A Plague Tale Requiem - 60FPS Performance Tested - PS5 vs Xbox Series X 

One of the best devs around for sure! I'm in love with their work.

Can we really call them AA at this point? I'd say they are a AAA dev. I do agree though. Osobo is awesome

TLOU & Jedi survivor both run more consistent on my high end rig than this game. No matter what you do this game has pretty bad stuttering, running DLSS 3 with the output framerate being less than your monitor refresh seems to be the most consistent, but it's finicky.

@@maxpeterson3178 Fair enough. I guess the designation is helpful only in terms of how much resources the developers had available for their project. The game is obviously more than able to compete with releases that had several times the budget of Requiem.

​@CGS: Conversations in Game Studies yeah it's based on available budget and resources. Although an exact measurement isn't clear.

100% agree, I rather have less grass than it popping up as I get closer

Reason why I can't play Forza horizon 5 in performance mode

​@@SirLancelotSseries x is a joke.

Witcher 3 should take notes. Grass pop up sucks on that game

@@JohnDoe-pu5gk worst gaming platform ever

i tried the 60fps mode on Jedi Survivor and it dropped the resolution and fidelity so much that I couldn't play it. It's very fine in 30fps though (Series X)

The game still looks amazing in the 60fps performance mode.

@@Z3ROMyth I always prefer 30fps. The sharpness and detail on rocks etc.

@@Z3ROMyth I think the lack of animals in the streets is a turn-off for me, I want to be immersed in this era, feel the medieval city. It's empty without that detail

Wait, the 40 fps mode is not available anymore?? This was the best mode by far.

The graphics are good, but the game itself can be extremely tedious with repetitive actions and scenarios. Very frustrating at times

release a basic feature half a year later instead of releasing a finish product?

@@juanjose9686 yeh that sucks

@@reach5589 IMO, you just described 90% of all games released.

​@David Andrew imo? Lol, who are you king charles

Technically speaking, 40fps is the exact haltway point between 30fps and 60fps single frame time.

I was hoping they'd cover the 40 FPS mode here and don't understand why they didn't..? Was that in the launch version of the game and what resolution did it run at (assuming DRS up to 1440p)?

​@@sugonmaballs 15:00

​@@izzieb Ahh, missed that somehow. Thanks!

@Leiapetz He covered it for 20 seconds. Stfu 😉

I don't think the cuts were that necessary. Cause if you have a 120 vrr screen you can get upwards of 70-100fps. That means for a lock 60 they sacrificed a bit too much. I think they could have dialed back some of the cuts and they probably would have kept that lock 60. But i would choose all day every day is 40fps balance mode. Best of both worlds.

Exactly. Give players the choice. I thought I was all team frame rate until I realized I chose resolution over performance most of the time in the last 5 current gen games I've played. On the flip side several last gen games I wouldn't have played or replayed if not for the 60fps boost.

Something is weird about this you mentioned that both the unlocked and locked performance modes run at the same visual settings. And the unlocked mode run at 80 to 100 fps with rats refreshing at 60 ! , So if the game can run the rats at 60 fps in the unlocked mode while achieving over 80 fps, why would they limit the rats refresh to 30 in locked performance mode ! There is clearly a huge performance overhead even when rats and npc refresh at 60 fps.

@@mohamad-abdo Underrated comment! 100% agreed, this game's performance is still broken even after this patch. Why not run everything at 60FPS if the game hardly ever drops to 60FPS when in 120FPS mode at 1080p with all the other cutbacks... Amazingly Tom didn't mention the worse shadow quality and I find it utterly ridiculous that CPU is being hammered so hard by a few ducks, geese and children as well as by a couple patches of grass... in fact if CPU is the biggest bottleneck why are those simple things eating so much performance that they must be axed and 300,000 strong swarm of rats are allowed to run at 60FPS? It's all nonsense but the PC gamers really believed this was another one of those "master race" pieces of software proving why PCs are the better platform, looks like none of that was true. This game should've run at a flat 60FPS and offered 120FPS day one. Just imagining when they might drop the 4K patch.

