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At 0:03 you can see a hydraulic line blow off the top of the machine, and a geyser of hydraulic fluid starts spraying into the air. It's doing a great job of aerosolizing that hot oil and moments later it finds an ignition source. The fire initially burns as you might expect, mostly confined to a surface (the ground) and putting off thick black smoke. That phase of burning does not last long, a few seconds, with more fuel constantly being added the fire grows bigger and hotter, hitting flashover at 0:19 give or take a second. Note the *dramatic* increase in brightness. The roof starts shedding debris, which is not surprising considering it's being subjected to the demonic cross between a fuel air bomb and a blowtorch.
@@polistirenn Good question! The way to evaluate a potential scenerio is to think about what it would look like if it happened and check how closely that matches observable evidence. The man is holding an oxy-acetaline cutting torch and lights the flame at the same time as the machine blows the hydraulic line. Its crazy how close the two events coincide, but lets consider each part individually before getting to possible interactions. The man is dressed in his regular work clothes but notably absent is the appropriate PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). He may be wearing a glove on his left hand but certainly not on his right (Probably so he can use a pocket lighter to light the torch. Thats much more conveniant than using the friction striker which is bulky/combersome but doesn't require dexterity. You know, so you can put on heavy gloves on both hands THEN light the torch) Also he's wearing a long sleeve shirt which is all kinds of yikes. Lastly, since you turn on the gas before lighting the torch there is some extra combustable gas in the air. Thats normally not a problem, the torch flares very slightly when struck then quickly settles down. Overall this is definitely a potential ignition sorce. The machine provides the fuel, hydraulic fluid, which is basically oil. Thats flamable, but its not very volatile, a.e. it doesn't vaporize well. The white cloud of spray we see is mostly technically liquid, just in droplets of various sizes. Some vapor is definitely present, and an expanding vapor cloud WILL ignite when it reaches an ignition source, producing a large flare thats roughly spherical. A rain of flamable liquid, however, has to actually fall on or very near an ignition source and fires start wherever the shower lands. If the man had been showered with oil to any substantial degree he would have lit up like a human torch, especially since he was holding an excellent ignition source. The inital fires are all on or around the machine, and only start when the shower of hydraulic fluid falls to the ground. Theres also plenty of possible ignition sources around there.
@@StarlightSocialist Thank you for this information!! I know nothing about this workplace (or how combustion works), so to me it looked like a water hose suddenly started spitting fire. 😂
@@StarlightSocialist Thank you for this detailed explanation, I really appreciate you sharing your expertise! It’s cool to try and understand these crazy chemical reactions.
Thank you for informing people. It's just a shame that more people in this comments section won't see this. It's just a bunch of idiots asking what happened, or thi king aluminum can catch fire. Or that tbe plant is made of paper.
Good to teach kids to respect fire, had part of a hedge burn, years ago as a kid, down which all ended up fine but it surprised me that the small fire was suddenly huge 10-15 seconds later, even towering above our house (which is like 7.5m I think? Not sure in inches sorry)
@Grivian ah yeah but then vertical, scary. The flickering on surfaces is also very typical, had a small oven fire once and noticed it due to the flashing (some baking paper touched the heating element)
This is actually the reason why we don't install flammable oil fountains on metal extrusion machines anymore. It's sad, really, they always were a hit at children's birthday parties.
@@lewissthompson2005 haha! It's not a political statement or anything. This channel was originally created by myself (Scottish) and my friend from Serbia. His lineage goes back to Soviet Russia, but his family 'escaped' to Serbia which wasn't the best move if you know a bit of the history. He wanted to move back, but repatriation wasn't really possible. And, in his eyes, there's not much difference between Russia 40-50 years ago and Russia today.
Mordicai and Rigby I need to put out the fire , then I need you to enter the gateways to hell and find the hazbin hotel , and last I need mordicai to hold a video camera and I need rigby to be recorded and chased by a demon girl named Charlie I will lend you 50k in case she refuses , other than that do this now and get this done before 8 pm OR YOUR FIRED 😡
Even low flammability oils will turn into a flamethrower when sprayed with enough pressure to become a cloud of fuel-air mix. Good thing there was a fire, not an accumulated cloud waiting to be ignited like a bomb.
