One of my favorite pokemon to meme with in Gen 7 in-game singles was my physical wall Pyukumuku. It was max hp max defense with + defense nature, leftovers, soak, toxic, recover, and (get this) harden. Harden's massive pp is great for stalling toxic turns, and unaware basically means that you are never being beaten by a physical attacker after a few boosts. Very funny and not as terrible as you'd think.
The idea of teatime is kinda funny, to force opponents to consume their held berries at a bad moment (like eating sitrus berry at full hp), it's kinda funny in a troll way, in addition to maybe using pinch berries at full hp in doubles. But I really can't even imagine it being seriously used anywhere, that just sounds like a waste of a move slot for a very specific scenario.
@@manelneedsaname1773 Or you could put it next to a pokemon with Harvest that has the Starf berry (the one you talked about), then it could get those +2 boosts every turn for as long as there was sun and PP on teatime.
rototiller might be my least favorite move name to pronounce, every part of it aligns perfectly with the things i struggle to say. i spent like 20 minutes over two separate days trying to get a take where i said it ok.
when i first saw the move name when i was in 5th grade i subconsciously pronounced it in my head as rottweiler, it took me a couple of years to realize that it wasnt that
Recently in a draft league match I used Fling + Iron Ball on Granbull in Trick Room and actually succeeded in KO'ing the enemy Greavard after one EQ and Stealth Rock damage. :D Lost the match nonetheless due to hazard spam. 😅
CINCCINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I FUCKING LOVE CINCCINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S MY GOAT!! also why did they remove wake-up slap in gen 8, it was the only coverage cinccino had for steel types...
Since cincinno and breloom both have technician + dice sets and they tend to be at the same tier in viability rankings I officially consider them besties
Some other weird moves off the top of my head: -Wring Out -Psych Up -Flame Burst -Sparkling Aria -Water Sport & Mud Sport -Sky Drop -Ion Deluge -Venom Drench -Psywave -Grudge -Embargo
You can use Tea Time to force Pokemon to eat weakness berries like the Occa Berry or use other berries early like the Lum Berry. It's also technically possible to make an ally use something like a Salac Berry early, although you're probably better off using something else
You can turn a Harvest mon into a pseudo-Moody mon with Starf Berry in doubles. Also, if we had access to Prankster (or even just fast) Teatime, Custap could've been a very, very devious way to get some slow motherfucker to move very fast once.
One time when i was using a prankster spore gimmick in gen 7, I ran a slow wake-up slap so I'd put them to sleep, they burn the first mandatory turn of sleep, I wake them up after they move with wake-up slap and if they lived they could get stuck in a sleep loop cuz of prankster spore the following turn. It was a fun niche for the wake-up slap, never tried to use smellingsalt though lol
I remember when I was a kid playing Sun I had a Togedemaru with Fell Stinger and that was such a satisfying move to use, I really liked it. I feel like “if this KOs the target” effects are way underutilized come to think of it. A lot of card games have a whole bunch of those and it’s weird to see how among all the effects Pokemon has this is on like one thing
electrify is a funny move because in standard play it very obviously sucks ass but in OMs it becomes really good. it was balanced around its movepool and when that balance goes away it turns into a monster.
iirc weedletwineedle use electrify on 1 mon while hawlucha uturn to pivot into pikachu for lightningrod.. this happens in gen 8 in which their opponent use gmax flying but turned into gmax electric move
If the meta is using specific berries often, e.g. belly drum mons that want to heal, or a mon frequently carries a berry to lower a damage type and survive the hit... that's when Teatime sounds hilarious. It's niche, but if you know the meta well, it'd be a hell of a surprise to pull on mons you know need their berry. If it forced everyone to use -- and therefore lose -- ANY type of single-use item (e.g. focus sash, white herb, berries, balloons, weakness policy, etc) it might swing to overpowered in some metas. It becomes a multi-target Knock Off with no damage, that only affects consumed items. If the meta is using those, you have a way to blindly wipe them all, without needing to hit the specific trigger for their use.
I just realized, if it forces using the single-use item instead of just knocking it off, that makes Weakness Policy + Tea Time terrifyingly overpowered. GF wouldn't do that one. :D
Think I recall running Z Stockpile on Toxapex on showdown back in Gen 7. If I remember right, z stockpile would fully restore toxapex and give it the defense boosts
Another fun use for Stockpile was Z-stockpile back in Sun/Moon, it provided full HP recovery along side applying the buffs, while very frequently outclassed by just hitting something very hard, it did provide an interesting optiont for mons like araquanid would otherwise be relying on Leach Life and Rest for their recovery.
