

AWESOME EXPLANATION. EVERY WORD IS TRUE WHEN WE CONTEMPLATE DEEPLY.

@TheGeetha1950 3 года назад

I fully agree ,,such solace and comfort ...to know there is a larger pattern out there beautifully organised

@davidmeyers580 2 года назад

I too came through ACIM but only 3 years and found Rupert. Changed my thinking...

@haricharansharnagat 3 года назад

In this discussion, its is very important to bring out the role of what ancient Indian texts call "Suskhma Sharira" which means miniscule body. It is exactly what you have referred to as residual energy (of thoughts and emotions - add memories of all karma to that). It has a defined structure to it like our living bodies. It is what manifests dream state, and our alive state , and death as we know is just when it abandons the physical body for good (due to damage from natural withering or accident, or disease). It then manifests another body by entering into another womb. The wombs are like pre created templates , and depending on Karma and residual energy stored in Suskhma Sharira , a womb is picked. It could be of human, or animal etc etc. And Sukshma sharira is not the pure consciousness. It is a memory store having all all experiences and karma.

@lindaj71 2 года назад

Rupert’s words are golden. So helpful. I couldn’t be happier.

@BestInGlass360 Месяц назад

I’ve been referring to Rupert material for some years now. I grasp something new each time I sit and listen. Does anyone else find it really lonely when the people in Your life just do not seem to grasp the material in the same way?

@gwenelbro3719 8 лет назад

Gratitude for your crystal clear explanation of our true position; it is so obvious. Nothing is born and nothing dies. Om Shanti.

@QuantyG 10 лет назад

Rupert and teachers like him say exactly what the new sciences show about consciousness, oneness and all that, I love this combo!!!!

@gameone6597 6 лет назад

Gail Hodgson Yes these are not only interesting ideas but point one towards the ultimate truth. But FYI, these are not new, nor are they Rupert's own. They are Hindu philosophies & 'beliefs' that have been there for several thousands of years. Rupert and other such teachers (including Alan Watts, J.Krishna in the past) discuss the Hindu philosophy of Advaita (non-duality). Incidentally, modern science is indeed just beginning to start on this level of understanding of the consciousness. So far they have been object / material focused which the Hindu/Advaita teachers explain is not the ultimate reality. There are many other videos on the RU-vid, some directly by the Hindu/Indian teachers who are coming from rich traditional schools of these ideas, and have been living them. You might like to check out.

@chinthus9267 Год назад

To add on to GameOne, the Advaita text that deals particularly on the topic of 3 states (waking, dream, deep sleep) and the Turiya (pure consciousness ) that is common across all the states is the Mandukya Upanishad.

@moseva 11 месяцев назад

the profoundness and subtlety of the explanation is mind-blowing, yet it is so clear and straight. I"m bowled over, this guy is a gem

@piehound 3 года назад

I very much like Mr. Spira's non - dogmatic approach to these questions. Phrasing the ideas of consciousness, dream state, and waking as a better model . . . rather than claiming he has arrived at the definitive truth for all time. Bravo !!!

@onlyonerombo 4 года назад

I love this talk and what it points to. Once you see deep sleep as the true state and the waking state as the temporary one it starts to become normal and make more sense. In support of this is also the fact that True deep sleep is always the same...Nothing experienced, Dreams are sometimes experienced and always different, and the awake state is always experienced and different. If the Truth is defined as that which never changes then surely deep sleep is Reality and the awake state is the dream.

@mathrodite Год назад

If you take the deep sleep state as the "true" state, you have a problem. It's not self-aware.

@bethanienaylor Год назад

It's almost like we hold our breath and go down into the pool of the temporal world, the waking and dreaming states, and every night we have to come up for air.

@ecologiesofmindfulness564 6 месяцев назад

I am a person who has never or rarely had vivid dreams. I always feel like I’m entering into a black hole, of emptiness. A void. A nothing. Like formless form. And people think I’m not sleeping well because I don’t have vivid dreams, and I feel quite the opposite. It feels very restful there. I hear nothing and I see nothing and then as I wake up I feel like I’m exiting this black hole of empty form. Sleep experts say I should be dreaming or that I’m dreaming and I can’t remember. But I don’t even have the recollection of possibly even having a dream or waking up thinking wow that was a weird dream but I just don’t remember it. I just go into a void. It’s quite restful.