@@GimmeSomeAdventure i mean, personally, i would also grab the only thing immediately capable of alerting emergency services instead of waiting and hoping someone else can do it for me
Much appreciation to who named this video for being creative about it, calling it a damn portal to hell, and not just “huge fire”. After watching the vid, it only makes sense as well cause shit look like it’d be in a movie
At first I thought the one worker was running over to the control station to hit an emergency stop button, but no, it looks like he was just getting a personal item. I am glad they both got out in time though. It's amazing how quickly the place went from very nice shop to complete disaster. This would be a good video to show kids when explaining the importance of immediately leaving a room in the event of a fire.
Show your kids The Station Nightclub fire. Band called Great White was performing with indoor pyrotechnics. Seeing how exits were blocked and how fast that fire took off was absolutely terrifying. Condolences to those that perished horribly. All club goers should view.
As a safety team member, This is a fine example of why it is crucial that in an emergency. You evacuate first, And never worry about your belongings. That man was seconds away from being not with us anymore
This happened in Dos Hermanas, Spain, to a company called Alueuropa SA. The fire was relatively small, all things considered, and only a portion of one of 8 warehouses got burnt. No one was injured.
@@tantoismailgoldstein6279 he meant small in the scale of the whole work place, as in 8 warehouses, and it was contained to only 1..but im with you, that is a big fire in my book lol
@@BlueOriginHR I worked in the chemical plants on the Houston ship channel for years...this is not a let me get back to you from the safety man.....this is a .....dammm event.....good thing in my polymer plant everything blows upwards
Don't you hate it when you're at work at a factory and the darkest pit of hell opens to swallow you whole and you have to not keep the devil waiting, old friend?
The individual you refer to hasn't been seen or heard from since 2003. His last known location was Derry, a small town northwest of Bangor, Maine. A lot of people went missing there recently, before the destruction of the Pizzaplex. And there was the 2018 disappearance of the-
Personal data and info can be extracted from a phone even after a fire. If he left it there there's a good chance a fire investigator will go through all his personal shit or even sell his PII.
Probably panic reaction, also this could in some cases be smart, if they get trapped for example. That's why I always keep my phone in a pocket or nearby.
@@RT-qd8yl not really. it could technically be extracted if a tech who is very skilled in microsoldering can desolder and resolder it correctly without damaging the chip. that's assuming the silicon could withstand the heat of the fire without cracking, the plastic housing of the IC didn't get damaged by the heat, and the pads didn't delaminate from the board from the heat.
Hell yes. This could be used as an excellent example to companies, or even schools, who’d rather save money and avoid the repairs that are needed…leading to an absolute catastrophe caused by years of neglect!
@@manfredconnor3194 im gonna need you to get off the internet for a while since you think this has anything to do with that. Youre too obsessed with taking sides. Get a grip and act like a critically thinking human being.
Risk assessments are based on current observations and case studies. Neither were considered here. Everyone moans about snowflake generation and health and safety gone mad but there's a reason. This is that reason. Looked nice and safe 40 seconds ago didn't it?
@@nigelbenn4642 "but..but.. we can regulate ourselves!, thrust us bro!" to then suddenly Boeing killing hundreds thanks to cost cuts, cheap corners, etc..
I worked at ALCOA’s Vernon Works in Southern California, and our extrusion press’s used a water based hydraulic fluid. A must when working around equipment that has induction heating, and it’s better than fluids that are oil based, or phosphate esters. Never had a fire like that in a plant with over fifty years of operation!
we had oil based hydraulic fluid in our cranes and moved to resistance hydraulic fluid, not sure if it was HFA, HFB, HFC or HFD, but seen both type burn and this to me looks like oil based, how fast it moved and how things stayed lit away from the main fire
In 1988 I was working at Comalco aluminium in yennora, a suburb in western Sydney. I was working on a machine called the warm mill. This machine was huge and rolled aluminium from about a quarter inch thick down to almost foil thickness. Sometimes we would get fires . Probably once a month. There were banks of CO2 cylinders with nozzles pointed all over the mill. When a fire started we would hit the big red button and walk away ( not run because the floor was slippery because of liquid coolant which is what caught fire ). The CO2 would automatically kick in and put the fire out. The first fire I saw was terrifying. Never got used to that. Scared the shit out of me every time.