@@VariantAEC i believe if they thought if it ran at 60fps without these compromies they would face even stronger backlash for not adding performance mode at launch. So they decided to make it as if they sacrificed too much and needed too much tweaking in order to get there, which would make this delay justifiable in the eyes of consumers. However the unlocked performance mode suggests much higher head room than anticipated ! Even when rats run at 60 fps! So why would they limit their refresh rate to 30 at 60 fps mode when the game has 45% performance overhead when the rats refresh at 60 fps ! Maybe nividia their sponsor would be mad because the game was used to flex their 40xx series, and the only way they could show the power of these gpus is by artificially limiting the competition! Gotta hate this corporate shit

You mean Rats Tale? Right?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

They're trash games.

@RE4LiFeZoMbiE89 And you're a trash gamer...so you should fit right in. 🤣 😏

@@ZombiemanTemple no, story wise and also for the atmosphere these are fantastic games.

​@@ZombiemanTemple Bad take.

What i find is funny that up until this year everyone kept saying ditch in-house and just use ue4. Now everyone is saying the opposite. Lose lose situation for devs. They listen and they get yelled at. They don't listen they get yelled at.

@@densetsu4286 I think everyone should use ID's engine. It's so efficient and scalable.

@@ryancbarrett96 not everyone makes fps games

This game launched in a state and is now ok... will you give other devs the same energy after they fix their messes post-launch?

Or the mid gen upgrade 😉

Sadly they didn't add an unlocked FPS option for the quality mode. That could possibly run at ~50 FPS or more in a lot of areas, which would be excellent for people with VRR screens, though that would need low frame rate compensation implemented

@@Crimsongz that is not happening.

@@Sr_Acachapante not on xbox. xbox vrr goes down to 40fps iirc

@@GraveUypo See you next year lol

Totally agree

"unlike before when the devs would release an actual finished product" We've literally been saying this since 2005 when the x360 ps3 generation made downloadable patches normal. Even before that in PC gaming you could very well buy broken game and then get a patch mailed to you on a floppy disc months later that fixes it, like Bethesda did this with the first 2 elder scrolls games. This is not a new phenomenon, publishers have always tried to rush deadlines and push out games before they're ready, since the beginning of video games.

​@@kebm1388 yet it has never been any where near as bad as the last few years

Thank god for Game Pass then eh? Sux if your on ps5!

Except Nintendo Games. Most of the time, Nintendo never release a game unfinished. Like the last Zelda on Switch!

ah yes, breathe of fresh about doing something that it should've been there at lunch. much wow, great studio indeed

@@chibii-chan047 it definitely would have been nice to see it at launch but they’re a relatively small studio and the game looks great and really pushes the hardware so I can understand why it took a little longer. There’s bigger game studios with worse looking games that run worse such as redfall. I think Asobo can get a pass.

​@chrome yeah and also if you had vrr it was available at 40fps. I wouldn't say that's optimal but it definitly is much better than Gotham knights 30fps

@@chrome2569 they have more than 250 employees

@@_MegaMind_ Not all 250 employees are on the Plague Team. Those 250+ people are divided among at least 3 teams: Plague Team, Flight Sim and Holoforge. Each of which works of wildly different projects.

It's pretty jarring to see 30fps animations while everything else is running at 60fps lmao. That's the first thing that we try to mod out on PC when they put this shit into games. Capcom does this all the time and thank god we are able to remove this limitation.

I have an OLED monitor with no ability to turn off motion 'smoothing', which makes 30fps looks like 10fps on my screen, so 60fps mode was definitely needed.

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 that isn't a thing. there is 100% a way to turn of interpolation in any screen

@@GraveUypo You obviously know a lot more about my monitor than either I or my monitor's manual do.

​@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 he's not wrong though. Every TV/monitor has the option. Some are harder to find than others, but the option is there. One of my TV's I couldn't find the option, so I would set it to "game mode" and it would automatically disable the motion interpolation whenever I turned my console on

Xbox has far higher memory bandwidth in its 10GB faster memory, but we also need to remember the series x is technically more powerful so that work on Flight Sim might have allowed them to optimize it easier, because thats already CPU intensive game

Most uncapped games actually run better on the ps5 . So I don’t know what you are talking about . Ghost wire on 120 vrr mode was higher 20 frames on the ps5 . War zone 2 also runs higher 10-15 frames on the ps5

Usually, the ps5 is outperforming xbox. This is one of the few that is the opposite.