@jupavero 4 года назад

Thank you, Rupert, for this extraordinary perspective on the nature of reality and experience.

@blablblaaaaaaaaa 4 года назад

Rupert for the moment i never met you but your videos changed my life forever,your simple and clear way to express things is really something else and helped me so much,thank you thank you .

@robertrobson5900 9 лет назад

With out doubt Rupert's teaching, message is so important and true. Thank you Rupert

@phillipadams6735 6 лет назад

Brilliant! This matches almost exactly to some shamanic teachings that I have studied and experienced over many years. I really enjoy how well he puts his intellect and use of language into his conversations.

@Westeroni3 2 года назад

The dream is an absolute perfect metaphor

@MattyLiam333 2 года назад

I've actually started dreaming about myself meditating. Most pure meditations I've ever experienced. That has never happened until I listened to Rupert's dissertations. I'm grateful.

@truthnfreedomseeker 8 лет назад

I love it when someone offers a new way of looking at things! In this case, the perspective that consciousness came first and that everything is contained within consciousness. I find this reversal somehow liberating as well as a comforting. Thank you. I also appreciate your views on beliefs, and forward to hearing more of what you have to share.

@jamesvanderhoorn1117 6 лет назад

"a new way of looking at things" It's as least as old as the Upanishads :)

@doodlesnoodles5581 5 лет назад

It's ancient wisdom- the "perennial philosophy"- but Rupert sure does elucidate it well

@rajendrannair7981 3 года назад

Beautiful..nobody in my opinion has explained the three states so clearly..the great sages said the world is an illusion and left it at that ..that the majority of us trying to understand non duality cannot come to terms with because it is not our experience. Thank you Sir for your effort

@michaelclaridge492 Год назад

Love you Rupert :) - Its a pleasure to hear and then reflect on your explanations/concepts of reality. They make a great deal of sense to my experience and offer peace.

@kavithaogh2120 4 года назад

Brilliant, as always. Can't be enough thankful for this description of reincarnation based on 3 stage model.... amazing understanding. 🙏🙏🙏

@namratadevale4238 Месяц назад

Oh my God! So simply explained. Thank you Rupert for sharing your knowledge.

@johnburman966 4 года назад

Rupert you are a truly great teacher. As boundaries collapse and memories of experiences that were not fully understood come back, you help to integrate being. My deepest respect.

@ProlificDecibel 10 лет назад

Rupert is so clear and concise. amazing!

@JThomasP 5 месяцев назад

Beautiful perspective The beauty seems to be in the realization that the real is whole of the experience… both the ‘deep sleep and the waking.’ Well said, that all experience is “equally real.”

@krasimirnevenov4201 10 лет назад

Karma depends on our mode of thinking .Think of it more as a theme of thinking .If it is negative you get negative experience and if it's positive you get a positive experience.That's why in order to get positive karma you need positive theme of thinking ..the best way to do that is to do good things.So that you learn to associate your self whit positive "stuff".Get the experience you want to have and fall back to the self .Never lose sight of who you are .

@giantleaps 3 года назад

I am a student of ACIM and I am delighted to find you. There were concepts in ACIM that were challenging. Your words connect the dots for some of these ideas. When the student is ready, the teacher will come. I am ready and captivated. Thank you Rupert for your videos. Much love and gratitude to you.

@sandraekhoff8937 3 года назад

I m just wanted to say, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, INFINITELY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TEACHINGS!!!!!! Love you Rupert!!

@robertroberts6901 10 лет назад

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi speaks of seven separate states of consciousness each having distinct and identifiable conditions that can be measured, quantified and verified: Waking State, Dreaming State, Deep Sleep, Transcendental Consciousness, Cosmic Consciousness, God Consciousness and Unity Consciousness or Brahman. Each has its own physiological and experiential quality that influences perception of reality.