Shoutout to colosseum where I learned about smellingsalts for the first time, currently running a mini core of Hariyama and Ampharos to get paralysis for the damage
My favorite thing about soak is it single handedly sets up shenanigans. Tentacruel cant be hit by synchronoise? Soak your espeon and suddenly that tentacruel walling you is no more. (Soak+Synchronoize) Pokemon cant take poison damage? Soak it. If that still doesnt work combine it with Gastro Acid. (Soak+Gastro Acid+Toxic) Oh you want to be a pain in the ass with Shedinja or stop it?(Excluding Tera but effective against typeless.) Use Soak. Wanna make everything super effective? Well Soak+Freeze dry has got you covered. Bonus points if you add forests curse. (Soak+FreezeDry) Speaking of which need a new emrgency type combo? Use (Soak+(trickortreat OR Forests curse.)) Trying to catch that annoying pokemon that cant be slept or paralyzed? Use Soak. Oh you can now also false swipe those pesky ghosts you cant catch. As long as it isn't a tera pokemon, soak has got you covered. Now if you'll excuse me im about to go do whatever the fuck I want with my trusty Smeargle.
I love fell stinger mega beedrill. It is a weak move but Adaptability making it effectively base 100 is good enough for me, and its not like it needs the +3 attack to be throwing out the scariest poison moves
I use to play a lot of draft league, and had no idea tea time was a move. The absolute heat you could run on a support mon is insane. baiting a switch, and forcing a super effective berry to be eaten, then sacking/predicting/etc, is fucking awesome lmao
0:25 I do wonder why we aren't seeing more Soak usage in VGC these days. With Tera being a defining feature and there some top Pokemon like Miraidon or Raging Bolt in the meta - this would feel like great way of taking out defensive Teras and bulky mons. Heck this would be lovely for Zamazenta cause it would take away the pesky ghost counters. 1:50 Well technically Rollout, Fury Cutter and so and so also work in similar way. 2:20 Its annoying that they just ended Rototiller. Would be nice, if it came back for L:Z-A. They should have just buffed it. Like rising Grass types Attack stats by one and maybe rising Ground types Speed by one as well? Or maybe omni-buff for Grass types? Or maybe have it buff the attack stats, but have it work like Tailwind on top of it for the Ground Pokemon? Maybe double the effect on Grassy Terrain and buff up the Grassy Terrain heal effect? Possibilities could have been endless. 2:25 Electrify should have maybe also been multiple rounds effect. Or a priority move. 3:00 I think Tea Time had some use? Mostly on the Harvest, Cheeck Pouch teams.
I once used a Z-rototiller tapu bulu with mega venusaur in Gen 7 doubles OU, it had great success and i won most of the games (although i was not very high up on the ladder). Probably the most fun team to use i've ever made.
I ran Fell Stinger on a weakness policy Adamant Buzzswole and while it wasn't great, was hilarious to get a +5 in Attack if i hit a pokemon weak to bug type and then just sweep the rest of their team with Drain Punch or Megahorn
Could you do a video on Sheer Force and how it is quite possibly the funniest ability ever due to its interactions with opponents' held Items and Abilities? This might not be substantial enough for a full video but I need people to know that Sheer Force is one of the jankiest Abilities in the game
cinccino has been a top 3 fave mon of mine since i rolled through black with it, wasn't even overleveled and 1 shot multiple elite 4 pokemon with return oh and also i used to play a LOT of gen 8 nat dex monotype, EVERY bug team had a mega beedrill and ALL of them ran fell stinger.
Teatime has some gimmicks with stat boosting berries. Personally, it seems like a lot of investment to buff your partner by +1 and allow them to attack on the same turn once, especially when decorate exists and does it better with less investment, but it's a strat that exists. I did see it work semi okish on a harvest executor, but it being an executor in of itself was kinda not incredible.
I believe if you have smeargle sketch something in battle that also starts not at the maximum PP. But i guess that doesn’t really count since it as sketch which is at its max PP of 1
If you do another of these, please mention how steel roller is just a worse, less usable version of ice spinner. I don't get why steel moves love inconsistency or inconvenience. Gyro ball, steel beam, heavy slam, hard press, steel roller..
Teatime could be cool in doubles with something like salac belch hydreigon. Note that I said cool, not necessarily good. But like, the coverage against fairies would be nice.
Tea time could waste a heal if you outspeed?? I guess??? Or it could help an ally belch user (but then you have to have a belch user. who has ever used belch)
one of my favorite weird moves is flying press. its so weird to me that they literally made a dual type move and then only gave it to hawlucha, a mon that uses close combat and acrobatics super well so there is no real reason to run it (pikachu libre isnt real)
I feel so bad for Ion Deluge. Zeraora came and broke the entire effect iirc, so it couldn't be used in gen 7 for a while. Its one thing when something like Sky Drop breaks the game, its another when GF neglects a mechanic in favor of an event mon. At least it wasn't some paid DLC critter...
Weird idea to "buff" Tea Time: Make it so it reduces the evasion of all pokemon on the field, because they all sat down to have some tea. It wouldn't be good, buy you might be able to do something funny.