@@Teslijah I only worked there for about 14 months and we had about 6 fires . And that was just on my shift. Other shifts had fires too. The aluminium was rolling through the mill at up to 800 feet per minute and there was liquid coolant being sprayed on it constantly because it got seriously hot. The coolant is flammable. Sometimes an edge crack in the aluminium would cause it to tear and the aluminium would then crumple up which caused a spark that ignited the coolant. Within a few seconds the flames were hitting the ceiling which was around 40 or 50 feet high. When a fire happened the fitters had to change the rollers in the mill. We’d be down the whole shift . It was probably one of the more dangerous jobs I’ve had. The pay was good though.
@@JonathanBrettMiller The fires happened very quickly. Within seconds. An edge crack in the aluminium would cause a tear. The aluminium would crumple up in the mill. The liquid coolant that was constantly sprayed on it was flammable. The crumpling aluminium would cause a spark and ignite the coolant. Within a few seconds flames were hitting the ceiling which was 40 to 50 feet high. All we could do is walk away and let the CO2 cylinders put the fire out. It would take around 8 hours to get the mill up and running again.
That was a big, hydraulic cylinder that just popped a seal. The hydraulics are under such high pressures that the fluid is basically "atomized" when released. This makes it even more explosively flammable. Those two workers are SO VERY LUCKY they left when they did considering the immanent disaster that took place only seconds after they were out of view of the camera.
No, he's just someone who actually does useful stuff in life and recognizes things, unlike dumbass trolls who have nothing to do but advertise their ignorance@@trxtech3010
To everyone who doesn't know theres a spray of hydraulic fluid from a busted line it comes out with so much pressure it is mist when it comes into contact with the glowing hot metal it ignition is achieved and the rain of fire reaches other flammables
@@denniskane1870 Unless the sprinklers were connected to the bottom of a lake, they'd have done nothing. once that oil was atomized and lit, it became a literal jet. There's nothing that would have stopped it.
I worked in an aluminum casting facility for 16 years. I've seen countless hydraulic leaks turn into fires. Thankfully none as bad as this one. But what I'm guessing happened here is, the cylinder broke a seal or hose broke. Then sprayed on an open furnace, then came back and ignites the spraying hydraulic oil back up to the dirty, dusty ceiling and it all went up in flames obviously very rapidly. Insane.
@ynvch I'm unsure about that. I thought that that could just be the quality of the camera. This looks like a way cleaner shop than I worked in. But working in those conditions with that material (oil, heat, aluminum, you probably have propylene and acetylene torches that create smolder, etc.) those ceilings and walls collect all that in the air. It's literally big blackish gray chunks of dust. You may clean that once a year. But that shit is so flammable. Even in the floors. I've seen sides of furnaces get cracked or punctured and drain molten metal out on a floor in minutes. No human can do anything about that until the molten metal is finished draining, and the damage done is amazing. I've seen 3 or 4 inch hydraulic hoses break from wear and spring a leak next to an uncovered furnaces. That furnace will have flames so hight off the surface of the metal so fast it's scary. These guys probably didn't get a chance to hit the E-stop in time.
And this is why drop ceilings don't belong in factories. Happened in a factory I worked at about 20 years ago just the ignition source was a ventilation fan. Maintenance guy popped a tile up to investigate the smoke and the whole thing flashed causing all of the tiles to fall in that side of the factory.
The fact that those hydraulic pumps did not shut off is just proof that someone cared more about cost than safety. There should have been fire sensor that instantly stop all hydraulics flowing at the first sign of a spark. That valve or what ever sprung a leak should have had pressure sensitive valves that instantly shut off at the first sign of losing pressure.