@ElanSunStarPhotographyHawaii 4 года назад

I am so deeply impressed by this work..it means everything to us in this "Matrix" of imposed belief systems..

@dominiquehouseaux2951 3 года назад

Thank You for opening challenging new perspectives on karma! So interesting!

@syna3469 Год назад

deep sleep itself, pure consciousness, vibrates within itself and takes the shape of mind, and appear as dream

@I-Am-Aware 5 лет назад

Incredible, insightful, well put!

@rafaelg6104 2 года назад

Incredibly insightful video. Thank you.

@onetwozeroyt Год назад

I was trying to understand the real meaning of those verses of Bhagavat Gita. Ruper maded it so clear. Also the model of reincarnation is well explained using the three states of experiences (and no experiences). Thanks

@mariagabrielabottiglieri972 4 года назад

Magnificent explanation. Thank you.

@Shane7492 4 месяца назад

Near Death Experiences confirm this. When the body dies, our consciousness transitions to a different dimension of reality. It's not much different than dying in a dream. When you die in a dream, your consciousness transitions to the waking state. Our consciousness is eternally transitioning between different dimensions of reality.

@ManicMage1 3 года назад

Best explanation I ever heard about Karma and it rings absolutely true to me. It's how I always suspected it to be. :)

@AutumnleafMind 10 лет назад

Dayam.....finally breaking thousands of years of holding us in false self perpetuating belief systems.....

@abby999 3 года назад

dayum indeed

@shilpa6795 Год назад

Brilliant explanation of Karma in the context of waking, dreaming and deep sleep. I was listening to B. Kastrup’s and he gave an example of a dream of a person with multiple alters and their actions impacting each other in a common dream state. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙏

@zatara11 3 года назад

I very much appreciate your grounded approach to all topics you disucss. Thank you

@kwaminaroberts514 5 месяцев назад

thank you rupert. it makes total sense (the 3 states) from a human perspective. iam experiencing my inner being for quiet some time and gained a lot of additional knowledge from it.. our inner being has kinda communicaiton or language (well.. sort of) but it cannot be understood in thoughts. this energie is part of a larger sysetem which is kinda incompatible with thoughts and all things physical. that‘s why we cannot perceive it. from the perspective of my being - there is more to it then just the 3 states. the 3 states waking, dreaming and being is merely one way.. all related to the direction of physical realm. our inner being itself is experiencing much more. 🙏🌼

@AutumnleafMind 10 лет назад

thank you Rupert for this..thank you.

@CY-sf2fv Год назад

Fascinating! The most convincing model before realizing by experience.

@lindaross783 Год назад

Thank you. I was ready to hear that just the way you said it.

@martin-hall-northern-soul 10 месяцев назад

This is one of the most profound dialogues I've ever had the pleasure to experience.

@sgkathy 5 лет назад

Wonderful presentation , thank you so much

@Queenie-the-genie 4 года назад

Thank you Rupert. For me, as a lucid dreamer, the waking state fear is totally gone and everything is beautiful or at least very interesting and non-harmful, I fly from dream to dream and I can dissipate fearful occurances in various ways. Is this because my teacher introduced me to this? He died a while back but he is still my teacher. When I asked him about reincarnation he said - "Do you think you are a ghost going in and out of bodies?" He was a Tamil Indian man with the title of Swami. He has a large following in India I'm told and a very small one here but he would come here and teach sometimes. I was lucky enough to have met him. You have probably never heard of him. I love him dearly.

@rexblogger8452 4 года назад

Where do yuu live?

@bpsyked1627 10 лет назад

very profound and illuminating.

@prasannabhat6047 6 лет назад

Was finding difficult to comprehend the English translation of Shankara and Gaudapada with outdated technical Sanskrit terms. Really love to hear the contemporary English version of the ancient but ever new philosophy of Be-ing, the one without beginning or end.Cleared some concepts I was feeling difficult to understand in Bhagavadgita alsoIncredible clarity of explanation. Thank you very much.

@bergspot 10 лет назад

Cristal clear! Thank you!