I mean they have more experience with the xbx consoles so it's not thar wild lmao

@@Tranquildbeats its ironic that the other platforms game sales also favour the PS5 but Asobo and MS have a partnership. I wonder if MS going to purchase them if they willing to sell because its one of those Insomniac+PS scenarios

Exactly, I wonder if that's unintentional. Maybe another patch will fix that.

Right? Seems like a big oversight to not comment on this.

I have VRR so I don’t want it smooth and consistent I want it uncapped

Backwards compatibility on Series X too. Playing all Call of Duty xbox 360 games at a locked 60fps on the SX is very nice.

10.3 Tflops and 99% people will use 60fps lock anyway so they won't care it's dropping to 70 fps

@Transistor Jump who lying?

@Transistor Jump the PS5 Is 9.2 Tflops. And it is weaker than the series X

@@Radek494 that 10.3 isn’t sustainable. You guys don’t know how to read. Even digital foundry said this. The GPU and CPU can’t both run at its top frequency. Do some research.

@Transistor Jump it can “go up to 10.3 teraflops” it’s not running at that speed all the time. You need to do some research. A simple google search is all you need to do.

Not yet using DX12? What?😂 Xbox has been using DX12 since 2013 with Xbox One

the problem is the specs of both systems in terms of just raw performance would be something from 2017-2018 in the PC space if optimisation wasn't a problem. i think with asobo here, they paired it back too much, as theres plenty of overhead on the 120hz mode. so all the animations could been done at 60fps and maybe a resolution bump to 1440p would clear up the 1080p blurry ness.

​@@16valveBravoSpoonz Agreed, but what I'm not seeing here is many of the much discussed next-gen features of the new hardware (specificity Xbox) being used to give an experience that was promised....and we're getting on for 3 years in now.

Nope

It's hardly better in the one mode where you need a frame rate counter to even know... Are you looking at the frame counter while playing? The extra immersion the dual sense ads gives the PS5 a clear win for experience

​@@AdamAdamHDL you said it. You dont know the difference unless you have a frame counter. That will be on your head stone. Now when another game comes out and is slightly better on ps5 you wont be giving that same bravado.

@@Gh05tm4ch1n3 My headstone will read "your mother is down here with me". And yes I will still maintain that frame counters are nonsense, sitting here with specialist software to dissect the various versions of the game is utter nerd talk. I'm always on a locked mode. Solid frames even at 30 are better than unstable frames at 90.

@@AdamAdamHDL ur dumb. Even an unstable 90 is better then a stable 30.

🙌

These days, it's rarely worth getting a game as soon as it comes out. You're much better off waiting.

@@pan5001 Agreed. Dying Light 2 was the last game i purchased day 1 and that was my final lesson learned lol

This is how it's always been. I would rather they take their time and release performance mode in a good shape. Just look at horizon forbidden west. Performance mode launched with horrible graphics and it took 6 months for them to fix it. Performance mode on Jedi Survivor doesn't even run at 60 fps all the time. Elden Ring also doesn't run at a fluid 60 fps

i haven't played it yet :) Looking forward to playing it. But I should get a new TV that supports 4k120

@@huawafabe Oh nice. Enjoy.

We haven't seen their true potential yet. Not even close. Mostly lazy upgrades of lastgen, crossgen games and games like Plague that can definitely run better. Let's not forget that even Innocence had issues on PS5 and XSX. Third party devs will be like that, the true potential we will see it from first, second party studios.

if you were conned, you chose to be. they were pretty transparent with the specs from the get go. if you know the first thing about how to interpret them, you knew EXACTLY what to expect. and yes they can run 4k60. the kind of game that was coming out before they released, they could. But BECAUSE they have launched, render targets shot up, and devs don't consider shooting for 4k60 essential. it's same thing as a 2080ti launching as a "true 4k60 ultra gpu" but is now considered a 1080p high gpu.

Blame the devs not the machines

It's supposed to come at the end of next year.

@Transistor Jump Bro instead of taunting him , go refresh your knowledge about the ps5 specs especially about the custom RDNA 1.5 GPU.

Well there are no sales on the xbox, so why would you invest ?