Hmm, I do like those ideas of safety measures, but the question of means and effectiveness remain. I personally have never seen a safety system like that, though I'm sure something with the same goals do exist. Your first obstacle is stopping hydraulic fluid flow. Critical faults, E-Stops, enable-run, etc will (should) stop the pump. If you consider that hydraulic systems operate in the thousands of PSI, you can stop the pump and still have residual pressure blow out. This is exacerbated by any hydraulic accumulators or pistons that get compressed by gravity from lack of pressure. Fire sensors are tricky. Most work by either particle detection from ash and smoke, or by heat. Place a heat sensor too close above a machine and you may get frequent false alarms, and I've yet to see an industrial facility install particle detectors due to how common it is for them to have a lot of junk in the air that will also set false alarms. Pressure activated safety valves though, that's trickier. You can use something akin to a standard blowoff valve, but again it would have to contend with residual pressure and i can't see it being reliable for stopping flow immediately (those designs are reliable for overpressure scenarios, though). Your other option is an electronically controlled normally closed valve with hydraulic pressure sensors, which many hydraulic powered machines already have for run-enable and e-stop purposes. You still have the same issue of residual blowout. I am curious about the design of this machine as I question why that tubing on top of that piston is in such an awful spot to work on, inspect, and is moving so much. That is what hoses are for. Hydraulic lines don't just blow out of nowhere. You (should) have blowoff valves for overpressure scenarios, and lines should be getting inspected for wear and tear on a regular basis. I see poor design and lack of or inability to perform inspections on that fitting as contributing. Thankfully it seems no injuries or loss of life was involved in this accident.
You can not plan for ever eventuality. You can only make things but so safe sometimes and that is the reality of the situation. If you made everything totally safe nothing would ever get done.
Large hydraulics systems are scary as f*ck: Everything is fine, suddenly some seal pops and a spray of hot oil comes out so powerful it could cut a person in half, the next moment the fine mist of nebulized oil in the room is ignited and a flash fire levels the building. Scary stuff
Aluminium has one of the strongest exotermic (releasing heat) reactions with oxygen out of all elements. It's not used as fuel bcs its solid both as metal and as exhaustion oxide product. So it's hard to use it as fuel due to caking in incinerator. Also reaction with oxygen is hard to start due to some properties of alu. But aluminium is a component of the most potent explosives.
I just left an organization that didn't care at all about safety. I tried to tell them that when they had an accident it was going to be bad and when I tried to point things out to them I was harassed. Instead of taking care of the problems they saw me as the problem. I ended up retiring early.
Wise move. Way too many companies see their employees as expendable. People bag on unions all the time, but they're there for a reason. Good companies don't require unions, bad companies do. I have a long scar on my left forearm that shows the difference between the two...
@@TehButterflyEffect - What's that got to do with unions? Sounds more like an issue with the business owner ignoring safety regs and/or not giving two sh*ts about the union contract.
@@Snarkapotamus Fundamentally unions are great in theory but when it becomes political with payoffs behind doors and bureaucrats running things the working man suffers while still paying his dues. One injury claim isn't going to prove that all unions are more ethical.
had a similar problem in a place i worked at i left and then most of the other staff did over a year they now cant get qualified people to work for them
@@rustyboltz2820 - They're about the only thing standing between unethical, immoral, greedy and downright dangerous employers and the working man. My experience is obviously different than yours. If you even have any in this arena...
@@NottJoeyOfficial yeah oooook 😂 every other person there has a phone too that can be used for that. He was saving his phone. It's ok. He's just an average human.
The timing of lighting the blow torch and hydraulic leak must have confused the welder. Also, I am intrigued at how quickly the ceiling tiles in the foreground caught fire. Would love to see more film from this.
@@Icouldnotthinkofanything I worked at a machine shop as part of a college program in the early 2000s. One of the things we did was machine magnesium castings to their final dimensions. Someone started a lathing process without turning on the coolant flow, and the whole chip bin went up in seconds. Between Iron dust, aluminum turnings, and little chips of magnesium it was essentially a thermite fire. Fortunately this was an older machine and not on the tightly packed main floor where the fire could spread.
0:16 looks like this was the exact moment the flames finally reached the jet of hydraulic fluid, causing it to basically become a giant blowtorch and igniting the fluid on the ceiling panels. That is easily the fastest I have ever seen such a fire happen, I have no idea what caused the hose to pop off in the beginning but it's scary that something so small could cause so much damage
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 There's also the theory that since WWII was ongoing, Freon gas that would be normally used for the air conditioner system was unavailable. So the restaurant used another refrigerant called Methyl Chloride. Problem was, that if that stuff had leaked out of the A/C system, and the "illegal wiring" you mentioned shorted out behind a wall, starting the fire, as methyl chloride is extremely flammable. Think of methyl chloride (CH3Cl) as being pretty much as flammable as Natural Gas (CH4 - Methane), and you see the problem....