@user-lu9hq6jv4v Год назад

Very clear; thank you!

@THEUNDERCOVERMONK 5 лет назад

Very apt explanation..!!

@jacqueminekeersmaekers8524 2 года назад

Thank you Rupert ❤️

@edwardrussell7168 4 года назад

RS has stated something which needs careful reflection... I will work on it. Creating a higher consciousness which encompasses all else of our body and mind and its death? Is it possible to achieve in this life i.e. being aware of our death consciously and then moving to the hereafter? Brilliant...

@dianad3001 2 года назад

This was helpful. Thank you

@DLBurggraf 9 лет назад

The Kingdom of Heaven is within.

@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 3 года назад

Adbhut wonderful understanding. DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Thanks

@canelrachon 4 года назад

Beautiful. Thank you

@SumiOccult 4 года назад

Hey Rupert, I suggest you to check Dr. I Stevenson's study about reincarnation.

@glynemartin 9 лет назад

The most Real State must be that state which lasts the "longest". From our experience death is THE most final state and apparently continues to eternity. If deep sleep,(where we lose all awareness of body,mind and environment),is indeed closest to the "Death State",then it follows that we experience our truest reality when we are in deep sleep!.. This is precisely why going to stillness (mentally) is like a "conscious" rehearsal of getting familiar with Deep Sleep and Death.You are trying to marry the Deep Sleep state with the Waking State...."Death" therefore is being experienced regularly and becoming more familiar with it makes you less uncomfortable!!...Thank you a hundred billion times Rupert...you are THE BOMB!!!....

@dilipm79 7 лет назад

Beautifully explained!

@greensleeves7165 4 года назад

A lucid talk in many ways and I agree with quite a lot of it...with one important exception. I don't experience anything in deep sleep. No awareness. No experience. Nothing. Literally, nothing. Therefore it cannot possibly be "pure consciousness" but rather a precursor to consciousness which requires observation or experience to complete itself. Deep sleep is to me entirely indistinguishable in any practical way from the materialist's concept of brute nonexistence. I therefore question the existence of anything called "pure consciousness." If consciousness could exist as a purity, it would have no need of phenomena and none of us would be here. Consciousness is the process of the Absolute reflecting itself.

@perothing 2 года назад

Excactly! Awareness is prior to consciuousness.

@ivettea6358 3 года назад

Thank you again ❤️ Blessings 😊

@anastasiacosmicastrologer1508 4 года назад

deep, profound and soulful...

@simsav66 10 лет назад

Fantastico!

@trudymullally9760 6 лет назад

Thank you :) Brilliant

@matthewking7874 5 лет назад

great message

@devendrapurohit7300 3 года назад

Present Living Buddha. One thing is noticeable , he has not left the society and become a monk , he lives IN SOCIETY , and hence the rebellion of a Buddha is not against anyone. He simply plies a knife through a butter. I am from India and I know that HE is a Buddha. Pity I can't go there and sit at his feets for enlightenment. Great thing it's available on net , great only because it's a compromise . My heartiest love .

@karinlease6355 5 лет назад

How compassionate.

@HH-du4rc 3 года назад

I know I'm listening to this many years later but I just recently discovered you Rupert and I really love how you explain things. At about the 15-16 min mark you explain what happens to us after we 'die'. I have so many questions about this: 1) people that are not as aware and think they are going to see a white light tunnel - will they see that because that is what they believe? 2) is the point of no more mind/thought, a 'void' like darkness - in other words what does 'consciousness' feel like? 3) you said at some point thought conceptualizes a new body and a new world for us - can we stop that process and not come back? if so, any thoughts on what other possibilities there are? (maybe no one knows) and if not, is it a completely different world (not Earth) we come back to or do we just get a different body? Well I'll stop there I guess, ha ha..

@NadiaFranke 2 года назад

Rupert is a gift to those who have "ears to listen". He is objective and clear.

