A Player's Guide to Flesh and Blood | EP01 | Counterfeits 

I'll have to check this out when I get home! I was only familiar with the two on the back. :)

@@ravenousbabble yeah, it's right on the corner of the bottom right. The diagonal line on the corner.

@@thai33oz Hey, look at that! Thanks for the info! :) Comment pinned for reference! ^^

There’s another check on the back too. The TM in the FAB logo and the swirling lines are in different layers. The TM itself is in the dot layer, the swirls are overtop of it and cuts off part of the bottom of the T and cuts the left leg off the M in a real card but are indistinguishable in fakes. Had a fake AoW come into my store that looks almost exactly as bad as that C&C

@@surbon110 Yep! Layered printing is your friend, lol. :) It's very strange, because the front of the card appears to be done with layered printed. But yeah, the TM is another good tell. I might make an updated video in a month or two with all the additional information we've collected from this one. :) Plus, my video quality should be better by then. ^^;

Yeah, it's quite surprising! At least if you have a loupe, you're safe. :) They can't get MTG 100% correct either (the green dot test). Thank you for watching!

Of course! And awesome! Always happy to have more LGS' around! ^^

Of course! Yeah, Marvel's had crossed my mind recently too. The one upside is that they likely cannot counterfeit the Cold Foils yet, which Marvel's have been thus far. :) Thanks for watching!

Yeah, they're pretty damn good in FAB. Seems like they have a big problem with matching the backs of the cards though, so that's good!

@@ravenousbabble Not sure if it's a real problem for chinese counterfeiters. I mean those who actually make these cards are not the ones that try to sell them as authentic ones. Usually they are sold as proxys. (even when they are counterfeits) and then people who buy those are the ones that try to scam others. Either way It's really shady business and people who scam others, should be banned from any selling platform.

You're very welcome!

Glad I could be of assistance! ^^ Thanks for watching!

@@ravenousbabble Coming back to praise again - just got a Spring Tunic in the mail from E-Bay - was able to quickly tell it was counterfeit. Thanks again!!!

@Jason Kuhn Very happy you caught that! I hope getting your money back goes smoothly, ebay is usually good about counterfeit items. :) Awesome! Hope you can get yourself an authentic one soon!

Always buy from verified sellers on TCG myself.. eBay is full of scams

Yeah, that's generally very consistent with MTG counterfeits. I've seen very few that do print in separate layers, but you can still tell them apart if you know what to look for. Something weird about FAB counterfeits, the front of the card appears to be printed in layers, but not the back of the card. It's a little worrisome, but I don't think it's too much of a concern just yet (though this is why I focus on the back for the loupe tests). You can tell that they use layered printing on the front with a loupe, because the text doesn't blend in with the print patterns on the rest of the front side, unlike the back side. I hope that makes sense. D: But yeah, that seems to always be the downfall of counterfeiters...that and not having insanely high-end printers, lol. Thank you for watching btw! ^^

Another tell that I've seen mentioned before that has to do with layered printing is that there is a small gold TM to the bottom right of the logo on the back. There is a small amount of black ink that crosses over the bottom of the T and the side of the M. Don't personally have a fake to compare but I recall it looking pretty blurry on the fake.

@@ravenousbabble yeah usually the backs will give it away more so than the front.

@@jasonu8981 Yeah, I've also seen this. :) I found the print patterns in general to be more consistent, from the various print runs. But yes! That is definitely a good was to tell if the back of the card is layered properly. :)

This was one of my first videos, so they should've improved a little bit, I hope! I've been meaning to redo this one though. Little bits of additional info, better footage, etc. 😊

Of course! Glad to be of assistance ^^ Hope your Three of a Kind is good! It's important to keep these tests in mind, since a lot of newer players can be thrown off by the different print runs (Belgium and Japan). :)

Seems to be fine luckily 😀

Absolutely! Thank YOU for watching! :P

Yeah, I haven't seen an authentic Eye with the fabled symbol yet, but they could be out there! Maybe! Lol

@@ravenousbabble It was only the 1stwave print run for Unlim that was missing the fable symbol

Thank you! 😊

Yeah, foils are a bit hard to capture on camera in general. :( The foiling on both in is the correct locations (art deisgn wise), but the authentic one will have more depth to it, and the counterfeit is more flat (and will hit a larger area). The counterfeit foils also feel...less intense, if that helps! I could go over them in another video if you'd like! :)

I agree, but the identification methods are consistent, which is excellent. Though, I've had many people believe their cards to be fake when they get an oddball from another print run, lol.

"This is the way."

Awwyeah! 😎 Hah, welcome to the channel, and thank you!!

Not that I'm aware of. So, hopefully those will be safe for a long time! Specially since you can already easily tell with RF. :)

I assume they're fairly cheap to produce. But they're generally made in China.

Consequence of letting comparatively lawless countries do our manufacturing.

Cold Foils cannot be easily faked at the moment, so I'd say the Dragons are safe!

I appreciate the feedback! I do agree, I actually had cut it down a little ^^; I will be working to make it shorter, but I didn't want a "set in stone" opening until I had some assets created :) Thank you!!

I don't believe that this is 100% factual, since my Eye isn't a Cold Foil. But, I also don't know if they corrected this is a later print run of CRU, since I haven't seen one with the symbol just yet.

@@ravenousbabble Cru 1st ed was the first run where the 1st edition used the circular symbol, which then became the symbol for 1st ed print runs going forward, and is now the standard symbol design for 2.0 (Uprising and Dynasty)

I will try to figure something out in the next video. :( I've also noticed that my screen recording is oddly bright, I think I've found a fix for that.

Booooo! :< Where's the /s??

Lmao

Their printers are in Belgium and Japan. :)

@@ravenousbabble if they went to Cartamunti and the Japanese, why do they have counterfeits? I thought those companies held confidentiality and were legit versus the Chinese printers?

@@sgr7th I'm not sure what legal action can be taken when it comes to international law with China and New Zealand, so Idk. :(

@@ravenousbabble I never said anything about New Zealand. What does New Zealand print behind people's backs like China? What I wanted to know is Cartamunti and Japan still reliable as a printer that wont violate their clients.

@sgr7th Flesh and Blood is based out of New Zealand. I don't believe that either printers would do anything in bad faith, it's just normal counterfeiting.

You're probably thinking about how you can use proxies, alters, or whatever for Heroes, specifically because they're considered tokens. Counterfeits are not allowed in competitive gameplay. I can't imagine James White has ever said otherwise.

that isnt correct. Proxies are not allowed in tournament play outside of Token cards, which are in abundance.

Sometimes I'll buy counterfeit packs of Pokémon cards at the flea market, because those are hilarious. 😂

It becomes an issue when people try to pass them off as authentic cards, when selling and trading. I can assure you that those people care.

@@ravenousbabble those people are fools 👍 it's just cardboard

@GigaBoost They are indeed. I have no issues with proxys when used appropriately. In fact, I encourage it!

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Most definitely! Thanks for watching!