I worked in a box factory. Lots of hydraulics around. One day I was operating a millstand lifting a roll of paper. One of the mechanics didn't bolt the hydraulic pump to the machine correctly. Those hoses stiffened up and lifted the pump and tank unit 10 ft into the air and popped. I'll bet that pump and tank weighed over 500 lbs. No fire but it made one helluva mess!
@@HR-rt9nhJust went "Zeke" on all of em'😂😂😂😂(My daughter watches Bob's Burgers and there's a little country ass kid named Zeke that's always grabbing another kid, amd only one other kid out, out of the blue, and hollerin "Come on Jimmy Jr, let's WRASTLE!!").
It’s amazing how quickly fires can spread. These men had literally 20 seconds from the time the flames started until the room became completely uninhabitable and unsurvivable. Reminds me of the Rhode Island nightclub disaster. If you watch the video you will see that between the time the wall started catching on fire and the time where escape became impossible was something like 30 seconds.
22 seconds from the burstting cylinder to the first falling ceiling tiles. This is a clear message: When the $hit hits the fan GTFO! Run and don't look back. Or to quote the Mythbusters: _"de-ass the area with a quickness"_
I work at an aluminum mill and we have daily safety meetings on topics like this, and various other dangers and hazards that can happen in the plant, and this is terrifying to hear any let alone witness. And what's scary for me is that my working station sits about 20 to 30 feet away from at least 6 presses that deals with aluminum billets and makes the extrusions. So to see a video like this definitely has me on alert right now
I remember my mentors explaining to me how metal shavings are the most flammable things in the planet and that blew my mind. We had barrels with just scraps and shavings from the lathe and my mentor told me that if that would catch on fire it would explode. The machines and materials did not care about anything, it’ll take your life in a blink of an eye. Edit: didn’t notice this was gonna get this much attention. Correction. It’s not that metal is flammable but it’s with a bunch of other flammable things. So with the pressure of the metal cutting it could be easy to catch on fire. Once the metal catches fire which it could. It’s almost impossible to put out the flame in a drum full of shavings.
Ever heard of thermite? If metal once starts "burning" it's already to hot to simply extinguish it. it keeps getting hotter the more material is burning. it'll reach temperatures comparable with the surface of the sun. and it'll burn through steel...
Higher the surface area higher the rate burn. It’s almost physically impossible to get a higher mass to surface area ratio than fine particulate like dust or flour. Mix that with open air and you’ve technically just created military grade explosives.
hilariously(depressingly) one of the things that truly destroyed the hindenburg was they painted/coated the entire airship with POWDERED aluminum, which is now used as to force rocket fuel to burn at higher temps. apparently best homemade substitute is rust powder and sugar. tl;dr dont paint your giant hydrogen blimp with rocketfuel
Different materials still need to reach a certain temperature for ignition. Aluminium, for example is quite high. Once it is ignited though and in a shaved form, you aren't putting that out.
You can see something blow off the machine and start spewing oil straight up at the ceiling which quickly falls back down and ignites on very hot metal the machine is processing. After a few seconds the fire gets big enough to ignite the fountain of oil and turns it into a giant vertical flamethrower which torches the ceiling.
I'm a truck driver I deliver bulk liquid nitrogen to a aluminum mill. They use the liquid nitrogen in their fire suppression system. It works very well; I got to see the system being tested when the mill was being built. Nitrogen takes away oxygen and quickly suffocates the fire. The nitrogen I deliver is used in processing, operating laser cutters and fire suppression. Nitrogen suppression is starting to be used on cargo planes.
Displaces oxygen. I’m not being a jerk but nitrogen doesn’t “take away” oxygen, it just dilutes it. As a fire service professional, I appreciate your post but offer this clarification for anyone going into a technical field who might be reading this post . I’d like to thank you for what you do to keep the economy intact and to wish you safe travels. (From one cdl driver to another - TY for what you do! Haven’t been on the road much lately, but maybe I’ll see you out there!)