@HH-du4rc 2 года назад

@@NadiaFranke Thanks for writing because I watched it again just now and glad I did. Yes Rupert is a gift and he explained things very well and I have more understanding and knowledge of things than I did 10 months ago (better "ears to listen" with I guess). Still, this mind we have, is not ours, and my question about whether we can stop conceptualizing a new world and body to come to after this one, stands. "What" is doing the conceptualizing? The mind. And the mind is matter.

@NadiaFranke 2 года назад

@@HH-du4rc Brain is matter. Mind is what is stored to keep going from body to body. Each mind stores everything creating another physical body everytime we lose it through physical death. At least that's what I understood

@baltimorecastallano1 Год назад

Nobody knows til u gone...💯%

@pinkifloyd7867 Год назад

As far as understand, better to graduate this life term so I don't have to repeat this kind. Makes sense, wish me luck 😅🤣

@sandraekhoff8937 3 года назад

It is a COMPLICATED TOPIC that I need to investigate more!!!

@CrouchingTigerHiddenHogan 5 лет назад

This is simply brilliant! In Rupert's talks I see love (non-discriminated compassion), truth (profound knowledge) and beauty (quality of expression). Love, Truth and Beauty ...the manifest attributes of the Enlightened One.

@fxc5313 Год назад

Marvelous!

@lynnebailey6528 3 года назад

And Shropshire is beautiful...full of beautiful people. Xx

@studentofspacetime 4 года назад

Great explanation. But it actually perfectly corresponds to the Tibetan model, when understood deeply. The whole analogy with waking, dream and deep sleep states is built into the concept of bardos. That’s why Tibetans have “dream yoga” and “sleep yoga”.

@jonnyplat8117 7 лет назад

two worlds view- 1. i am body in the universe. 2. I AM the centre of my universe. 1 percieves 2 as ego through ego-fear, 2 knows 1 as ego seeking loving awareness, in percieving 1 through pure loving awareness, egoless fearlessness, 2 is clearly responsible in reality. A 2 view is 'the circle with no diameter has many centres, always the same view, expressed different ways.

@macbeavers6938 6 лет назад

"You are not a drop in the ocean. You are the entire ocean in a drop." Rumi

@AndreasDelleske 4 года назад

I would call it a belief that human consciousness exists while deep sleep. And I reject all beliefs unless there is proof. Then only it’s true. I haven’t seen proof yet. Why can’t we let go and accept that we don’t know what consciousness is besides what happens in or around humans and to a lesser degree in animals?

@venugopalsannidhi5824 6 лет назад

Thank You so much for the immense clarity. Crystal clear but simple guidance. Wish to be present when You come to Southern part of India or near by. How can I know, Your touring plan to India?! Can You Please..

@buddachile 5 лет назад

How about if instead of "deep sleep is most real and waking state is least real" saying "the state of deep sleep is closest to fundamental reality while the waking state is furthest removed from fundamental reality, but experiences in all states of consciousness are equally real in so far as they are all realized... equally"?

@constipatedbowels3473 5 лет назад

Dere z a dimension of awareness which z present in all the 3 states of waking,sleeping ,dreaming....itz called Turiya or the Fourth,as per Vedanta....we dismiss the states of deep sleep and dreaming as less real compared to waking states because we spend most of our time in waking state...but datz not justification enough........Turiya z best experienced when the thought process of da person comes completely to a standstill. ....but wid time,the person becomes aware of the presence of Turiya in all the 3 states....thus concluding,dat all the 3 states keep changing but Turiya z the only changeless constant.....hence all the state of consciousness even life and death are ephemeral events in comparison to Turiya which neither born ,nor dead....

@OpenMind3000 4 года назад

Awesome🚀

@joham8179 3 года назад

dude du bist ja überall :D

@maximaler 3 года назад

Dickkaaaa

@maximaler 3 года назад

@Brantley Drake why would I do this?

@redrawkblue 9 лет назад

If you're interested in models you could check out Siddharameshwar Maharaj who explains the "bodies" quite simply or the Tripura Rahasya or several of the books by Jaideva Singh regarding Kashmir Shaivism.

