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A Nice Diophantine Equation | 3ˣ - x³ = 1 

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@misterdubity3073
@misterdubity3073 Год назад
There is also a non-integer solution at x = -0.84584 approx. Nice graph on Desmos 3^x vs x^3 + 1
@ubncgexam
@ubncgexam Год назад
There is also a 4th solution at x ≈ 3.2206447... 😉
@misterdubity3073
@misterdubity3073 Год назад
@@ubncgexam Good pick up. I didn't see it because I graphed what I graphed. Graphing 3^x - x^3 - 1 shows the zeros nicely.
@tontonbeber4555
@tontonbeber4555 Год назад
It's more interesting to solve it in reals ... 4 solutions :))
@MrGeorge1896
@MrGeorge1896 Год назад
Exponential growth beats polynomial growth so we just have to examine x = 0, 1, 2 and 3 and show that for x >=4 the LHS is strictly increasing. Negative values for x can be rejected as we would get fractions on the LHS.
@pedrovargas2181
@pedrovargas2181 Год назад
x = {0,2}, by try-and-fail. Third root, no idea. 8:40. a = 0.
@scottleung9587
@scottleung9587 Год назад
I also got both 0 and 2, but I just plugged them in.
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
Quoting John Scott: "Scott Leung's solution is best. Hands down. Always try this first when integers are required."
@nasrullahhusnan2289
@nasrullahhusnan2289 2 месяца назад
x=2 as (3^x)-x³=3²-2³ =9-8=1
@SG49478
@SG49478 Год назад
I have an issue with this method. Transforming an equation into a system of equations is not an equivalent transformation and has the potential for losing solutions. Your method finds 2 solutions, but lacks proof that there is no third one. Luckily there are no other integer solutions because it is relatively easy to proof that for x>2 the difference of 3^-x^3 is consistently increasing. To come up with 0 and 2 as solutions for x there are less complicated ways to do that. I like the approach of Random Jin, which is more straight forward and also includes proof, that there are no other solutions.
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
Factoring shows there are no others
@SG49478
@SG49478 Год назад
@@SyberMath I can't really follow you. Where did you factor the equation 3^b+3^a+1=3^2a+3? The equation itself is a sum.
@mmbudny
@mmbudny Год назад
It's been 46 years since I've worked these kinds of problems, and I enjoy revisiting techniques that I've forgotten decades ago. However, other than using Desmos, is there a technique to determine the 2 non-integer solutions? That's what I started and got stumped.
@GsBabu-sk6iv
@GsBabu-sk6iv 8 месяцев назад
Roger is bad at math.
@rakenzarnsworld2
@rakenzarnsworld2 Год назад
x = 2
@msmbpc24
@msmbpc24 11 месяцев назад
X=0 or X=2
@MR..mohamedelsayed
@MR..mohamedelsayed Год назад
The equation has 4 solutions if we follow the analytical solution. We notice that the (3^x) exponential function intersects with (x^3+1) the real function. There are 4 points, two of which are easily accessible either by trial or by methods that we might consider algebraic, which are {0, 2}. However, there are two other solutions. Can we reach them through algebraic methods and not graphical? This is the topic of research and discussion. Thank you to the channel owner for the ideas presented.
@premkumarsr4021
@premkumarsr4021 Год назад
Beautiful. No words to express my happiness
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
Glad to hear that! 🥰🧡
@johnscott3484
@johnscott3484 Год назад
Scott Leung's solution is best. Hands down. Always try this first when integers are required.
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
😉😁
@scottleung9587
@scottleung9587 Год назад
Thanks so much!
@vladimirkaplun5774
@vladimirkaplun5774 Год назад
As at x=4 3^4=81 while 4^3 is just 64 and (x+1)^/x^3 is definitely less than 4 only x=0,1,2,3 should be tested. No number theory, nothing
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
Nice!
@andypandy6063
@andypandy6063 Год назад
This one was really fun.
@PROTAEQUESO98
@PROTAEQUESO98 Год назад
x = 2
@kianmath71
@kianmath71 Год назад
X =2
@jpbobinus1377
@jpbobinus1377 Год назад
Please, why is this equation diophantine?
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Год назад
We are only interested in integer solutions
@zawatsky
@zawatsky Год назад
До сих пор не понимаю, зачем расписывать решение уравнения, которое решается простой подстановкой.
@-rahul-2908
@-rahul-2908 Год назад
huh? what's the substitution
@zawatsky
@zawatsky Год назад
@@-rahul-2908 ну, я просто сначала подставил 3, а когда не получилось - 2. )
@-rahul-2908
@-rahul-2908 Год назад
@@zawatsky Ah, okay - хорошо
@MathsScienceandHinduism
@MathsScienceandHinduism Год назад
Today I did a proof of geometry on my own. Theorem: In every triangle, at least one altitude from one of the vertices lies inside it. Proof by me: Let ΔABC be a triangle that has all it’s altitudes lying outside it. We know that if an angle of a triangle is obtuse, then altitudes from other two vertices lie outside the triangle. Now since all altitudes of ΔABC lie outside, then at least two of it’s angles must be obtuse. So, let ∠A and ∠B be obtuse. ⇒ ∠A+∠B>90∘+90∘ ⇒∠A+∠B>180∘ ⇒∠A+∠B+∠C>180∘ But, ∠A+∠B+∠C=180∘ So, we arrive at a contradiction and our assumption was wrong. ⇒ No two angles in a triangle can be obtuse and at least one altitude of every triangle lies inside it. Hence Proved. Thanks.
@ubncgexam
@ubncgexam Год назад
And I prooved the Rieman's hypothesis... But as once Fermat stated "the margin is too small to write it down"😂😂😂... WTH you are proving? 😮🙄🙄
@walterwen2975
@walterwen2975 Год назад
A Nice Diophantine Equation: 3^x - x^3 = 1; Find the integer solutions of x 3^x - x^3 = 1; 3^x > x^3, x ≠ 1, 3 > x ≥ 0 First method: When: x = 0; 3^x - x^3 = 3^0 - 0 = 1; Confirmed When: x = 2; 3^2 - 2^3 = 9 - 8 = 1; Confirmed Second method: Let: x = 2y 3^x - x^3 = 3^2y - (2y)^3 = (3^2)^y - (2^3)(y^3) = 9^y - 8(y^3) = 1 When: y = 0, x = 2y = 0; 3^x - x^3 = 9^y - 8(y^3) = 9^0 - 8(0) = 1; Confirmed When: y = 1, x = 2y = 2; 3^x - x^3 = 9^1 - 8(1^3) = 9 - 8 = 1; Confirmed Final answer: x = 0 or x = 2
@goldfing5898
@goldfing5898 Год назад
9:32 The solution x = 0 can easily be found by guessing, also the solution x = 2. I would use graphs of the functions to watch for potential other solutions, and maybe some calculus.
@jmlfa
@jmlfa Год назад
I don't get it. It took me two seconds to figure out that x=0.
@MushookieMan
@MushookieMan Год назад
But that's only one solution...
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