Cargo planes tend not to have humans in the cargo hold. Humans need oxygen as much as a fire does. The last thing you want in an active fire situation is your supression system causing mass unconsiousness when they would have made it out otherwise. Unless oxygen starvation supression systems are safe to use around people? I'm not knowledgeable on the subject. Just a thought.
I worked in a brick factory. We used aluminium powder mixed with water to make the cakes rise until they were cut with wire into building blocks.If it's not continuously mixing, it rises to the top of the water and heats up. A naked flame when it's dry, it ignites like gunpowder.
Yep, literally 6 seconds for the desk to be engulfed and then another 15 for the burning ceiling to come down on it. Imagine nearly dying over a cell phone
Fun fact, the guy on the left is using an oxyacetylene torch to cut the steel band on those steel coils and the 2 tanks are on a 3 wheeled cart. Acetylene is dissolved in acetone and the other tank is oxygen which is pressurized in the 2-3,000 PSI range but the acetylene is no more 15 PSI because it explodes at even slightly elevated pressure so they're standing next to a thermobaric bomb when the flamethrower starts and I don't believe there's anyway it survived for more than seconds after the end of the video so even though the desk got burned up a much worse event followed shortly thereafter.
Compared with the thermal energy stored in tons of molten metal, that tank of acetylene is ignorable. At that scale, it would be no more than a wimpy puff compared with that the molten aluminum can do. If you drop a ladle of iron slags into a pit of water, you get steam cooked in an instant, that's assuming no chemical reactions occur. Aluminum can explode when contacting with water at sufficient scale, just like sodium. A few days ago a water-aluminum explosion happened somewhere in China. Let's just say, a few tons of molten aluminum having a coulomb explosion is no joke. Even just a tiny fraction, maybe just a few kilos reacted, the explosion reduced the 1000+ sqm warehouse into mangled metal, and everything at the epicenter into pieces. Gram for gram, coulomb explosion is comparable to that of a high explosive.
Fair enough, the tanks are also fitted with shatter discs, and blow off plugs. So the gas will be let out before the tank would explode. Added a lot of fuel to the fire no doubt.
I doubt those things would help given the amount and weight of flaming debris falling on 200 pounds of acetone and however much acetylene was left given how unstable it is to heat and pressure. A fully pressurized oxygen tank would have turned that cart into a rocket sled too if you've seen videos of high pressure cylinders failing.
Who else remembers that 2003 nightclub fire in Rhode Island, when a hard rock band's pyrotechnics ignited the ceiling above? That one was 6 minutes from the time of ignition to when the building was fully engulfed, with 100 killed and 230 injured. This shop fire moved much more quickly. These workers were lucky to escape with their lives.
Hydraulic fluid is alot like diesel. It takes some time to get thick puddles or pools of them to burn but if you atomize them into a mist they will easily burn if any of the droplets find an ignition source.
Plus, it is often heated from the pressure. We had one of our sanitation trucks blow a main hydraulic line next to the exhaust manifold and the fluid went almost straight up (just like in this reel) like a flamethrower. The fire engulfed the cab and the body in just a few seconds. Fortunately, it was idling in the lot and there was no one in it. If there was, no doubt they would have been burned.
@@rockets4kids If all they do is extrusions there, Very little aluminum dust will be present. Particles coming off the dies are oilsoaked, they build up as a paste.
Aluminum dust is highly flammable and it burns very, very hot. When we were kids we were making flammable liquid from number of substances (that I would not mention to not give idiots like little me an idea) and the aluminum powder was absolutely essential component to raise the combustion temperature to the point that fire would melt through metal plate. I used to work as a design engineer with flammable and explosive fluids. The safety rules are very, very strict. Even paranoid I would say. Unfortunately they are often broken. Thus we got things like this. Or worse, when hydrogen or oxygen are involved. With hydrogen in particular it is a very energetic explosion with no warning or anything.
Apple and Samsung charge $2000 + for the latest device,... I wouldn't be letting that shit burn up either... warranty aint covering inferno and crushing damage
Literally did something you are told not to do in every fire drill, and his buddy hanging around with him waiting for him to move before he heads to safety is even more stupid.
To be honest my phone is gradually becoming my "always retrieve unless there's a >99.9% chance of me dying" item. Especially with 2FA, you're pretty much screwed if you lost your phone with no backup device.