@humanoid8344 8 лет назад

commenting so I can come back

@humanoid8344 8 лет назад

fuck you BITCH btw if you never have you should check out that sidd guy he looks pretty cool love

@johnnywlittle 4 года назад

Rupert continues to blow my mind and up-end the world I thought I knew or believed in

@tomfool43 7 лет назад

Would this make the experience of 'waking up' in a lucid dream akin to the experience of enlightenment in waking life? Perhaps it is easier to start lucid dreaming than it is to achieve enlightenment because the dream state is one step closer to pure consciousness? Very neat :)

@Raffael_Armwrestling 6 лет назад

Yes! Very, very similar in fact! I've been practicing lucid dreaming for a few years and had a spiritual awakening a few months ago. I don't know if the lucid dreaming helped, but the experience of becoming lucid in a dream -waking up from your 'dream person' - feels very much like waking up from your 'real' person, from your ego.

@JumpingTurtle77 2 года назад

@@Raffael_Armwrestling i know this is a late reply but how did you learn to lucid dream?

@gregorwaach4866 6 лет назад

Many Thanks! :)

@simonc772 Год назад

He's a very good talker

@ivettea6358 3 года назад

Clearer and clearer :)

@billyoumans1784 4 года назад

According to Shankara, the consciousness is the 4th state,, turiah- But the dream model of reincarnation is fascinating. Thanks

@AlexHop1 Год назад

Thank you!

@user-ck6ly4st3v 4 месяца назад

I was not reincarnated in California, I was reincarnated in Hungary, but I have lived in Southern California most of my life. Either way, I feel I'm pretty lucky 😆. I'd prefer Maui though 😉. In my lifetime immediately prior to this one, I was one of the bad guys you referred to. In this lifetime, I'm the opposite, partly to atone for my karma in my last lifetime. I've also experienced in this lifetime being on the receiving end of others behaving toward me as I behaved toward others in that last lifetime. And what's amazing is that I have a twin flame, and he is the person I was being in my immediately prior lifetime. I am in no contact with him, we both must ascend before we can be together. And what's even more amazing is that my parents were also twin flames, and that's a story in itself. But in meditation, I have seen clearly how I have used karma, which is simply cause and effect, it's just a manifestation of Newton's third law of motion. Yes, mind continues, thank you. ❤❤

@nkastropil 4 года назад

So lovely to see Rupert belly laugh 😁😆

@igorkovpak1280 11 месяцев назад

That model looks like "Planet (matter) - Atmosphere (Noosphere/Mind) - Space (Pure Consciousness)". Remember "Noosphere" by russian professor Vernadskiy?

@cessbarsaga 6 месяцев назад

I've been reading Neville Goddard books and he says that conciousness is the only reality. What you are concious/aware of, will be your reality. This 3D reality/waking state is malleable.

@katkat092009 10 лет назад

Thanks for that. I have issues with the previous life theory. In my mind I see a black plane on which energy bubble emerges and I am this ever shifting ball of energy. It seems to me that's all things can ever be. Also in my experience I believe that whatever people dream up with manifest like karma and previous life and those things are in a way real. I am not into the life is a test and the host of explanations for suffering. I feel they are grasping for meaning we need. Or is that the desire of consciousness to have meaning of existance. Bottom line of my experience is energy vibration of things and that is the one common constant and dissipating into nothing.

@Heal_awaken_bliss 5 лет назад

Thank you

@donnsmith6482 7 лет назад

Rupert it sounds like you are making light of the Tibetan tradition. The ancient Masters also "experienced" what they were teaching and it --to them--was not a theory but a reality and i trust them and the Dalai Lama when they talk on these matters more than i trust a person who at least appears to be putting down their thousands of years of experience of the Bardos and of Reincarnation. Perhaps your experience is as valid and i do love the talent you have in talking about it to others and giving them a way to experience for themselves a deeper relationship with Awareness. Be careful though not to sound like a born again non-dualist! Others who see it differently could be just as right as you are and deserve resect and i think you have it but--again--during this talk there was a bit of "i know better" or "my experience is higher".. Thank you for making the effort to teach and help others along the way to be kinder gentler people. d