@@SWOTHDRA That's made up. There are studios saying they made more money from the Xbox version of their game than PS because of better exposure in the marketplace. So even though there are plenty more PS's out there than Xbox's, it isn't a guarantee your game will do better on the PS platform. Xbox games are selling fine, even games that are on Game Pass.

Finally, someone has the balls to state the truth. I enjoy both consoles at home but it's easy to see which one studios have been playing favorites with. Except for Asobo, it seems.

That's why 120 HZ TV'S are a blessing this generation you could have played in 40 fps mode.

@@Radek494 Im so happy to have a 1080p 144Hz Monitor so i can use 40 FPS on some games on my series X

It depends on the game and what's being cut, in many cases, 30fps looks ok on things in the distant, but with so many rats up close, it looks jarring playing at 60fps whiles so much is happening at 30fps. I think they would have been better reducing the number of rats, after all, do they really need 300,000 rats in such a small confined area?

@@paul1979uk2000 I think the number of rats would start to affect gameplay in some scenarios which is probably why they did the reduced rate instead, but yeah it's visually jarring.. But it feels so much better to play that it's still a nice feature to have IMO

It's not bad, frame times are a lot better than 30FPS. 60FPS is still preferable but I can live with 40 on a single player game like this.

@@BasePuma4007 Agree! 40 on competitive titles probably won't do that good, we need 60. But for single player games 40fps+ is great, something about the frametimes being in the middle of 30 and 60, makes 40fps feel way better than 30. We have to remember we are getting this performance out of a $400 console, so cant be demanding too much

Same. 1080 on any game for me looks blurry af on my big ass OLED tv

27 inch 4K monitor here, 1080p still looks fine, win for me

No

Exactly what I was thinking. Why did Digital Foundry not cover this? Perhaps it’s because the ps5 can’t keep up with the Xbox series X. They’ve got to cater to the majority of there fanbase after all!

No they don't need to buy another studio. They need to create their own studios.

@@kostasbousbouras2654 lmfao... no one is "creating studios"

@@kostasbousbouras2654 Sony did create Naughty Dog or insomniac…they buy and nurture alot of their studios. Why can’t Xbox?

Returnal was already this way lol

游戏很好玩，故事我很喜欢，只是法国口音有点儿缺点。

@@LaoShimazaki 有中文語音啊

It's not the same engine. It changes everything.

I disagree. First, Horizon is a cross fen title at the end of the day. Meaning if it can run on a base PS4 and look relatively similar, it is considerably easier to hit 60 on the PS5. The issue is the sheer number of rats on screen during sequences, which Horizon has nothing comparable to. I also think Requiem has more of a photorealistic look and each scene is packed with microdetail. But more than anything this is a small studio, where Horizon is a tentpole Sony IP with a massive staff pool and ancillary support. And even with all those resources it still took months to fix the shimmering and other issues in Performance Mode when that game launched. I loved both games, and platinum’d both Horizon and Burning Shores, but there’s just a lot more here than ‘this game could do it so why can’t this game’.

Wow giving praise to a cross gen ps4 game versus a next gen high fidelity game? One looking like a cartoon and the other looking more real? Jesus you guys are brainwashed

It's not about the looks, Plague Tale Requiem is usually CPU bound at 1080p and more often than not, even at 1440p bc of so many AI character scripts running at the same time. Horizon is more graphics focused and doesn't have that many AI working at the once, making it easier to reach 60fps. Next Gen isn't just about higher resolutions and/or more detail, there are a lot of improvements that are more underneath the hood.

Burning Shores is terrible.

I actually still prefer it lol

@@RayVa0 This is a slower paced game where 60fps is not a necessity. And you get to enjoy the higher quality visuals at 30/40 fps. Just wish I had the option to try both when the game launched.

I don't understand you, cause ps5 has also 60fps.!?

….?

Lmao cope harder lol

Youre on a shitterbox with shitty exclusives. Stop trying to hype this up 😭

I think it is, the 30fps is 1440p with their own upsampling to 2160p and the 60fps is 1080p with TAAU to 1440p.

It never/rarely is. Good things come to those that wait. The only reason to play these incomplete/unoptimized games at launch nowadays is if you want to join the discourse surrounding a game, you are unbearably hyped to play a game, or you have no hope that a studio cares enough about the performance of their game to improve it down the line (looking at you FromSoftware and Elden Ring).

Nope